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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Used Talk said bean Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Thursday first and yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. So we've got the speed
limits changing on a bunch of roads. Is this good
or bad Trump's progress, if any? In his first week
(00:43):
in office the road who are homeless people have had
their trolleys taken off them and photo school photos on
the first day, it seems controversial. But before any of that,
a little bit more on asset sales. What's the point
if we don't actually have that many to sell?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
But I mean, really, when you look at what's left
after Labor did the mass of clean out, the fourth
Labor government did the massive clean out in the eighties.
Do we need to own homes to house people or
should that be left to charitable organizations and private individuals?
(01:24):
I suppose the only thing left health maybe hospitals. I mean,
let's face it, it is a huge cumbersome beast with
the best will in the world. The changes to the
Ministry of Health and to the hospitals that it oversees
as part of its job. Are not the changes are
(01:46):
not going to be made within the next ten years
bringing everything together under one roof all of the different
hospital boards merged together as one operating unit across the country,
and there's no guarantee of success. Do you put health
out privatize that still free to the taxpayer, but not
(02:10):
governed by the government. I don't know. I think most
of it's gone. I think John Key's right, there are
other better, faster ways to improve the economy. The only
thing I can see, and this is just looking at
it theoretically, the only thing I can see that we've
got worth selling is the property portfolio. And is that
(02:33):
what we really want to do?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So yeah, John Key yesterday head rock star of the
rock star economy of course, which, as I have always claimed,
just happened to coincide when most people in the world
were having a pretty rock star time for their economies.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Has it been so? Yeah, the times ticking for the
government to turn things around. When they say fast tracking,
do they mean actual speed, Because it looks like the
speed limits are going up on quite a few roads
around the country.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
At the end of the day, governments draw line in
the sand, and it's often arbitrary where they draw this line.
The problem with the reductions that the last lot enacted
was that they took that arbitrary line and they drew
it all over roads around the country that didn't need
the reductions, in places where the locals just scratched their
heads in disbelief. Masterton to Featherston is a good example.
(03:32):
It's a road that I drive relatively frequently, and the
journey from Wellington to Marsterton used to take you closer
to an hour and a half. Now it will be
closer to two hours. That's on my clock anyway. And
even Kera MacNulty, the Labor MP, the local MP and
Cabinet minister and the government that made the change thought
(03:54):
it was done. Apparently he couldn't do anything to change it.
So finally some of these decisions are being reversed and
that is a good thing, including that particular stretch of
State Highway to All of this, of course, ignores the
bigger problem, which is the state of our roads. Don't
die on good roads generally. In fact, there's plenty of
international evidence if you want it that you put the
(04:15):
speed up from one hundred to one hundred and ten
on a good road without more deaths, and that is
proof that the real problem is the state of the roads,
and that lowering speed limits was the half asked way
of masking that problem.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think most people generally agree that
bad driving or people making mistakes when they're driving, it's
probably the leading cause of accidents. So obviously what we
need to do is outlaw bad driving.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
We need to do whatever you like with the speed limits,
but reduce bad driving problem solve moving.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
On US talk City.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
There's those kinds of inspirational ideas that make Trump the
can do kind of leader that he is.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
American construction tycoons and people like Trump want to rebuild Gaza.
There's money there, so guess what, who did it? And
just like that cease fire, Gaza may be rebuilt as
Israeli condos or Palestinian homes with or without Arab money
or American money. But who cares? There's a ceasefire. Now
(05:26):
this may have long term consequences, but again, who cares?
There's a ceasefire? Thank god, something finally happened. That's what
Trump does. He makes things happen, and some people worry
a lot about oh, what might happen next? Might be bad,
but often you have no idea what's going to happen next.
It's been a week of rapid and effective decisions, and
(05:46):
that's what you can do when you've got the executive
power in every level of government behind you. He's the
closest you've got to an autocrat that you could get democratically.
And I talked earlier about privatization, and I talked about
how MMP causes indecisive leadership in New Zealand. Well, Donald
Trump is the antithesis of MMP, which is probably why
(06:08):
so many Kiwis load them, but it's also why so
many New Zealanders love him. He just says yes, he
doesn't say no. Christopher Luxha must be so jealous.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Reason a lot of Kiwis load them is because he's
a convicted fraudster and sex abuser. I think that's two
main reasons. And a repeat failed businessman as well, and
(06:42):
just not a very nice sounding kind of a guy.
I think that's why some people don't like him anyway.
So they're taking a hard line and wrote over people
necking off with supermarket market trolleys to put all their
positions in all their worldly possessions so they can continue
(07:06):
to thrive out in the street. M Yeah, the employee
has gone out and got the trolley's back. He's good
or bad.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Here's a text here on two nine to two on
the chopping trolley incident. Anyone with no sympathy for Betsy
doesn't deserve to get old. That's from Georgia. But you
made up Betsy.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
Yeah, we just want to if you've just tuned in.
I mentioned a character called Betsy. She's atty two years old,
she's got Arthur Ryder. She doesn't live too far away
from the supermarket, and sometimes she takes a supermarket probably
outside the car park.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
You were trying to test the gray areas on my blanket.
You should never take the shopping trolley that you don't
own out of the supermarket car park.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I was trying to tug the heart strings of the
good and be listeners. But they saw threw my rooms and.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
I said, lot Betsy up. But there's only because Betsy
doesn't exist.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
And the amount of Texas that came through said yeap
Betsy's head in time, Lock her up. She's stealing that.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
This is an interesting idea from Warwick. Pay homeless people
ten dollars to return lost trolleys.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
I like that idea.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, would that work?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I mean ten bucks is ten bucks. I would return
supermarket troll for ten bucks. I'm not stealing them. I
just want to make that clear. But if I found them,
you know, you find four, that's forty.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Bucks taking work off homeless people. Muscle the trolleys off them.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I tip peeve about supermarket trolley's being in the wrong place. Actually,
for some reason, it really gets my goat, and I do,
if I've got time, I will wheel a supermarket trolley
back several blocks if I find them in the wrong place,
(08:42):
often with a nagging feeling that if I'm caught wheeling
that supermarket trolley through suburbia that people might think that
I owned them.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
So that's a bit of a.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's not always a good idea to pat the law
into your own hands, is it.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Now that I reflect on that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Hus talk?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Has it been We're going to finish up here? On
Marcus's I don't know. I wouldn't pull it in an
obosition this week, but obviously his focus is clearly on
going back to school, not him, but the kids.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You have exquisite Facebook today, most people are posting pictures
of their children in their brand new school uniform off
to secondary school or intermediate school or primary school for
those that were born in the last seven weeks. And God,
there's something adorable about the freshly laundered uniforms that are
(09:37):
slightly too big for the kids because they are going
to grow into them, and them often, and their blazer
and their long socks on the world's hottest day, and
those faces and those looks of hope and optimism, knowing
full well in seven years time they're going to be giants.
The uniforms are going to be wrecked, and the socks
(09:58):
are going to be down, and their dreams will be shattered.
Nothing quite as moving as that, although thinking about it,
I can remember my first day of secondary school. I
remember my first day of primary school. I can't remember
the first day of intermediate school. It's amazing how after
(10:18):
all those years, those memories are so vivid. Nothing surprisingly
happened to me at the first day of primary school
or secondary school. But for some of you it will
be a different story.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And this is all very triggering. I've tried to repress
most of my memories of most of my days at school.
I'm pretty sure there were the good ones were far
outweighed by the durable ones. I hated it so much,
and I'd rather than accidents, you know, force me to
(10:54):
confront those memories. We'll just keep pushing them down. I'm
sure that's healthy. They just ignore that. Can we're talking
about the first sort of We're not the first, I guess,
and kindergarten through to do I hate kindergarten, felt sure
about that, but definitely hated bost of school. So five
(11:18):
through to about eighteen, I guess, such a small fraction
of my life. Now that I'm really old, I'm feeling
good already, I'm saying to forget it again. I don't
can't even remember what we were talking about at desper
but don't forget to join us back here again tomorrow
for another news whats it'd been? I'll see you.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Then, used Talking Talking sid been.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
For more from us, Talk said, be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iart Radio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said bean Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Thursday first and yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. So we've got the speed
limits changing on a bunch of roads. Is this good
or bad Trump's progress, if any? In his first week
(00:43):
in office the road who are homeless people have had
their trolleys taken off them and photo school photos on
the first day, it seems controversial. But before any of that,
a little bit more on asset sales. What's the point
if we don't actually have that many to sell?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
But I mean, really, when you look at what's left
after Labor did the mass of clean out, the fourth
Labor government did the massive clean out in the eighties.
Do we need to own homes to house people or
should that be left to charitable organizations and private individuals?
(01:24):
I suppose the only thing left health maybe hospitals. I mean,
let's face it, it is a huge cumbersome beast with
the best will in the world. The changes to the
Ministry of Health and to the hospitals that it oversees
as part of its job. Are not the changes are
(01:46):
not going to be made within the next ten years
bringing everything together under one roof all of the different
hospital boards merged together as one operating unit across the country,
and there's no guarantee of success. Do you put health
out privatize that still free to the taxpayer, but not
(02:10):
governed by the government. I don't know. I think most
of it's gone. I think John Key's right, there are
other better, faster ways to improve the economy. The only
thing I can see, and this is just looking at
it theoretically, the only thing I can see that we've
got worth selling is the property portfolio. And is that
(02:33):
what we really want to do?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So yeah, John Key yesterday head rock star of the
rock star economy of course, which, as I have always claimed,
just happened to coincide when most people in the world
were having a pretty rock star time for their economies.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Has it been so? Yeah, the times ticking for the
government to turn things around. When they say fast tracking,
do they mean actual speed, Because it looks like the
speed limits are going up on quite a few roads
around the country.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
At the end of the day, governments draw line in
the sand, and it's often arbitrary where they draw this line.
The problem with the reductions that the last lot enacted
was that they took that arbitrary line and they drew
it all over roads around the country that didn't need
the reductions, in places where the locals just scratched their
heads in disbelief. Masterton to Featherston is a good example.
(03:32):
It's a road that I drive relatively frequently, and the
journey from Wellington to Marsterton used to take you closer
to an hour and a half. Now it will be
closer to two hours. That's on my clock anyway. And
even Kera MacNulty, the Labor MP, the local MP and
Cabinet minister and the government that made the change thought
(03:54):
it was done. Apparently he couldn't do anything to change it.
So finally some of these decisions are being reversed and
that is a good thing, including that particular stretch of
State Highway to All of this, of course, ignores the
bigger problem, which is the state of our roads. Don't
die on good roads generally. In fact, there's plenty of
international evidence if you want it that you put the
(04:15):
speed up from one hundred to one hundred and ten
on a good road without more deaths, and that is
proof that the real problem is the state of the roads,
and that lowering speed limits was the half asked way
of masking that problem.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, I mean, I think most people generally agree that
bad driving or people making mistakes when they're driving, it's
probably the leading cause of accidents. So obviously what we
need to do is outlaw bad driving.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
We need to do whatever you like with the speed limits,
but reduce bad driving problem solve moving.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
On US talk City.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
There's those kinds of inspirational ideas that make Trump the
can do kind of leader that he is.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
American construction tycoons and people like Trump want to rebuild Gaza.
There's money there, so guess what, who did it? And
just like that cease fire, Gaza may be rebuilt as
Israeli condos or Palestinian homes with or without Arab money
or American money. But who cares? There's a ceasefire. Now
(05:26):
this may have long term consequences, but again, who cares?
There's a ceasefire? Thank god, something finally happened. That's what
Trump does. He makes things happen, and some people worry
a lot about oh, what might happen next? Might be bad,
but often you have no idea what's going to happen next.
It's been a week of rapid and effective decisions, and
(05:46):
that's what you can do when you've got the executive
power in every level of government behind you. He's the
closest you've got to an autocrat that you could get democratically.
And I talked earlier about privatization, and I talked about
how MMP causes indecisive leadership in New Zealand. Well, Donald
Trump is the antithesis of MMP, which is probably why
(06:08):
so many Kiwis load them, but it's also why so
many New Zealanders love him. He just says yes, he
doesn't say no. Christopher Luxha must be so jealous.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Reason a lot of Kiwis load them is because he's
a convicted fraudster and sex abuser. I think that's two
main reasons. And a repeat failed businessman as well, and
(06:42):
just not a very nice sounding kind of a guy.
I think that's why some people don't like him anyway.
So they're taking a hard line and wrote over people
necking off with supermarket market trolleys to put all their
positions in all their worldly possessions so they can continue
(07:06):
to thrive out in the street. M Yeah, the employee
has gone out and got the trolley's back. He's good
or bad.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Here's a text here on two nine to two on
the chopping trolley incident. Anyone with no sympathy for Betsy
doesn't deserve to get old. That's from Georgia. But you
made up Betsy.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
Yeah, we just want to if you've just tuned in.
I mentioned a character called Betsy. She's atty two years old,
she's got Arthur Ryder. She doesn't live too far away
from the supermarket, and sometimes she takes a supermarket probably
outside the car park.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
You were trying to test the gray areas on my blanket.
You should never take the shopping trolley that you don't
own out of the supermarket car park.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I was trying to tug the heart strings of the
good and be listeners. But they saw threw my rooms and.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
I said, lot Betsy up. But there's only because Betsy
doesn't exist.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
And the amount of Texas that came through said yeap
Betsy's head in time, Lock her up. She's stealing that.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
This is an interesting idea from Warwick. Pay homeless people
ten dollars to return lost trolleys.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
I like that idea.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, would that work?
Speaker 8 (08:05):
I mean ten bucks is ten bucks. I would return
supermarket troll for ten bucks. I'm not stealing them. I
just want to make that clear. But if I found them,
you know, you find four, that's forty.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Bucks taking work off homeless people. Muscle the trolleys off them.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I tip peeve about supermarket trolley's being in the wrong place. Actually,
for some reason, it really gets my goat, and I do,
if I've got time, I will wheel a supermarket trolley
back several blocks if I find them in the wrong place,
(08:42):
often with a nagging feeling that if I'm caught wheeling
that supermarket trolley through suburbia that people might think that
I owned them.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
So that's a bit of a.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's not always a good idea to pat the law
into your own hands, is it.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Now that I reflect on that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Hus talk?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Has it been We're going to finish up here? On
Marcus's I don't know. I wouldn't pull it in an
obosition this week, but obviously his focus is clearly on
going back to school, not him, but the kids.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You have exquisite Facebook today, most people are posting pictures
of their children in their brand new school uniform off
to secondary school or intermediate school or primary school for
those that were born in the last seven weeks. And God,
there's something adorable about the freshly laundered uniforms that are
(09:37):
slightly too big for the kids because they are going
to grow into them, and them often, and their blazer
and their long socks on the world's hottest day, and
those faces and those looks of hope and optimism, knowing
full well in seven years time they're going to be giants.
The uniforms are going to be wrecked, and the socks
(09:58):
are going to be down, and their dreams will be shattered.
Nothing quite as moving as that, although thinking about it,
I can remember my first day of secondary school. I
remember my first day of primary school. I can't remember
the first day of intermediate school. It's amazing how after
(10:18):
all those years, those memories are so vivid. Nothing surprisingly
happened to me at the first day of primary school
or secondary school. But for some of you it will
be a different story.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And this is all very triggering. I've tried to repress
most of my memories of most of my days at school.
I'm pretty sure there were the good ones were far
outweighed by the durable ones. I hated it so much,
and I'd rather than accidents, you know, force me to
(10:54):
confront those memories. We'll just keep pushing them down. I'm
sure that's healthy. They just ignore that. Can we're talking
about the first sort of We're not the first, I guess,
and kindergarten through to do I hate kindergarten, felt sure
about that, but definitely hated bost of school. So five
(11:18):
through to about eighteen, I guess, such a small fraction
of my life. Now that I'm really old, I'm feeling
good already, I'm saying to forget it again. I don't
can't even remember what we were talking about at desper
but don't forget to join us back here again tomorrow
for another news whats it'd been? I'll see you.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Then, used Talking Talking sid been.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
For more from us, Talk said, be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iart Radio
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