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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Jasinta Durn's got a book out,
Who Cares Schiffing and what that's like? And Marcus looks
at TikTok. But before any of that workplace safety, there
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are some changes on the way. It's part of the
whole fast track check ass get rid of red tape
philosophy of the coalition government and also seeming to involve
road Cone hotline.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
They instruct the workers to wear it. They do spot
checks to ensure the workers are wearing it, and the
workers are not wearing it. They say that the goggles
missed up, that the harnesses mean that they can't rely
on their own wits to go about the building, and
they'd rather risk death than rely on their own sense
of balance. The employees don't seem to value their lives.
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In some cases, you've got to get employees on board
as well. It's all very well for the bosses to
be yelling until they're red in the face that you've
got to wear this stuff otherwise the site gets closed down.
There has to be a culture of safety that workers
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have to value themselves and employers have to value their workers,
and you can't regulate for that. You can't red cone that.
I tend to agree that too many rules just mean
you the important ones get lost in the noise. Too
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many road cones, and you don't know when it's dangerous
and when it's not. But our work related deaths are appalling,
and they've been appalling for a very very long time.
To lax they were appalling too strict, still appalling. How
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do we fix it? It's only those workers and dangerous occupations,
mainly men, and the bosses and those dangerous occupations that can.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Tell us some common sense thing keeps coming out, doesn't it?
And I was just thinking, when have I thought to myself, oh,
that's convenient that there's workplace safety. And I just remembered
when I say I review from time to time, you
release televisions for the news talks of b website and
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televisions are large and they come in heavy boxes. Well
the boxes aren't heavy, but they are us. They're going
a TV inside them and anyway, the carrier will knock
on the door and say, here's your TV to review,
and I'll say cool, just bring it in here. They
bring it in and then I'll say, oh, would you
mind helping me get it up the stairs and they say,
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oh no, we're not allowed to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Now are they not allowed to do that?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
In case they injure themselves on the job, in case
they injure the tally on the job, or they just
don't want to news talk Z been anyway about those road.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Cones, All they really do is piss people off and
reveal how rubbish the road design was to begin with. Plus,
just think about this. Really, it's a bunch of road
cones and a dumb place on a busy road. We've
all seen it, work safe end ZTA Council. They all
drive past this busy spot every day. Then you've got
Barbara and a little Honda Civic. She drives past it.
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She calls it, and I'll the tip line. BARRYE. He's
in his truck and trailer. He calls it, and I'll
call the tip line. You're a good citizen, Barry. And
then Sally, of course, pigs that kids up from school
at three pm every day. She calls him the tip line.
They all ring the tip line, they all report the
same thing. It will then be somebody's job to sort
through the tips. Of course, you know Barrie's, We've got Barbara's,
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We've got Sally's. What streets they had or she called
from the sangle. Somebody else has to triarge the tip
line and the tips. Remember, so there's two jobs. There
are two people employed in this already. You see where
I'm going with this. In three weeks, Barry, Sally and
barb might get a letter in the mail because the
post only runs two days a week. Now, remember the
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letter says, we're looking into this issue for you. Meanwhile,
one hundred government or council people have walked or driven
past the road cone Armageddon and nothing has changed. This
is the problem with tip lines, This is the problem
with governments, This is the problem with people who work
for them, and we shouldn't be one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
But uncomfortable about the way Ryan profile people with the
vehicles that they drive. I don't know why Barbara had
to be in a Honda Civic and Barry could be
in a truck seemed a bit stereotypical to me. The
thing with cones, though, is that I actually think that
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there's probably a reason for them being there in most cases,
if the people are doing the work there. The frustrating
thing thing for me is that the cones are there,
but the workers aren't. Why can't Why can't we find
people to do the work twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week. It's specta when it comes to
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roading and infrastructure. But you know, come a weekend, come nighttime,
everyone's gone home and they've just left the cones behind,
haven't they. Okay, So do you remember somebody by the
name of just send any name, isn't it? She used
to be in charge of us, and now she's written
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a book about that.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
So she gave an interview to Arenz's Jesse Mulligan where
he asked her about vaccine mandates, which we now know,
of course, was a huge mistake that cost people their
jobs simply because they wouldn't get the jab in which
the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID said damaged social cohesion.
Would she agree with that, he asked her. She said
she wouldn't argue with their findings. He then asked her,
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did vaccine mandates save any lives? She said, she's not
the one that can answer that question for you, although
apparently she can't tell you that she did save twenty
thousand lives. She just can't talk about this particular instance.
And then she goes on to say that the Commission
did also say that vaccine mandates were important in areas
like healthcare and so on, and we're relatively limited. But
again I won't argue with their findings. So not a yes,
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not a no, and definitely definitely not an apology. Now
I don't actually know why I was expecting anything else
from her, right, I mean, this was a feature of
Jacinda during COVID. She would never say she did anything wrong,
which is why it got worse and worse as she
barreled full steam ahead in the wrong direction at times,
because apparently going full steam ahead in the wrong direction
was better than admitting she was headed in the wrong direction.
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And of course she got things wrong. I mean, anyone
would have she made thousands and thousands of decisions over
multiple years, she would one hundred percent have got at
least one of those decisions wrong. Do you not think
it would be nice just to hear her admit it,
because I think it would help some of us. And
I'm talking about me here to forgive her.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'm surprised to hear that Jessie Mulligan was doing that,
and I thought he was mostly restaurant reviews. How does
a restaurant reviewer get to prosecute an interview with the
former prime minister? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
How do you?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Actually, what I really want to know is how do
you get to be a restaurant reviewer? That sounds like
an awesome job. Sounds more fun than reviewing TVs trying
to have to give them up the stairs. Actually, while
we're talking about restaurants, should we talk to a chef?
I'm saying, to get hungry.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And what about the stress of As I was saying before,
when I see chefs in a kitchen when I'm a
restaurant and I love a restaurant where the kitchen's open
so you can you can watch people, But it looks
very stressful to me.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Yes, it is stressful for some people, not for everybody.
Right Like, I'm finding the job that I'm in right now,
which I love, but there are periods in this job
where I get really stressed out and I'm like, and
it's like for the most ridiculous things, Like I get stressed.
Everybody gets stressed about different things. Yeah you know what
I mean, And like, I'm hard wired for the environment
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that a kitchen. Yeah, the kitchen it so.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You see the stress that you saw it as exciting
that that you know, the tension and orders having to
get out in a certain amount of time.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
And yeah, I work. I'm a really fast paced worker.
Like I just need things to happen quickly. I need
to happen in a certain time frame. Like I'm just like,
go go, go, go go.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And that is why I could even be a chef.
I hate it when things go go, go, go go.
I just want to be able to casually do things
at my own speed. And that's why I found what
was that program that used to be on about the chef.
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I can't remember the name of it now everybody watched it.
The beer there it is even just thinking of the
name of the program. Don't pressure me, you know, it'll
come anyway. That program stressed me out to the mats
people shouting at each other, go go go.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I hate go go go, news talk zippin.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
That's why I'm no good at TikTok either. There's too
many sort of time restraints. You've got to do it fast.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It's got to be a short But.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
I'll tell what's something that's always left me cold? No,
I'm not saying I've left me cold something I know
very little about. And I don't want to sound like
I'm doing some great integet generational dive here. I've never
really used TikTok. Could be a call if you think
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I'm missing out anything, I don't think I am. In fact,
I find the other social media sites becoming less and
less interesting, particularly Facebook. Who are those people hanging in
the comments section, like hanging around news websites saying things
like or slow news day? I mean the mindlessness that
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masks much, such crippling loneliness or whatever it is. It's depressing,
honestly if you get a look any of these comments
sections on people just sitting around ward stupid, waiting to
say something nasty. What a way to live your life?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Isn't that the whole purpose of social media? So all
the people who just want to spend their lives winding
and moaning about things can get together and do it
with each other, and amplify it and concentrate it down
and make it as bad as possible. Isn't that what
social media is for and that's why we should.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Get rid of it anyway, Please share.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Links to this podcast with all your followers and I'll
see you back here again tomorrow online.
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