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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen harton we are
looking back at Thursday, Rod Duke. It seems to have
thrown the cat among the pigeons by talking about getting
our arsen to gear. So will we Local body elections
(00:46):
are a face? How do we fix them? But first out, Yes,
this investment summit exciting stuff? Ah or is it?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You spoke about the tension and the volatility in the world,
the global strife, as he put it. He says, that's
what makes us appealing. Where are we safe haven? A
we bolt hole at the bottom of the earth. Come
take shelter from the global storm, said Luxon. In the room,
the investors themselves were apparently quite impressed. We are told
the Overseas Investment Act changes. They like those. The fast
(01:21):
Track Bill is a big hit. As you can imagine.
Any hint of delays and hold ups in some pesky
planning laws from a Pacific island at the bottom of
the world is not exactly sexy to these guys. They're
asking questions about the pipeline of work, not just the PPPs,
the couple that the government's got on the chopping block now,
(01:41):
but the ones after that and for decades ahead, because
who wants to set up shop, bring in all the laborers,
bring in all the machinery, get the ball rolling, and
then run out of work nobody, Which is why you
don't want the next government, whoever that might be, coming
in and raiding the deregulation goodie bag that this lot
have just been handed out at the summit.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
On that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Barbara Edmund speaks tomorrow from Labour, So watch this space
on the whole. Though so far so good, could say
so far so boring, but that may not necessarily be
a bad thing. Steady, predictable, easy going. They good qualities
and a foreign investment partner. If you're looking though here
for quick wins, big announcements from the summit, it's clear
(02:22):
that you've come to the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Is lux is seriously suggesting that we're immune to international
What are they are? Headwinds? That's right, headwinds, remember the headwinds.
That's quite right.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Anyway, News talk z Bean.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think some business people. Local business people are starting
to lose their patients, people like the head of Brisco's.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
So do you know, it's not part of the job
description for the managing director to pass comment on the
government of the day, but he did and he turned
up on Ryan Bridges' show. But it is symptomatic of
today's climate because we are desperate. We are sick of
the doldrums. We want our captain to lean our way
out of the s So rod as a corporate leader
and a leader in society, said the government needs to
(03:13):
get its us into gear and do something. He said,
it's been a year since the last lot, so there's
been more than enough time to get proactive. But then
when he was asked, well what should they do, he said, well,
that's not my business. I just want them to get
their ars into gear. And that's kind of the New
Zealand problem right there, because we're really good at identifying problems,
but we're not good at finding the solutions, so we
(03:34):
moan about them all the time. Now, interestingly, yesterday we
had the IMF come out and they said that New
Zealand needs to lower its corporate tax because we were
becoming uncompetitive. But they also said we need a capital
gains tax because the country needs to balance its budget
and we don't have enough revenue. So they were saying
we need to spend, and we also need to raise
(03:55):
the revenue to spend. So the IMF have come up
with an answer as the current government reducing corporate tax,
not so far. Meanwhile, as the Labor Party championing a
capital gains tax, well no, not so far either. Is
there any alph A party that's offering both, No, not
so far. So where are the solutions? But thank you
(04:18):
so much Rod Duke for telling us the problems.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes, it is easy to throw stones, poke holes, be critical.
It is, and incertainly, as Christopher Luxe has found out,
it is less easy to implement change. And I think
this quickly became a theme on John McDonald's morning show
(04:44):
yesterday as well. He's been standing in for Kerry the
last couple of days. He's been standing in for himself
and Grass Suctuary normally is but other places where Kerry goes,
that's where he's been, which is why I've been putting
him in the podcast.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
So if Christopher Luxon said to me, all right, don't
come to me with problems, come to me with solutions.
And here's what I would tell him. I tell them
to decide what his government is actually going to focus
on and stick with it. If it's the economy, like
Briscoe's guy Rod Duke obviously thinks it should be, then
make that your priority between now and the election, and
(05:23):
be honest about it. This laser like focus that the
Prime Minister likes to talk about all the time, it
can't be laserlike in all directions, and so I'd tell
the PM to be upfront with us and say that
if we want better health services and better education facilities
and everything else that governments get lost in, as this
government has, I would tell the PM to be courageous
(05:46):
and tell us that we're going to have to wait
for all of those other things because for now, it's
the economy and only the economy that we're going to
worry about.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That might sound simplistic, I might sound like those opposition
politicians I talked about before, and it probably is simplistic. Well,
hold on, it definitely is simplistic. But unless the government
ditches this idea that's going to fix everything asap, then
it's going to fail in all of them. And the
signs are there, and people like Rod Duke won't just
(06:18):
be telling the government to get its aim to gear.
He'll be telling it to get its a out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Odd coverage around this A lot of nobody seems to
want to say ass. I mean Andrew Dickens said ours.
John McDonald says A are we not? Come on, guys?
I think we can say ass, can't we? It kind
of loses the effect if you don't actually say ass.
(06:45):
Perhaps you should have just said bat. We've been more
comfortable saying bats. Now it's a local body election time
or nearly as this year. Anyway, you can decide if
you want your mirror again. Obviously nobody nobody cares who
(07:06):
the counselors are. We worry about that too much.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Do we?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But we probably should because guess what, the people who
want to be on a council end up on a
council otherwise, and those aren't the sort of people that
you should really have on a council.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Probably. How do we get more people down to vote
in local body elections? A suggestion from local Government New
Zealand that we get rid of postal voting and just
have voting booths. Likely we do for the general election
would help with voter turnouts.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Yeah, and local government New Zealand Electoral Reform A group
chair and Nelson mayor Nick Smith says participat as participation
rates less than half of eligible voters, this is an
existential risk to local government reformers needed now to strengthen
the democratic mandate. Local government has to represent communities across
New Zealand, so when it gets less than half of
(07:55):
people voting, then you don't really have a mandate, which
this text addresses that. And I quite like this idea
on nine two ninety two. Hey, lads, have a set minimum,
say sixty percent voters. If this is not met, the
central government installs a commissioner with appropriate sidekicks.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Wow, I mean that would get me to vote?
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Yeah, because because the central government does have a mandate, right,
an't working? Yeah, So if you're not getting up to
that level, then you have not the council has not
been effectively voted for, and you risk a bunch of
muppets getting in there. Then then the government just you know,
stills a commissioner.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So basically saying you've got democracy at the moment, but
if you don't go down and do your democratic rite
and vote. We're going to take your democracy away.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Well, you know, in the past they've kept people in
Auckland locked in their houses until a certain arbitrary number
is met. That was never going to happen, yep, exactly,
So there's some precedent out there.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Absolutely, I would have to say that the postal vote
thing probably is in the future, given that I'm pretty
sure the post office isn't delivering mail anymore, or that's
what they're trying to wind that down, which might.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Be a bit of a problem for sending your votes in.
Surely isn't the internet the answer should make it easy? Guys.
You know it's like those forms that you get you after.
You know, we did a vet the other day with
the dog, the edit thing, and then like before i'd
(09:29):
almost got home, I'd received can you please complete THESS survey?
You know we can do that. We can do a
vote online, can't we? How hard is it?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
News talk? Has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Seems to me making people vote in person is making
it harder, not easier. What is tim beverage thing?
Speaker 9 (09:49):
The opposite argument of this is to go online? Or
is there just something about local body politics that is
just one giant snooze fest and you couldn't be they
couldn't pay it a vote. So what do you think?
I think that there is something in this about having
voting a voting booth system, returning that because I think
(10:09):
the postal vote thing, and of course it's not like
post offices are abounding, is that we've had postal voting,
and of course postal boxes seem to be less common,
few and far between if you generally probably have to
just go drive somewhere to post your votes. So why
not just go to a voting booth? Why not have
a visible sort of thing where there's an energy that
(10:31):
appears around the country. It's like, guess what we are
voting for? Your counsel and your mayors and your health
boards and all that sort of stuff. Is there something
about having to turn up to a voting booth and
doing your bit? Because I'm not sure if it's an
old school thing either. I just think that it's something
that creates a focal point for it. You see people
(10:52):
out and about, you see the voting booths, and you
get into it as opposed to oh, the voting papers
been sitting on the kitchen bench for the last three months.
I didn't do anything. No, I can't be bothered.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's primarily about sausage sizzles. That seems to be a
big thing in Australia. Voting is compulsory. I don't know
if it is for local body elections, but I certainly
is for the federal election. But you get a sausage.
I think I'm not sure how that is these days.
Of course people are gluten free or vegan. They you're
(11:25):
gonna have to have those options as well. Otherwise it's
not very democratic as it. Those people won't want to vote.
So anyway, I think if you can entice them just
for the smell of oursasages or sometimes, and they'd make
people deviate from their normal course. Figure out what's going
on over there? My mouse ordering now, so it's time
to go. Let's being used to a zaid beam. Are
(11:48):
we back with more on Monday? With a weekend a different.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Serisings News talk is normal.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Zid bem for more from news Talk, said b. Listen
live on air or online and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iart Radio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said b
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio used Talk said talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen harton we are
looking back at Thursday, Rod Duke. It seems to have
thrown the cat among the pigeons by talking about getting
our arsen to gear. So will we Local body elections
(00:46):
are a face? How do we fix them? But first out, Yes,
this investment summit exciting stuff? Ah or is it?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You spoke about the tension and the volatility in the world,
the global strife, as he put it. He says, that's
what makes us appealing. Where are we safe haven? A
we bolt hole at the bottom of the earth. Come
take shelter from the global storm, said Luxon. In the room,
the investors themselves were apparently quite impressed. We are told
the Overseas Investment Act changes. They like those. The fast
(01:21):
Track Bill is a big hit. As you can imagine.
Any hint of delays and hold ups in some pesky
planning laws from a Pacific island at the bottom of
the world is not exactly sexy to these guys. They're
asking questions about the pipeline of work, not just the PPPs,
the couple that the government's got on the chopping block now,
(01:41):
but the ones after that and for decades ahead, because
who wants to set up shop, bring in all the laborers,
bring in all the machinery, get the ball rolling, and
then run out of work nobody, Which is why you
don't want the next government, whoever that might be, coming
in and raiding the deregulation goodie bag that this lot
have just been handed out at the summit.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
On that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Barbara Edmund speaks tomorrow from Labour, So watch this space
on the whole. Though so far so good, could say
so far so boring, but that may not necessarily be
a bad thing. Steady, predictable, easy going. They good qualities
and a foreign investment partner. If you're looking though here
for quick wins, big announcements from the summit, it's clear
(02:22):
that you've come to the wrong place.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Is lux is seriously suggesting that we're immune to international
What are they are? Headwinds? That's right, headwinds, remember the headwinds.
That's quite right.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Anyway, News talk z Bean.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I think some business people. Local business people are starting
to lose their patients, people like the head of Brisco's.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
So do you know, it's not part of the job
description for the managing director to pass comment on the
government of the day, but he did and he turned
up on Ryan Bridges' show. But it is symptomatic of
today's climate because we are desperate. We are sick of
the doldrums. We want our captain to lean our way
out of the s So rod as a corporate leader
and a leader in society, said the government needs to
(03:13):
get its us into gear and do something. He said,
it's been a year since the last lot, so there's
been more than enough time to get proactive. But then
when he was asked, well what should they do, he said, well,
that's not my business. I just want them to get
their ars into gear. And that's kind of the New
Zealand problem right there, because we're really good at identifying problems,
but we're not good at finding the solutions, so we
(03:34):
moan about them all the time. Now, interestingly, yesterday we
had the IMF come out and they said that New
Zealand needs to lower its corporate tax because we were
becoming uncompetitive. But they also said we need a capital
gains tax because the country needs to balance its budget
and we don't have enough revenue. So they were saying
we need to spend, and we also need to raise
(03:55):
the revenue to spend. So the IMF have come up
with an answer as the current government reducing corporate tax,
not so far. Meanwhile, as the Labor Party championing a
capital gains tax, well no, not so far either. Is
there any alph A party that's offering both, No, not
so far. So where are the solutions? But thank you
(04:18):
so much Rod Duke for telling us the problems.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes, it is easy to throw stones, poke holes, be critical.
It is, and incertainly, as Christopher Luxe has found out,
it is less easy to implement change. And I think
this quickly became a theme on John McDonald's morning show
(04:44):
yesterday as well. He's been standing in for Kerry the
last couple of days. He's been standing in for himself
and Grass Suctuary normally is but other places where Kerry goes,
that's where he's been, which is why I've been putting
him in the podcast.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
So if Christopher Luxon said to me, all right, don't
come to me with problems, come to me with solutions.
And here's what I would tell him. I tell them
to decide what his government is actually going to focus
on and stick with it. If it's the economy, like
Briscoe's guy Rod Duke obviously thinks it should be, then
make that your priority between now and the election, and
(05:23):
be honest about it. This laser like focus that the
Prime Minister likes to talk about all the time, it
can't be laserlike in all directions, and so I'd tell
the PM to be upfront with us and say that
if we want better health services and better education facilities
and everything else that governments get lost in, as this
government has, I would tell the PM to be courageous
(05:46):
and tell us that we're going to have to wait
for all of those other things because for now, it's
the economy and only the economy that we're going to
worry about.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
That might sound simplistic, I might sound like those opposition
politicians I talked about before, and it probably is simplistic. Well,
hold on, it definitely is simplistic. But unless the government
ditches this idea that's going to fix everything asap, then
it's going to fail in all of them. And the
signs are there, and people like Rod Duke won't just
(06:18):
be telling the government to get its aim to gear.
He'll be telling it to get its a out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Odd coverage around this A lot of nobody seems to
want to say ass. I mean Andrew Dickens said ours.
John McDonald says A are we not? Come on, guys?
I think we can say ass, can't we? It kind
of loses the effect if you don't actually say ass.
(06:45):
Perhaps you should have just said bat. We've been more
comfortable saying bats. Now it's a local body election time
or nearly as this year. Anyway, you can decide if
you want your mirror again. Obviously nobody nobody cares who
(07:06):
the counselors are. We worry about that too much.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Do we?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But we probably should because guess what, the people who
want to be on a council end up on a
council otherwise, and those aren't the sort of people that
you should really have on a council.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Probably. How do we get more people down to vote
in local body elections? A suggestion from local Government New
Zealand that we get rid of postal voting and just
have voting booths. Likely we do for the general election
would help with voter turnouts.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Yeah, and local government New Zealand Electoral Reform A group
chair and Nelson mayor Nick Smith says participat as participation
rates less than half of eligible voters, this is an
existential risk to local government reformers needed now to strengthen
the democratic mandate. Local government has to represent communities across
New Zealand, so when it gets less than half of
(07:55):
people voting, then you don't really have a mandate, which
this text addresses that. And I quite like this idea
on nine two ninety two. Hey, lads, have a set minimum,
say sixty percent voters. If this is not met, the
central government installs a commissioner with appropriate sidekicks.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Wow, I mean that would get me to vote?
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Yeah, because because the central government does have a mandate, right,
an't working? Yeah, So if you're not getting up to
that level, then you have not the council has not
been effectively voted for, and you risk a bunch of
muppets getting in there. Then then the government just you know,
stills a commissioner.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
So basically saying you've got democracy at the moment, but
if you don't go down and do your democratic rite
and vote. We're going to take your democracy away.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
Well, you know, in the past they've kept people in
Auckland locked in their houses until a certain arbitrary number
is met. That was never going to happen, yep, exactly,
So there's some precedent out there.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Absolutely, I would have to say that the postal vote
thing probably is in the future, given that I'm pretty
sure the post office isn't delivering mail anymore, or that's
what they're trying to wind that down, which might.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Be a bit of a problem for sending your votes in.
Surely isn't the internet the answer should make it easy? Guys.
You know it's like those forms that you get you after.
You know, we did a vet the other day with
the dog, the edit thing, and then like before i'd
(09:29):
almost got home, I'd received can you please complete THESS survey?
You know we can do that. We can do a
vote online, can't we? How hard is it?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
News talk? Has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Seems to me making people vote in person is making
it harder, not easier. What is tim beverage thing?
Speaker 9 (09:49):
The opposite argument of this is to go online? Or
is there just something about local body politics that is
just one giant snooze fest and you couldn't be they
couldn't pay it a vote. So what do you think?
I think that there is something in this about having
voting a voting booth system, returning that because I think
(10:09):
the postal vote thing, and of course it's not like
post offices are abounding, is that we've had postal voting,
and of course postal boxes seem to be less common,
few and far between if you generally probably have to
just go drive somewhere to post your votes. So why
not just go to a voting booth? Why not have
a visible sort of thing where there's an energy that
(10:31):
appears around the country. It's like, guess what we are
voting for? Your counsel and your mayors and your health
boards and all that sort of stuff. Is there something
about having to turn up to a voting booth and
doing your bit? Because I'm not sure if it's an
old school thing either. I just think that it's something
that creates a focal point for it. You see people
(10:52):
out and about, you see the voting booths, and you
get into it as opposed to oh, the voting papers
been sitting on the kitchen bench for the last three months.
I didn't do anything. No, I can't be bothered.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's primarily about sausage sizzles. That seems to be a
big thing in Australia. Voting is compulsory. I don't know
if it is for local body elections, but I certainly
is for the federal election. But you get a sausage.
I think I'm not sure how that is these days.
Of course people are gluten free or vegan. They you're
(11:25):
gonna have to have those options as well. Otherwise it's
not very democratic as it. Those people won't want to vote.
So anyway, I think if you can entice them just
for the smell of oursasages or sometimes, and they'd make
people deviate from their normal course. Figure out what's going
on over there? My mouse ordering now, so it's time
to go. Let's being used to a zaid beam. Are
(11:48):
we back with more on Monday? With a weekend a different.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Serisings News talk is normal.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Zid bem for more from news Talk, said b. Listen
live on air or online and keep our shows with
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