October 20, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Never Take Public Sympathy for Granted/How's that Retreat Being Managed?/Downfall of the Dodgy Prince/The Halloween Grinch
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenhart and we are
looking back at Monday, this whole managed retreat business, where
houses are likely to be flooded and where they are.
It's complicated. Andrews surely is on the way out the
former friends, I mean, Marcus thinks Halloween is on the
way out, but I think he's been thinking that for
(00:45):
a long time now before any of that teacher the
teacher mega strike. What do they want exactly?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Give me strength. I have sympathy for the medical people,
but the education sector have lost my support. Now that's
from Mark. Thank you for your text. This text says, Hi, guys,
you need to listen to your guy. Tim Beveridge's interview
the union guy Chris Apple Crombie Abercrombie yesterday between three
(01:14):
and four pm. Tim asked them about the Palestine issue
as the number one item on the agenda, and he
admitted it was on there, but he didn't say it
was the top issue. That's surely that is crazy. You're
going into negotiate for your union members and you're bringing
up something that has absolutely nothing to do with what
(01:35):
you do, and you have absolutely no sway or control
on for a start. I mean, we're in the middle
of the Pacific Ocean trying to negotiate terms for the
education sector.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's so weird.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean, it is the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I've just got a week quote here from Abercrombie, the
head of the Teachers Union. So here's the quote here.
They had suggested four items relating to as you say, Palestine,
NCA changes, AI marking, and curriculum. The last three is fine.
It's like one of those quizzers. Watch one's the odd
one out. Why are you bringing Palestine into it? What
has that got to do with teachers?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Look, I love teachers. My mum was a teacher, and
you know, I've got a lot of teachers in the family.
Great people, had a great time with teachers, but I
don't think they're being represented well by their union if
that is one of the four things on an agenda. Yeah,
boy boy, Hi guys, teacher's pay has increased by one
hundred and sixty two percent since nineteen ninety. Inflation over
(02:33):
the same period has been one hundred and seventeen percent.
Ralatively speaking, they have never had it so good. The
strike is purely political.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, so certainly as far as the wider news talks,
there be vibe goes. I think the teachers have lost
a bit of support. Actually, yeah, I think they've started
asking for things that don't seem to be directly related to,
you know, teaching, which is.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Odd news talk.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Has it been right? And now this business of to
manage retreat is that what it's called managed retreat, trying
to slowly but surely get people to not live in
places that will be underwater in the next big storm.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Don't expect a handout. That's basically the message to homeowners
who are hoping the government will swoop in and buy
out houses after the next big cyclone, as they have
been doing to this point. Watts is the Climate minister.
He took a paper to cabinet. I had to read
of it at the weekend. They haven't immediately turned the
tap off to buyouts, but they're making it pretty clear
(03:37):
it won't be long before they do. How long does
it say, specifically, just sometime in the near future. If
you're buying a house or you're buying land, you're going
to want to check flood zones very carefully. Basically, after
the Auckland floods, you know which parts of your suburb
are prone to flooding. You can see it, you saw it.
That's generally where you don't want to buy. You're going
(04:00):
to have to manage this risk. We are going to
have to manage this risk. Our insurers are going to
have to manage this risk and try and mitigate it.
The Council and the government spent billion on buyouts. This
is after the Auckland floods. That may not happen next time.
And guess how many homes are sitting in flood prone
areas right now in New Zealand. Apparently, according to the
latest data, hundreds of thousands worth one hundred and eighty
(04:22):
billion dollars combined. It means insurance will be more expensive
or non existent for some areas and some properties. The
government basically wants to take itself out of the risk equation,
one because it's cheaper for them, two because buying out
flood prone land distorts the market. If you know a
buyout is going to happen, you'll be less worried about
(04:45):
flooding and pay more than you should for the site.
The scientists tell us that damage from cyclones and floodings
is only going to get more intense and frequent, and
you should basically consider this a warning from the government.
They don't want the same thing that's happening to the
properties happening to their books.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah. I mean, it's like driving your car without a warrant.
I mean, you're probably won't get pulled over, you probably
won't get fine. But if in the worst case scenario,
if you're involved in an accident, you definitely won't be
ensured and there'll probably be charges. So uh, I guess
that's just how it goes, isn't it. Sorry to be
(05:26):
the bearer of bad tidings?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Talk?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, the troublesome Prince. Is he still a prince? He's
got his titles? Or has he not got his titles?
I don't understand any of us. We're all family business.
Can we please just get rid of it? The whole thing?
I mean?
Speaker 6 (05:43):
But honestly, I don't know that King Charles has done
enough because Andrew hasn't actually lost anything which might be
news to you, because the Palace has done an epic
spin job and trying to make it look like Andrew's
given up all of his titles. He actually hasn't. He
is still the Duke of York. He just has agreed
not to use it in public.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And I don't know about year.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
We saw how that went with Meghan and Harry, didn't
we They were also promising not to use their HRH
titles and their MEGS was busted using it in a
private to someone. So what's happening now is all the
UK newspapers are unsatisfied that calling for complete stripping of
the titles. You've got the MPs coming under pressure to
confront the royal family. Just the sheer volume of coverage
(06:21):
that this is getting at the moment over in the
UK suggests that this could go on for days. That
is not what King Charles wants because in a couple
of days he's got a meeting with the Pope and
he will not want that meeting to be overshadowed by
his playboy brother and all the revelations coming out. I
would say, watch the space, I reckon there's a better
than average chance that Andrew hasn't even got his full
punishment yet.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh it's not going to be en off with his
head scenario. It can they still do that? There's so
many things I don't understand. You still set Maybe Kerry
has her head around these things much better than I do.
A sheer royal watcher.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Or no, no wonder. William is just appalled by them.
He was probably the biggest threat to the monarchy in
recent times then since Edward the seventh, not Harry, this
thing lump and ghastly creature. Honestly, both of them. I
(07:21):
include both of them under that heading. It's I mean,
when you wonder, what on earth is the point of
the monarchy, when you look at that face and you
have to try and remember that it's not about him,
it's you know, they do a lot of good for tourism,
(07:42):
King Charles and Prince William and Catherine who are very
hard working, and Sophie and he's the exception, not the rule,
and second sons are the exception, not the rule. But
bloody hell, it took forever finally said, you know, I
used to think the Queen was just about perfect, just about,
(08:04):
but her blind spot was Andrew. She could not see
him for the deeply flawed human he is right up
to the end. Anyway, Hopefully that's the end of him.
Surely even monarchists must think he is a complete and
(08:25):
utter waste of space and through the day they gave
up on sending members of the royal family to the tower.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Isn't this just what royals have been doing for centuries
by acting super weird and thinking that they can get
away with it because they're royal. I mean, that's that's
That's part of it, isn't it. Isn't that just what
people expect of. That's why I'm not into it anyway.
(08:54):
Maybe if enough people aren't in good anymore, they will
finally get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Meanwhile, Marcus I think wants to get rid of Halloween.
He's such a Is there a what is the Grinch
of Halloween? I mean, we know what the Granches at
Christmas is. There is there a sort of a Halloween equivalent?
There should be?
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Maybe it's Marcus Halloween. It's sometime soon. And here's what
it knows about Halloween. The shops like Kmart and the
Warehouse are.
Speaker 9 (09:28):
Full of the most gosh awful tech you've seen in
your life, stuff that is either neither use nor ornament,
the most appalling stuff.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
It's tomorrow's landfill today and tomorrow's diabetes today. It's all there,
all wrapped up and won horrible without any kind of worth.
So yeah, so it devr in the shops.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
But I suspect.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
I don't know where you are with this one. I
suspect that probably over the last two decades there have
been people, mainly changed stores, that have tried to get
New Zealanders into Halloween. I reckon we haven't kind of
responded that well. I think probably if I look back
ten years ago doing talk back, people were quite concerned
(10:18):
and worried and thought it's gone to Helen a handker
no one talks about anymore. So I'm just putting out there,
am I right? That Halloween's done its dash, that New
z Inlanders haven't really embraced it. We've never really worked
out what it's about. We've been vaguely freaked out about it.
We've thought this is not us, and we've given it
the big pass that don't come Monday. Would that be
(10:39):
your inspiration? Would that be your reaction to Halloween? That
probably is a country we've passed it by because that's
the sense I feel. I think even when my kids
were young, there were sort of Facebook groups you could
go to houses it said that allowed dork and knocking,
but now there's very little. So that's my thoughts on Halloween.
I'll just be curious and look, I'm I don't have
(11:02):
a vest interest in Halloween. If people want to go
knocking on doors, knock yourself out, if that's your thing,
if that's you're right, year of fun, go for gold.
I would not stop you from doing that. There'd be
no part of me that thought, oh you can't do that.
I think it's fun that people are out and about
their neighborhoods, but as far as something that excites or
interests me, it's a big negative. It's just not something
(11:25):
I think, you know, monster costumes, that sort of stuff.
Not excited about.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It, see what I mean. I mean, he's like that.
Every year. It's been like me and fireworks. Really, I
suppose what I will say is that I don't understand
why it's like the shops they get out their Halloween
stuff and it's like they go back to me and
they go, oh, I've got all our Christmas stuff back
here as well. We may as well get that out
at the same time, and then before you know it,
(11:51):
you've got Christmas stuff in the shops in September, So
that seems like a lot. There's hampers, there's Christmas hampers
at the supermarket. Does the stuff in there keep that long?
You're gonna have some pretty stale mins Ties Christmas Min's
tarts by the time Christmas rolls around, I would have
(12:14):
thought anyway. So I'm going to be a grinch about that.
Marcus can keep grinching about Halloween, and hopefully, despite us
crusty old geezers on this podcast, you'll come back for
another one tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
See then use Talking talkings it Bean for more from
news Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sed be Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenhart and we are
looking back at Monday, this whole managed retreat business, where
houses are likely to be flooded and where they are.
It's complicated. Andrews surely is on the way out the
former friends, I mean, Marcus thinks Halloween is on the
way out, but I think he's been thinking that for
(00:45):
a long time now before any of that teacher the
teacher mega strike. What do they want exactly?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Give me strength. I have sympathy for the medical people,
but the education sector have lost my support. Now that's
from Mark. Thank you for your text. This text says, Hi, guys,
you need to listen to your guy. Tim Beveridge's interview
the union guy Chris Apple Crombie Abercrombie yesterday between three
(01:14):
and four pm. Tim asked them about the Palestine issue
as the number one item on the agenda, and he
admitted it was on there, but he didn't say it
was the top issue. That's surely that is crazy. You're
going into negotiate for your union members and you're bringing
up something that has absolutely nothing to do with what
(01:35):
you do, and you have absolutely no sway or control
on for a start. I mean, we're in the middle
of the Pacific Ocean trying to negotiate terms for the
education sector.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's so weird.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I mean, it is the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I've just got a week quote here from Abercrombie, the
head of the Teachers Union. So here's the quote here.
They had suggested four items relating to as you say, Palestine,
NCA changes, AI marking, and curriculum. The last three is fine.
It's like one of those quizzers. Watch one's the odd
one out. Why are you bringing Palestine into it? What
has that got to do with teachers?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Look, I love teachers. My mum was a teacher, and
you know, I've got a lot of teachers in the family.
Great people, had a great time with teachers, but I
don't think they're being represented well by their union if
that is one of the four things on an agenda. Yeah,
boy boy, Hi guys, teacher's pay has increased by one
hundred and sixty two percent since nineteen ninety. Inflation over
(02:33):
the same period has been one hundred and seventeen percent.
Ralatively speaking, they have never had it so good. The
strike is purely political.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, so certainly as far as the wider news talks,
there be vibe goes. I think the teachers have lost
a bit of support. Actually, yeah, I think they've started
asking for things that don't seem to be directly related to,
you know, teaching, which is.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Odd news talk.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Has it been right? And now this business of to
manage retreat is that what it's called managed retreat, trying
to slowly but surely get people to not live in
places that will be underwater in the next big storm.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Don't expect a handout. That's basically the message to homeowners
who are hoping the government will swoop in and buy
out houses after the next big cyclone, as they have
been doing to this point. Watts is the Climate minister.
He took a paper to cabinet. I had to read
of it at the weekend. They haven't immediately turned the
tap off to buyouts, but they're making it pretty clear
(03:37):
it won't be long before they do. How long does
it say, specifically, just sometime in the near future. If
you're buying a house or you're buying land, you're going
to want to check flood zones very carefully. Basically, after
the Auckland floods, you know which parts of your suburb
are prone to flooding. You can see it, you saw it.
That's generally where you don't want to buy. You're going
(04:00):
to have to manage this risk. We are going to
have to manage this risk. Our insurers are going to
have to manage this risk and try and mitigate it.
The Council and the government spent billion on buyouts. This
is after the Auckland floods. That may not happen next time.
And guess how many homes are sitting in flood prone
areas right now in New Zealand. Apparently, according to the
latest data, hundreds of thousands worth one hundred and eighty
(04:22):
billion dollars combined. It means insurance will be more expensive
or non existent for some areas and some properties. The
government basically wants to take itself out of the risk equation,
one because it's cheaper for them, two because buying out
flood prone land distorts the market. If you know a
buyout is going to happen, you'll be less worried about
(04:45):
flooding and pay more than you should for the site.
The scientists tell us that damage from cyclones and floodings
is only going to get more intense and frequent, and
you should basically consider this a warning from the government.
They don't want the same thing that's happening to the
properties happening to their books.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah. I mean, it's like driving your car without a warrant.
I mean, you're probably won't get pulled over, you probably
won't get fine. But if in the worst case scenario,
if you're involved in an accident, you definitely won't be
ensured and there'll probably be charges. So uh, I guess
that's just how it goes, isn't it. Sorry to be
(05:26):
the bearer of bad tidings?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Talk?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, the troublesome Prince. Is he still a prince? He's
got his titles? Or has he not got his titles?
I don't understand any of us. We're all family business.
Can we please just get rid of it? The whole thing?
I mean?
Speaker 6 (05:43):
But honestly, I don't know that King Charles has done
enough because Andrew hasn't actually lost anything which might be
news to you, because the Palace has done an epic
spin job and trying to make it look like Andrew's
given up all of his titles. He actually hasn't. He
is still the Duke of York. He just has agreed
not to use it in public.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And I don't know about year.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
We saw how that went with Meghan and Harry, didn't
we They were also promising not to use their HRH
titles and their MEGS was busted using it in a
private to someone. So what's happening now is all the
UK newspapers are unsatisfied that calling for complete stripping of
the titles. You've got the MPs coming under pressure to
confront the royal family. Just the sheer volume of coverage
(06:21):
that this is getting at the moment over in the
UK suggests that this could go on for days. That
is not what King Charles wants because in a couple
of days he's got a meeting with the Pope and
he will not want that meeting to be overshadowed by
his playboy brother and all the revelations coming out. I
would say, watch the space, I reckon there's a better
than average chance that Andrew hasn't even got his full
punishment yet.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh it's not going to be en off with his
head scenario. It can they still do that? There's so
many things I don't understand. You still set Maybe Kerry
has her head around these things much better than I do.
A sheer royal watcher.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
Or no, no wonder. William is just appalled by them.
He was probably the biggest threat to the monarchy in
recent times then since Edward the seventh, not Harry, this
thing lump and ghastly creature. Honestly, both of them. I
(07:21):
include both of them under that heading. It's I mean,
when you wonder, what on earth is the point of
the monarchy, when you look at that face and you
have to try and remember that it's not about him,
it's you know, they do a lot of good for tourism,
(07:42):
King Charles and Prince William and Catherine who are very
hard working, and Sophie and he's the exception, not the rule,
and second sons are the exception, not the rule. But
bloody hell, it took forever finally said, you know, I
used to think the Queen was just about perfect, just about,
(08:04):
but her blind spot was Andrew. She could not see
him for the deeply flawed human he is right up
to the end. Anyway, Hopefully that's the end of him.
Surely even monarchists must think he is a complete and
(08:25):
utter waste of space and through the day they gave
up on sending members of the royal family to the tower.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Isn't this just what royals have been doing for centuries
by acting super weird and thinking that they can get
away with it because they're royal. I mean, that's that's
That's part of it, isn't it. Isn't that just what
people expect of. That's why I'm not into it anyway.
(08:54):
Maybe if enough people aren't in good anymore, they will
finally get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Meanwhile, Marcus I think wants to get rid of Halloween.
He's such a Is there a what is the Grinch
of Halloween? I mean, we know what the Granches at
Christmas is. There is there a sort of a Halloween equivalent?
There should be?
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Maybe it's Marcus Halloween. It's sometime soon. And here's what
it knows about Halloween. The shops like Kmart and the
Warehouse are.
Speaker 9 (09:28):
Full of the most gosh awful tech you've seen in
your life, stuff that is either neither use nor ornament,
the most appalling stuff.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
It's tomorrow's landfill today and tomorrow's diabetes today. It's all there,
all wrapped up and won horrible without any kind of worth.
So yeah, so it devr in the shops.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
But I suspect.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
I don't know where you are with this one. I
suspect that probably over the last two decades there have
been people, mainly changed stores, that have tried to get
New Zealanders into Halloween. I reckon we haven't kind of
responded that well. I think probably if I look back
ten years ago doing talk back, people were quite concerned
(10:18):
and worried and thought it's gone to Helen a handker
no one talks about anymore. So I'm just putting out there,
am I right? That Halloween's done its dash, that New
z Inlanders haven't really embraced it. We've never really worked
out what it's about. We've been vaguely freaked out about it.
We've thought this is not us, and we've given it
the big pass that don't come Monday. Would that be
(10:39):
your inspiration? Would that be your reaction to Halloween? That
probably is a country we've passed it by because that's
the sense I feel. I think even when my kids
were young, there were sort of Facebook groups you could
go to houses it said that allowed dork and knocking,
but now there's very little. So that's my thoughts on Halloween.
I'll just be curious and look, I'm I don't have
(11:02):
a vest interest in Halloween. If people want to go
knocking on doors, knock yourself out, if that's your thing,
if that's you're right, year of fun, go for gold.
I would not stop you from doing that. There'd be
no part of me that thought, oh you can't do that.
I think it's fun that people are out and about
their neighborhoods, but as far as something that excites or
interests me, it's a big negative. It's just not something
(11:25):
I think, you know, monster costumes, that sort of stuff.
Not excited about.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
It, see what I mean. I mean, he's like that.
Every year. It's been like me and fireworks. Really, I
suppose what I will say is that I don't understand
why it's like the shops they get out their Halloween
stuff and it's like they go back to me and
they go, oh, I've got all our Christmas stuff back
here as well. We may as well get that out
at the same time, and then before you know it,
(11:51):
you've got Christmas stuff in the shops in September, So
that seems like a lot. There's hampers, there's Christmas hampers
at the supermarket. Does the stuff in there keep that long?
You're gonna have some pretty stale mins Ties Christmas Min's
tarts by the time Christmas rolls around, I would have
(12:14):
thought anyway. So I'm going to be a grinch about that.
Marcus can keep grinching about Halloween, and hopefully, despite us
crusty old geezers on this podcast, you'll come back for
another one tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
See then use Talking talkings it Bean for more from
news Talk said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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