August 5, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) No Matter What You Do/There's No Saving This Planet/Why Fund Terrible TV?/Marcus Masterclass
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said B Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. We're gonna dig down into
fossil fuels. That was a delivery deliberate pun so I'm
not asking you to excuse it. We're funding reality TV
(00:46):
for some reason. And Marcus is going to give you
a classic demonstration of being Marcus at the end of
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So that are we worth hanging around for?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But first up, the introduction of more vocational training at school.
Instead of always talking about this, aren't they getting getting
kid's life ready?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The ones who are academic nerds?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And now I think we're seeing a recognition that not
everybody is cut not every young person is cut from
the same cloth. We need all sorts of minds, all
sorts of abilities, all sorts of passions, and all sorts
of interests. And I think by giving the trades a
greater focus, the idea of vocational education are greater focus,
(01:36):
we will have a more tolerant society. Not everybody's going
to be forced into the same little grouping, into the
same little way of learning, way of being humbll for it.
How many of you have degrees that you think is
absolutely worth every cent you paid for it. How many
(02:01):
of you think if only I hadn't done that degree.
How many employers are thinking, yes, I'm only going to
get the right people, motivated, inspired, capable people coming into
our trades and adding value.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Are we seeing that recognition?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't know the full details on how this is
all going to work, but I hear a lot of
talk about reading, writing, and arithmetic and exams, and.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I don't know how much that helps well kids like me. Basically,
I can't let it go.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I was scarred by a school ended up in the
transition to work class, which I think most schools call
gateway these days, because they just didn't know what to
do with me. And I still am not convinced that
I've seen any sign of any effort to take care.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Of kids like me.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I mean, I think kids like me should be made
to sit out in the cloak day, I think, which
is indeed.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
What often happened.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's a bit like Harry Potter under the stairs, and
it's a great origin story. So I didn't end up
becoming magic. I mean, I guess I'm working with audio
magic here. Let's talk about fossil fuels. Now, where to start.
I were going to be importing a heap of coal
(03:31):
to make our power go. So that's great, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Last time I saw them, there was a woman up
there in the bucket, you know, health and safety be damned,
zooming into a call with a journalist. And she did
this completely unironically, surrounded by a plethora of plastic in
things like the cables she was using, her cell phone,
the battery packs, the tools, even her helmet plastic, plastic, plastic.
(03:57):
She explained that coal was evil, of course, and would
eventually ruin and kill the planet, never mind the fact
that her presence in the bucket meant that workers were
now having to truck their coal from one site to
another using yes, you guessed it, diesel engines rather than
the aerial rope pulley system whose buckets she and her
(04:17):
plastic fantastic friends were now occupying. No shame either, apparently
about a helicopter flying in this was the local news
reporting a helicopter flying in Yes with avgas to check
on the protest is after.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
A bit of rain. Paul thinks, the reality is this,
nobody's saying coal is amazing and it's the only solution
to our problem, and let's burn it till we all burn.
I've not heard anyone say that. They're just saying we
need this reliable fuel to tide us over till we
(04:53):
don't need it anymore. If the choice is to either
burn coal or have a cold shower, I know what
I'm doing. And let's not forget that even if we
did stop digging up coal and using it to heat
our homes occasion, some other country far away would be
doing exactly that anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, so this is typical of the Oh, it's just
a bit hard attitude that really seems to have taken
hold now in this second half of the twenty twenties decade,
because we're not prepared to have cold showers or shorter
showers in order to saving the planet is not the
(05:35):
right phrase. And I think that's where we get bogged down,
because the planet's not going anywhere, We're just making it
habitable for human life. And I guess, but maybe if
human life means having cold showers, we don't want to.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We don't want it. I think that's what we've decided here.
You've talk said.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Is that what Andrew thinks? He called into the Afternoon
Show yesterday.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
I recalled about twenty years ago when I was down
the South Aim a couple of scientists and I think
they were animals, yes, I think they were geo's and
these guys were talking about the coal stocks available in
Southland and Southland alone. Now they both agreed that there
was good stocks of very good the high quality coal,
(06:25):
Ohio coal you'd be familiar with if you're in the
south Old and it gets used a lot. We're used
to it, and boilers and hospitals and schools and public
buildings and all sorts of things. But the one point
that they couldn't agree on was how much there was now.
One of these floakes said, look, there's enough to power
New Zealand's power needs, the whole country's pound needs with
the coal that we've gotten southend for the next thousand years.
(06:46):
And the other fellow, another sidist, said, listen, old chap, No,
you're completely wrong on that. It's not a thousand years,
it's two thousand years.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Now.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
The point is we've got absolutely vast, vast resources here
in Southland and Huntley is another caller has spoken about
and said that's why the Huntley power Station was built
there sitting on top of a coal mine. But there's
tens of thousands of truck movements from Auckland Port of
Auckland down to down to Huntley with a filthy Indonesian coal.
(07:20):
We've got gas resources. I'm here in North Otago. We've
got guess resources offshore here in the Otago basin that
we're first explored and looked at and drilled for on
an exploratory basis in the sixties and then again in
the two thousands. And believe you me, there is absolutely
(07:43):
tens millions of it, of guests underwater under the surface
anyway under the sea forces just sitting out there just
waiting and the companies to drill for it. They know
it's there, they plugged it and they're just sitting on it.
I'm with Shane James. We need to drill, baby drill
and dig baby dig if we want to keep our nurses,
(08:05):
their doctors, our hospitals, there, our roading our school's going.
If we want to keep that going, we've got to
get money into this country.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we can keep it
going for ale it's another fifty maybe one hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Years, so let's go big, baby dig. Still right, how
do you feel about the whole.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Funding stupid reality TV shows that shouldn't have been embedded
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You feel good about that?
Speaker 8 (08:35):
Celebrity Treasure Island will never make money again. Probably traders
will be lucky to survive whatever it is that happens
to TV three post the sale. Shorty Street will never
be commercially successful ever again. I would bet we actually
don't need this stuff on Telly. That's what they'll tell you.
They say, Oh, I've got to see Kiwi faces on Telly.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
No you don't.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
You don't need to see Kiwi faces and Kiwi stories
on the big screen or the small screen when you
have your phone screen. If you want to see Keiwi stories,
you want to see Kei we accents, you want to
see some Kiwi humor, dial up Thomas Sainsbury on your
Facebook feed, have a look at memoirs of Amori doing
her comedy, or Joe Daimond or even Kate Hawksby's Instagram.
I mean, I think we should stop funding shows that
(09:14):
fewer and fewer people are watching and start looking at
what people are actually doing on their phones. New Zealanders
broke it were broke if we can't afford to build
a proper hospital for DNED and we cannot seriously be
able to fund trash TV.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, the old public service broadcasting. It's supposed to be
stuff for the public good? Is it the public interest?
And I'm just not sure about how skennily clad celebrities
bitching about each other's behind each other's backs. I mean,
(09:50):
I get, I mean, yeah, definitely, you know, putting them
on a remote island somewhere where they can't interact with
the rest of society. I think that's probably a good idea.
But I think that's a different sort of thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We don't have to watch it, do we? News Talk
right now?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
As promised, here's a little lesson on how to be Marcus.
If you've ever wanted to host a well, it's probably
the most successful show in history on radio in some ways,
he sent me, won a lot of awards. This is
how you do it right here, he teases, you for
two and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm going to play the whole thing.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
I don't know a huge amount about McDonald's or McDonald's figures,
but they've only just revealed, you know, what Grimace is,
that purple blob. Well, I found out today what Grimace
was supposed to be. I've never ever thought about it,
but no one's even known. But when you find out
(10:51):
what Grimace is, it's probably going to surprise you because
no one apparently knew what Grimace was. I don't even
know what the point of Grimace was. So one of
those minifigures, and well maybe it was, I say a minifigure.
It's kind of involved with the milkshake and part of
the happy meals. Yes, this is right. This is like
McDonald's one oh one. But if you've yeah, if you
(11:16):
have wondered about what Grimmace is, is there anyone out
there that has wondered that? That's the That's the first
part of the question, because without that, we probably haven't
anything to tell you about that. But anyway, back to Grimace,
and I think I tell you what. I think the
McDonald's have given up on their figures, and the old
guy with the big shoes, the clown.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I don't know why.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I think probably because they thought it was for children,
and it's become a more serious kind of a thing
than that McDonald's. It's no longer kid's food. That's right imagined.
But they've given up on the clown. But yes, the
thing about Grimace is they finally revealed what Grimace is.
Anyone has it, I guess or if you often thought
this is only breaking news, it's come out three hours ago.
(12:04):
He's made his debut in nineteen seventy one. Is Evil Grimace,
a scaly four armed villain who stole cups of McDonald
land to prevent anyone from enjoying milkshakes or coca cola.
And so there was the Hamburglar, and there was the
clown Ronald McDonald, and there was Grimace, and there was
a young girl that looked like a chicken. That was
(12:27):
a girl, which is bad since they've got now McNuggets
and you don't need the chickens. And there was Grimmace shakes,
and there was Happy Meals with a Grimace on the
front of it. But no one knew what Grimace was. Anyway,
it has been revealed today. This will come as a
surprise to you that Grimace is a giant taste bud.
So people thought it was a grape or a milkshaker,
(12:49):
all sorts of things. But there we go to giant
taste bud. Not that you'd ever know, you said, a
taste bug with a taste bud with arms and legs.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
But there we go.
Speaker 9 (12:57):
That is Grimace. That's happening there.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean, come on, that's the master at work right there,
isn't it. That's I mean, if I was wearing a hat,
it'd be off right now, it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Would be so off. I am off.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Because it's the end of the podcast and I'll see
you veck here again for the beginning of another one.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Tomorrow us Talking Talking Said Bean.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
For more from News Talk Said b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said B Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. We're gonna dig down into
fossil fuels. That was a delivery deliberate pun so I'm
not asking you to excuse it. We're funding reality TV
(00:46):
for some reason. And Marcus is going to give you
a classic demonstration of being Marcus at the end of
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So that are we worth hanging around for?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
But first up, the introduction of more vocational training at school.
Instead of always talking about this, aren't they getting getting
kid's life ready?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The ones who are academic nerds?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And now I think we're seeing a recognition that not
everybody is cut not every young person is cut from
the same cloth. We need all sorts of minds, all
sorts of abilities, all sorts of passions, and all sorts
of interests. And I think by giving the trades a
greater focus, the idea of vocational education are greater focus,
(01:36):
we will have a more tolerant society. Not everybody's going
to be forced into the same little grouping, into the
same little way of learning, way of being humbll for it.
How many of you have degrees that you think is
absolutely worth every cent you paid for it. How many
(02:01):
of you think if only I hadn't done that degree.
How many employers are thinking, yes, I'm only going to
get the right people, motivated, inspired, capable people coming into
our trades and adding value.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Are we seeing that recognition?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't know the full details on how this is
all going to work, but I hear a lot of
talk about reading, writing, and arithmetic and exams, and.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I don't know how much that helps well kids like me. Basically,
I can't let it go.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I was scarred by a school ended up in the
transition to work class, which I think most schools call
gateway these days, because they just didn't know what to
do with me. And I still am not convinced that
I've seen any sign of any effort to take care.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Of kids like me.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I mean, I think kids like me should be made
to sit out in the cloak day, I think, which
is indeed.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
What often happened.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's a bit like Harry Potter under the stairs, and
it's a great origin story. So I didn't end up
becoming magic. I mean, I guess I'm working with audio
magic here. Let's talk about fossil fuels. Now, where to start.
I were going to be importing a heap of coal
(03:31):
to make our power go. So that's great, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Last time I saw them, there was a woman up
there in the bucket, you know, health and safety be damned,
zooming into a call with a journalist. And she did
this completely unironically, surrounded by a plethora of plastic in
things like the cables she was using, her cell phone,
the battery packs, the tools, even her helmet plastic, plastic, plastic.
(03:57):
She explained that coal was evil, of course, and would
eventually ruin and kill the planet, never mind the fact
that her presence in the bucket meant that workers were
now having to truck their coal from one site to
another using yes, you guessed it, diesel engines rather than
the aerial rope pulley system whose buckets she and her
(04:17):
plastic fantastic friends were now occupying. No shame either, apparently
about a helicopter flying in this was the local news
reporting a helicopter flying in Yes with avgas to check
on the protest is after.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
A bit of rain. Paul thinks, the reality is this,
nobody's saying coal is amazing and it's the only solution
to our problem, and let's burn it till we all burn.
I've not heard anyone say that. They're just saying we
need this reliable fuel to tide us over till we
(04:53):
don't need it anymore. If the choice is to either
burn coal or have a cold shower, I know what
I'm doing. And let's not forget that even if we
did stop digging up coal and using it to heat
our homes occasion, some other country far away would be
doing exactly that anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, so this is typical of the Oh, it's just
a bit hard attitude that really seems to have taken
hold now in this second half of the twenty twenties decade,
because we're not prepared to have cold showers or shorter
showers in order to saving the planet is not the
(05:35):
right phrase. And I think that's where we get bogged down,
because the planet's not going anywhere, We're just making it
habitable for human life. And I guess, but maybe if
human life means having cold showers, we don't want to.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We don't want it. I think that's what we've decided here.
You've talk said.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Is that what Andrew thinks? He called into the Afternoon
Show yesterday.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
I recalled about twenty years ago when I was down
the South Aim a couple of scientists and I think
they were animals, yes, I think they were geo's and
these guys were talking about the coal stocks available in
Southland and Southland alone. Now they both agreed that there
was good stocks of very good the high quality coal,
(06:25):
Ohio coal you'd be familiar with if you're in the
south Old and it gets used a lot. We're used
to it, and boilers and hospitals and schools and public
buildings and all sorts of things. But the one point
that they couldn't agree on was how much there was now.
One of these floakes said, look, there's enough to power
New Zealand's power needs, the whole country's pound needs with
the coal that we've gotten southend for the next thousand years.
(06:46):
And the other fellow, another sidist, said, listen, old chap, No,
you're completely wrong on that. It's not a thousand years,
it's two thousand years.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Now.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
The point is we've got absolutely vast, vast resources here
in Southland and Huntley is another caller has spoken about
and said that's why the Huntley power Station was built
there sitting on top of a coal mine. But there's
tens of thousands of truck movements from Auckland Port of
Auckland down to down to Huntley with a filthy Indonesian coal.
(07:20):
We've got gas resources. I'm here in North Otago. We've
got guess resources offshore here in the Otago basin that
we're first explored and looked at and drilled for on
an exploratory basis in the sixties and then again in
the two thousands. And believe you me, there is absolutely
(07:43):
tens millions of it, of guests underwater under the surface
anyway under the sea forces just sitting out there just
waiting and the companies to drill for it. They know
it's there, they plugged it and they're just sitting on it.
I'm with Shane James. We need to drill, baby drill
and dig baby dig if we want to keep our nurses,
(08:05):
their doctors, our hospitals, there, our roading our school's going.
If we want to keep that going, we've got to
get money into this country.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we can keep it
going for ale it's another fifty maybe one hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Years, so let's go big, baby dig. Still right, how
do you feel about the whole.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Funding stupid reality TV shows that shouldn't have been embedded
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You feel good about that?
Speaker 8 (08:35):
Celebrity Treasure Island will never make money again. Probably traders
will be lucky to survive whatever it is that happens
to TV three post the sale. Shorty Street will never
be commercially successful ever again. I would bet we actually
don't need this stuff on Telly. That's what they'll tell you.
They say, Oh, I've got to see Kiwi faces on Telly.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
No you don't.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
You don't need to see Kiwi faces and Kiwi stories
on the big screen or the small screen when you
have your phone screen. If you want to see Keiwi stories,
you want to see Kei we accents, you want to
see some Kiwi humor, dial up Thomas Sainsbury on your
Facebook feed, have a look at memoirs of Amori doing
her comedy, or Joe Daimond or even Kate Hawksby's Instagram.
I mean, I think we should stop funding shows that
(09:14):
fewer and fewer people are watching and start looking at
what people are actually doing on their phones. New Zealanders
broke it were broke if we can't afford to build
a proper hospital for DNED and we cannot seriously be
able to fund trash TV.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, the old public service broadcasting. It's supposed to be
stuff for the public good? Is it the public interest?
And I'm just not sure about how skennily clad celebrities
bitching about each other's behind each other's backs. I mean,
(09:50):
I get, I mean, yeah, definitely, you know, putting them
on a remote island somewhere where they can't interact with
the rest of society. I think that's probably a good idea.
But I think that's a different sort of thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We don't have to watch it, do we? News Talk
right now?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
As promised, here's a little lesson on how to be Marcus.
If you've ever wanted to host a well, it's probably
the most successful show in history on radio in some ways,
he sent me, won a lot of awards. This is
how you do it right here, he teases, you for
two and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm going to play the whole thing.
Speaker 9 (10:30):
I don't know a huge amount about McDonald's or McDonald's figures,
but they've only just revealed, you know, what Grimace is,
that purple blob. Well, I found out today what Grimace
was supposed to be. I've never ever thought about it,
but no one's even known. But when you find out
(10:51):
what Grimace is, it's probably going to surprise you because
no one apparently knew what Grimace was. I don't even
know what the point of Grimace was. So one of
those minifigures, and well maybe it was, I say a minifigure.
It's kind of involved with the milkshake and part of
the happy meals. Yes, this is right. This is like
McDonald's one oh one. But if you've yeah, if you
(11:16):
have wondered about what Grimmace is, is there anyone out
there that has wondered that? That's the That's the first
part of the question, because without that, we probably haven't
anything to tell you about that. But anyway, back to Grimace,
and I think I tell you what. I think the
McDonald's have given up on their figures, and the old
guy with the big shoes, the clown.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I don't know why.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I think probably because they thought it was for children,
and it's become a more serious kind of a thing
than that McDonald's. It's no longer kid's food. That's right imagined.
But they've given up on the clown. But yes, the
thing about Grimace is they finally revealed what Grimace is.
Anyone has it, I guess or if you often thought
this is only breaking news, it's come out three hours ago.
(12:04):
He's made his debut in nineteen seventy one. Is Evil Grimace,
a scaly four armed villain who stole cups of McDonald
land to prevent anyone from enjoying milkshakes or coca cola.
And so there was the Hamburglar, and there was the
clown Ronald McDonald, and there was Grimace, and there was
a young girl that looked like a chicken. That was
(12:27):
a girl, which is bad since they've got now McNuggets
and you don't need the chickens. And there was Grimmace shakes,
and there was Happy Meals with a Grimace on the
front of it. But no one knew what Grimace was. Anyway,
it has been revealed today. This will come as a
surprise to you that Grimace is a giant taste bud.
So people thought it was a grape or a milkshaker,
(12:49):
all sorts of things. But there we go to giant
taste bud. Not that you'd ever know, you said, a
taste bug with a taste bud with arms and legs.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
But there we go.
Speaker 9 (12:57):
That is Grimace. That's happening there.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean, come on, that's the master at work right there,
isn't it. That's I mean, if I was wearing a hat,
it'd be off right now, it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Would be so off. I am off.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Because it's the end of the podcast and I'll see
you veck here again for the beginning of another one.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Tomorrow us Talking Talking Said Bean.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
For more from News Talk Said b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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