January 19, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Aussies Ain't All That/Sailing Is Just So Weird/Polls Are Just So Weird/Pens VS Swords/Country Not for Everyone
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean. First
with yesterday's news, I am Glenn's V. It's the weekend edition.
It's the first edition of the year. It's the summer
end of the summer holidays. It's and it's so important
this edition of News Talks ed being If you're not
listening to this, well you can't hear what I'm saying,
(00:45):
so I don't know why I'm talking to you. For
those of you who are great to have you here,
great to have you back. It's Talk Sale VP. It's
that roll through town yesterday in Auckland. I'll go whole out.
This year is really cracking on, isn't it. Author David
(01:06):
Baldacci that talks about people threatening to kill them, and
Tammy Nielsen and doctor Jada Watson are talking about country
music and how women don't really get a fair go.
But before any of that stop clicking, Australia is such
a great place, will you.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Last week the Sydney Morning Herald rand stories on Sydney's
housing crisis and on the bank of Mum and Dad
increasingly being tapped to help younger people through the cost
of living crisis. Their trains don't run not too often either.
Their beaches are shut due to pollution an effluent waste,
They have race issues and the weather. Seventy thousand lightning
(01:44):
strikes were reported on Wednesday. Australia's construction industry is suffering
like ours, with Melbourne's Herald Sun reporting on a property
giants collapse, that Australia is grappling with the mortgage led
surge and calls to the National Debt Helpline, and there's
a shocking rise and hospital work has been attacked. Sound familiar.
On Brisbane's The Courier Mail, there were stories about TikTok
(02:07):
stars and NR Wells players, drink driving charges, snake bites,
fire bombings and infrastructure woes. There was some good news though,
Brezie debut on the Timeout's Best fifty Cities in the
World list for twenty twenty five credit where credits due.
None of our cities made the list all on all though,
it was a reminder that the grass may not be
(02:28):
much greener on the other side of the ditch. For
sure you can make Australia work to your advantage. Just
the size of the place means more jobs. But to
make the move work, you need to end up in
the right place for your circumstances, with the right job
and affordable living which allows you to get ahead. As
one of my talkback callers said to me during summer afternoons,
you might be able to have a barbie any night
of the week because you know the weather will be great.
(02:50):
But there's more to consider. But if Kiwi's decide to,
you know, make the move, they should feel right at home.
Reading all these papers, I learned the Aussies whine about
stuff just as much as we do.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And even worse, they do it in an Australian accent.
So yeah, that's it's hard to hear, isn't it. Always
keep reminding people about that. You go to Australia, You're fine.
It is full of Australians. It's a real downside.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If you ask me news talk has it been now?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So Russell Coots, New Zealander. I think there have been
times over the years where some other New Zealanders had
wished that he wasn't a New Zealander, but he is
a New Zealander. He's also the guy who seems to
run the sale GP thing, so he was talking about
(03:50):
that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It's a world class salor. Yourself. Put yourself on one
of these boats.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What it's a difficult boat to sail, as you say,
what do you need to do to sail it?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, well, I even saw them much, you know, I
think I've been twice, but and I haven't driven one,
you know, but they are incredibly difficult, you know. It's
it's like the analogy would be flying an aircraft with
somebody controlling the thrust, somebody controlling the tail, somebody controlling
each flap on each in each wing, you know, and
(04:19):
not that same person all the time either, because they've
got a cross sides. So when for example, when the
fly control is crossing sides, the driver's got to be
flying the boat, you know. So I think there's thirty
two actions that the teams have to perform in perfect time.
So if the half a second out with one of
the actions, you see the boat go out of trim.
(04:41):
And you see that all the time because it's so
difficult to do because it depends on the turn rate.
Sometimes you're dictated by the other boats on the course.
So all of these teams can fly the boat with
zero touchdowns around the course if they're on their own.
But you put other boats on the course, it changes it,
you know, and all of a sudden, it puts your
(05:03):
timing out. You can't necessarily predict when they are going
to maneuver, and so all of a sudden and that
slightly rushed, some of the timing comes out, and the
mistake gets made, the boat falls into the water, and
the passes happened, you know. So it's really tough.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Domestic manager and a friend of hers availed themselves of
a bit of sailing based hospitality down at the sidak yesterday.
It's getting constant pictures of oats in the distance. Hard
to say really exactly which way they were going or
(05:40):
it was in front, who's behind? I don't know. Is
it really a live spectator sport? Apparently they were watching
it like with their phones in their hands, so they
knew what they were looking at the same time. All
I know is I watched a bit of it, and man,
we were terrible at starting the race. Our strategies seem
(06:01):
to be starting going across the start line last, and
you would have thought when that didn't work for them
for the first couple raises that they would have they
just give it a bit. So I think that's what
we were wrong there. Right, So we've got a poll.
Apparently people have had to some of to think about things,
(06:21):
and they quite like labor after all.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
The biggest question in our minds is what has happened?
Why does this poll show quite the turnaround?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, Look, I mean the first thing you see when
you look at this pole compared to last months is
that there are some pretty dramatic changes. You know, it's
a seventeen point drop and the people who believe that
the country is heading in the wrong direction. And frankly,
I think the answer to that is it's the economy.
December was a hard month for the government. There was
(06:51):
a lot of news coming out of that. One how
dire the state of the government's books are and two
you know that we're now facing down the worst economic
downturn in about thirty years. So that's that's starting to
filter through, particularly at the Christmas time. Struggling families really
notice when things get worse, you know, if it's if
(07:11):
there's an economic downtown, it for Christmas time, you're going
to notice that a lot more than any other time
of year. And I think that's what we're seeing floating through.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah. I think for most of us, when we think
about the last few months and the stuff that hasn't
happened or has happened politically, the one big thing that
floats around is the Treaty Principles Bill.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
We've had poles since the hecoy that took place, and
that showed minimal movement and support. So is it the
Treaty Principles Bill more than anything above the cost of
living that you've talked about.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
No, I think from our the data shows for any
of the largest issues that people are most concerned about
our economy, cost of living, and health.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, so don't There's not get carried away here. Nobody
cares about anything exciting. It's all the boring stuff as
usual that solves about it. Same old, same old, another year.
Welcome to us, right. David Boldacci is a very successful
(08:13):
writer and also currently alive. Right now inspires a fact
that sometimes people been so angry about what he writes
about they've written to often day.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That I know that you are a king follower of
world politics and things But is it true that you
have had d threats because of some of your books?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yes, I mean I've always felt like, if if you
didn't rile up some people, then what was the point
of writing the book. I must have written a pretty
plain vanilla novel. I mean books have changed the world.
Books can inspire people in many different ways, both for
the good and for the bad. So I've always felt
that if people were angry enough it's something that I wrote,
they would write and, you know, threaten to take my
(08:54):
life that I had gotten to them a little bit
and maybe they might think about it a little bit more.
Nobody likes to get those types of threats, but it
just goes. It goes with the work sometimes.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Is it ever in the back of your mind or
does it become a fact when you do think about
writing controversial topics.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You know, if I did, I might as well just
hang my pen up.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I would have paralyzed myself and taken out any real
power that I might have as a writer. If you
start second guessing what do you want to write about
and running through a sieve of you know, is this
going to be safe or not? Then I think that
you know you're done.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Your first book was published in nineteen ninety six, it's
about twenty eight years ago. You've written over fifty novels,
several children's books. As I mentioned, do you ever stop
writing or thinking about writing books?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
No, you don't. It's not for me at least. It's
not a nine to five. It's not a job, it's
not a hobby, it's not even a passion. It's really
what I identify as as writers. So the stories. I
can't just tell my mind to stop thinking about stories.
I went to the Australian Museum today and they had
a big exhibit on Machu Picci, was my wife and
my kids have actually seen. I was in Canada while
(10:03):
they were there, but and I started taking some pictures
of some of the exhibits and some of the background
about them, and because I was intrigued by it and
might later show up thematically, at least in one of
my novels. So no, you never turned that off. It's
really part of you who you are. There's no way
to separate that out from your other personality.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's interesting. It's the exact opposite to me, because as
soon as I leave this building, I don't think about
the news. I take no notice of the news, and
I just try and pretend the news isn't hit me.
So yeah, it's more than one way to I think
(10:45):
skinning a cat is the right metaphor.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, news talk it been.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We're going to finish up here talking country music, unfortunately,
because well Francisco, because we to Timy Nilson and doctor
Data Watson about it in Saturday, and I guess you know,
it was Luke being here last week. Yes, lots of
people went to the concerts and seem to have a
(11:13):
good time, blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I feel that the word country music is such a
broad term. I was wondering, maybe, Timmy, if you wanted
to start off by describing country music to someone who
maybe isn't so familiar with the genre.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Oh man, Yeah, country music is. It's a huge umbrella
with a lot of different subgenres under it. So you know,
everyone from Neil Young to Johnny Cash to Patsy Klein
to Taylor Swift. You know, these are, like you would think,
(11:50):
people in completely different musical genres, but they are all
kind of little subgenres under the umbrella of country music,
which is, you know, encompasses what's supposed to be you know,
the stories and the music of the people.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
So Jada, when you refer to country music, do you
use that broad umbrella as well.
Speaker 9 (12:15):
That's a tough question. Uh yeah, I really do. But
I probably approach it from a different angle than Tammy
does because she comes from the artist's perspective, so she's
probably thinking musically or sonically, whereas oftentimes I find I'm
thinking institutionally. So you know, I would I would be
(12:36):
thinking about, you know, mainstream channels, like whether or not
artists are operating within the music row system in Nashville
or outside of it, and what that what that means.
So you know, some of the artists that Tammy mentioned
definitely are operating within you know, mainstream Nashville music making processes,
(13:00):
and then some aren't. And so that I tend to
I tend to focus on the institutional side of things
through my life.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So sorry about it. I'm not very happy with the
first podcast of the year, to be honest. We talked
about things like the economy, it's boring, sailing which I
always said isn't a proper sport, and country music, which
(13:27):
isn't proper music. So try and sort that out there tomorrow.
I'll see you then.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Us Talk is Talking zied Bean. For more from News
Talk said b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks ed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, SEDV Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean. First
with yesterday's news, I am Glenn's V. It's the weekend edition.
It's the first edition of the year. It's the summer
end of the summer holidays. It's and it's so important
this edition of News Talks ed being If you're not
listening to this, well you can't hear what I'm saying,
(00:45):
so I don't know why I'm talking to you. For
those of you who are great to have you here,
great to have you back. It's Talk Sale VP. It's
that roll through town yesterday in Auckland. I'll go whole out.
This year is really cracking on, isn't it. Author David
(01:06):
Baldacci that talks about people threatening to kill them, and
Tammy Nielsen and doctor Jada Watson are talking about country
music and how women don't really get a fair go.
But before any of that stop clicking, Australia is such
a great place, will you.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Last week the Sydney Morning Herald rand stories on Sydney's
housing crisis and on the bank of Mum and Dad
increasingly being tapped to help younger people through the cost
of living crisis. Their trains don't run not too often either.
Their beaches are shut due to pollution an effluent waste,
They have race issues and the weather. Seventy thousand lightning
(01:44):
strikes were reported on Wednesday. Australia's construction industry is suffering
like ours, with Melbourne's Herald Sun reporting on a property
giants collapse, that Australia is grappling with the mortgage led
surge and calls to the National Debt Helpline, and there's
a shocking rise and hospital work has been attacked. Sound familiar.
On Brisbane's The Courier Mail, there were stories about TikTok
(02:07):
stars and NR Wells players, drink driving charges, snake bites,
fire bombings and infrastructure woes. There was some good news though,
Brezie debut on the Timeout's Best fifty Cities in the
World list for twenty twenty five credit where credits due.
None of our cities made the list all on all though,
it was a reminder that the grass may not be
(02:28):
much greener on the other side of the ditch. For
sure you can make Australia work to your advantage. Just
the size of the place means more jobs. But to
make the move work, you need to end up in
the right place for your circumstances, with the right job
and affordable living which allows you to get ahead. As
one of my talkback callers said to me during summer afternoons,
you might be able to have a barbie any night
of the week because you know the weather will be great.
(02:50):
But there's more to consider. But if Kiwi's decide to,
you know, make the move, they should feel right at home.
Reading all these papers, I learned the Aussies whine about
stuff just as much as we do.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And even worse, they do it in an Australian accent.
So yeah, that's it's hard to hear, isn't it. Always
keep reminding people about that. You go to Australia, You're fine.
It is full of Australians. It's a real downside.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If you ask me news talk has it been now?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
So Russell Coots, New Zealander. I think there have been
times over the years where some other New Zealanders had
wished that he wasn't a New Zealander, but he is
a New Zealander. He's also the guy who seems to
run the sale GP thing, so he was talking about
(03:50):
that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It's a world class salor. Yourself. Put yourself on one
of these boats.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What it's a difficult boat to sail, as you say,
what do you need to do to sail it?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, well, I even saw them much, you know, I
think I've been twice, but and I haven't driven one,
you know, but they are incredibly difficult, you know. It's
it's like the analogy would be flying an aircraft with
somebody controlling the thrust, somebody controlling the tail, somebody controlling
each flap on each in each wing, you know, and
(04:19):
not that same person all the time either, because they've
got a cross sides. So when for example, when the
fly control is crossing sides, the driver's got to be
flying the boat, you know. So I think there's thirty
two actions that the teams have to perform in perfect time.
So if the half a second out with one of
the actions, you see the boat go out of trim.
(04:41):
And you see that all the time because it's so
difficult to do because it depends on the turn rate.
Sometimes you're dictated by the other boats on the course.
So all of these teams can fly the boat with
zero touchdowns around the course if they're on their own.
But you put other boats on the course, it changes it,
you know, and all of a sudden, it puts your
(05:03):
timing out. You can't necessarily predict when they are going
to maneuver, and so all of a sudden and that
slightly rushed, some of the timing comes out, and the
mistake gets made, the boat falls into the water, and
the passes happened, you know. So it's really tough.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Domestic manager and a friend of hers availed themselves of
a bit of sailing based hospitality down at the sidak yesterday.
It's getting constant pictures of oats in the distance. Hard
to say really exactly which way they were going or
(05:40):
it was in front, who's behind? I don't know. Is
it really a live spectator sport? Apparently they were watching
it like with their phones in their hands, so they
knew what they were looking at the same time. All
I know is I watched a bit of it, and man,
we were terrible at starting the race. Our strategies seem
(06:01):
to be starting going across the start line last, and
you would have thought when that didn't work for them
for the first couple raises that they would have they
just give it a bit. So I think that's what
we were wrong there. Right, So we've got a poll.
Apparently people have had to some of to think about things,
(06:21):
and they quite like labor after all.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
The biggest question in our minds is what has happened?
Why does this poll show quite the turnaround?
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Yeah, Look, I mean the first thing you see when
you look at this pole compared to last months is
that there are some pretty dramatic changes. You know, it's
a seventeen point drop and the people who believe that
the country is heading in the wrong direction. And frankly,
I think the answer to that is it's the economy.
December was a hard month for the government. There was
(06:51):
a lot of news coming out of that. One how
dire the state of the government's books are and two
you know that we're now facing down the worst economic
downturn in about thirty years. So that's that's starting to
filter through, particularly at the Christmas time. Struggling families really
notice when things get worse, you know, if it's if
(07:11):
there's an economic downtown, it for Christmas time, you're going
to notice that a lot more than any other time
of year. And I think that's what we're seeing floating through.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah. I think for most of us, when we think
about the last few months and the stuff that hasn't
happened or has happened politically, the one big thing that
floats around is the Treaty Principles Bill.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
We've had poles since the hecoy that took place, and
that showed minimal movement and support. So is it the
Treaty Principles Bill more than anything above the cost of
living that you've talked about.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
No, I think from our the data shows for any
of the largest issues that people are most concerned about
our economy, cost of living, and health.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, so don't There's not get carried away here. Nobody
cares about anything exciting. It's all the boring stuff as
usual that solves about it. Same old, same old, another year.
Welcome to us, right. David Boldacci is a very successful
(08:13):
writer and also currently alive. Right now inspires a fact
that sometimes people been so angry about what he writes
about they've written to often day.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That I know that you are a king follower of
world politics and things But is it true that you
have had d threats because of some of your books?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yes, I mean I've always felt like, if if you
didn't rile up some people, then what was the point
of writing the book. I must have written a pretty
plain vanilla novel. I mean books have changed the world.
Books can inspire people in many different ways, both for
the good and for the bad. So I've always felt
that if people were angry enough it's something that I wrote,
they would write and, you know, threaten to take my
(08:54):
life that I had gotten to them a little bit
and maybe they might think about it a little bit more.
Nobody likes to get those types of threats, but it
just goes. It goes with the work sometimes.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Is it ever in the back of your mind or
does it become a fact when you do think about
writing controversial topics.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You know, if I did, I might as well just
hang my pen up.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I would have paralyzed myself and taken out any real
power that I might have as a writer. If you
start second guessing what do you want to write about
and running through a sieve of you know, is this
going to be safe or not? Then I think that
you know you're done.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Your first book was published in nineteen ninety six, it's
about twenty eight years ago. You've written over fifty novels,
several children's books. As I mentioned, do you ever stop
writing or thinking about writing books?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
No, you don't. It's not for me at least. It's
not a nine to five. It's not a job, it's
not a hobby, it's not even a passion. It's really
what I identify as as writers. So the stories. I
can't just tell my mind to stop thinking about stories.
I went to the Australian Museum today and they had
a big exhibit on Machu Picci, was my wife and
my kids have actually seen. I was in Canada while
(10:03):
they were there, but and I started taking some pictures
of some of the exhibits and some of the background
about them, and because I was intrigued by it and
might later show up thematically, at least in one of
my novels. So no, you never turned that off. It's
really part of you who you are. There's no way
to separate that out from your other personality.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's interesting. It's the exact opposite to me, because as
soon as I leave this building, I don't think about
the news. I take no notice of the news, and
I just try and pretend the news isn't hit me.
So yeah, it's more than one way to I think
(10:45):
skinning a cat is the right metaphor.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, news talk it been.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
We're going to finish up here talking country music, unfortunately,
because well Francisco, because we to Timy Nilson and doctor
Data Watson about it in Saturday, and I guess you know,
it was Luke being here last week. Yes, lots of
people went to the concerts and seem to have a
(11:13):
good time, blah blah.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I feel that the word country music is such a
broad term. I was wondering, maybe, Timmy, if you wanted
to start off by describing country music to someone who
maybe isn't so familiar with the genre.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Oh man, Yeah, country music is. It's a huge umbrella
with a lot of different subgenres under it. So you know,
everyone from Neil Young to Johnny Cash to Patsy Klein
to Taylor Swift. You know, these are, like you would think,
(11:50):
people in completely different musical genres, but they are all
kind of little subgenres under the umbrella of country music,
which is, you know, encompasses what's supposed to be you know,
the stories and the music of the people.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
So Jada, when you refer to country music, do you
use that broad umbrella as well.
Speaker 9 (12:15):
That's a tough question. Uh yeah, I really do. But
I probably approach it from a different angle than Tammy
does because she comes from the artist's perspective, so she's
probably thinking musically or sonically, whereas oftentimes I find I'm
thinking institutionally. So you know, I would I would be
(12:36):
thinking about, you know, mainstream channels, like whether or not
artists are operating within the music row system in Nashville
or outside of it, and what that what that means.
So you know, some of the artists that Tammy mentioned
definitely are operating within you know, mainstream Nashville music making processes,
(13:00):
and then some aren't. And so that I tend to
I tend to focus on the institutional side of things
through my life.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
So sorry about it. I'm not very happy with the
first podcast of the year, to be honest. We talked
about things like the economy, it's boring, sailing which I
always said isn't a proper sport, and country music, which
(13:27):
isn't proper music. So try and sort that out there tomorrow.
I'll see you then.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Us Talk is Talking zied Bean. For more from News
Talk said b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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