September 2, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Don't Worry About It/When Did Water Get So Hard?/Winston Wags the Dog. Again/No Hope for All Blacks This Weekend/Keep Things Un-American
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Water back on the agenda
in Andrew Dickinson's World, Anyway, foreign.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Fires back where they gone?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Anyway, We've unbanned the really rich ones all blacks versus
the Republic of South Africa this weekend.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I think Marcus is fizzing about that, literally fizzing.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I think you see what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Shortly and then yes, this seven and a half billion
dollars worth of investment from Amazon Web Services because it's
starta center means that we obviously need to decide how
to pronounce data. But before any of that, ACT has
released its climate policy, and basically they don't want us
(01:22):
to have one.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I think there will be a lot of people who
hear this from ACT and write it off as nutting
climate change denier stuff. It is not think about the
Paris Agreement critically right, set aside, you know your vibes,
whether you want to help the climate or just set
all of that stuff aside, just to think about this
critically as to whether it works or not. And you
(01:44):
can see it doesn't work. I mean, I stand to
be corrected, but I cannot see any country that is
meeting the targets. We will not meet the targets. The US,
one of the world's biggest polluters, has pulled out. China,
the world's biggest polluter, is still building cold powered plants.
I mean, we are fretting about the one coal powered
(02:04):
plant that we've got that building heaps of them. India,
another one of the biggest pollute, also doing the same
with coal powered plants. In which case, why would a
country responsible for what was it at the last count
was zero point one seven percent of the world's emissions
or something like that. Why would a country responsible for
such a small amount continue to persist with the climate
the Paris Climate Agreement. We're not saving the planet. We're
(02:25):
just making kiwis poorer. And power is so expensive that
we now have people who cannot turn on the heat
every time Huntley booms. Expensive coal coal, by the way,
which is not expensive, but which we have decided to
artificially make expensive in order to save the planet. Now
the Gnats have shot this down already and say it's
not happening. That's smart politics for them, because they've got
to hold onto the swing voters who might react badly,
(02:46):
you know, without thinking things through to anything that looks
like climate change denial. The Gnats might want to be
careful about what they rule in or out hard before
the election because they might need flexibility after the election.
Given both of their coalition partners want out of Paris
Act officially wants out unless things change. New Zealand first
keeps hinting at it, and if National is honest with itself,
they should want to get out of it too, because
(03:08):
power is making us poorer but not doing anything to
save the planet.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I guess that's the real That is the real question.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Is any of these policies actually making a difference to
the climate. If not, then by all means get rid
of them. If they are helping a bit, do we
start doing them just because it's a bit hard, Like
what is the price that we're actually.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Willing to pay to save the planet.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And when we say save the planet, we mean keep
it inhabitable to human life.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It seems like at the moment we don't want to.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Pay any price at all. We're not willing to sacrifice anything.
We want to just keep our big cars and trucks
and utes running. We want to keep the power and
lights on at all costs. Fear enough that that's what
we want to do. But yeah, when we start choking
out in one hundred years time, I mean obviously it
(04:03):
won't be ours.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So oh yeah, who keys news talk?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Has it been?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It's the business.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
In a long time ago, we were worried about whether
we could swim in the rivers, and now we seem
to be worried about whether we can actually just have water.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Three Waters was going to force water services to be
amalgamated the assets used to borrow against and the loans
paid off by water rates, not rates, to give them
more money to fix the pipes. Local Water had done
well allows for that to happen too, But the big
difference was it has to be done voluntarily by the councils,
and it turns out they don't want to do that.
And I'll give you a concrete example. Thames Corrimandal might
(04:38):
be a water services situation. The place is mountainous, the
weather events extreme, there's hardly any rate payers and then
the population explodes in summer. The Thames Corimandal Council wanted
to join forces with Todonga and Western Bays to form
a bigger regional body to fund the water off their
existing assets. But Teodonger doesn't want the hassle of Thames Corimandal.
Who would and so that deal hasn't happened. And the
(05:01):
estimation is that this is going to put five to
six hundred dollars onto the Thames Corimandal rates. Now we
all want better water, but we also want lower rates,
and we're going to find out tomorrow what's going to
happen with the water. But at the moment, to me,
it looks like the policy should be renamed local Water,
done not very well and not funded. And after all
(05:22):
the talk about water reform, we're right back at where
we started from. And you and I and all the
ratepayers are the ones who are going to have to
pay for it.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
There's definitely a coming home to roost feeling about all
this isn't there. I keep, and I know I have
on this podcast many times, certainly in the last year
or so. I keep wondering why it is that this
has suddenly becomes such an issue this whole Our councils
don't seem to be able to afford to do anything.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It seems like they were going on.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
For like one hundred and fifty years, these councils, some
of them perfectly fine, and then all of a sudden
everything's broken and we can't afford to fix anything.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
What happened between then and now?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Qu's talk, sib.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Maybe, just maybe some of these millionaire foreign investors, multimillionaire
foreign investors that are winding up to come and buy
a house in New Zealand, maybe they'll be able to help.
They seem to have just zillions of dollars to spend here,
happy to do it, banging a few million into the
(06:31):
water infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Surely they can do that.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
So I want to know what the cost was to
get that. Let's not say U turn, let's not say
revers well, let's say clarification. And I also want to
know what New Zealand first voters think. I know, you
love him, you'd follow him over the trenches. There's no
man like Winston. You know, he's probably up there next
(06:56):
to Michael Joseph Savage on the wall, the framed print
with some plastic roses and a vas underneath gathering dust.
But do you understand that he has made this decision
for the right reasons? To me, it makes sense. Yeah,
I really don't think. I mean, I'm sure there will
(07:18):
be some cashed up Kiwis who are a little brassed
off that their dream home may now go up in
price by half a million dollars more because they've got
foreign bars putting on the same property. But you know,
I'm not going to cry and mccorney's over them. There's
not going to be that many affected, so I get
where they're coming from. I just want to know how
(07:42):
much it costs National and Act to get to New
Zealand First Agreement, because yeah, don't get something for nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, it costs about three million dollars per house.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Admit didn't National want it to be the was it
two million or three million that they wanted to set
the benchmark up?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And that's five million and.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's about fifty property that have sold and bought every
year in their price range.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I'm literally pulling these figures out of my ass.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So if they're wrong, and they probably are, I just
know that National wanted it to be higher. New Zealand
first wanted it to be higher, and New Zealand first
got their way by the sender of things right. Massive
weekend this weekend, because it will be the weekend where
(08:39):
this long running statistic of the All Blacks not losing
at eden Park will come to an end when they
lose to the South African Every team. And I think
Marcus here will sum it up beautifully as to why
that is going to happen the.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
All Blacks versus South Africa, and the All Blacks team
is coming back from an ill discipline performance in Argentina
up before performance in Argentina and a loss with three
yellow cards. We've heard and we've read all the Gregapol
articles that said everything about it. We've been cheating forever.
We've been cheating at all levels. We've lost the game,
we've lost the high ball. We can't jump, we're scared
(09:22):
to jump. We don't jump well, we've got the wrong wings.
You've heard it all, you've.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Read it all.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
And South Africa this is their big chance to win,
and this is their big chance to break the Eden Park.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Who doo.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I don't ever know whether word whodoo comes from and
I don't feel that comfortable using it. But there is
a hoodo on Eden Park that means that no teams
can win there. However, a hoodoo is a run of
band like associated with a particular person group of activity
who doo.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So there's a hoodoo.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Origins are weird. They could come from Garda or Bannin.
But the hoodoo could well be broken on Saturday, and
that's fine if that's if it's our time, it's our time.
I can't wait to have the hoodoo gone. We've gome say,
sick of people talk about what will break the hoodoo?
When was the last time we had the hoodoo? There's
all sorts of articles going back in time to see
our last loss and Eden pag anyway, so there are
(10:18):
people from South Africa and New Zealand and they mainly
live in the north shore of Auckland. And those people,
by all accounts are fizzing to get going.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So I mean, for a start, there is some great
acma from Marphis there on fizzing. It's possibly the best
pronunciation of a word I've heard this year, So good on.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Him for that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And yeah, I can't disagree with anything that he said there.
We can't jump, can't catch and do dam catch and
it's why we're going.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
To lose this weekend news talk, has it been?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Okay, let's finish up with the old.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Data data, pasta pasta graph graph situation.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Is this data data, this data bank requires heaps of power.
So could this mean the building of a nuclear power plant? Well,
we've seen this on the show before. You know, if
you want to have economic growth, then you need to
have more power. Yeah, and we don't seem to have
enough power at the moment, so it's time.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Jane Jones was pretty pizzine on the idea of nuclear power.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Get those little modular ones going.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
There's a few teeth coming through about data or data.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
Okay, we can't spend the rest of this hour talking
about it and going back before I just had to okay,
what's your natural way of saying it, because we're not
into compelled speech here. Yeah, data data, data data, yep,
data data.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And there was someone mentioned aluminum before.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I'm going to sit with aluminum. I kind of like
rolls off the tongue of the Americans saying.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
My golden rule is whatever the Americans do, do the
opposite That's how I've got to where I am today,
and I'm not going to change now. So yeah, I
can't go with them with the admin. I mean, they
even spell it differently. Come on, all right, that's just stupid. Yeah,
but I hope you've enjoyed all the data on your
graph while you're eating your pasta, and we will see
(12:19):
you back here again tomorrow for more.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Use Talking talkings it Bean for more from used Talk
set b listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Water back on the agenda
in Andrew Dickinson's World, Anyway, foreign.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Fires back where they gone?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Anyway, We've unbanned the really rich ones all blacks versus
the Republic of South Africa this weekend.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I think Marcus is fizzing about that, literally fizzing.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I think you see what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Shortly and then yes, this seven and a half billion
dollars worth of investment from Amazon Web Services because it's
starta center means that we obviously need to decide how
to pronounce data. But before any of that, ACT has
released its climate policy, and basically they don't want us
(01:22):
to have one.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I think there will be a lot of people who
hear this from ACT and write it off as nutting
climate change denier stuff. It is not think about the
Paris Agreement critically right, set aside, you know your vibes,
whether you want to help the climate or just set
all of that stuff aside, just to think about this
critically as to whether it works or not. And you
(01:44):
can see it doesn't work. I mean, I stand to
be corrected, but I cannot see any country that is
meeting the targets. We will not meet the targets. The US,
one of the world's biggest polluters, has pulled out. China,
the world's biggest polluter, is still building cold powered plants.
I mean, we are fretting about the one coal powered
(02:04):
plant that we've got that building heaps of them. India,
another one of the biggest pollute, also doing the same
with coal powered plants. In which case, why would a
country responsible for what was it at the last count
was zero point one seven percent of the world's emissions
or something like that. Why would a country responsible for
such a small amount continue to persist with the climate
the Paris Climate Agreement. We're not saving the planet. We're
(02:25):
just making kiwis poorer. And power is so expensive that
we now have people who cannot turn on the heat
every time Huntley booms. Expensive coal coal, by the way,
which is not expensive, but which we have decided to
artificially make expensive in order to save the planet. Now
the Gnats have shot this down already and say it's
not happening. That's smart politics for them, because they've got
to hold onto the swing voters who might react badly,
(02:46):
you know, without thinking things through to anything that looks
like climate change denial. The Gnats might want to be
careful about what they rule in or out hard before
the election because they might need flexibility after the election.
Given both of their coalition partners want out of Paris
Act officially wants out unless things change. New Zealand first
keeps hinting at it, and if National is honest with itself,
they should want to get out of it too, because
(03:08):
power is making us poorer but not doing anything to
save the planet.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I guess that's the real That is the real question.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Is any of these policies actually making a difference to
the climate. If not, then by all means get rid
of them. If they are helping a bit, do we
start doing them just because it's a bit hard, Like
what is the price that we're actually.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Willing to pay to save the planet.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And when we say save the planet, we mean keep
it inhabitable to human life.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It seems like at the moment we don't want to.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Pay any price at all. We're not willing to sacrifice anything.
We want to just keep our big cars and trucks
and utes running. We want to keep the power and
lights on at all costs. Fear enough that that's what
we want to do. But yeah, when we start choking
out in one hundred years time, I mean obviously it
(04:03):
won't be ours.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So oh yeah, who keys news talk?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Has it been?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It's the business.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
In a long time ago, we were worried about whether
we could swim in the rivers, and now we seem
to be worried about whether we can actually just have water.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Three Waters was going to force water services to be
amalgamated the assets used to borrow against and the loans
paid off by water rates, not rates, to give them
more money to fix the pipes. Local Water had done
well allows for that to happen too, But the big
difference was it has to be done voluntarily by the councils,
and it turns out they don't want to do that.
And I'll give you a concrete example. Thames Corrimandal might
(04:38):
be a water services situation. The place is mountainous, the
weather events extreme, there's hardly any rate payers and then
the population explodes in summer. The Thames Corimandal Council wanted
to join forces with Todonga and Western Bays to form
a bigger regional body to fund the water off their
existing assets. But Teodonger doesn't want the hassle of Thames Corimandal.
Who would and so that deal hasn't happened. And the
(05:01):
estimation is that this is going to put five to
six hundred dollars onto the Thames Corimandal rates. Now we
all want better water, but we also want lower rates,
and we're going to find out tomorrow what's going to
happen with the water. But at the moment, to me,
it looks like the policy should be renamed local Water,
done not very well and not funded. And after all
(05:22):
the talk about water reform, we're right back at where
we started from. And you and I and all the
ratepayers are the ones who are going to have to
pay for it.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
There's definitely a coming home to roost feeling about all
this isn't there. I keep, and I know I have
on this podcast many times, certainly in the last year
or so. I keep wondering why it is that this
has suddenly becomes such an issue this whole Our councils
don't seem to be able to afford to do anything.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It seems like they were going on.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
For like one hundred and fifty years, these councils, some
of them perfectly fine, and then all of a sudden
everything's broken and we can't afford to fix anything.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
What happened between then and now?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Qu's talk, sib.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Maybe, just maybe some of these millionaire foreign investors, multimillionaire
foreign investors that are winding up to come and buy
a house in New Zealand, maybe they'll be able to help.
They seem to have just zillions of dollars to spend here,
happy to do it, banging a few million into the
(06:31):
water infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Surely they can do that.
Speaker 7 (06:33):
So I want to know what the cost was to
get that. Let's not say U turn, let's not say
revers well, let's say clarification. And I also want to
know what New Zealand first voters think. I know, you
love him, you'd follow him over the trenches. There's no
man like Winston. You know, he's probably up there next
(06:56):
to Michael Joseph Savage on the wall, the framed print
with some plastic roses and a vas underneath gathering dust.
But do you understand that he has made this decision
for the right reasons? To me, it makes sense. Yeah,
I really don't think. I mean, I'm sure there will
(07:18):
be some cashed up Kiwis who are a little brassed
off that their dream home may now go up in
price by half a million dollars more because they've got
foreign bars putting on the same property. But you know,
I'm not going to cry and mccorney's over them. There's
not going to be that many affected, so I get
where they're coming from. I just want to know how
(07:42):
much it costs National and Act to get to New
Zealand First Agreement, because yeah, don't get something for nothing.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, it costs about three million dollars per house.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Admit didn't National want it to be the was it
two million or three million that they wanted to set
the benchmark up?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And that's five million and.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It's about fifty property that have sold and bought every
year in their price range.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I'm literally pulling these figures out of my ass.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So if they're wrong, and they probably are, I just
know that National wanted it to be higher. New Zealand
first wanted it to be higher, and New Zealand first
got their way by the sender of things right. Massive
weekend this weekend, because it will be the weekend where
(08:39):
this long running statistic of the All Blacks not losing
at eden Park will come to an end when they
lose to the South African Every team. And I think
Marcus here will sum it up beautifully as to why
that is going to happen the.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
All Blacks versus South Africa, and the All Blacks team
is coming back from an ill discipline performance in Argentina
up before performance in Argentina and a loss with three
yellow cards. We've heard and we've read all the Gregapol
articles that said everything about it. We've been cheating forever.
We've been cheating at all levels. We've lost the game,
we've lost the high ball. We can't jump, we're scared
(09:22):
to jump. We don't jump well, we've got the wrong wings.
You've heard it all, you've.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Read it all.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
And South Africa this is their big chance to win,
and this is their big chance to break the Eden Park.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Who doo.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I don't ever know whether word whodoo comes from and
I don't feel that comfortable using it. But there is
a hoodo on Eden Park that means that no teams
can win there. However, a hoodoo is a run of
band like associated with a particular person group of activity
who doo.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So there's a hoodoo.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Origins are weird. They could come from Garda or Bannin.
But the hoodoo could well be broken on Saturday, and
that's fine if that's if it's our time, it's our time.
I can't wait to have the hoodoo gone. We've gome say,
sick of people talk about what will break the hoodoo?
When was the last time we had the hoodoo? There's
all sorts of articles going back in time to see
our last loss and Eden pag anyway, so there are
(10:18):
people from South Africa and New Zealand and they mainly
live in the north shore of Auckland. And those people,
by all accounts are fizzing to get going.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So I mean, for a start, there is some great
acma from Marphis there on fizzing. It's possibly the best
pronunciation of a word I've heard this year, So good on.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Him for that.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And yeah, I can't disagree with anything that he said there.
We can't jump, can't catch and do dam catch and
it's why we're going.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
To lose this weekend news talk, has it been?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Okay, let's finish up with the old.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Data data, pasta pasta graph graph situation.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Is this data data, this data bank requires heaps of power.
So could this mean the building of a nuclear power plant? Well,
we've seen this on the show before. You know, if
you want to have economic growth, then you need to
have more power. Yeah, and we don't seem to have
enough power at the moment, so it's time.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Jane Jones was pretty pizzine on the idea of nuclear power.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Get those little modular ones going.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
There's a few teeth coming through about data or data.
Speaker 9 (11:34):
Okay, we can't spend the rest of this hour talking
about it and going back before I just had to okay,
what's your natural way of saying it, because we're not
into compelled speech here. Yeah, data data, data data, yep,
data data.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And there was someone mentioned aluminum before.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
I'm going to sit with aluminum. I kind of like
rolls off the tongue of the Americans saying.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
My golden rule is whatever the Americans do, do the
opposite That's how I've got to where I am today,
and I'm not going to change now. So yeah, I
can't go with them with the admin. I mean, they
even spell it differently. Come on, all right, that's just stupid. Yeah,
but I hope you've enjoyed all the data on your
graph while you're eating your pasta, and we will see
(12:19):
you back here again tomorrow for more.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Use Talking talkings it Bean for more from used Talk
set b listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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