October 12, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Some Things Are Inevitable/Aw, Ref!/What To Do with Targets You Don't Like/Digging In the Dirt/Sam Sings
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans. The
weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, not
necessarily in that order. Jack wants a word about yellow
cards and football and the way players talk for the
rest and really we've reset our climate targets. I think
(00:49):
they were a bit tricky, so we've made that that's tricky.
Sure will help save the world. The Pike River movie,
Melanie Lynsky seems to be involved with that, and musician
Sam Cullen comes in for a song. But before any
of that, R three six Andy get used to it.
I don't think it's going away.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, it's always been the case that you have to
play super rugby to play for the All Blacks. But
were you surprised that South Africa and Australia, who do
select overseas players for their test teams, have also said
they won't select three sixty players for international rugby.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
No, I'm not surprised. I think when all the unions
are looking at three sixty and thinking about the implications
of their players playing in it and the league establishing Devin.
We've had very, very minimal dialogue with the principles of
(01:52):
the proposed tournament. I think everybody's seeing threat at the
moment and a real challenge to the existing rugby business model.
So I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Could that threat over time become an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, we're open minded, right, but one of the challenges
at the moment is that most of the principles have
largely gone to ground. It's very difficult to get any
information or responses to questions.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So yeah, it seems to be wise spread panic about this,
and people seem to be surprisingly dismissive of it as well. Well.
I feel like these sorts of revolutions do take hold
more often than not. It did take a while for
T twenty to sort of get going, but once it did,
there was no stopping it. But I related more back
(02:50):
to things like you know iTunes, Apple music streaming. The
music industry tried to fight it, there was nothing they
could do, and then they were left in the dust.
The movie industry, TV industry tried to fight things, and
then there was nothing worse. It's like that, there's nothing
(03:13):
you could do, so you may as well figure out
how you're going to work with them, not against them.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
News Talk, Zeth Bean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Probably wrong about all of that. Why would you listen
to my views on sports when you could listen to
expert Jack Taine talking about yellow cards and football.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
By being so loosey goosey and allowing ten or a
dozen players to all get up in the ref's face
at once, they've ended up incentivizing histrionic behavior, you know
what I mean. Think about it, right, If a player
makes a heavy tackle and knows that they are probably
in the wrong, they now have to go up and
(03:53):
scream and yell and stamp their feet and make a
massive scene at their supposed cruel treatment because they know
that the other team will be making just as much
of a scene trying to get them punished. It's kind
of like an arms race, right. You have to match
your opponent's outrage, and that only incentivizes more and more
and more drama. It only incentivizes the whole team to
(04:16):
rush over to the referee. Football is, as far as
team sports go, near perfect. In my view, It is
such a wonderful sport. It is beautifully simple. The barriers
to entry are basically non existent. The scope for creativity
and flair is vast. But if there is one way
(04:38):
the beautiful game might be improved just a little bit,
I reckon it's the way that players treat the referee.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I would love to see that. Actually, I'd love to
see the ref send off half of each team when
they all get into those big shouting matches in both
teams sped left with all sort of five or six
players each other on the field wondering what to do,
especially if one of the players gets sent off as
a goalkeeper.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Great, you can use talks.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Okay, So yeah, combating climate change, it's turned out to
be really hard to try and save the planet or
in terms of you know, giving it habitable for human life.
The planet's not going anywhere obviously, So we've just decided
we'll just put it off a bit longer, get the
homework in a bit later.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Can you just clarify, so what's actually happening. You've changed
the targets by how much we're going to reduce by
Can you just explain the numbers and plan english for.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
Us yeah, absolutely. So currently the methane target for agriculture
in New Zealand is twenty four to forty seven percent,
and we've made a change today to a new target
which will be fourteen to twenty four percent and that'll
be by twenty fifty. Look, come, this is a pretty
(05:59):
landmark decision by government today. It's primarily going to provide
certainty to New zealand agricultural sector by resetting that target
for a ducks required by twenty fifty. We've done a
lot of conversation with the sector, the agricultural sector, who
are fully supportive of this change, and I've told us
pretty loud and clear that the current target that I've
(06:20):
noted there was unrealistic and also creates economic uncertainty. So
this decision today clarifies for the agricultural sector of New
Zealand what's the action required to meet our missions targets.
And importantly, the targets that were set have been informed
by science and also contribute towards our international commitments. They
are achievable, practical and fair and that's really really important
(06:45):
for our cultural sector, who are some of the best
in the world in terms of a carbon efficiency.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Yeah, I noticed. One of the comments is we've accepted
a range of advice. Cynics might just say you've picked
and chose, You've picked and chosen what suits you politically.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
No, look, that's absolutely not the case. We've worked very closely.
First and foremost, we did an independent scientific review which
made two recommendations, of which we've picked up both of those.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean, nobody really likes medicines, do they, But you're
still supposed to take it to help you get better.
So just going around asking people, are you're finding the
climate target's a bit hard, are you? And they go, yeah, yeah,
we are. Actually, Oh, we'll just move those It's a
bit like a doctor going, ah, you don't like the
(07:32):
side effects of those antibiotics, just leave it. Then you'll
probably come right by yourself eventually. Right now and out
of straight out of our digging in the dirt file
to find the places we got hurt. As Peter Gabriel
would say, the movie is it long awaited? This movie
about Pike River? Anyway? Melanie Lynskey one of our most
(07:55):
successful actors of all time, she's in it.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
How did you get involved in Pike River? What drew
you to the project and the role of Anna.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
I I'm trying to remember. It was so long ago now.
I think I got an email from Rob Saki as
the director, and I knew him years ago, and it
had been sometimes since we'd been in touch, so I
was wondering what it was about, and he, you know,
(08:25):
said he had this project. I got sent the script
and I just thought the script was so moving and beautiful.
I obviously knew of the Pike River tragedy, but the
script really really really enlightened me as to so much more.
And then just reading about the relationship between Anna and Sonya,
(08:47):
I just thought it was a very different and interesting
way to tell the story and the fact that these
two women helped each other through the worst time of
their lives, and I just I was sold. I thought
the script was beautiful. I was excited to work with Rob,
but then I was just like, oh, gosh, well, so
are they're going to get And then when there's started
(09:08):
to talk about Robin Milcolm, they just heaven like dreams
coming true. I've wanted to work with her for so long,
and she was even more wonderful than I anticipated, and
my hopes were very very high. So it was just
it was pretty great.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Are you are a dream team together?
Speaker 8 (09:25):
It is a masterclass in acting.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Wow, high praise from Francesca there, and she watches a
lot of stuff. I'm always amazing that where people find
the time to watch all this stuff. Everybody around me
seems to be watching stuff all the time, and I've
got this massive backlog of stuff to watch, and you know,
I'm busy, you know, taking the lights down off the deck,
(09:49):
so the guy's gonna wash it and stay in it,
and you know what's ending there? And were they just
paying that guy extra to do that for them so
they can find time to watch the Fike RYBN the movie?
I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sam Callen came in to see Jack Tame on Saturday
and they had an interview. But he kids about that
he played a song. Let's hear that instead.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Sam has brought his guitaring and.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We had a bit of a.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Sound chick, so I will let you introduce it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Sam.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
This is the same color. And thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Thanks Jack appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (10:28):
Thanks for talking. Let's call that somebody's you cheers. We
love songs and make quos when you're scared the truth,
and the truth is he needs somebody. Maybe that somebody
(10:48):
is you. Well, I was standing on the sideline. Yeah,
I'm just the world boy and maybe trying to buy
time it suspectator sport. Even if I could, I know
that I would not try to change it. Sing my
own word, stand on me, throw it all the way,
have another drink and take another d your eyes or
(11:13):
my fears beyond this ram party.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I quite like the sound of that, but it's hard
to believe. I'm I'm a fan of a person playing
guitar and singing. Usually that was sort of bordering on
sounding a little bit country, but I don't at the
rest of Sam stuff is feels so yeah. If you
(11:36):
if you like the sound of that, looking up Sam Cullen,
if you like the sound of this, look me up,
Glen Hart News Talks head Bean. It's out every day.
It's not really. It's out Monday to Friday. It's not
every day. And it's the same with the re wrap,
which is which is just like this, but it's mostly
about what my huskings said instead. Tune in for one
(11:59):
of those a little bit later on.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
See then used Talking door Bean for more from News
Talk said, be listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans. The
weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, not
necessarily in that order. Jack wants a word about yellow
cards and football and the way players talk for the
rest and really we've reset our climate targets. I think
(00:49):
they were a bit tricky, so we've made that that's tricky.
Sure will help save the world. The Pike River movie,
Melanie Lynsky seems to be involved with that, and musician
Sam Cullen comes in for a song. But before any
of that, R three six Andy get used to it.
I don't think it's going away.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, it's always been the case that you have to
play super rugby to play for the All Blacks. But
were you surprised that South Africa and Australia, who do
select overseas players for their test teams, have also said
they won't select three sixty players for international rugby.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
No, I'm not surprised. I think when all the unions
are looking at three sixty and thinking about the implications
of their players playing in it and the league establishing Devin.
We've had very, very minimal dialogue with the principles of
(01:52):
the proposed tournament. I think everybody's seeing threat at the
moment and a real challenge to the existing rugby business model.
So I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Could that threat over time become an opportunity.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Well, we're open minded, right, but one of the challenges
at the moment is that most of the principles have
largely gone to ground. It's very difficult to get any
information or responses to questions.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So yeah, it seems to be wise spread panic about this,
and people seem to be surprisingly dismissive of it as well. Well.
I feel like these sorts of revolutions do take hold
more often than not. It did take a while for
T twenty to sort of get going, but once it did,
there was no stopping it. But I related more back
(02:50):
to things like you know iTunes, Apple music streaming. The
music industry tried to fight it, there was nothing they
could do, and then they were left in the dust.
The movie industry, TV industry tried to fight things, and
then there was nothing worse. It's like that, there's nothing
(03:13):
you could do, so you may as well figure out
how you're going to work with them, not against them.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
News Talk, Zeth Bean, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Probably wrong about all of that. Why would you listen
to my views on sports when you could listen to
expert Jack Taine talking about yellow cards and football.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
By being so loosey goosey and allowing ten or a
dozen players to all get up in the ref's face
at once, they've ended up incentivizing histrionic behavior, you know
what I mean. Think about it, right, If a player
makes a heavy tackle and knows that they are probably
in the wrong, they now have to go up and
(03:53):
scream and yell and stamp their feet and make a
massive scene at their supposed cruel treatment because they know
that the other team will be making just as much
of a scene trying to get them punished. It's kind
of like an arms race, right. You have to match
your opponent's outrage, and that only incentivizes more and more
and more drama. It only incentivizes the whole team to
(04:16):
rush over to the referee. Football is, as far as
team sports go, near perfect. In my view, It is
such a wonderful sport. It is beautifully simple. The barriers
to entry are basically non existent. The scope for creativity
and flair is vast. But if there is one way
(04:38):
the beautiful game might be improved just a little bit,
I reckon it's the way that players treat the referee.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I would love to see that. Actually, I'd love to
see the ref send off half of each team when
they all get into those big shouting matches in both
teams sped left with all sort of five or six
players each other on the field wondering what to do,
especially if one of the players gets sent off as
a goalkeeper.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Great, you can use talks.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Okay, So yeah, combating climate change, it's turned out to
be really hard to try and save the planet or
in terms of you know, giving it habitable for human life.
The planet's not going anywhere obviously, So we've just decided
we'll just put it off a bit longer, get the
homework in a bit later.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Can you just clarify, so what's actually happening. You've changed
the targets by how much we're going to reduce by
Can you just explain the numbers and plan english for.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
Us yeah, absolutely. So currently the methane target for agriculture
in New Zealand is twenty four to forty seven percent,
and we've made a change today to a new target
which will be fourteen to twenty four percent and that'll
be by twenty fifty. Look, come, this is a pretty
(05:59):
landmark decision by government today. It's primarily going to provide
certainty to New zealand agricultural sector by resetting that target
for a ducks required by twenty fifty. We've done a
lot of conversation with the sector, the agricultural sector, who
are fully supportive of this change, and I've told us
pretty loud and clear that the current target that I've
(06:20):
noted there was unrealistic and also creates economic uncertainty. So
this decision today clarifies for the agricultural sector of New
Zealand what's the action required to meet our missions targets.
And importantly, the targets that were set have been informed
by science and also contribute towards our international commitments. They
are achievable, practical and fair and that's really really important
(06:45):
for our cultural sector, who are some of the best
in the world in terms of a carbon efficiency.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Yeah, I noticed. One of the comments is we've accepted
a range of advice. Cynics might just say you've picked
and chose, You've picked and chosen what suits you politically.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
No, look, that's absolutely not the case. We've worked very closely.
First and foremost, we did an independent scientific review which
made two recommendations, of which we've picked up both of those.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean, nobody really likes medicines, do they, But you're
still supposed to take it to help you get better.
So just going around asking people, are you're finding the
climate target's a bit hard, are you? And they go, yeah, yeah,
we are. Actually, Oh, we'll just move those It's a
bit like a doctor going, ah, you don't like the
(07:32):
side effects of those antibiotics, just leave it. Then you'll
probably come right by yourself eventually. Right now and out
of straight out of our digging in the dirt file
to find the places we got hurt. As Peter Gabriel
would say, the movie is it long awaited? This movie
about Pike River? Anyway? Melanie Lynskey one of our most
(07:55):
successful actors of all time, she's in it.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
How did you get involved in Pike River? What drew
you to the project and the role of Anna.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
I I'm trying to remember. It was so long ago now.
I think I got an email from Rob Saki as
the director, and I knew him years ago, and it
had been sometimes since we'd been in touch, so I
was wondering what it was about, and he, you know,
(08:25):
said he had this project. I got sent the script
and I just thought the script was so moving and beautiful.
I obviously knew of the Pike River tragedy, but the
script really really really enlightened me as to so much more.
And then just reading about the relationship between Anna and Sonya,
(08:47):
I just thought it was a very different and interesting
way to tell the story and the fact that these
two women helped each other through the worst time of
their lives, and I just I was sold. I thought
the script was beautiful. I was excited to work with Rob,
but then I was just like, oh, gosh, well, so
are they're going to get And then when there's started
(09:08):
to talk about Robin Milcolm, they just heaven like dreams
coming true. I've wanted to work with her for so long,
and she was even more wonderful than I anticipated, and
my hopes were very very high. So it was just
it was pretty great.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Are you are a dream team together?
Speaker 8 (09:25):
It is a masterclass in acting.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Wow, high praise from Francesca there, and she watches a
lot of stuff. I'm always amazing that where people find
the time to watch all this stuff. Everybody around me
seems to be watching stuff all the time, and I've
got this massive backlog of stuff to watch, and you know,
I'm busy, you know, taking the lights down off the deck,
(09:49):
so the guy's gonna wash it and stay in it,
and you know what's ending there? And were they just
paying that guy extra to do that for them so
they can find time to watch the Fike RYBN the movie?
I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sam Callen came in to see Jack Tame on Saturday
and they had an interview. But he kids about that
he played a song. Let's hear that instead.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Sam has brought his guitaring and.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We had a bit of a.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Sound chick, so I will let you introduce it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Sam.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
This is the same color. And thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Thanks Jack appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (10:28):
Thanks for talking. Let's call that somebody's you cheers. We
love songs and make quos when you're scared the truth,
and the truth is he needs somebody. Maybe that somebody
(10:48):
is you. Well, I was standing on the sideline. Yeah,
I'm just the world boy and maybe trying to buy
time it suspectator sport. Even if I could, I know
that I would not try to change it. Sing my
own word, stand on me, throw it all the way,
have another drink and take another d your eyes or
(11:13):
my fears beyond this ram party.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I quite like the sound of that, but it's hard
to believe. I'm I'm a fan of a person playing
guitar and singing. Usually that was sort of bordering on
sounding a little bit country, but I don't at the
rest of Sam stuff is feels so yeah. If you
(11:36):
if you like the sound of that, looking up Sam Cullen,
if you like the sound of this, look me up,
Glen Hart News Talks head Bean. It's out every day.
It's not really. It's out Monday to Friday. It's not
every day. And it's the same with the re wrap,
which is which is just like this, but it's mostly
about what my huskings said instead. Tune in for one
(11:59):
of those a little bit later on.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
See then used Talking door Bean for more from News
Talk said, be listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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