September 22, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) But What Does a Random 9-Year-Old Think?/More Health Funding Is Probably Good/Pinepocalypse/iPhone Fever/You've Got One Job
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, I'm Readiful Being. You're welcome to the Being Tuesday.
So this is yesterday's news. I am Glen Harnt. We
are looking back at Monday. Health funding seems to be
getting a boost. It's getting in the tricky to tell
which of these funding boosts new and which is what
we're playing from the Carlton government. Anyway, I think it's good.
(00:46):
What is a wilding pine? And why are they causing
Harry Woodham stress. Somebody's got an iPhone seventeen already. That's
places because I haven't even got one yet and I'm
reviewing them. And then Marcus has been watching the athletics
out of Bogio but before any of that, So Palas side,
(01:08):
who you are or are we not doing that?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They're no votes in it. Most kiwis either disagree or
don't know. Slash don't care about the recognition question, not
care about Gaza. They do, but just on the recognition
question number two. David Seymour hates it and this is
a cabinet decision that needs cabinet sign off. Remember three,
the practical problem of who you're actually recognizing. To probably
(01:36):
recognize a state, you need a leader. Who's that the
Palestinian authority humas I mean, for goodness sakes. Number four,
the US won't hate us now. I don't think this
is at all a primary concern for the government getting
offside with the US. It's more of a convenient byproduct
type situation. It is a big call not to back
our mates in the Five eyes Canada, Australia, the UK.
(02:00):
But there are practical reasons why this recognition won't happen,
and also good reason to think that even if we
did it, it wouldn't be anything other then performative politics
at best.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Anyway, I don't the downside seems to be the real
downside seems to be repercussions retaliation from primarily America, maybe Israel.
But it doesn't seem like we do that makes the
business with them anyway. I don't know that Ryan's right
(02:31):
about the majority of New Zealander is not wanting They
interviewed some people in the street on the news last night.
I never watched the news, but for some reason domestic
manager turned it on last night. I don't know why,
but I ye walked in to find that going and
they were interviewing people on the street. There was an
(02:52):
older couple with English accents who thought that the government
should definitely recognize Palestine. And then they talked to a
girl who appeared to be about nine years old and
she had some strong views. So that was worth doing,
wasn't it? That story almost as worthing as this story
about how the weather has been a bit yack at
the beginning of the school holidays and so some kids
(03:14):
are having to stay inside and play with lego. I
thought that was a well worth for several minutes they
spent on that story. It's amazing. I don't watch the
news more open, really, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
News talk Ze been right?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So we've got one of these things that the government
seems to actually be doing. Not sure if this is
something that they had already announced before, but now that
it's sort of actually happening, that sort of re announcing
it all this sort of funding for health which needs
to be being spent on car parks and things.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Maternity services are getting an upgrade at Ashburton Hospital. The
Lake's District hospital is getting an ed expansion, which kind
of makes sense considering they're located in an adventure playground.
Fungada Hospitals outpatients rooms have been upgraded so they can
be used for minor procedures, freeing up capacity in the
hospital's eight large theaters makes sense. Auckland City Hospital is
getting an electricity fixed to mitigate the risk of power
(04:08):
fail which sounds kind of vital, and Manico Health Plant
Park is getting a new cancer infusion space, so you
know that kind of thing. The question, though, is whether
this is enough to achieve what the Minister keeps telling
us he's focused on providing New Zealanders with modern, resilient
hospitals that can deliver timely quality care. Well, no, because
(04:28):
that's a ten year vision. These small scale projects go
some way though, to addressing issues in different areas of
the country and will hopefully make a difference for patients.
And these solutions have been achieved by working out how
to make current facilities work better, which is a good approach.
The opposition has a course said it's not enough money,
but it never is, no matter who was doing the
(04:49):
budgeting and who is in opposition, there's never enough money. However,
I do meet clinicians who tell me quite often we
can do better with the funding and facilities we already have.
Labor Health spokesperson the Aisha Ral says the funds are insignificant, insufficient,
I should say, to meet the needs of a growing
and aging population. Well, few policymakers and politicians are prepared
(05:13):
to deal with the long term impacts of an aging population,
much like how few want to really deal with the
superannuation issue. We're all like there to be more money.
We all want an equitable and sustainable house system. We
all want modern and resilient hospitals. However, considering the labor
disputes and the large hospital projects already on the government's hand,
(05:35):
the reality is this is as likely as good as
it's going to get.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's a typical New Zealand reaction to the sort of thing, though,
isn't it. It's like the government is doing something to
make things better, but they should be doing more. We
could never actually decid to say, oh, thanks government, keep
out the good work. I don't think that's ever happened,
not once you talk sib Right, So did the Morning
(06:02):
Show yesterday really supremely the show talking about wilding fines
I've just realize that if you know what a wilding
pine is, I'll have to look that up. Will's for
you know.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
The reason that commercial forests and the Department of Conservation
planted pines were good initially, you know, and in the
first instance, there was a desire to prevent the spread
of erosion. It was thought that the pine trees would
help stabilize land. Hasn't been entirely successful in some parts
(06:37):
of the country, but it was thought that would happen.
Yet again its unintended consequences. Now we've got more problems
really than the pines are worth, haven't we If the
foresters are saying they can't really afford to clean up
(06:59):
after themselves, otherwise their business is unsustainable. If you look
at the cost of the wild and pine control, and
hasn't the horse boulted? I mean, can you ever really
get it back under control? Now you look at the
cost of the slash, and then you balance that with
(07:19):
the export earnings, is it worth it?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So while in pine is basically a weed self seeded
pine tree with it's the pine tree apocalypse, that's what's happening.
We've opened a pine Pandora's box. I always thought that
the Pandora's box was slightly more godueled and ornate, but
it turns out it might just be made of pine.
(07:44):
Have I gone too far with this metaphor? Maybe let's
move on. So iPhone Fever, we're in the thick of it.
Are lots of stories about them selling out before they
even had the the store shelves. I think everybody's saw
a bit wary of the of the iPhone Air than
(08:06):
you super skinny one, but all the other ones you
can't get one. I can't even get one, and I'm
supposed to be reviewing them. I think there's one being
seen to me, it's been lost somewhere in transit.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Logan's got one, though, Flash, So what model were you
on before.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Thirteenmas?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I think, okay, yeah, so I think I'm on the
fourteen Promax, and I remember getting mine in February of
twenty three, so in my head, I think I've still
got a new phone. But then when I'm like, oh,
hang on, I'm now three models behind the latest version,
(08:51):
and it makes me feel like I've got like this
old fashioned phone. But what's the biggest improvement in having
the seventeen versus in your case, the fourteen or the thirteen.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Odd that's pretty much the same really, be honest, it's
just here something get the hype that they want a new.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Phone and the new pictures and new colors and new looks.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
But it's not the same thing at the end of
the day.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
But yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Be easier to get one and then and then I
could pass more.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
One down C re joined at the BOI new one.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
So I guess in your case it's that. I mean,
there are a lot of people who've got the three
G issue because they've got really old phone. So you're
able to kind of two birds with one stone sort
yourself out as well as your father.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I was interested to hear Logan and Tim there. Wow,
you couldn't hear Logan ironically, I'm not sure was he
actually talking on his new iPhone, because if he was,
it's not doing a very good job. Okay, you can't
necessarily blame the iPhone that he's in a pork coverage area.
I thought when Brand was sorting all those out, maybe
(09:57):
he's nowhere New Ukland. I don't know. Anyway, interesting that
he was on the thirteen, Tim was on the fourteen.
Apparently that is sort of the Those are the kind
of people who are looking it upgrading this time round,
which is probably why they've done such a dramatic change.
The thing I learned yes today interesting because they've they've
now got these they're not it's not called a camera
(10:19):
module anymore. It's a camera plateau like it's it's not
a bump. It's literally a raised part of the back
of the phone that goes right across from one side
to the other. The reason that is there like that
is not necessarily because of the camera. It's because that's
actually most of all the workings of the phone are
in that, and then the rest of the phone is
just holding battery.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
And then amazing news talk.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Been Okay, let's finish up with a quick wrap of
the World Champs with the athletics. I think Marcus has
been watching this pretty closely.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
I'll tell you something that always amazes me. Year they
have the athletics right, the World Athletics. If it always
bungles the relay, how hard could it be to change battons?
But every time I watch it, the change is always terrible.
(11:12):
No one's got the idea. You think they just practiced
that for days and get it all sussed, they have
some routine and discipline.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Any who. Yeah, it does seem to be. But the
relay the same with the swimming as well. You do
wonder how much actual practice they've spent because mostly they
just people who do other things normally, and they've all
sort of been common cobbled together as a team, haven't they.
That You've got You've got one thing to get right there,
haven't you. I mean, obviously you've got to run fast,
(11:46):
But yeah, that whole it's not a bad point for
MACUSI I often think that as I watch the All
Blacks not catch another high ball and not be able
to compete for another high ball, I often think this
is the one thing that you've been getting wrong since
well since I can remember watching the All Blacks play.
To be honest, and yeah, I just don't understand why
(12:10):
they're not spending more time on that. They seem to
spend no time on that. As far as I can tell,
I don't know how we got onto the aor Blecks.
I'm not worried about Eden pack. I think the Australians
are more worried about eating pack than the All Blecks are.
So I think any game against the Australians on eating
(12:32):
pack is probably going to be fine. When we get
the birth, I think that'll be a different story. I
am blie hat. That has been News Talks said. Then
we'll see back here again for a Wednesday one tomorrow.
I'll pass the baton to myself for a rerap later
(12:52):
on today, which is like this, but it's got more
mic Hosking in it.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
I'll see you think used Talking Talk.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
For more from news Talk said, be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, I'm Readiful Being. You're welcome to the Being Tuesday.
So this is yesterday's news. I am Glen Harnt. We
are looking back at Monday. Health funding seems to be
getting a boost. It's getting in the tricky to tell
which of these funding boosts new and which is what
we're playing from the Carlton government. Anyway, I think it's good.
(00:46):
What is a wilding pine? And why are they causing
Harry Woodham stress. Somebody's got an iPhone seventeen already. That's
places because I haven't even got one yet and I'm
reviewing them. And then Marcus has been watching the athletics
out of Bogio but before any of that, So Palas side,
(01:08):
who you are or are we not doing that?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
They're no votes in it. Most kiwis either disagree or
don't know. Slash don't care about the recognition question, not
care about Gaza. They do, but just on the recognition
question number two. David Seymour hates it and this is
a cabinet decision that needs cabinet sign off. Remember three,
the practical problem of who you're actually recognizing. To probably
(01:36):
recognize a state, you need a leader. Who's that the
Palestinian authority humas I mean, for goodness sakes. Number four,
the US won't hate us now. I don't think this
is at all a primary concern for the government getting
offside with the US. It's more of a convenient byproduct
type situation. It is a big call not to back
our mates in the Five eyes Canada, Australia, the UK.
(02:00):
But there are practical reasons why this recognition won't happen,
and also good reason to think that even if we
did it, it wouldn't be anything other then performative politics
at best.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Anyway, I don't the downside seems to be the real
downside seems to be repercussions retaliation from primarily America, maybe Israel.
But it doesn't seem like we do that makes the
business with them anyway. I don't know that Ryan's right
(02:31):
about the majority of New Zealander is not wanting They
interviewed some people in the street on the news last night.
I never watched the news, but for some reason domestic
manager turned it on last night. I don't know why,
but I ye walked in to find that going and
they were interviewing people on the street. There was an
(02:52):
older couple with English accents who thought that the government
should definitely recognize Palestine. And then they talked to a
girl who appeared to be about nine years old and
she had some strong views. So that was worth doing,
wasn't it? That story almost as worthing as this story
about how the weather has been a bit yack at
the beginning of the school holidays and so some kids
(03:14):
are having to stay inside and play with lego. I
thought that was a well worth for several minutes they
spent on that story. It's amazing. I don't watch the
news more open, really, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
News talk Ze been right?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So we've got one of these things that the government
seems to actually be doing. Not sure if this is
something that they had already announced before, but now that
it's sort of actually happening, that sort of re announcing
it all this sort of funding for health which needs
to be being spent on car parks and things.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Maternity services are getting an upgrade at Ashburton Hospital. The
Lake's District hospital is getting an ed expansion, which kind
of makes sense considering they're located in an adventure playground.
Fungada Hospitals outpatients rooms have been upgraded so they can
be used for minor procedures, freeing up capacity in the
hospital's eight large theaters makes sense. Auckland City Hospital is
getting an electricity fixed to mitigate the risk of power
(04:08):
fail which sounds kind of vital, and Manico Health Plant
Park is getting a new cancer infusion space, so you
know that kind of thing. The question, though, is whether
this is enough to achieve what the Minister keeps telling
us he's focused on providing New Zealanders with modern, resilient
hospitals that can deliver timely quality care. Well, no, because
(04:28):
that's a ten year vision. These small scale projects go
some way though, to addressing issues in different areas of
the country and will hopefully make a difference for patients.
And these solutions have been achieved by working out how
to make current facilities work better, which is a good approach.
The opposition has a course said it's not enough money,
but it never is, no matter who was doing the
(04:49):
budgeting and who is in opposition, there's never enough money. However,
I do meet clinicians who tell me quite often we
can do better with the funding and facilities we already have.
Labor Health spokesperson the Aisha Ral says the funds are insignificant, insufficient,
I should say, to meet the needs of a growing
and aging population. Well, few policymakers and politicians are prepared
(05:13):
to deal with the long term impacts of an aging population,
much like how few want to really deal with the
superannuation issue. We're all like there to be more money.
We all want an equitable and sustainable house system. We
all want modern and resilient hospitals. However, considering the labor
disputes and the large hospital projects already on the government's hand,
(05:35):
the reality is this is as likely as good as
it's going to get.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's a typical New Zealand reaction to the sort of thing, though,
isn't it. It's like the government is doing something to
make things better, but they should be doing more. We
could never actually decid to say, oh, thanks government, keep
out the good work. I don't think that's ever happened,
not once you talk sib Right, So did the Morning
(06:02):
Show yesterday really supremely the show talking about wilding fines
I've just realize that if you know what a wilding
pine is, I'll have to look that up. Will's for
you know.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
The reason that commercial forests and the Department of Conservation
planted pines were good initially, you know, and in the
first instance, there was a desire to prevent the spread
of erosion. It was thought that the pine trees would
help stabilize land. Hasn't been entirely successful in some parts
(06:37):
of the country, but it was thought that would happen.
Yet again its unintended consequences. Now we've got more problems
really than the pines are worth, haven't we If the
foresters are saying they can't really afford to clean up
(06:59):
after themselves, otherwise their business is unsustainable. If you look
at the cost of the wild and pine control, and
hasn't the horse boulted? I mean, can you ever really
get it back under control? Now you look at the
cost of the slash, and then you balance that with
(07:19):
the export earnings, is it worth it?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So while in pine is basically a weed self seeded
pine tree with it's the pine tree apocalypse, that's what's happening.
We've opened a pine Pandora's box. I always thought that
the Pandora's box was slightly more godueled and ornate, but
it turns out it might just be made of pine.
(07:44):
Have I gone too far with this metaphor? Maybe let's
move on. So iPhone Fever, we're in the thick of it.
Are lots of stories about them selling out before they
even had the the store shelves. I think everybody's saw
a bit wary of the of the iPhone Air than
(08:06):
you super skinny one, but all the other ones you
can't get one. I can't even get one, and I'm
supposed to be reviewing them. I think there's one being
seen to me, it's been lost somewhere in transit.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Logan's got one, though, Flash, So what model were you
on before.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Thirteenmas?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
I think, okay, yeah, so I think I'm on the
fourteen Promax, and I remember getting mine in February of
twenty three, so in my head, I think I've still
got a new phone. But then when I'm like, oh,
hang on, I'm now three models behind the latest version,
(08:51):
and it makes me feel like I've got like this
old fashioned phone. But what's the biggest improvement in having
the seventeen versus in your case, the fourteen or the thirteen.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Odd that's pretty much the same really, be honest, it's
just here something get the hype that they want a new.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Phone and the new pictures and new colors and new looks.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
But it's not the same thing at the end of
the day.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
But yeah, just.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Be easier to get one and then and then I
could pass more.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
One down C re joined at the BOI new one.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
So I guess in your case it's that. I mean,
there are a lot of people who've got the three
G issue because they've got really old phone. So you're
able to kind of two birds with one stone sort
yourself out as well as your father.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I was interested to hear Logan and Tim there. Wow,
you couldn't hear Logan ironically, I'm not sure was he
actually talking on his new iPhone, because if he was,
it's not doing a very good job. Okay, you can't
necessarily blame the iPhone that he's in a pork coverage area.
I thought when Brand was sorting all those out, maybe
(09:57):
he's nowhere New Ukland. I don't know. Anyway, interesting that
he was on the thirteen, Tim was on the fourteen.
Apparently that is sort of the Those are the kind
of people who are looking it upgrading this time round,
which is probably why they've done such a dramatic change.
The thing I learned yes today interesting because they've they've
now got these they're not it's not called a camera
(10:19):
module anymore. It's a camera plateau like it's it's not
a bump. It's literally a raised part of the back
of the phone that goes right across from one side
to the other. The reason that is there like that
is not necessarily because of the camera. It's because that's
actually most of all the workings of the phone are
in that, and then the rest of the phone is
just holding battery.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
And then amazing news talk.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Been Okay, let's finish up with a quick wrap of
the World Champs with the athletics. I think Marcus has
been watching this pretty closely.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
I'll tell you something that always amazes me. Year they
have the athletics right, the World Athletics. If it always
bungles the relay, how hard could it be to change battons?
But every time I watch it, the change is always terrible.
(11:12):
No one's got the idea. You think they just practiced
that for days and get it all sussed, they have
some routine and discipline.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Any who. Yeah, it does seem to be. But the
relay the same with the swimming as well. You do
wonder how much actual practice they've spent because mostly they
just people who do other things normally, and they've all
sort of been common cobbled together as a team, haven't they.
That You've got You've got one thing to get right there,
haven't you. I mean, obviously you've got to run fast,
(11:46):
But yeah, that whole it's not a bad point for
MACUSI I often think that as I watch the All
Blacks not catch another high ball and not be able
to compete for another high ball, I often think this
is the one thing that you've been getting wrong since
well since I can remember watching the All Blacks play.
To be honest, and yeah, I just don't understand why
(12:10):
they're not spending more time on that. They seem to
spend no time on that. As far as I can tell,
I don't know how we got onto the aor Blecks.
I'm not worried about Eden pack. I think the Australians
are more worried about eating pack than the All Blecks are.
So I think any game against the Australians on eating
(12:32):
pack is probably going to be fine. When we get
the birth, I think that'll be a different story. I
am blie hat. That has been News Talks said. Then
we'll see back here again for a Wednesday one tomorrow.
I'll pass the baton to myself for a rerap later
(12:52):
on today, which is like this, but it's got more
mic Hosking in it.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
I'll see you think used Talking Talk.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
For more from news Talk said, be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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