October 7, 2024 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Grave Concerns Over New Host/Our Navy Is Pretty Funny/Fast Track at All Costs/Some Kind of Sandbag Service
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio, Used.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Talk sid be you Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Monday, and obviously we needed to
discuss the Manawanui, the former New Zealand Navy ship now
diving attraction, possibly fast tracking as fast as.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We thought it was, and is it as easy as
we thought it was?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And Marcus has got a little drive by on Christopher
Luxon at the end of.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The podcast for you. We'll just squeeze that in at
the end.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
At the beginning, it's welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Matt Heath.
I'm not going to welcome Tyler Adams. He's been around
for ages. But yes, we've got a new afternoon show
line up for you.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I've been on Radio Hodeki for fourteen years, eleven on
the Met and Jerry Show with Jeremy Wells and Maniah
and Manyah when I was on the ACC and Mashi
Yes Mashian Ruda and that finished on Friday, so we
had a massive weekend celebrating the end of that show,
which was a fantastic time.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I heard about the speeches. What there was about ninety
speeches over the course of the night.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It was like being at your funeral but still being live.
And it was good to find out that people like me,
because I'd always suspected they might not. It was pray Goes.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I know you love.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I love a good bit of prey Goes.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What did you order? I had the bolognaise I was
sitting a base for the celebrations. But I'm back and
I'm very excited about doing the show together. Yeah, and
I'm looking forward to to talk back. I've never done
talkback before, so I'm excited for you.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Matt.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It'll be it's new to me and that's going to
be challenged, so I imagine I'll get better and better at
it over time.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There's some lovely ticks coming through for your already mate fantas.
We can't read most of them out because they're from
your your fans at the other station, but that fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
A little bit about what we're going to bring to
the show, and look, we're going to try and keep
it tight. There'll be some parts that'll be a bit
loosey goosey. But you're a well read man. You're very
knowledgeable when it comes to news. Sometimes you take it
to some weird places sometimes, and nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's a good thing. Well, look, all I can be
is me, and all you can be is you, and
all everyone listening can be is them, and we'll all
get together and all make some kind of radio show
in the afternoons on your news TALKSI BYEP and how
good is that?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'll be me and you be you?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Go. It sounds like a recipe for disaster. This is
going to be a disaster. People being themselves and then
respecting other people's right to be themselves disaster.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, this is going to work at all news talk it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Right, speaking of disasters. So we're one ship down in
the navy.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But that's war, isn't it. I Hang on, We're not
at war, but.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
We have so many whys. How comes We've just lost
our first navy vessel since World War II, worth one
hundred billion bucks, just gone up and smoke sank to
the bottom of the ocean. Why did the money who
hit a reef? Was it human error? Was it mechanical? Failure.
What happened on the bridge in the moments leading up
to the collision. Where was the officer of the watch?
(03:26):
Were there no alarms that sound before something like this happens.
Was it the weather? Why was it surveying so close
to a known reef at night? Why did it catch fire?
We have so many questions and so far zero answers.
We know the sea was rough, the wind was strong,
but that's about it. The Navy and the minister both
say we'll wait for a court of inquiry. But is
that good enough. Surely they have some idea of what
(03:48):
went wrong by now? What's the harm in the public
knowing what happened? Can we not handle the truth? We've
been here before, remember the entire islander grounding. There were
crickets until New Zealand first started tweeting up a storm.
We learned from the Northland Pylon debarcle that officials pretty
much knew straight away what went wrong, but we wait
(04:10):
for inquiries and reports and courts to tell us the
truth months later. This, I think is more media management
than investigation integrity. And the problem with this strategy is
the void gets filled with a bunch of speculation rather
than facts, at least as established thus far, and a
(04:34):
little bit of accuracy, a little bit of accurate information
is surely better than a whole bunch of the officer
ah see.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And again I'm a bit worried about the direction that
news to zb's taking here.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Don't we just want groundless speculation? Isn't that more fun
than hard facts?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Qu's talk, zibbin.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm sure Anthonia Fax filled through to the Drive show
by the time that happened yesterday, and Dictain would have
been all over.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
This In just two weeks.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Leaders from across the Commonwealth's fifty six member nations and yeah,
King Charles are going to be meeting for the biennial
Choggham meeting in you guessed it some more. You hate
to think what sight seeing those leaders might do if
they have a couple of hours spare time.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So what now?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I just think it's absolutely critical, like vitally important important
that we do everything humanly possible to reduce the environmental
impact of this accident. Everything, every bit of kit we
have available needs to be used, every resource needs to
be thrown at this and most importantly, there cannot be
(05:45):
any quibbling over the cost of the response and recovery
and recovery. We have to sincerely do the right thing
by some more and obviously that is not going to
come cheap. As much of the world pause resources into
defense assets time and again, New Zealand's are proving unfit
for purpose, whether it is the woeful state of defense
(06:06):
force housing, the perennial stranded seven five sevens or now
the Manuanui. The credibility of our defense force has taken
an almighty battering in the last few years. But as
we respond to this crisis, the credibility of our nation
is on the line too, and we had better step up.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Or and this is just a suggestion, could we go
a bit sort of RESTRB style, lean into being the
country that doesn't have a maybe that can keep it
ships afloat for comedy value and get a bit of
a reputation to that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
H just a suggestion, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So we got some more details. You stay on how
exactly the fast tracking process works, Which projects get approved,
which would I just stay on the slow track, I
presume is that what happens with them?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
How on earth do we think we are going to
survive and thrive as a country without building stuff and
it's not all mines. It's not well as the Green's angle.
It's just a trojan horse, isn't it. They're putting in
a few renewables that would be twenty two so they
(07:26):
can get the mining underway. Well, somebody has to mine.
If we don't do it, we buy it from somewhere else.
Is that so much better? I hate that aspect of
the Greens. Hollier than now stance. We don't do it, yeah,
but we buy it from somewhere else. No, let's get cracking.
(07:51):
I mean when we say fast tracked too, as I outlined,
it's not going to be at the speed of light.
Let's face it. There is still a process to go through.
There will still be curbs put on what developers can do.
They still have to find the money. But at least
(08:12):
it's a start, isn't it. And at least there's a
fundamental understanding on the part of government that things have
to be done in this country. Not pine the sky projects,
not dream time projects, that actual real stuff. There's a plan,
(08:32):
there's a process, let's get on with it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's a mindset thing, isn't it. We want people to
find reasons to do things and ways to do things
rather than trying to come up with reasons not to
do things and to stop things. I just do have
this slightly nagging feeling and beat down in my gut
(08:57):
that somewhere down the line, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not
next year, but you know, at the end of the century,
when we're living in a mad Max style post apocalyptic world,
that we might come to regret.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't know doing that. Frog, it's only frogs Willians.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Move on News Talk zaid Bean, It's.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Time for that promised little gri fi that I promised you.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right at the top of the.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Podcast, Marcus heard what Christopher Luxey had to say about
Dunedin and he wasn't happy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
We're talking about the flooding.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
The one thing that I thought kind of.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Stuck in my craw a bit is that.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Chris Luxon said to christ Christopher lux and Chris Luckson
said that the whole situation and then everyone coped very
well with the emergency and everyone went to the resources
were there and everything. I still feel of remindful that
call we had on Friday night for that eighty five
year old. They had to drive off and get him
(10:08):
off a lot of sandbags and I'm thinking of sand
begging is going to become a more regular thing. There
needs to be people to help out the elder and
people are that for sand begging, particularly in South and
Eedland sort of people in their eighties can't be expected
to fill up sandbags and reinforce their house.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
There needs to be a service provided for that.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So I was surprised about that.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You don't want oldies who going to sort their own sandbags, really,
do you?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Is there a way?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
My mum's going through the process of getting one of
those Saint John's personal alarms, you know, so if you're
all over between the bed and the shower, you push
the button and you know they'll come, and they know
(10:57):
where the keys and outside, and they can get into
the house without breaking the door down.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It can help you.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I just wonder if that's is that a service that
there's St John's people can have a couple of sandbags
and the endo.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Already their job, is it. I'm just look, I'm just
trying to come up with ideas here.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know, we're fast track and we're moving forward with
kicking ass, and boy boy, that'll mean that tomorrow will
get here sooner and more efficiently than ever.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I'll see you then.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
News Talks Talking sid Bean. For more from News Talk
said b. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio, Used.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Talk sid be you Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Monday, and obviously we needed to
discuss the Manawanui, the former New Zealand Navy ship now
diving attraction, possibly fast tracking as fast as.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We thought it was, and is it as easy as
we thought it was?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And Marcus has got a little drive by on Christopher
Luxon at the end of.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The podcast for you. We'll just squeeze that in at
the end.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
At the beginning, it's welcome, Welcome, Welcome to Matt Heath.
I'm not going to welcome Tyler Adams. He's been around
for ages. But yes, we've got a new afternoon show
line up for you.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I've been on Radio Hodeki for fourteen years, eleven on
the Met and Jerry Show with Jeremy Wells and Maniah
and Manyah when I was on the ACC and Mashi
Yes Mashian Ruda and that finished on Friday, so we
had a massive weekend celebrating the end of that show,
which was a fantastic time.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
I heard about the speeches. What there was about ninety
speeches over the course of the night.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
It was like being at your funeral but still being live.
And it was good to find out that people like me,
because I'd always suspected they might not. It was pray Goes.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I know you love.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
I love a good bit of prey Goes.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What did you order? I had the bolognaise I was
sitting a base for the celebrations. But I'm back and
I'm very excited about doing the show together. Yeah, and
I'm looking forward to to talk back. I've never done
talkback before, so I'm excited for you.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Matt.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It'll be it's new to me and that's going to
be challenged, so I imagine I'll get better and better at
it over time.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
There's some lovely ticks coming through for your already mate fantas.
We can't read most of them out because they're from
your your fans at the other station, but that fantastic.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
A little bit about what we're going to bring to
the show, and look, we're going to try and keep
it tight. There'll be some parts that'll be a bit
loosey goosey. But you're a well read man. You're very
knowledgeable when it comes to news. Sometimes you take it
to some weird places sometimes, and nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's a good thing. Well, look, all I can be
is me, and all you can be is you, and
all everyone listening can be is them, and we'll all
get together and all make some kind of radio show
in the afternoons on your news TALKSI BYEP and how
good is that?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'll be me and you be you?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Go. It sounds like a recipe for disaster. This is
going to be a disaster. People being themselves and then
respecting other people's right to be themselves disaster.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, this is going to work at all news talk it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Right, speaking of disasters. So we're one ship down in
the navy.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But that's war, isn't it. I Hang on, We're not
at war, but.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
We have so many whys. How comes We've just lost
our first navy vessel since World War II, worth one
hundred billion bucks, just gone up and smoke sank to
the bottom of the ocean. Why did the money who
hit a reef? Was it human error? Was it mechanical? Failure.
What happened on the bridge in the moments leading up
to the collision. Where was the officer of the watch?
(03:26):
Were there no alarms that sound before something like this happens.
Was it the weather? Why was it surveying so close
to a known reef at night? Why did it catch fire?
We have so many questions and so far zero answers.
We know the sea was rough, the wind was strong,
but that's about it. The Navy and the minister both
say we'll wait for a court of inquiry. But is
that good enough. Surely they have some idea of what
(03:48):
went wrong by now? What's the harm in the public
knowing what happened? Can we not handle the truth? We've
been here before, remember the entire islander grounding. There were
crickets until New Zealand first started tweeting up a storm.
We learned from the Northland Pylon debarcle that officials pretty
much knew straight away what went wrong, but we wait
(04:10):
for inquiries and reports and courts to tell us the
truth months later. This, I think is more media management
than investigation integrity. And the problem with this strategy is
the void gets filled with a bunch of speculation rather
than facts, at least as established thus far, and a
(04:34):
little bit of accuracy, a little bit of accurate information
is surely better than a whole bunch of the officer
ah see.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And again I'm a bit worried about the direction that
news to zb's taking here.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Don't we just want groundless speculation? Isn't that more fun
than hard facts?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Qu's talk, zibbin.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm sure Anthonia Fax filled through to the Drive show
by the time that happened yesterday, and Dictain would have
been all over.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
This In just two weeks.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Leaders from across the Commonwealth's fifty six member nations and yeah,
King Charles are going to be meeting for the biennial
Choggham meeting in you guessed it some more. You hate
to think what sight seeing those leaders might do if
they have a couple of hours spare time.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
So what now?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I just think it's absolutely critical, like vitally important important
that we do everything humanly possible to reduce the environmental
impact of this accident. Everything, every bit of kit we
have available needs to be used, every resource needs to
be thrown at this and most importantly, there cannot be
(05:45):
any quibbling over the cost of the response and recovery
and recovery. We have to sincerely do the right thing
by some more and obviously that is not going to
come cheap. As much of the world pause resources into
defense assets time and again, New Zealand's are proving unfit
for purpose, whether it is the woeful state of defense
(06:06):
force housing, the perennial stranded seven five sevens or now
the Manuanui. The credibility of our defense force has taken
an almighty battering in the last few years. But as
we respond to this crisis, the credibility of our nation
is on the line too, and we had better step up.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Or and this is just a suggestion, could we go
a bit sort of RESTRB style, lean into being the
country that doesn't have a maybe that can keep it
ships afloat for comedy value and get a bit of
a reputation to that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
H just a suggestion, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So we got some more details. You stay on how
exactly the fast tracking process works, Which projects get approved,
which would I just stay on the slow track, I
presume is that what happens with them?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
How on earth do we think we are going to
survive and thrive as a country without building stuff and
it's not all mines. It's not well as the Green's angle.
It's just a trojan horse, isn't it. They're putting in
a few renewables that would be twenty two so they
(07:26):
can get the mining underway. Well, somebody has to mine.
If we don't do it, we buy it from somewhere else.
Is that so much better? I hate that aspect of
the Greens. Hollier than now stance. We don't do it, yeah,
but we buy it from somewhere else. No, let's get cracking.
(07:51):
I mean when we say fast tracked too, as I outlined,
it's not going to be at the speed of light.
Let's face it. There is still a process to go through.
There will still be curbs put on what developers can do.
They still have to find the money. But at least
(08:12):
it's a start, isn't it. And at least there's a
fundamental understanding on the part of government that things have
to be done in this country. Not pine the sky projects,
not dream time projects, that actual real stuff. There's a plan,
(08:32):
there's a process, let's get on with it.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's a mindset thing, isn't it. We want people to
find reasons to do things and ways to do things
rather than trying to come up with reasons not to
do things and to stop things. I just do have
this slightly nagging feeling and beat down in my gut
(08:57):
that somewhere down the line, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not
next year, but you know, at the end of the century,
when we're living in a mad Max style post apocalyptic world,
that we might come to regret.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I don't know doing that. Frog, it's only frogs Willians.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Move on News Talk zaid Bean, It's.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Time for that promised little gri fi that I promised you.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Right at the top of the.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Podcast, Marcus heard what Christopher Luxey had to say about
Dunedin and he wasn't happy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
We're talking about the flooding.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
The one thing that I thought kind of.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Stuck in my craw a bit is that.
Speaker 9 (09:46):
Chris Luxon said to christ Christopher lux and Chris Luckson
said that the whole situation and then everyone coped very
well with the emergency and everyone went to the resources
were there and everything. I still feel of remindful that
call we had on Friday night for that eighty five
year old. They had to drive off and get him
(10:08):
off a lot of sandbags and I'm thinking of sand
begging is going to become a more regular thing. There
needs to be people to help out the elder and
people are that for sand begging, particularly in South and
Eedland sort of people in their eighties can't be expected
to fill up sandbags and reinforce their house.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
There needs to be a service provided for that.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
So I was surprised about that.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You don't want oldies who going to sort their own sandbags, really,
do you?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Is there a way?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
My mum's going through the process of getting one of
those Saint John's personal alarms, you know, so if you're
all over between the bed and the shower, you push
the button and you know they'll come, and they know
(10:57):
where the keys and outside, and they can get into
the house without breaking the door down.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It can help you.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I just wonder if that's is that a service that
there's St John's people can have a couple of sandbags
and the endo.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Already their job, is it. I'm just look, I'm just
trying to come up with ideas here.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know, we're fast track and we're moving forward with
kicking ass, and boy boy, that'll mean that tomorrow will
get here sooner and more efficiently than ever.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And I'll see you then.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
News Talks Talking sid Bean. For more from News Talk
said b. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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