August 12, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Be Careful What You Wish For/If We Had Less Emergency, We'd Need Less Houses/Basking In the Golden Glow
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sed BE Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday
versus yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we are
looking back at Monday. Some impressive and yet confusing emergency
housing stats. I've come out. I will wrap the Olympics
(00:44):
and most Golden Olympics ever before any of that. Have
we fixed retail crime? Now that we've put sunny Coschill
in charge of it?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What do we do about retail crime? We have a
group that will kick into gear at some point with
some new suggestions. We've put some physical deterrence into shops
and shopping areas, got some more cops out on the
street in certain areas, with a government that is keen
on real consequences to crime. So these strongest sentences for
convicted criminals. But is this enough? I mean, what is
(01:13):
it going to take to stop there being around eleven
assaults every day? Life isn't getting easier out there for
some people. Times are still tough and look hopefully some
of these solutions will have an impact long term and
we know change takes time, but is there anything left
that we could do short term to solve this issue?
(01:35):
Because you should be able to go to work in
the morning and not worry about someone coming at you
with a hammer.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Unless you're a trader or you work on a building site. Obviously,
then it's all right for people to come at you
with a hammer. They might just be handing it to you. Yeah,
It's funny, isn't it How people can complain and complain
and complain, and then once they actually they've given the
opportunity to come up with solutions.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Not so easy, is it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Maybe if the Sunny's Working Group calls backs and suggest
word by oards.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And more fog getting news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Hopefully they'll come back with some things we have thought of.
Now we've got emergency housing, so the it seems like
this new government's fixed it already. Fantastic.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yesterday the government comes along and claims to have cut
the number of households living in emergency housing by third
in six months. What's more, they said in Auckland they've
almost halved the number of people living in emergency housing
in three months. How can you have the number of
people in emergency housing in three months? Does that make
(02:48):
sense to you? In christ Church, it's gone from two
to eighty five to one hundred and eighty three in
three months. They said they'd used quote, intensive work to
cut the numbers. I don't know whether I'm just cynical,
but I'm Do you believe that you know or do
you think there's some trick, some tricks of you know,
(03:09):
some fudging of the numbers here or the categories that
they're using, something like that. If all we needed was
a bit of intensive work, surely we could have cut
through that long waiting list a lot earlier. Q Karen
McNulty on three News last night, having a crack at
the government.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
They both claiming credit for something they didn't do, and
they're also crying about something when they've made it harder
for people to access it.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
He then went on to say this, in the.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Honest way to deal with the issue of emergency housing
is to build more social houses, and that's the very
thing the government has pulled back on.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Wrong. There is another way that you can deal with
the problem of an increase in demand for social housing.
That's to grow an economy, to get people into well
paid jobs, not everybody wants to be at the mercy
of a failed social housing system.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Do they.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's actually a quite a good point, isn't it. From
right in there, I do sometimes wonder how you you know,
we're way about growing the economy and you know, moving
people into the middle class. They talk about this thing
all this sort of thing all over the world. But
can everybody be in the middle class. If everybody's in
(04:26):
the middle, who's at either end? This is the system
set up to work that way. This is a bit philosophical, really,
isn't it. Let's move on. Talk rang into Andrew Dickinson's
show yesterday's talking about his emergency housing social housing experiences.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
I just got released from present, I mean, and I
went out looking for a place because I mean, I've
been my wife forty nine years and you know, we
still love each other. But I said that maybe what
we might need a break, right, I got a pot
about who week to go by? That's a story on
(05:06):
I say, And that was done. But anyways, and I
readily house in New Zealand, and they said they couldn't
help me because I have to go to something through
some other places. And all right, so I'm backing with
my wife. I'm not meant to be there because it's illegal,
but I don't have anywhere else to go to, right,
(05:26):
And they frequly turned me down. Maybe because it's my age,
because I'm sixty eight, but I'm still fit as the
federal and I still work. Or maybe it's because of
my criminal history. I honestly don't know. Were you just
on the radio not so long ago? Me?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yeah, you're on the radio right now.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
Oh yeah, But listen, you talked about sorting out the problems.
You know, New Yealan's got a problem there. It's so
easy to sort out, you know, I look at it
the same speaking to poor people. Our weakness is our
you know, the weakness is the weakest link. Right, we
(06:11):
bring them up to an acceptable standards, just what we
all win.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yep, I get you. I'm going to ask you, yeah,
ty Hoe, I'm going to ask you some questions here,
Okay when they go high dude, Look, I'm sorry. I
think you can earn some money, and I don't think
you actually fit the threshold for the emergency housing. You
should go out there and work harder and try harder.
Do you get angry about that or did you think yeah,
(06:35):
actually they're right.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Well, just right, mate. I can't say it on the radio,
but I wanted to tell them some day.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Sixty eight day. You see how many people bring into
the radio and then don't realize that they're on the radio,
and how that happens. Right the Olympics, they've got us
feeling good, didn't they?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Really?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yesterday is one of the better Mondays, isn't it. I
felt like everybody was walking around in a bit of
a golden glow.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Hamoush Kurr almost didn't even qualify for this final. He
only just got in there. It was a very real
chance that he wasn't going to be there at all.
And then from being the guy who almost doesn't get in,
he goes on to win gold, and not just gold,
but like the bullsiest gold, you can get gold in
a jump off. He could have and this is the
thing that I love the most about this particular medal,
he could have just decided to share gold with the
(07:24):
American jumper. That's what they did four years ago when
they had a similar situation, and he and the other
guy both decided nope, they wanted to do a jump
off and find out who actually was the real gold
medalist between the two of themselves. Now that's risky because
in doing that, when you have a jump off, you
go from two golds to basically one guy gets gold,
one guy gets silver. And that must have been a
(07:45):
real He must have considered this, hamishkur and thought that
could be me. I could walk away with only a
silver medal. And of course the American wants to jump off,
but it is very against the Kiwig personality, isn't it
to go all out and do something like that. But
Hamish Kurr did it. Hamish curR won, and he got
our first jumps jumps event medal in seventy plus years.
(08:05):
The fact that his medal was the standout of the game,
though I Reckon says a lot about how special it
was because there was some pretty tough competition and most
like most most obviously coming from Lisa Carrington, who got
three gold medals in one games. She now get this,
she has got eight gold medals, which is more than
any other key we ever and that apparently counts now
(08:26):
for twelve percent of all of the gold medals that
this country has ever got. Twelve percent of them hang
around Lisa Carrington's neck what a legend. And as I
said at the start, what to turn around in our
fortunes for these games?
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Right?
Speaker 8 (08:38):
We end up being like kinda underwhelmed last week, and
then this week we got ten gold medals, which is outstanding.
Now to put that in perspective, between eighty eight and
two thousand and eight, the most that we ever got
in a single games was only three, and this time
we've got ten. We now sit at eleventh on the
medals table. That's not per capita. We're not doing that
little game, are we. That's just the straight medals table.
(08:59):
We are number eleven. Just above us is Germany and Italy.
They've got eleven golds each, and of course we've got ten.
Just want to point out Germany's got a population of
eighty three million and Italy's got a population of sixty million,
and here we are like closing it on six and
we've got almost as many gold medals as them. So
how good in the end, slow build Olympics, but one
that's going to be very very hard to beat in
(09:19):
the future.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's funny how many people have made comments like that
last one, like, oh, I know, how are we going
to do better than that? Next?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Time.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I wish we hadn't done.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So well now news talk has it been it's.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Really what they mean. But it's quite funny, isn't it.
It's four years away. Worry it's worried about it.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
In four years there so many highlights for me. I've
tried to understand the whole story with the Australian breakdancer
ray Gun, because that did look terrible in front. I
watched the breakdancing that was a fail. I thought it
would be indoors as kind of was surprised it was
outdoors on a round stage. I thought that was weird.
(10:00):
And the Australian ray Gun, which she was terrible, and
I still don't quite know what's gone on with her.
I thought there'd been interviews with her in the Australian
press did just say kind of why she was so terrible,
And in fact, not only was she terrible, but probably
she actually I think that she disrespected that form of
(10:25):
dance of breaking. That would be my take on that.
When she was doing the Kangaroo and the Snake and
the wombat and various other things, it wasn't good. So
I don't think it's coming back next time In Los
Angeles there's like non contact gridiron.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Go figure.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
There's also an American Ninja Warrior based obstacle course. Well
that will be huge. But yeah, I just thought the
New Zealand effort absolutely extraordinary. I was fortunate enough to
catch all the cycling last night. I went to bed
just before the last match in the Omnium. They didn't
think we'd be in the middle contention for that, so
(11:12):
I feel kind of bad quitting out on that one.
But the sprint race to go two from two and
both the semi and the final was just unbelievable. So yeah,
for the first week, I said two weeks is not
long enough, there's too much sport. But by the end
of it, I was just yeah, cup was full, just
(11:33):
absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, the breakdancing thing, you can't disrespect the dance, but
I did get the out of the way straight off.
And also, I have actually not seen the Ragun video
that everybody else has been talking about, and I kind
of don't want to now because I've heard so many
people talk about it. I feel like it's almost better
(12:01):
in my mind than it can possibly be in real life.
I used to consider myself to be not a bad breakdancer.
I would have been wrong about that. But the Blue
Light discos when I was about thirteen, me and Nanny
row Matti, we used to take to the dance floor and.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
I'm pretty sure I was terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I don't know what Marcus means about it being
surprised that it was outside. Always thought that was the
whole thing. You had a bit of cardboard, stuck it
in front of a shop on the street. You ghetto
blaster out. You young people don't even know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Perhaps that's why it's a cop so much black, is
that young people don't even know what break dancing is.
They like, I know it's made a comeback, but has
it actually come back quite fair enough that people know
what it was?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Big?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Anyway, I'm green heart retired breakdancer. I should have brought
that back. That did we not have somebody in it?
We should hear somebody in it. We could have brought
back that guy from the boy A videos, a breakdancer
(13:25):
in there out in front of them.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I wonder if he's still around. He's probably retired. Like me,
stop talking, glean see about here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
News talk is talking zid Bean For more from News
Talk said b Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sed BE Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday
versus yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we are
looking back at Monday. Some impressive and yet confusing emergency
housing stats. I've come out. I will wrap the Olympics
(00:44):
and most Golden Olympics ever before any of that. Have
we fixed retail crime? Now that we've put sunny Coschill
in charge of it?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What do we do about retail crime? We have a
group that will kick into gear at some point with
some new suggestions. We've put some physical deterrence into shops
and shopping areas, got some more cops out on the
street in certain areas, with a government that is keen
on real consequences to crime. So these strongest sentences for
convicted criminals. But is this enough? I mean, what is
(01:13):
it going to take to stop there being around eleven
assaults every day? Life isn't getting easier out there for
some people. Times are still tough and look hopefully some
of these solutions will have an impact long term and
we know change takes time, but is there anything left
that we could do short term to solve this issue?
(01:35):
Because you should be able to go to work in
the morning and not worry about someone coming at you
with a hammer.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Unless you're a trader or you work on a building site. Obviously,
then it's all right for people to come at you
with a hammer. They might just be handing it to you. Yeah,
It's funny, isn't it How people can complain and complain
and complain, and then once they actually they've given the
opportunity to come up with solutions.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Not so easy, is it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Maybe if the Sunny's Working Group calls backs and suggest
word by oards.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And more fog getting news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Hopefully they'll come back with some things we have thought of.
Now we've got emergency housing, so the it seems like
this new government's fixed it already. Fantastic.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yesterday the government comes along and claims to have cut
the number of households living in emergency housing by third
in six months. What's more, they said in Auckland they've
almost halved the number of people living in emergency housing
in three months. How can you have the number of
people in emergency housing in three months? Does that make
(02:48):
sense to you? In christ Church, it's gone from two
to eighty five to one hundred and eighty three in
three months. They said they'd used quote, intensive work to
cut the numbers. I don't know whether I'm just cynical,
but I'm Do you believe that you know or do
you think there's some trick, some tricks of you know,
(03:09):
some fudging of the numbers here or the categories that
they're using, something like that. If all we needed was
a bit of intensive work, surely we could have cut
through that long waiting list a lot earlier. Q Karen
McNulty on three News last night, having a crack at
the government.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
They both claiming credit for something they didn't do, and
they're also crying about something when they've made it harder
for people to access it.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
He then went on to say this, in the.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Honest way to deal with the issue of emergency housing
is to build more social houses, and that's the very
thing the government has pulled back on.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Wrong. There is another way that you can deal with
the problem of an increase in demand for social housing.
That's to grow an economy, to get people into well
paid jobs, not everybody wants to be at the mercy
of a failed social housing system.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Do they.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's actually a quite a good point, isn't it. From
right in there, I do sometimes wonder how you you know,
we're way about growing the economy and you know, moving
people into the middle class. They talk about this thing
all this sort of thing all over the world. But
can everybody be in the middle class. If everybody's in
(04:26):
the middle, who's at either end? This is the system
set up to work that way. This is a bit philosophical, really,
isn't it. Let's move on. Talk rang into Andrew Dickinson's
show yesterday's talking about his emergency housing social housing experiences.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
I just got released from present, I mean, and I
went out looking for a place because I mean, I've
been my wife forty nine years and you know, we
still love each other. But I said that maybe what
we might need a break, right, I got a pot
about who week to go by? That's a story on
(05:06):
I say, And that was done. But anyways, and I
readily house in New Zealand, and they said they couldn't
help me because I have to go to something through
some other places. And all right, so I'm backing with
my wife. I'm not meant to be there because it's illegal,
but I don't have anywhere else to go to, right,
(05:26):
And they frequly turned me down. Maybe because it's my age,
because I'm sixty eight, but I'm still fit as the
federal and I still work. Or maybe it's because of
my criminal history. I honestly don't know. Were you just
on the radio not so long ago? Me?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yeah, you're on the radio right now.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
Oh yeah, But listen, you talked about sorting out the problems.
You know, New Yealan's got a problem there. It's so
easy to sort out, you know, I look at it
the same speaking to poor people. Our weakness is our
you know, the weakness is the weakest link. Right, we
(06:11):
bring them up to an acceptable standards, just what we
all win.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yep, I get you. I'm going to ask you, yeah,
ty Hoe, I'm going to ask you some questions here,
Okay when they go high dude, Look, I'm sorry. I
think you can earn some money, and I don't think
you actually fit the threshold for the emergency housing. You
should go out there and work harder and try harder.
Do you get angry about that or did you think yeah,
(06:35):
actually they're right.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Well, just right, mate. I can't say it on the radio,
but I wanted to tell them some day.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Sixty eight day. You see how many people bring into
the radio and then don't realize that they're on the radio,
and how that happens. Right the Olympics, they've got us
feeling good, didn't they?
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Really?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yesterday is one of the better Mondays, isn't it. I
felt like everybody was walking around in a bit of
a golden glow.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Hamoush Kurr almost didn't even qualify for this final. He
only just got in there. It was a very real
chance that he wasn't going to be there at all.
And then from being the guy who almost doesn't get in,
he goes on to win gold, and not just gold,
but like the bullsiest gold, you can get gold in
a jump off. He could have and this is the
thing that I love the most about this particular medal,
he could have just decided to share gold with the
(07:24):
American jumper. That's what they did four years ago when
they had a similar situation, and he and the other
guy both decided nope, they wanted to do a jump
off and find out who actually was the real gold
medalist between the two of themselves. Now that's risky because
in doing that, when you have a jump off, you
go from two golds to basically one guy gets gold,
one guy gets silver. And that must have been a
(07:45):
real He must have considered this, hamishkur and thought that
could be me. I could walk away with only a
silver medal. And of course the American wants to jump off,
but it is very against the Kiwig personality, isn't it
to go all out and do something like that. But
Hamish Kurr did it. Hamish curR won, and he got
our first jumps jumps event medal in seventy plus years.
(08:05):
The fact that his medal was the standout of the game,
though I Reckon says a lot about how special it
was because there was some pretty tough competition and most
like most most obviously coming from Lisa Carrington, who got
three gold medals in one games. She now get this,
she has got eight gold medals, which is more than
any other key we ever and that apparently counts now
(08:26):
for twelve percent of all of the gold medals that
this country has ever got. Twelve percent of them hang
around Lisa Carrington's neck what a legend. And as I
said at the start, what to turn around in our
fortunes for these games?
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Right?
Speaker 8 (08:38):
We end up being like kinda underwhelmed last week, and
then this week we got ten gold medals, which is outstanding.
Now to put that in perspective, between eighty eight and
two thousand and eight, the most that we ever got
in a single games was only three, and this time
we've got ten. We now sit at eleventh on the
medals table. That's not per capita. We're not doing that
little game, are we. That's just the straight medals table.
(08:59):
We are number eleven. Just above us is Germany and Italy.
They've got eleven golds each, and of course we've got ten.
Just want to point out Germany's got a population of
eighty three million and Italy's got a population of sixty million,
and here we are like closing it on six and
we've got almost as many gold medals as them. So
how good in the end, slow build Olympics, but one
that's going to be very very hard to beat in
(09:19):
the future.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's funny how many people have made comments like that
last one, like, oh, I know, how are we going
to do better than that? Next?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Time.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I wish we hadn't done.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So well now news talk has it been it's.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Really what they mean. But it's quite funny, isn't it.
It's four years away. Worry it's worried about it.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
In four years there so many highlights for me. I've
tried to understand the whole story with the Australian breakdancer
ray Gun, because that did look terrible in front. I
watched the breakdancing that was a fail. I thought it
would be indoors as kind of was surprised it was
outdoors on a round stage. I thought that was weird.
(10:00):
And the Australian ray Gun, which she was terrible, and
I still don't quite know what's gone on with her.
I thought there'd been interviews with her in the Australian
press did just say kind of why she was so terrible,
And in fact, not only was she terrible, but probably
she actually I think that she disrespected that form of
(10:25):
dance of breaking. That would be my take on that.
When she was doing the Kangaroo and the Snake and
the wombat and various other things, it wasn't good. So
I don't think it's coming back next time In Los
Angeles there's like non contact gridiron.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Go figure.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
There's also an American Ninja Warrior based obstacle course. Well
that will be huge. But yeah, I just thought the
New Zealand effort absolutely extraordinary. I was fortunate enough to
catch all the cycling last night. I went to bed
just before the last match in the Omnium. They didn't
think we'd be in the middle contention for that, so
(11:12):
I feel kind of bad quitting out on that one.
But the sprint race to go two from two and
both the semi and the final was just unbelievable. So yeah,
for the first week, I said two weeks is not
long enough, there's too much sport. But by the end
of it, I was just yeah, cup was full, just
(11:33):
absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, the breakdancing thing, you can't disrespect the dance, but
I did get the out of the way straight off.
And also, I have actually not seen the Ragun video
that everybody else has been talking about, and I kind
of don't want to now because I've heard so many
people talk about it. I feel like it's almost better
(12:01):
in my mind than it can possibly be in real life.
I used to consider myself to be not a bad breakdancer.
I would have been wrong about that. But the Blue
Light discos when I was about thirteen, me and Nanny
row Matti, we used to take to the dance floor and.
Speaker 8 (12:28):
I'm pretty sure I was terrible.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I don't know what Marcus means about it being
surprised that it was outside. Always thought that was the
whole thing. You had a bit of cardboard, stuck it
in front of a shop on the street. You ghetto
blaster out. You young people don't even know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Perhaps that's why it's a cop so much black, is
that young people don't even know what break dancing is.
They like, I know it's made a comeback, but has
it actually come back quite fair enough that people know
what it was?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Big?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Anyway, I'm green heart retired breakdancer. I should have brought
that back. That did we not have somebody in it?
We should hear somebody in it. We could have brought
back that guy from the boy A videos, a breakdancer
(13:25):
in there out in front of them.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I wonder if he's still around. He's probably retired. Like me,
stop talking, glean see about here tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
News talk is talking zid Bean For more from News
Talk said b Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
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