December 17, 2024 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Wednesday versus Yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart. We're looking
back at Tuesday. We've got the the Hi food is
that what we're saying? This thing, this half yearly economic
(00:44):
bloody bar whatever it is that that's happened. We'll catch
up with Nadia Limb because she's one of the great
New Zealanders of Christmas according to The Afternoon Show and
Marcus slash ways in on Soft Survive Screen. But before
any of that, crunch time for counsels. Councilors have been naughty.
(01:10):
Government's going to sort them out.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Which is why I think the fact we have so
many councils is something the government should be doing something about.
Forget about your benchmarking, forget about your dashboard reports and
big sticks. We are overdue in this country for some
serious amalgamations of local councils. Question why do Napier and
Hastings need their own councils? Answer they don't here in
(01:34):
christ Church where we are. Why do we need three councils? Answer?
We don't in Auckland. Maybe the superseding model hasn't been
everything that was cracked up to me, but I'll tell
you what. It looks a much better option than a
truckload of timpot councils all being corrabed by central government
and told to get back to basics. Because the government
(01:56):
is just tinkering at the edges with this one, and
it needs to show some fortitude and it needs to
cut the number of local councils we have in New
Zealand because sixty seven in my book, there is way
too many. So that's how I feel about the government
so called crackdown on local councils in three words could
(02:16):
do better.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Or two words scrap them? One word gone news talk?
Has it been talking about being succincted to the point. Yeah,
I'm letting my feelings about councils pretty well known there,
I think, But I mean Andrew Dickens. I think he says, hey, glasshouses,
(02:43):
throwing stones, take a good look at the government in
the mirror. A year that makes sense must on the
sound a bit random. As we head into the last
couple of days of the year.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I couldn't help thinking the whole thing was a bit
of a dramatic production just before Christmas. Christmas Panto here Ryan.
He was a bluster, maybe part of a bit of
a wa to paint local bodies as a villain for
committing exactly the same crimes that central government are guilty of.
You know, this criticism of council red tape and building consents,
and yet the irony is that it's central government who
(03:16):
writes the rules that the councils are merely enforcing. This
criticism of a lack of long term plans from councils
when central government tends to change its plans every three
years in line with elections. Central government has been palmed
off with some of the biggest and hardest part of
civil maintenance to their councils. They've got the water, the pool,
the rubbish. And then, of course central government has crippled
(03:38):
councils by and allowing them to only make revenue through
property taxes, and then when things go wrong, treat local
government like a whipping boy. I think the point of
the government's attack on councils is to make them more
accountable to rate payers. Yes one, but possibly to distract
voters from looking at central government, and thank you for that.
Councils are recountable to ratepayers. It's called the vote, and
(03:59):
ratepayers are notorious for not bothering to use it anyway.
Bring it on. I support them most of it. I
love the report, I love the ratings, I love the comparison.
Councils should not be afraid of being held to account
because they must believe that making their towns better, and
I believe on the whole they are. They're doing a
pretty good job. On the smell of an oily rag, I.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Still don't understand how. You know, we've had councils for
hundreds of years, not in New Zealand, because we haven't
had anything to hundreds of years in New Zealand, but
councils have been a thing, and for most of that
time they seem to have gone about their business. It's
(04:44):
been a self funding sort of a thing. And then
it just seems like all of a sudden we've sort
of pulled back some kind of secret door and discovered
an enormous debt hole at every council. The suddenly showing
us their debt holes. I don't want to see your
debt hole. Why have you suddenly got one the generations
(05:09):
you never had one before? That's what I don't get.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Que's talk said.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm not sure how much any of this has got
to do with the hifu hi yifu e ye fo,
this thing that we suddenly we're so obsessed with these
things these days, aren't we. There's GDPs and the pmis
and the you know, recession. Are we in recession? Or
(05:34):
was it a double dip, triple dip, quadruple dip? They
have all the dips? What's going on? What's this about?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Remember all that debt that we took on during COVID
to pay for all the nice things like the school
lunches and the cameras on the boats and the bloated bureaucracy,
and our debt jumped from as a percentage of GDP
doubled from twenty to forty percent. Well, we can't start
paying back any of that debt until we're in surplus.
So not until the twenty thirties do we start bucketing
(06:04):
out the water. Our boat took on in the early
twenty twenties. So we're renewing our COVID debt and we're
taking on even more water. We're issuing sixteen percent more
debt over the next four years. That is four times
more than the economists expected. Our debt to GDP ratio
wait for it will hit almost fifty percent at its peak,
(06:29):
and it was usually at around twenty. We know what
the left's answer will be. It will be more tax
but we all know that won't fix our underlying problem,
which is productivity and growth. Nikola Willis is still increasing spending,
She's borrowing more. She's sure leaving the door open to
more cuts. But by the sounds of today, she's taking
(06:51):
the softly, softly, let's get re elected approach, and I
don't think that's going to last. I think she will
get the knife out once people realize just how buggered
this boat is. That we've all been sailing in full
of holes with shoddy captains who long ago abandoned ship.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And it's funny how Rooan was staying there is we're
not even going to look like getting out of this
until the twenty thirties. You realize that, and less than
a couple of weeks time, that's only five years away.
How crazy is that? There's a time amazing it just
(07:27):
keeps going city. So yeah, as we really go whizzing
down the slope into the final few last gasps of
twenty twenty four, Matt and Tyler have been wondering who
are the Great New Zealanders of Christmas. I think that's
what they're calling it. As we said, Nadia Learn it
(07:49):
is one of them. I mean, she's just so cool,
isn't she?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Or the second of our Great New Zealanders of Christmas series?
So yeah, problem, So let's get stuck in. How how
has the farm gone this year? What were the big challenges?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Everything? Such a hard game, honestly, not for the faint hearted. Carloson,
I feel like this is the hardest, trickiest, biggest challenge
that we've ever taken on. And we've done a lot
of different things in our careers, but it's just really
really hard to make it make financial sense farming is
(08:29):
I mean, you hear it that you've got to do
it for the love of it and for the lifestyle,
they say, but there say it is kind of true,
like you wouldn't do it unless you really really loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But she's kind of a reality TV spin off series,
isn't she? Now? The alum from Chef to Cowboy or
whatever it is. It's but like all the spinoff series
from Yellowstone. Watched the final episode of Yellowstone last night.
(09:06):
She's a bit of a psycho, but she's really big.
I'm the lead character there. I don't want to give
you any spoilers. I don't want to say whether she
survived or didn't survive, made it through. If she's going
to go on and have her own spinoff series, it's
(09:26):
probably difficult to do her. She died in the final episode,
I guess. But what's that talking about? Oh yeah, Taylor Sheridan.
What the guy who writes the Yellowstone and eighteen eighty
three and nineteen twenty three and the forthcoming sixty six
(09:49):
sixty six show about the Texas Ranch And it's going
to be one called the Madison, which is something to
do with and you know we've got land Man with
Billy Bobsordon in it, and don't forget the great series Lioness.
He wrote as well, I'm not sure how I got
into this. I haven't even mentioned told it big Tali
(10:09):
sheurdan fan. I don't know that he's written any of
the stuff that Nadia Lim's been in it'd be great
though crossover Nadia lim meets Taylor Sheridan. Is it? Is
it Christmas Eve yet?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It be right. Let's finish up here, and I know
many of you'll be thinking, I thank god, We're coming
to the end. With a soft serve ice cream.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Judy see a Marcus have It emails about New Zealand's
first soft serve ice cream machines. Last up we had
a very good show people talk about soft serve ice
cream in New Zealand and the first soft serve machine
that was at Codylan's dairy up there in TITEBANGI well,
someone else has got in touch with me today. They
had the first soft the first soft serve right, the
(11:03):
first soft serve ice cream machine in the mid seventies.
It was a tailor freeze machine for the restaurant Cafe
ice Cream Parlor at Hamilton Lake Bracket seven Days, licensed
to print money and they said they spent a lot
of time cleaning it. The downside was the cleaning of
(11:27):
this machine. Ron with an engineering background, would take hours
into the evening of particular care sterilization with a testing regime.
As always conscious of customer safety, he was asked by
that milk company to promote this new product in Singapore,
which went well despite the hot condition.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So yeah, it's always been a complicated business. The soft
served machine obviously, because as we all know, they're never working.
I was walking past a McDonald's yesterday evening and I
saw a shine in the window advertising that they now
(12:07):
have chocolate soft served, by which I assume that meant
that they have a chocolate soft served machine that is
also broken, just like the normal soft served machine and
the milkshack machine, which I think we all know is
basically the same machine, isn't it. I mean a McDonald's
milkshake is basically just soft served with a straw, isn't it,
(12:29):
Which is what I like about them. I think it's
one of the best things that you can order at McDonald's.
You can order it, doesn't mean you're going to get
it though, because, like I say, usually broken most machines.
It's fraud printers computer printers I'm talking about, and soft
(12:50):
served slash milkshack machines. There are two things that we've
never really mastered, aren't they. You know, we can send
people to Mars with a spaceship powered by a smartphone
or something, and yet we can't persistently provide Diffinitely, I
(13:12):
looks off sid even know McDonald's claims that they can.
I don't think the robot the pothworps is happening anytime soon.
Based on that, has this been the most random news
talks they had been of the year so far? And
it's mostly to do with the things I've said, not
the things that the host have said. Maybe see if
(13:35):
I can really out the random rate tomorrow on the
penultimate one, then.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
News Talk has Talking Said Been. For more from News
Talk Said B listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sed Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Wednesday versus Yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart. We're looking
back at Tuesday. We've got the the Hi food is
that what we're saying? This thing, this half yearly economic
(00:44):
bloody bar whatever it is that that's happened. We'll catch
up with Nadia Limb because she's one of the great
New Zealanders of Christmas according to The Afternoon Show and
Marcus slash ways in on Soft Survive Screen. But before
any of that, crunch time for counsels. Councilors have been naughty.
(01:10):
Government's going to sort them out.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Which is why I think the fact we have so
many councils is something the government should be doing something about.
Forget about your benchmarking, forget about your dashboard reports and
big sticks. We are overdue in this country for some
serious amalgamations of local councils. Question why do Napier and
Hastings need their own councils? Answer they don't here in
(01:34):
christ Church where we are. Why do we need three councils? Answer?
We don't in Auckland. Maybe the superseding model hasn't been
everything that was cracked up to me, but I'll tell
you what. It looks a much better option than a
truckload of timpot councils all being corrabed by central government
and told to get back to basics. Because the government
(01:56):
is just tinkering at the edges with this one, and
it needs to show some fortitude and it needs to
cut the number of local councils we have in New
Zealand because sixty seven in my book, there is way
too many. So that's how I feel about the government
so called crackdown on local councils in three words could
(02:16):
do better.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Or two words scrap them? One word gone news talk?
Has it been talking about being succincted to the point. Yeah,
I'm letting my feelings about councils pretty well known there,
I think, But I mean Andrew Dickens. I think he says, hey, glasshouses,
(02:43):
throwing stones, take a good look at the government in
the mirror. A year that makes sense must on the
sound a bit random. As we head into the last
couple of days of the year.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I couldn't help thinking the whole thing was a bit
of a dramatic production just before Christmas. Christmas Panto here Ryan.
He was a bluster, maybe part of a bit of
a wa to paint local bodies as a villain for
committing exactly the same crimes that central government are guilty of.
You know, this criticism of council red tape and building consents,
and yet the irony is that it's central government who
(03:16):
writes the rules that the councils are merely enforcing. This
criticism of a lack of long term plans from councils
when central government tends to change its plans every three
years in line with elections. Central government has been palmed
off with some of the biggest and hardest part of
civil maintenance to their councils. They've got the water, the pool,
the rubbish. And then, of course central government has crippled
(03:38):
councils by and allowing them to only make revenue through
property taxes, and then when things go wrong, treat local
government like a whipping boy. I think the point of
the government's attack on councils is to make them more
accountable to rate payers. Yes one, but possibly to distract
voters from looking at central government, and thank you for that.
Councils are recountable to ratepayers. It's called the vote, and
(03:59):
ratepayers are notorious for not bothering to use it anyway.
Bring it on. I support them most of it. I
love the report, I love the ratings, I love the comparison.
Councils should not be afraid of being held to account
because they must believe that making their towns better, and
I believe on the whole they are. They're doing a
pretty good job. On the smell of an oily rag, I.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Still don't understand how. You know, we've had councils for
hundreds of years, not in New Zealand, because we haven't
had anything to hundreds of years in New Zealand, but
councils have been a thing, and for most of that
time they seem to have gone about their business. It's
(04:44):
been a self funding sort of a thing. And then
it just seems like all of a sudden we've sort
of pulled back some kind of secret door and discovered
an enormous debt hole at every council. The suddenly showing
us their debt holes. I don't want to see your
debt hole. Why have you suddenly got one the generations
(05:09):
you never had one before? That's what I don't get.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Que's talk said.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm not sure how much any of this has got
to do with the hifu hi yifu e ye fo,
this thing that we suddenly we're so obsessed with these
things these days, aren't we. There's GDPs and the pmis
and the you know, recession. Are we in recession? Or
(05:34):
was it a double dip, triple dip, quadruple dip? They
have all the dips? What's going on? What's this about?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Remember all that debt that we took on during COVID
to pay for all the nice things like the school
lunches and the cameras on the boats and the bloated bureaucracy,
and our debt jumped from as a percentage of GDP
doubled from twenty to forty percent. Well, we can't start
paying back any of that debt until we're in surplus.
So not until the twenty thirties do we start bucketing
(06:04):
out the water. Our boat took on in the early
twenty twenties. So we're renewing our COVID debt and we're
taking on even more water. We're issuing sixteen percent more
debt over the next four years. That is four times
more than the economists expected. Our debt to GDP ratio
wait for it will hit almost fifty percent at its peak,
(06:29):
and it was usually at around twenty. We know what
the left's answer will be. It will be more tax
but we all know that won't fix our underlying problem,
which is productivity and growth. Nikola Willis is still increasing spending,
She's borrowing more. She's sure leaving the door open to
more cuts. But by the sounds of today, she's taking
(06:51):
the softly, softly, let's get re elected approach, and I
don't think that's going to last. I think she will
get the knife out once people realize just how buggered
this boat is. That we've all been sailing in full
of holes with shoddy captains who long ago abandoned ship.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And it's funny how Rooan was staying there is we're
not even going to look like getting out of this
until the twenty thirties. You realize that, and less than
a couple of weeks time, that's only five years away.
How crazy is that? There's a time amazing it just
(07:27):
keeps going city. So yeah, as we really go whizzing
down the slope into the final few last gasps of
twenty twenty four, Matt and Tyler have been wondering who
are the Great New Zealanders of Christmas. I think that's
what they're calling it. As we said, Nadia Learn it
(07:49):
is one of them. I mean, she's just so cool,
isn't she?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Or the second of our Great New Zealanders of Christmas series?
So yeah, problem, So let's get stuck in. How how
has the farm gone this year? What were the big challenges?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Everything? Such a hard game, honestly, not for the faint hearted. Carloson,
I feel like this is the hardest, trickiest, biggest challenge
that we've ever taken on. And we've done a lot
of different things in our careers, but it's just really
really hard to make it make financial sense farming is
(08:29):
I mean, you hear it that you've got to do
it for the love of it and for the lifestyle,
they say, but there say it is kind of true,
like you wouldn't do it unless you really really loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
But she's kind of a reality TV spin off series,
isn't she? Now? The alum from Chef to Cowboy or
whatever it is. It's but like all the spinoff series
from Yellowstone. Watched the final episode of Yellowstone last night.
(09:06):
She's a bit of a psycho, but she's really big.
I'm the lead character there. I don't want to give
you any spoilers. I don't want to say whether she
survived or didn't survive, made it through. If she's going
to go on and have her own spinoff series, it's
(09:26):
probably difficult to do her. She died in the final episode,
I guess. But what's that talking about? Oh yeah, Taylor Sheridan.
What the guy who writes the Yellowstone and eighteen eighty
three and nineteen twenty three and the forthcoming sixty six
(09:49):
sixty six show about the Texas Ranch And it's going
to be one called the Madison, which is something to
do with and you know we've got land Man with
Billy Bobsordon in it, and don't forget the great series Lioness.
He wrote as well, I'm not sure how I got
into this. I haven't even mentioned told it big Tali
(10:09):
sheurdan fan. I don't know that he's written any of
the stuff that Nadia Lim's been in it'd be great
though crossover Nadia lim meets Taylor Sheridan. Is it? Is
it Christmas Eve yet?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It be right. Let's finish up here, and I know
many of you'll be thinking, I thank god, We're coming
to the end. With a soft serve ice cream.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Judy see a Marcus have It emails about New Zealand's
first soft serve ice cream machines. Last up we had
a very good show people talk about soft serve ice
cream in New Zealand and the first soft serve machine
that was at Codylan's dairy up there in TITEBANGI well,
someone else has got in touch with me today. They
had the first soft the first soft serve right, the
(11:03):
first soft serve ice cream machine in the mid seventies.
It was a tailor freeze machine for the restaurant Cafe
ice Cream Parlor at Hamilton Lake Bracket seven Days, licensed
to print money and they said they spent a lot
of time cleaning it. The downside was the cleaning of
(11:27):
this machine. Ron with an engineering background, would take hours
into the evening of particular care sterilization with a testing regime.
As always conscious of customer safety, he was asked by
that milk company to promote this new product in Singapore,
which went well despite the hot condition.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So yeah, it's always been a complicated business. The soft
served machine obviously, because as we all know, they're never working.
I was walking past a McDonald's yesterday evening and I
saw a shine in the window advertising that they now
(12:07):
have chocolate soft served, by which I assume that meant
that they have a chocolate soft served machine that is
also broken, just like the normal soft served machine and
the milkshack machine, which I think we all know is
basically the same machine, isn't it. I mean a McDonald's
milkshake is basically just soft served with a straw, isn't it,
(12:29):
Which is what I like about them. I think it's
one of the best things that you can order at McDonald's.
You can order it, doesn't mean you're going to get
it though, because, like I say, usually broken most machines.
It's fraud printers computer printers I'm talking about, and soft
(12:50):
served slash milkshack machines. There are two things that we've
never really mastered, aren't they. You know, we can send
people to Mars with a spaceship powered by a smartphone
or something, and yet we can't persistently provide Diffinitely, I
(13:12):
looks off sid even know McDonald's claims that they can.
I don't think the robot the pothworps is happening anytime soon.
Based on that, has this been the most random news
talks they had been of the year so far? And
it's mostly to do with the things I've said, not
the things that the host have said. Maybe see if
(13:35):
I can really out the random rate tomorrow on the
penultimate one, then.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
News Talk has Talking Said Been. For more from News
Talk Said B listen live on air or online, and
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