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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
weekend edition. First with yesterday's news, we're looking back at
both Sunday and Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
See that's it's like a weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The rand Philly Shield goes to the Marcos for the
first time when they haven't been around that long. But yeah, still,
Jack wants to talk about being stuck in space. Francesca
wants to have a word about us being the earliest
diners in the world. Does that actually make us the
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most boring people in the will as well? And then
we'll meet a bad guy who's a good who was
a good guy but then became a bad guy. I
think he's a good guy. I just think that the
carac he's playing in the Lord of the Rings TV
show was good and then got bad. I think that's
what's happening anyway, Before any of that, the capital gains tax,
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this is what labor seems to be bleeding on about.
Of course, it's never going to happen because they're not
in charge of anything. Anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Where are you at worth?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
And why with having a look at wealth and capital
gains taxes, Well.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
We said that we think we need to broaden New
Zealand's tax base. So at the moment, if you look
at where government gets most of it's money from, it
gets most of its money from two forms of tax.
One is GST that's the smaller of the two, and
the second and the largest is pay tax, So pay
as you earn tax. It's the tax that gets deducted
from your salary and your wages, of your salary and
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wage urner and that's where the government gets a vast
bulk of its money from. And we use that to
pay for healthy education, housing, welfare, superannuation, you name it, defense, police,
you know everything the government does. We buy in large
fund it through those two main taxes that we do.
You compare newse them into other countries around the world,
including the countries that we compare ourselves with a lot.
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We're pretty unusual in that regard. Most will have other
forms of tax and other forms of revenue in addition
to those ones, and we don't. And that means that
salary and wage journals tend to pay a higher rate
of tax as a result of that, And it also
means that successive governments, including our government the previous national government,
have not adjusted income tax brackets when inflation and wages
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have pushed up prices and pushed up wages.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I mean, I suppose this is interesting because it seems
to be a debate that's going on all over the
world at the moment. Seems to be an election issue
in the States. Labor seems to be in trouble in
the UK because they said they wouldn't weren't going to
put up taxes and have new taxes, and yet it
looks like that's their main srenity going forward now because
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they've suddenly discovered that the economy was way worse than
they thought it was.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It sounds for a movie, doesn't it so? But yeah, boy, tax,
it's pretty dry news talks. It been what as.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Much more exciting as the Randomilly shield even now it is,
although as Darcy's allegation that they were out all night celebrating,
does that still hold up?
Speaker 5 (03:25):
How your head must have been a big night last night.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yeah, it was a great night.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
We're just at the airport about to get on a
flight back to back home.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
So now the boys are in good spirits.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Ay, it's awesome.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
The end of the game. I know another colleague of
mine just about turn the TV off, he again as
a Marco fan, and he was going, I can't cope
with us. But the end was it was tough of tough,
and nail wasn't who went in there and caused the
ruckers as they were trying to basically hang on to
the ball and defend that lead the penalty. You basically
ran straight and grabbed the ball, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, it's awesome, Like we we actually trained that simulation
a lot, trying to to get the ball back with
a minute to go. So we have a play that
we try to do. We get gym in there and
it works, so we trained it and then yeah, I knew.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I knew it was in my range when I seen
where he.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Got it from. So but it's awesome, like the boys
backed me straight away. When you get that from the teammates,
you know you have the confidence to have a shot.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So I was pretty pretty happy that it went over over.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Obviously the same diamond of my sport watching habits and
preferences these days that the first I knew about this
was on the family chat on WhatsApp. One of my
siblings said, did you watch the rugby, to which I replied,
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what what rugby talk?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Sippy?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's the matter with you, glensib Are you living in
another world?
Speaker 8 (05:00):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, I'm just here on Earth. However, Jack sounds like
he's pretty keen to leave it.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
What's the longest commercial flight you've been on? Just for
context sake, to try and compare ourselves to Butcher and
Soon you see, mine was about seventeen hours. Obviously, a
commercial passenger flight is more cramped and less interesting than
a few laps on the International Space station. But in
this smart phone age, nothing has more thoroughly convinced me
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that I don't have the necessary attention span or temperament
for long stints in one place, like a twelve hour
stopover in a lower tier international airport. So boring news
slash Jack Tame would struggle in prison. The good news
is that Butcher and soon He can talk to their families,
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They can do a bit of exercise, they can socialize
with other astronauts, and presumably NASA stumps for a Netflix subscription.
But the one thing they can't do easily is return
to Earth. And you can imagine that even for the
elite of the elite. It's the kind of situation that
does funny things to your head. So would you do it?
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Would you? Would you go knowing that a week on
the space station could become the best part of a
year or longer. Would you leave your family? Would you
leave your life? Leave your cat, your goldfish, leave the
lawns to someone else's care? No wind in your hear,
no smell of fresh rain, no scrambled eggs that didn't
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come in a packet. I would. I'd do it. I
would still leap at the chance. Still, I reckon one
trip might be enough.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I quite like the idea of being weightless. That sounds relaxing,
although it turns out there are a lot of health
problems that come along. They're going to need a lot
of rehabilitation by the time they get back to Earth.
Those two I was talking to a friend of mine
over the weekend who works for an ophthalmologist, and he
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was saying that, like, the blood vessels in your eyes
stop working properly after extended periods in weightlessness, and they
have to give themselves eye surgery out there basically so
they don't go blind or something. It's complicated business, isn't
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it being in space? They don't talk about that much
in the alien movies. Okay, if you see the alien
because my blood vessels have exploded sitting right.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
So it turns out we are just so boring.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Because we want to go out to dinner and be
home by about seven thirty?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Is there anything wrong with that?
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Asking diners why people like to eat early from say
five pm, and the answers raged from simply being hungry,
to having their evening to do other things, to getting
home early and giving the meal time to digest. So
what does this say about us?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Are we just boring?
Speaker 6 (08:10):
A kiw's boring? It does reflect something I think about
the lives we're leading. I think we want to head
home as soon as we can, to kick off our
shoes and binge another Netflix series. I think it's a
reflection of how busy we are. Why go home and
struggle to find the energy to leave the house again
when we can eat dinner on the way home. People
are a little bit more health conscious. Going out for
dinner doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna get on it and
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make a night of it. It means you might head out,
enjoy a meal, maybe have a drink or two or
not at all, and get out of there with plenty
of time for your meal to digest and give you
sixteen hours of fasting before you eat again. I know
that's important to some of you. Culturally, we have always
eaten early. If you head it out for dinner in
the nineteen sixties, you generally had to be seated between
six and seven thirty pm. Those were the rules of
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virtually every hotel in New Zealand. Sin seems like nothing
has changed. So long gone is the idea of booking
a table for eight or eight thirty pm and settling
in for the evening. And while it sounds a little dull,
maybe it's a positive. Things nice and early in a
better state, leaving plenty of tables available for Argentinian tourists.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Also, maybe you've got a show to go to as well,
and you consider that just because we're dining early, because
I mean they're not going out afterwards, and.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You know, watching a play or a musical.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
News talk ze Bean could have just been.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Me on Saturday night. I suppose let's finish up year,
meaning Charlie Vickers, he plays so this is a bit complicated,
so stay with me.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So you've got Lord of the Rings, right, that was
a very.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Long book for a series of books, and then they
made that into three movies, which were also very long.
And then they decided to do The Hobbit as well,
which happened before those three movies, and that may turn
that into another three movies. Prob, we shouldn't have this
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quietly to the most. And then they made a TV
are you following all the back? And then they made
a TV program that was set even before the Hobbit,
and not just a bit before, but thousands of years before.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So you're still with me?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Okay, So we've had and we've had one season of
that and the second seasons just started and and so
there was a bunch of characters.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
There's really I think there's really only a couple of
characters that you'll know.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And the TV series if we've been watching those other
movies and we'll read those other books. Because elves they
lived for a long time, see, so they could be
around thousands of years before at school around thousands of
years later.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And then of course you've got them.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Sour of it seased to die. But are you still
with me. Oh you're still here, you're still listening. Fantastic
because we're about to meet the guy who was a
good guy and the hero of the story, or one
of the heroes of the story all the way through
the first season until the last episode of season one.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
An extraordinary moment. So all seasons you've been playing playing
hellbrind a charismatic king. In that last episode, an extraordinary
twist that turns out your character was actually soarn. Just
tell us about it. Tell us about how they broke
the news to you. Was it the writers, was it
the showrunners? When did you find out that would be
your role?
Speaker 8 (11:49):
The showrunners told me at the start of the third
episode of filming. So I filmed the first two episodes
of the show and not knowing I was playing souron
and then we just finished a hiatus because of COVID,
and they called me in to their office in Henderson
and they said, you're so it turns out that Albrand
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is sour And then that was a mind blowing moment
that I then had to try and I was left
reeling in a good way. I was very excited.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
So presumably this was a deliberate move on behalf of
the showrunners. They wanted you to think that you were
playing hell Brand, everything was normal, and then they were like, hey, Charlie,
guess what psich I think.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
Yeah, I think they must have wanted me for those
opening scenes to not think I was playing Sourn, So
therefore it'd be impossible for me to do any kind
of sign posting about like the potential evil beneath ol Brand,
you know, Halbrand. But I was kind of the issue
with that was I'd auditioned playing Satan from Paradise Lost
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and Bridge at the third so I kind of had
an inkling that there was something more to Halbrand.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Ah, that's interesting. You actually you you could sense that
maybe things were not as they appeared, that they might
be a little bit of a twist or something else
that you were going to discover.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Definitely, I think there was a little bit of I
definitely knew that there was something more at play. I
just didn't know what it was. So it was actually
a relief when they told me it was soar on,
because I mean I could really focus in on what
I had to learn.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Yeah, what is that change in terms of the process,
because the audience isn't going to know until the last episode, right,
so you are still thinking about I mean at this point,
I mean, do you have to change how you signpost things?
How do you think about your character?
Speaker 8 (13:38):
Not hugely in terms of practical practically, but yeah, it
changes a lot in terms of how I think about him,
and I was able to. It just gave me this
huge body of research that I could dive into that
I didn't have before. And it's like all the stuff
that Tolkien wrote about him was opened up to me.
And I'd already researched it quite a lot, but it
just meant I could throw myself headfirst into it. All
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the different parts of the film are relli in and
Tolkien's letters and yeah, really really exciting parts of the story.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's pretty crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It'd be like me been telling me suddenly.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
After thirteen years of the working on The Mike Hoskins
Breakfast formerly The Poor Holmes Brickfast Show, but it's actually
been the Glen Hat Brickfass Show all the time, Wouldn't it?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Would it?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It wouldn't. Okay, just carry on doing.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
What I'm doing. I amngr in Hat And there's been
news doors they've been and we will be there back
with more of this podcast, which also isn't really about
me at all tomorrow see.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
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