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FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Fixing Maths/Is Power Too Expensive Or Not?/It's Official; These Bins Are Stupid/Meat That's Not Meat/Performative Toothbrushing
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Power prices too high, everybody thinks,
but are they food waste bins? The little green bins
(00:44):
causing a bit of a ruckus plant based meat. Haven't
talked about plant based meat, meat that's not meat for
a while, so we will. And Marcus wants a word
about performative toothbrushing or teeth crushing, the teeth crushing or toothbrushing.
But before any of that, the government's going to fix maths. Hooray.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm sure there's a shopping list a mile long that
any teacher or principle has when it comes to doing
the best for the kids that turn up in their classroom.
Too often, your ordinary everyday children, who are the children
of ordinary everyday parents, who are working, who are doing
their best to coaching sport after school, who are paying
(01:28):
their taxes, who have never committed any crime, wouldn't know
where their nearest welfare office was too often those kids
are getting left behind and forgotten. They deserve the best.
They deserve to be supported and encouraged and just see
how far they can go. Not have all the money
(01:52):
spent on trying to deal with incredibly complex and difficult
situations with families and children. How about a little support
for these kids whose parents are doing the best buy them,
whose teachers are trying to do the best by them,
(02:12):
but they're getting dragged in so many different directions and situations.
I'm all for this. This is fantastic. Have the base
check know which children are going to need the extra support,
target it to them, and hopefully, hopefully in a few
years we won't have children leaving primary school who are
illiterate and enumerate, because that has been a crying shame
(02:35):
for the past two decades and that is only going
to benefit New Zealand to have a better educated populist.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Can I just say that I don't think I've ever
heard the word in numerate before. I mean, if I have,
I haven't noticed. I'm fifty one years old, which you've got,
and that doesn't make me enumerate, it just makes me illiterate. Ironically,
news talk ze been now, so we've got some power
(03:06):
retailers which apparently had different from Gen tailors. This is
another word that really has only come into the public
consciousness in the last detailers, isn't it anyway? Forget about
the Gen Taylor's. We've got power retailers going out of business.
Does that mean the power prices aren't high?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Enoup and that means least choice for us and we
know what that typically does to prices. And unlike Air
New Zealand and the regional airfares debate in the past week,
there is in this situation a quick fix for the problem,
at least a partial one.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
And guess what. The government announced such a fix too
much fanfare in February. They said that the big Gen
tailors would no longer be allowed to offer sweetheart deals
to their own lot. Transparency about these deals will be
forced upon them. We had the Minister on at the time. Now,
the Generator part has been favoring the Taylor part, but
(04:04):
not the other smaller players, so they were going to
do something about it. The odds are basically stacked.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Against Flick and the little guys and out Flix the lights.
So we've known about this on fairness since at least
twenty twenty one for Flick, and we've had belatedly an
announcement that something might change, but years later, no real change,
and another retailer bites the dust. Forty thousand customers off
to you guessed at Meridian, one of the big gent tailors.
(04:32):
Losing Flick if true is another sign that winter is coming,
and I can't see anybody in much of a hurry
to do much of anything about it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't understand why people don't do what I do
and get the deal where it fixes your price for
the whole year. I'm with Genesis. I'm not advertising for
I'm just saying, and every year they go, oh, if
(05:01):
you sign up for another year, you can fix the
price at our price for another year. Because I feel
like I don't really have anything to complain about. There's
my price isn't going anywhere us.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Talk said, Bean, now, do you.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Have strong feelings about those stupid little food waste bins.
My feeling is I just ignore them completely.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
They come around with their trucks and they collect them
every week, and then they dump them all into another
truck and then those trucks drive them down to Eporda,
which is down by Rotua, and they dun't that carbon
miles galore and then they dump it in a little
dumping place there, and that whole process to take your
food scraps to roade vegas costs fourteen hundred dollars per
carbon ton that is kept out of the atmosphere. Instead
(05:45):
of doing this, what they could, of course do is
they could just take it down to the landfill and
dump it where it will break down, because it's food,
that's what food does. And then to solve their conscience,
they could go to the carbon auction. They could buy
themselves a carbon unit for fifty dollars, or if they
really want to, they could plant some trees to offset
the carbon at one hundred and twenty dollars per ton.
(06:06):
But instead what they've decided to do is not spend fifty,
not spend one hundred and twenty, but spend fourteen hundred dollars. Now,
I could give Auckland Council a little bit of leeway
if the price difference was marginal, like maybe if it
was fifty dollars versus sixty dollars, but fifty dollars versus
fourteen hundred dollars is inexcusable. And by the way, this
will never be anywhere close to fifty bucks because even
(06:27):
if every single household and auction actually use these bins,
which we don't, only about a third of us do.
If every single household it, the cost of that carbon
ton would still be about five hundred dollars compared to
fifty dollars. Now, I can't understand why they're persevering with
the scheme, but I suspect it's because they think this
is the right thing to do, and they've got caught
up thinking that they personally at Auckland Council have to
(06:48):
save the planet truck by truck. But they need to
dump this. I mean they have permission to because Labor
you will recall, made these bins mandatory, but the Coalition
government has scrapped them. So persevering with these bins is
just stupid ideology. And though they will say to you
it's only two dollars per household per week, two dollars
per household per week adds up and that's thirty six
million dollars a year across all Clint City. That's a
(07:11):
lot of money that would buy a lot of books
or a lot of street bins or a lot of
anything else that the kind that the money that the
city should actually be spending its money on.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They need to dump this. You didn't even pause for
applause at that point. I'm kind of annoyed. I thought
I was just being a billiger and grumpy old man
by not using the food waste bins. That turns out
there's actually a really good logical reason not to use them.
(07:40):
God damn, I hate it. With their heavens and more
virtual signaling news or discussions. Anyway, they were talking about
plant based meat yesterday afternoon. It's not really meat, then,
is it.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I know that upset sets people when we are calling
up plant based meats, but that is what a lot
of these brands called them to try and get in
on the market of meat eaters. But this is on
the back of being supreme. It is the latest plant
based protein brand to exit. The production is currently been
scaled back in the products will not be available past July.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Jerry says, why does it need a fake meat name?
Why not just call it a vegetarian steak. It seems
to be all tied up with this woke liberalism. When
did a betroot, eggplant, burger, paddy need to be called
anything but what it is. The problem isn't with the product.
The problem is with the marketing. That's the whole thing.
Why it's like stolen valor. You're saying that this is
(08:35):
you're using the good name of a product, but you're
not selling that. You know, you're selling this Frankensteinian monster
that's imitating the thing but using its name.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
So you've upset everybody. You've upset the meat eating people
because it's not meat. You've upset the vegetarians because you're
calling it meat.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
If you're a vegetarian and you want to eat a
fake sausage or a fake paddy, whatever, go for your life,
but don't pretend it's anything different. As I said before,
I make a lental roast, I called it a lental roast.
I don't call it a meat roast.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Man, They rarely got into the weeds on that one,
didn't they. I made a chili last night with lentils
and some other vegetables. Am I still allowed to call
it a chili? You know?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Chili?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Cong khn's what's the literal translation of that? I suppose
I could google it and find out. I hope it
doesn't mean beans and meat, because that's not what I
made last night. And I don't want anybody, especially the
afternoon show, it's getting upset with me.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
News talk it bean right, so.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We it's sort of turned to the Pit Peace podcast,
isn't it. People wondering about stupid food bends that actually
cost more than their worth to fill up with waste,
people calling meat that doesn't meat meat, and now Marcus
has got a problem with brushing your teeth.
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Basically, what they do is they eat as many osten
noodle as they can to give their energy to open
and shut those sliding doors as many times as they can.
The way everyone goes to bed, then up and down
they get to about three in the morning, opening and shunning.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
It's not good.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Then buying and selling each other's vans. But there's a
place in Lumsden, Glumsden they call it. They've got kind
of a central precinct, I think where the railway station
used to be and they've made that a freedom camping spot.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Why.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
I've got no idea, but every time I go there
or drive passes a playground there, so we stop there
quite often. If you're going well bluff Queen's Tout's halfway.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
It's got, you know.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
The kids like it, and there's always about thirty or
forty people living in station wagons or vans. But every
time they're here, they they're all just during this performative toothbrushing,
wandering around, making a song and dance about brushing the
teeth like most of the day, it's all they seem
to be doing, wandering around with foam.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I can't work it out.
Speaker 9 (11:14):
They are just such overt teeth brushes. It's weird, like
it's some sort of courting ritual. Anyway, Lumsdon will come
to their centers and tire of them before too long,
I would think, well, it doesn't seem like a really
nice place for a holiday.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
There's no few wow a little drive by there. Lumston
Marcus really hates freedom campers. I think he's made that
pretty clear. But now that he's brought it up, I
know exactly what he means about the toothbrushing. I think
it's because they sort of have to go out to
a tap and with their toothbrush wandering around. I don't
(11:59):
know what's worse. Freedom Campers performative toothbrushing or Freedom campers
with bad breath and tooth decake. Tricky run, isn't it?
And yeah, it turns out that chili con can does
literally mean chili with me, so I can't call whatever
it was that I made last night chili con can.
(12:19):
I think I can call it just chili, though, I'll
do I'll do some more research because that's the kind
of thing that I want to spend my time on. Today.
I thank you for spending a bit of your time
with me, and I hope you do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
See you then, used Talk is Talking zaid Bean. For
more from news Talk said b. Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said Bee.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Power prices too high, everybody thinks,
but are they food waste bins? The little green bins
(00:44):
causing a bit of a ruckus plant based meat. Haven't
talked about plant based meat, meat that's not meat for
a while, so we will. And Marcus wants a word
about performative toothbrushing or teeth crushing, the teeth crushing or toothbrushing.
But before any of that, the government's going to fix maths. Hooray.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm sure there's a shopping list a mile long that
any teacher or principle has when it comes to doing
the best for the kids that turn up in their classroom.
Too often, your ordinary everyday children, who are the children
of ordinary everyday parents, who are working, who are doing
their best to coaching sport after school, who are paying
(01:28):
their taxes, who have never committed any crime, wouldn't know
where their nearest welfare office was too often those kids
are getting left behind and forgotten. They deserve the best.
They deserve to be supported and encouraged and just see
how far they can go. Not have all the money
(01:52):
spent on trying to deal with incredibly complex and difficult
situations with families and children. How about a little support
for these kids whose parents are doing the best buy them,
whose teachers are trying to do the best by them,
(02:12):
but they're getting dragged in so many different directions and situations.
I'm all for this. This is fantastic. Have the base
check know which children are going to need the extra support,
target it to them, and hopefully, hopefully in a few
years we won't have children leaving primary school who are
illiterate and enumerate, because that has been a crying shame
(02:35):
for the past two decades and that is only going
to benefit New Zealand to have a better educated populist.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Can I just say that I don't think I've ever
heard the word in numerate before. I mean, if I have,
I haven't noticed. I'm fifty one years old, which you've got,
and that doesn't make me enumerate, it just makes me illiterate. Ironically,
news talk ze been now, so we've got some power
(03:06):
retailers which apparently had different from Gen tailors. This is
another word that really has only come into the public
consciousness in the last detailers, isn't it anyway? Forget about
the Gen Taylor's. We've got power retailers going out of business.
Does that mean the power prices aren't high?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Enoup and that means least choice for us and we
know what that typically does to prices. And unlike Air
New Zealand and the regional airfares debate in the past week,
there is in this situation a quick fix for the problem,
at least a partial one.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
And guess what. The government announced such a fix too
much fanfare in February. They said that the big Gen
tailors would no longer be allowed to offer sweetheart deals
to their own lot. Transparency about these deals will be
forced upon them. We had the Minister on at the time. Now,
the Generator part has been favoring the Taylor part, but
(04:04):
not the other smaller players, so they were going to
do something about it. The odds are basically stacked.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Against Flick and the little guys and out Flix the lights.
So we've known about this on fairness since at least
twenty twenty one for Flick, and we've had belatedly an
announcement that something might change, but years later, no real change,
and another retailer bites the dust. Forty thousand customers off
to you guessed at Meridian, one of the big gent tailors.
(04:32):
Losing Flick if true is another sign that winter is coming,
and I can't see anybody in much of a hurry
to do much of anything about it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't understand why people don't do what I do
and get the deal where it fixes your price for
the whole year. I'm with Genesis. I'm not advertising for
I'm just saying, and every year they go, oh, if
(05:01):
you sign up for another year, you can fix the
price at our price for another year. Because I feel
like I don't really have anything to complain about. There's
my price isn't going anywhere us.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Talk said, Bean, now, do you.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Have strong feelings about those stupid little food waste bins.
My feeling is I just ignore them completely.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
They come around with their trucks and they collect them
every week, and then they dump them all into another
truck and then those trucks drive them down to Eporda,
which is down by Rotua, and they dun't that carbon
miles galore and then they dump it in a little
dumping place there, and that whole process to take your
food scraps to roade vegas costs fourteen hundred dollars per
carbon ton that is kept out of the atmosphere. Instead
(05:45):
of doing this, what they could, of course do is
they could just take it down to the landfill and
dump it where it will break down, because it's food,
that's what food does. And then to solve their conscience,
they could go to the carbon auction. They could buy
themselves a carbon unit for fifty dollars, or if they
really want to, they could plant some trees to offset
the carbon at one hundred and twenty dollars per ton.
(06:06):
But instead what they've decided to do is not spend fifty,
not spend one hundred and twenty, but spend fourteen hundred dollars. Now,
I could give Auckland Council a little bit of leeway
if the price difference was marginal, like maybe if it
was fifty dollars versus sixty dollars, but fifty dollars versus
fourteen hundred dollars is inexcusable. And by the way, this
will never be anywhere close to fifty bucks because even
(06:27):
if every single household and auction actually use these bins,
which we don't, only about a third of us do.
If every single household it, the cost of that carbon
ton would still be about five hundred dollars compared to
fifty dollars. Now, I can't understand why they're persevering with
the scheme, but I suspect it's because they think this
is the right thing to do, and they've got caught
up thinking that they personally at Auckland Council have to
(06:48):
save the planet truck by truck. But they need to
dump this. I mean they have permission to because Labor
you will recall, made these bins mandatory, but the Coalition
government has scrapped them. So persevering with these bins is
just stupid ideology. And though they will say to you
it's only two dollars per household per week, two dollars
per household per week adds up and that's thirty six
million dollars a year across all Clint City. That's a
(07:11):
lot of money that would buy a lot of books
or a lot of street bins or a lot of
anything else that the kind that the money that the
city should actually be spending its money on.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They need to dump this. You didn't even pause for
applause at that point. I'm kind of annoyed. I thought
I was just being a billiger and grumpy old man
by not using the food waste bins. That turns out
there's actually a really good logical reason not to use them.
(07:40):
God damn, I hate it. With their heavens and more
virtual signaling news or discussions. Anyway, they were talking about
plant based meat yesterday afternoon. It's not really meat, then,
is it.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I know that upset sets people when we are calling
up plant based meats, but that is what a lot
of these brands called them to try and get in
on the market of meat eaters. But this is on
the back of being supreme. It is the latest plant
based protein brand to exit. The production is currently been
scaled back in the products will not be available past July.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
Jerry says, why does it need a fake meat name?
Why not just call it a vegetarian steak. It seems
to be all tied up with this woke liberalism. When
did a betroot, eggplant, burger, paddy need to be called
anything but what it is. The problem isn't with the product.
The problem is with the marketing. That's the whole thing.
Why it's like stolen valor. You're saying that this is
(08:35):
you're using the good name of a product, but you're
not selling that. You know, you're selling this Frankensteinian monster
that's imitating the thing but using its name.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
So you've upset everybody. You've upset the meat eating people
because it's not meat. You've upset the vegetarians because you're
calling it meat.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, nobody.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
If you're a vegetarian and you want to eat a
fake sausage or a fake paddy, whatever, go for your life,
but don't pretend it's anything different. As I said before,
I make a lental roast, I called it a lental roast.
I don't call it a meat roast.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Man, They rarely got into the weeds on that one,
didn't they. I made a chili last night with lentils
and some other vegetables. Am I still allowed to call
it a chili? You know?
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Chili?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Cong khn's what's the literal translation of that? I suppose
I could google it and find out. I hope it
doesn't mean beans and meat, because that's not what I
made last night. And I don't want anybody, especially the
afternoon show, it's getting upset with me.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
News talk it bean right, so.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We it's sort of turned to the Pit Peace podcast,
isn't it. People wondering about stupid food bends that actually
cost more than their worth to fill up with waste,
people calling meat that doesn't meat meat, and now Marcus
has got a problem with brushing your teeth.
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Basically, what they do is they eat as many osten
noodle as they can to give their energy to open
and shut those sliding doors as many times as they can.
The way everyone goes to bed, then up and down
they get to about three in the morning, opening and shunning.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
It's not good.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Then buying and selling each other's vans. But there's a
place in Lumsden, Glumsden they call it. They've got kind
of a central precinct, I think where the railway station
used to be and they've made that a freedom camping spot.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Why.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
I've got no idea, but every time I go there
or drive passes a playground there, so we stop there
quite often. If you're going well bluff Queen's Tout's halfway.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
It's got, you know.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
The kids like it, and there's always about thirty or
forty people living in station wagons or vans. But every
time they're here, they they're all just during this performative toothbrushing,
wandering around, making a song and dance about brushing the
teeth like most of the day, it's all they seem
to be doing, wandering around with foam.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
I can't work it out.
Speaker 9 (11:14):
They are just such overt teeth brushes. It's weird, like
it's some sort of courting ritual. Anyway, Lumsdon will come
to their centers and tire of them before too long,
I would think, well, it doesn't seem like a really
nice place for a holiday.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
There's no few wow a little drive by there. Lumston
Marcus really hates freedom campers. I think he's made that
pretty clear. But now that he's brought it up, I
know exactly what he means about the toothbrushing. I think
it's because they sort of have to go out to
a tap and with their toothbrush wandering around. I don't
(11:59):
know what's worse. Freedom Campers performative toothbrushing or Freedom campers
with bad breath and tooth decake. Tricky run, isn't it?
And yeah, it turns out that chili con can does
literally mean chili with me, so I can't call whatever
it was that I made last night chili con can.
(12:19):
I think I can call it just chili, though, I'll
do I'll do some more research because that's the kind
of thing that I want to spend my time on. Today.
I thank you for spending a bit of your time
with me, and I hope you do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
See you then, used Talk is Talking zaid Bean. For
more from news Talk said b. Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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