August 12, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Hard To Shake Once It Starts/What Are Rates Actually For?/We Keep Forgetting We Don't Matter/Pretend Ignorance/Getting Off the Socials
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news. Hi am Glen Haatton. We're looking
back at Tuesday. Gush. I've had a frustrating morning already
this morning. It's only four forty four am, and I've
already deleted everything several times by mistake. So frustrating. Honestly,
(00:45):
I'm this close to just packing it all in and
go home forever. Anyway, We'll see how this goes. We
need to talk about rapes, recognizing Palestine as a state.
Marcus wants to know how the voice works, which is
not what I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It was.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Not the voice. Marcus's about the voice and getting off
social media. But before any of that, people are actually
calling the Christopher Luxen to step down as leader of
the National Party.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Now, if this is really what National MPs are considering,
they should ditch that idea immediately because Luxein's not their problem.
I mean, he is a problem. There's no debate that.
With personal popularity setting at about twenty percent, he is
a drag on the National Party, but he is not
their actual problem. Their actual problem is that the economy
is stuffed and that they haven't yet figured out what
(01:41):
to do to fix it, even though they've had eighteen months.
And it really doesn't matter who the leader is, whether
it's Nikola or Chris Buship or Erica or Mark Mitchell
or Golden Balls, it doesn't matter. They still will not
have a plan for the economy now. If they're worried
about their polling right now, they should try playing the
game of musical leadership Leadership musical chairs and see what
(02:02):
happens to their polling then, because they're still not going
to have a plan for the economy. But then they'll
also have voters feeling like it's the shambles up the
top of the beehive and not sure what's going on there. Yes,
they have a problem, Yes you can see it in
the polls.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So fix it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Come up with a solution, Come up with a credible
plan for fixing the economy now and into the future.
That is where the nets should be directing their energy,
not into undermining chrys relux.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So tricky, isn't it? Once the sort of stink of leadership.
Just gruntlemen starts emanating from a party, it's very difficult
to spray that stink away. I was trying to make
that analogy go a little bit further than it did,
(02:47):
but it just sort of peed it out.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So let's move on us. Talk has it been why.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Is everybody having to pay more rates when the value
of our houses has gone down? I mean I know why,
because the councils have all grow still can't figure out
why this has suddenly become an issue.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
For a long time, those who have bothered to vote
in local body elections have voted for counselors who say,
we promise there'll be no rates rises, which means that
a lot of the work that counsels are doing has
been delayed because they haven't had the money. Because homeowners
(03:27):
rate payers have elected counselors that have promised there will
be no rates rises, but all that's doing is delaying
the inevitable. In part, we have brought this on ourself.
You vote for people who aren't going to increase rates.
You don't bother to vote, You don't bother to stand
for counsel And when I say you, I mean we.
(03:51):
So in part we've brought this on ourselves, and because
there haven't been the checks and balances to monitor the spending,
irresponsible councils have been able to do exactly as they wish,
vanity projects, wasteful ending, and those within the infrastructure of
(04:11):
council too have spent like drunken sailors. So I would
very much like to hear from those of you who
have received your rates bill. Around the country we've seen
massive The table shows, the published table that came out
a week or so ago shows which councils have had
the highest increases. Are you getting value for money from
(04:33):
your counsel and what on earth can you do about it?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And I've made my opinion very clear on this. They
just keep taking rubbish bands away. I don't know what
I've just got this mountain of dog poo and bags.
I don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's really hard living in Auckland. That's the kind of
stuff that we have to go through. But yeah, I
see you know all the women billboards are up everywhere now,
aren't they for the local body elections? And these people
you've got no idea who they are or in some
cases you do know who they are, and you're surprised
to see that they're running for council sort of ex
(05:16):
stand up comedians and karaoke singers and stuff like that.
I'm not even making this up, and you think, yeah,
they must have run out of things to do, or
their career hasn't worked out quite the way they hope.
Now they're going to give counsel a go anyway, And
then on the it's got their name and a picture
of them, and then underneath it all say something like
lower rates, and you think, how are you going to
(05:39):
do that? Seriously?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Do you talk sideen? All right?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Should we recognize Palestine? And even if we do, how
differences are going.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
To make Palestinians can be a nation, but that doesn't
mean land, and that's what you need to be a state.
And that is where the rubbut really hits the road.
It is hard to recognize a Palestinian state when there
is no land for it to belong.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
In.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Declaring a Palestinian state right now, though, would therefore be
a piece of global virtue, signaling a stance with little
or no practical application other than political pressure on Israel
and so New Zealand and its government has now been
accused of kicking the can down the road because it's
going to consider its position over the next month. And
to be fair, we are kicking the can down the road.
(06:25):
But this is a delicate move which, as I've said already,
on the outside seems so easy to many, but it's
still full of pitfalls, and it seems to be putting
the horse before the cart when we don't know where
the state would be in the world. And here's the
big thing. Would declaring a state actually put any food
(06:45):
in Palestinian belly?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It is odd, isn't it that here in New Zealand
we often think that we're going to make a difference
to the rest of the world when we were as
small as we are and we are as far away
from the acting as we are. I mean, good honest,
I suppose city right now. So I get sent in
(07:09):
this audio from Marcus's producer. Marcus wants to know how
the voice works, and I thought it never, even for
a moment, occurred to me that he was talking about
the TV show. I thought he was meaning the actual voice.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Could someone explain to me what is the point of
that game show? Is the fact that they see people
singing and they turn around to see if they're attractive.
Could someone explain to me what the whole point of
the spinning cheese is. I've looked at that and I've thought,
what the heck is going on there? Why do they spin?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
What does that add?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Is it like they're looking for a Susan Boyle type moment.
Are they looking for someone that doesn't look like their
sound or they're looking for something that does like the sound.
I really don't understand it. This is actually quite a
genuine question for me. If someone could answer that, that
would be great. Why do they spin around? And what's
the point of that show? I don't want it to
mean the town do to mean anything of it, but genuinely,
I don't understand what it's about. It's the voice and
(08:06):
there's four people in giant cheese and they push a
button and spin around and look at the person that's singing.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
So it's a very very genuine question for me, and
we've got to answer this before I can move on
with the other stuff, because it seems to me that
it's based on a weird premise. I'm not quite sure
if they're looking for someone with rock star looks or
quite what it is. So yes, if you can tell
me more about that, that would be of interest to me.
(08:35):
This is the Voice when they spin around often Ronanne Keating,
I think often mal C as well. Is she one
of the spy skills? I think so.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So this is a little for me. This is one
of those classic examples of the genius of Marcus, because
he knows the answers to all those questions. There's no
way that he doesn't know that Malc is a spy skull,
for example. And he also must know that a program
that's called The Voice has very little to do with
somebody having a rock star look or whatever it was
(09:05):
that he just said. Then pop star lock. That's the
whole point into it. They don't know what they look like.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's a bit like how people don't know what I
look like and then I meet them and they they
don't even try and hide their disappointment. Actually, it's quite
entertaining and also a bit depressing. Now social media, this
is why I'm not on It really quite difficult to
find a picture of me online, and I think my
(09:34):
life's better for it. I wonder if Peter's life is
better for it.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
After this happened, Peter, you went cold Turkey.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Yeah, accidentally, I was tired and I was laying in
bed and your phone in your hand and scroll in
Facebook reels and then just to fall asleep, and then
I woke to these messages that for somehow I managed
to go live on Facebook. Awkward and by sleep and
(10:05):
you're very awkward. It was Nostril since day. I don't
scroll the same night, I'll watch a movie until I'm
all asleep or whatever. But it was deleted very quickly,
and the makeset saw it. I just got shit for
(10:28):
it to come out some birthday.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
That's Peter.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
So you know, go live and then that'll that'll get
you off the doom stole. So yeah, absolutely make its axious, inconvenient.
Leave it home when you're going for walk, leave it
in the car when you're watching the kids play sport,
you know, leave it in the other room. Don't take
it into your bedroom. You know, that's that's that's the
best way to fight it. Otherwise it might just erase
your brain. And look, everyone else is becoming dumb from
(10:57):
doing it, So whyn't give yourself an advantage in life
by not joining them?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I get criticized for not following people I know on
social media. Happened again just last night. Yeah, didn't you
see somebody's so and say his post on this for
their picture or whatever? And I said, no, I don't
even how would I know? Yeah, because to me, getting
(11:24):
the odd picture of somebody doing something cool is not
worth all the other grief and misery that's floating the
flots them and gets them, and well, let's be honest, Shit,
it's floating around out there. I'm not interested and that,
and you can't seem to have one without the other.
(11:44):
So yeah, I just I really don't engage. But I
don't make a big thing about it. A lot of
people do, a lot of people are like, you know,
reformed alcoholics or drug addicts. Yeah, they can't shut the
hell up about it. But yeah, I do hear people,
(12:06):
you know, complaining about how to press the online forums
of mazing memos. They've heard this, heard that we don't
good enough of that stuff. Sitting here in the studio
watching three TVs on different news networks, the last thing
I need is more of that. When I get home,
I'm coming out on my phone.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Cheapers brief us.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Anyway, Thanks, for responding to the links of this that
was posted on social media. To get here, Please like, subscribe,
and share it on all your feeds. We'll see you
back here again. Worried Yeah yeah that was That was
me being ironic. Come on, guys, but do do that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Use talks talks it beam for more from News Talk
sat B.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Listen live on air or online, and
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said Bee
follow this and our wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news. Hi am Glen Haatton. We're looking
back at Tuesday. Gush. I've had a frustrating morning already
this morning. It's only four forty four am, and I've
already deleted everything several times by mistake. So frustrating. Honestly,
(00:45):
I'm this close to just packing it all in and
go home forever. Anyway, We'll see how this goes. We
need to talk about rapes, recognizing Palestine as a state.
Marcus wants to know how the voice works, which is
not what I thought.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It was.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Not the voice. Marcus's about the voice and getting off
social media. But before any of that, people are actually
calling the Christopher Luxen to step down as leader of
the National Party.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Now, if this is really what National MPs are considering,
they should ditch that idea immediately because Luxein's not their problem.
I mean, he is a problem. There's no debate that.
With personal popularity setting at about twenty percent, he is
a drag on the National Party, but he is not
their actual problem. Their actual problem is that the economy
is stuffed and that they haven't yet figured out what
(01:41):
to do to fix it, even though they've had eighteen months.
And it really doesn't matter who the leader is, whether
it's Nikola or Chris Buship or Erica or Mark Mitchell
or Golden Balls, it doesn't matter. They still will not
have a plan for the economy now. If they're worried
about their polling right now, they should try playing the
game of musical leadership Leadership musical chairs and see what
(02:02):
happens to their polling then, because they're still not going
to have a plan for the economy. But then they'll
also have voters feeling like it's the shambles up the
top of the beehive and not sure what's going on there. Yes,
they have a problem, Yes you can see it in
the polls.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
So fix it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Come up with a solution, Come up with a credible
plan for fixing the economy now and into the future.
That is where the nets should be directing their energy,
not into undermining chrys relux.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So tricky, isn't it? Once the sort of stink of leadership.
Just gruntlemen starts emanating from a party, it's very difficult
to spray that stink away. I was trying to make
that analogy go a little bit further than it did,
(02:47):
but it just sort of peed it out.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So let's move on us. Talk has it been why.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Is everybody having to pay more rates when the value
of our houses has gone down? I mean I know why,
because the councils have all grow still can't figure out
why this has suddenly become an issue.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
For a long time, those who have bothered to vote
in local body elections have voted for counselors who say,
we promise there'll be no rates rises, which means that
a lot of the work that counsels are doing has
been delayed because they haven't had the money. Because homeowners
(03:27):
rate payers have elected counselors that have promised there will
be no rates rises, but all that's doing is delaying
the inevitable. In part, we have brought this on ourself.
You vote for people who aren't going to increase rates.
You don't bother to vote, You don't bother to stand
for counsel And when I say you, I mean we.
(03:51):
So in part we've brought this on ourselves, and because
there haven't been the checks and balances to monitor the spending,
irresponsible councils have been able to do exactly as they wish,
vanity projects, wasteful ending, and those within the infrastructure of
(04:11):
council too have spent like drunken sailors. So I would
very much like to hear from those of you who
have received your rates bill. Around the country we've seen
massive The table shows, the published table that came out
a week or so ago shows which councils have had
the highest increases. Are you getting value for money from
(04:33):
your counsel and what on earth can you do about it?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
And I've made my opinion very clear on this. They
just keep taking rubbish bands away. I don't know what
I've just got this mountain of dog poo and bags.
I don't know what to do with it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's really hard living in Auckland. That's the kind of
stuff that we have to go through. But yeah, I
see you know all the women billboards are up everywhere now,
aren't they for the local body elections? And these people
you've got no idea who they are or in some
cases you do know who they are, and you're surprised
to see that they're running for council sort of ex
(05:16):
stand up comedians and karaoke singers and stuff like that.
I'm not even making this up, and you think, yeah,
they must have run out of things to do, or
their career hasn't worked out quite the way they hope.
Now they're going to give counsel a go anyway, And
then on the it's got their name and a picture
of them, and then underneath it all say something like
lower rates, and you think, how are you going to
(05:39):
do that? Seriously?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Do you talk sideen? All right?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Should we recognize Palestine? And even if we do, how
differences are going.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
To make Palestinians can be a nation, but that doesn't
mean land, and that's what you need to be a state.
And that is where the rubbut really hits the road.
It is hard to recognize a Palestinian state when there
is no land for it to belong.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
In.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Declaring a Palestinian state right now, though, would therefore be
a piece of global virtue, signaling a stance with little
or no practical application other than political pressure on Israel
and so New Zealand and its government has now been
accused of kicking the can down the road because it's
going to consider its position over the next month. And
to be fair, we are kicking the can down the road.
(06:25):
But this is a delicate move which, as I've said already,
on the outside seems so easy to many, but it's
still full of pitfalls, and it seems to be putting
the horse before the cart when we don't know where
the state would be in the world. And here's the
big thing. Would declaring a state actually put any food
(06:45):
in Palestinian belly?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It is odd, isn't it that here in New Zealand
we often think that we're going to make a difference
to the rest of the world when we were as
small as we are and we are as far away
from the acting as we are. I mean, good honest,
I suppose city right now. So I get sent in
(07:09):
this audio from Marcus's producer. Marcus wants to know how
the voice works, and I thought it never, even for
a moment, occurred to me that he was talking about
the TV show. I thought he was meaning the actual voice.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Could someone explain to me what is the point of
that game show? Is the fact that they see people
singing and they turn around to see if they're attractive.
Could someone explain to me what the whole point of
the spinning cheese is. I've looked at that and I've thought,
what the heck is going on there? Why do they spin?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
What does that add?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Is it like they're looking for a Susan Boyle type moment.
Are they looking for someone that doesn't look like their
sound or they're looking for something that does like the sound.
I really don't understand it. This is actually quite a
genuine question for me. If someone could answer that, that
would be great. Why do they spin around? And what's
the point of that show? I don't want it to
mean the town do to mean anything of it, but genuinely,
I don't understand what it's about. It's the voice and
(08:06):
there's four people in giant cheese and they push a
button and spin around and look at the person that's singing.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
So it's a very very genuine question for me, and
we've got to answer this before I can move on
with the other stuff, because it seems to me that
it's based on a weird premise. I'm not quite sure
if they're looking for someone with rock star looks or
quite what it is. So yes, if you can tell
me more about that, that would be of interest to me.
(08:35):
This is the Voice when they spin around often Ronanne Keating,
I think often mal C as well. Is she one
of the spy skills? I think so.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So this is a little for me. This is one
of those classic examples of the genius of Marcus, because
he knows the answers to all those questions. There's no
way that he doesn't know that Malc is a spy skull,
for example. And he also must know that a program
that's called The Voice has very little to do with
somebody having a rock star look or whatever it was
(09:05):
that he just said. Then pop star lock. That's the
whole point into it. They don't know what they look like.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's a bit like how people don't know what I
look like and then I meet them and they they
don't even try and hide their disappointment. Actually, it's quite
entertaining and also a bit depressing. Now social media, this
is why I'm not on It really quite difficult to
find a picture of me online, and I think my
(09:34):
life's better for it. I wonder if Peter's life is
better for it.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
After this happened, Peter, you went cold Turkey.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Yeah, accidentally, I was tired and I was laying in
bed and your phone in your hand and scroll in
Facebook reels and then just to fall asleep, and then
I woke to these messages that for somehow I managed
to go live on Facebook. Awkward and by sleep and
(10:05):
you're very awkward. It was Nostril since day. I don't
scroll the same night, I'll watch a movie until I'm
all asleep or whatever. But it was deleted very quickly,
and the makeset saw it. I just got shit for
(10:28):
it to come out some birthday.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
That's Peter.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
So you know, go live and then that'll that'll get
you off the doom stole. So yeah, absolutely make its axious, inconvenient.
Leave it home when you're going for walk, leave it
in the car when you're watching the kids play sport,
you know, leave it in the other room. Don't take
it into your bedroom. You know, that's that's that's the
best way to fight it. Otherwise it might just erase
your brain. And look, everyone else is becoming dumb from
(10:57):
doing it, So whyn't give yourself an advantage in life
by not joining them?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I get criticized for not following people I know on
social media. Happened again just last night. Yeah, didn't you
see somebody's so and say his post on this for
their picture or whatever? And I said, no, I don't
even how would I know? Yeah, because to me, getting
(11:24):
the odd picture of somebody doing something cool is not
worth all the other grief and misery that's floating the
flots them and gets them, and well, let's be honest, Shit,
it's floating around out there. I'm not interested and that,
and you can't seem to have one without the other.
(11:44):
So yeah, I just I really don't engage. But I
don't make a big thing about it. A lot of
people do, a lot of people are like, you know,
reformed alcoholics or drug addicts. Yeah, they can't shut the
hell up about it. But yeah, I do hear people,
(12:06):
you know, complaining about how to press the online forums
of mazing memos. They've heard this, heard that we don't
good enough of that stuff. Sitting here in the studio
watching three TVs on different news networks, the last thing
I need is more of that. When I get home,
I'm coming out on my phone.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Cheapers brief us.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Anyway, Thanks, for responding to the links of this that
was posted on social media. To get here, Please like, subscribe,
and share it on all your feeds. We'll see you
back here again. Worried Yeah yeah that was That was
me being ironic. Come on, guys, but do do that.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Use talks talks it beam for more from News Talk
sat B.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Listen live on air or online, and
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio.
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