September 4, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) We Have to Put Them Somewhere/These Crimes Are Too Foreign for Us/Cop VS Rabbit/Eden Park Is Weird/Spare a Thought for Sesame Seed Farmers
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am glean Heart. We're looking
back at Thursday. We want to be able to deport
criminals who've been living here for a long time but
aren't actually from here. And it seems like a very
important thing to worry about. How to avoid being breath
(00:50):
tested on your way home. I'm not sure if you
should be doing that. But anyway, why we're going to
lose the rugby this weekend and being inflation proof? But
first up intensification hot topic, and or I'm not sure
about the rest of the country. It could be coming
(01:11):
to a neighborhood near you, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Chris Bishop says too in his columns that he is
perplexed by the council's aversion to new greenfield housing, big
new subdivisions on the city fringe. He says that he's
in favor of greenfield housing where the infrastructure costs can
be recovered from new residents. He says, in his view,
the council should be zoning more for this sort of housing.
(01:33):
The new draft plan is a missed opportunity, he says.
But it's a draft and the council has a chance
to improve it. But I guess the councils look at
arable land. You know, you can't just soak up the
land where food is produced to put plank more people there.
(01:54):
So what would you rather go up? The high density
apartment buildings, go out the greenfield housing on the outskirts
of the city, where you contribute towards the cost of
the infrastructure needed to have long term viable housing there.
(02:14):
Can we have a little bit of everything, a little
bit of the old buildings, a little bit of the
heritage buildings, a few tree lined streets, apartment living for
those who want it and love it. I'm wary of
more big subdivisions on the city fringe because I'm mindful
(02:34):
that that land is usually good land for growing food.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it's tricky, isn't it. There's so many conflicting forces
at play. We want to grow the population, I think,
do we? People leaving the country seems to be bad
for some reason. I'm not sure. But if we have
(02:58):
more people here then they have to go somewhere complicated.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Isn't that life news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Actually, while we're talking people coming and going, some people
who come here live here for ages and then commit
a whole lot of crimes. It turns out we can
only deport them back to where they came from if
they've been here less than ten years. After that, they
are basically New Zealanders and it's our problem.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Example of this is the Mumma Hooch brothers. These guys
are not Kiwi's, you know, the ones I'm talking about
done in christ Church. They're not Kiwis, they're Assi's. They
don't have citizenship here, they don't have Kiwi passports. But
even though they are two of the country's worst sexual offenders,
we cannot deport them back to Australia because they've been
here in New Zealand as residents for longer than ten years. Now,
(03:44):
Erica Stanford is proposing to change the rules so that
that gets moved out to twenty years for anyone who's
committed a serious crime like murder, rape or manslaughter. Now,
I would say scrap the time limit all together. It
doesn't matter how long you've been here. Twenty years, twenty
five years, thirty years, fifty years. If you decide that
you want to rape or kill someone, you go home.
(04:04):
You lose the privilege of being here. Maybe we need
to look outside of murder and manslaughter as well. Perhaps
we have lower time limits for other crimes, but time
limits all but further than ten years, if you know
what I mean. We take a line on those crimes,
push it out a little bit further, because the key
here is that it is a privilege. It's a privilege
to be in New Zealand and not a right. And
(04:26):
I suppose what I'm suggesting is that we take a
leaf out of Australia's book and get rid of other
countries criminals. Much as I don't always love what Australia
is doing, what I love a lot less is looking
after other countries criminals. So I reckon no time limit
on those big crimes.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I sort, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how
to feel about this or how important it is. I mean,
if these people could be if the crime's been done
within the ten years and we've only just got round
it finding out about it, maybe then they should be
(05:03):
another complicated thing. There's a lot of complicated things of
the podcast today. It's making me screw up my eye.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You talk SI.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So they were talking drink driving on the afternoon show
yesterday and then a cop or guy at least he
used to be a cop. I don't know if he
still is. He rang up with this story.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Guy stumbles out of the pub. This is a true story,
by the way, and he drops his keys and he
finally gets the car, and he finally gets his car,
and I'm just rubbing my hands, going, oh, this is good.
It's like going fishing, mate, And he speeds up the road.
He jumps to the carry, rockets off and hell, so
I'm tearing up the road after him. And I catch
him about two k's later, and I put the breath
of o eyes on his stone cold sober and I said,
(05:43):
what the helps that? I'm not allowed to say that,
but and he goes he I was the rabbit, And
sure enough I get back to the tapoona heaven and
there was not a car left in the car.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
He was the wee decoy, the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They call it the rabbit. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Yeah, it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Dark side of the designated driver, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
WoT you've got a smile.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
They don't you designated rabbit.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, so he did an impressive drunk person impression, threw
away the.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Policeman because they obviously saw me parked up down the road. Yeah,
well got on and stated it and they got away
with it. And obviously no one crashed that night, so
it was a good, good result all around.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Don't know how comfortable I am with a crop ringing
up and swearing on the radio and b thinking it's
funny that that guy did that so a whole lot
of drunk people could be out on the roads. Everybody
all thought that was a bit of a laugh with
(06:45):
a strange attitude to take there. Well right, wow, they
really hyped up this rugby match, isn't it, which is
probably another reason the or Blecks will lose. They don't
respond well to pressure. As far as I can tell, we.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Got a game of rugby this weekend, and this game
of rugby this weekend is really starting to take on
a life of its own, and some are calling it
the biggest game of rugby since the last World Cup Final,
featuring the same two teams, and this even though the
Lions just toured Australia in a record breaking financial success.
But no, this is a very big game. The whole
world is looking at this game and it is going
(07:19):
to be a cracker. And it's all been hyped up
and fortified by Eden Park's record as a fortress thirty
years and fifty games where the all Backs have not
been defeated, and we are vulnerable, as the last test
against Argentina showed. Meanwhile, the South Africans seemed genuinely inspired
by playing at Eden Park. Did you do know It's
(07:39):
been eight years since the South African's played at eden
Park and the venue is venerated by them, and I
wonder if it's been purposeful to keep them away from
eden Park for so long, to not let them step
on the pitch because it fires them up. And the
French have been in the media yesterday. They were the
last to beat New Zealand on the Garden of Eden
(08:00):
way back in nineteen ninety four. And here's a fun fact,
that was the very first time I ever went to
an all back game and we lost. But what an
amazing try, try from the end of the world, they said,
nineteen ninety four, last time we lost. And the French
have been rhapsodizing about the mythical qualities of Eden Park two,
which we all know is a pretty patchy stadium. It's
(08:20):
very good, it's good, but you know it could be
so much better. Now there's a real chance, a very
real chance, we're going to lose this one. Graham Henry
was quoted yesterday as saying there's something not quite right
with the team's mentality. Yet it is a reminder that
if the biggest game of rugby in the world is
to be played, it had to be played at Eden Park.
(08:42):
The good people of christ Church, who are about to
take possession of a spiffing new stadium, will argue that
Eden Park's self decoration that the park is our national
stadium is misplaced. But that's not true. Sorry, christ Church,
You've got a beautiful stadium. It's going to be awesome,
but Eden Park is sacred ground and Auckland possibly the nation,
(09:03):
but certainly Auckland still needs to figure out how to
make Eden Park better because we need a place like
eden Park. We needed in Park because it's the best
place for what's about to happen this weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I thought we hated Eden Park. You never quite get
a handle on whether we like it or hate it.
I've always found it a bit weird that it's this
bastion of unbeatability, because it is. It's a weird sort
of place, and I've never found Auckland to be massively parochial.
(09:38):
I guess it's because I remember so clearly traveling up
from Hamilton to watch way ketto when the ran Philly
shield off Auckland, and there were definitely more why Keado
supporters in the stadium that day than there were Auckland supporters. Anyway,
I'm sure the home ground advantage will be a big
factor and we won't crack under the pressure, and we
(09:58):
won't do any stupid defensive box kicks, and we'll catch
all the high balls and it'll all be fine. News
talk Ze Bean. So that Marcus was posing a really
clearly question last night, what is inflation proof? What's always
the same price? He thinks he's got something in mind.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
What's the one thing that you go to a shop
and never seems to go up in price. I think
I've found what it might be. I'm looking forward to
your suggestions. What I think never changes in price as
a three pack of sesame snaps always seems to be
about three dollars am I right? Delicious, never promoted, never publicized,
(10:40):
Always there, always a bargain if you've never tried them,
and give them a go. They just sesame seeds, I
think in honey or sugar or something. But they come
under the layers that you can kind of segregate an
extraordinary snack, just bubbles under. Always there, always the same price,
always good, and that old fashioned funny packaging. I've always
wondered how sesame seed farmers make any money, because if
(11:02):
you've seen the price for them, they cost next to nothing,
and there's millions of them. You buy a bag at
and there's millions of them, it's about two dollars. I
don't know how much they're paying the sesame seed farmers,
because I can't imagine that straightforward. You still need to
get rid of the pests and the birds and kind
of I don't know, it mayde you be quite difficult
thing to do.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's funny that he's such a fan of those things,
isn't it? Like those to me have always been the
sort of Ah, you don't want to give the kids
a chocolate bar, so you give them one of those instead.
He has got me thinking about sesame seed farmers though
never thought about what it takes to grow a sesame seed?
Is that one of those things that it will turn
out to be like almonds, that it's you know, it's
(11:43):
basically killing the planet because it's how much water it uses.
And one day we'll have to band sesame seeds. Probably
most things end that that way. Most of the things
that we like and do you have to be bad
for the planet and we're basically causing our own extinction.
He's they've got bleak at the end, isn't it? Maybe
(12:04):
I need a weekend? You probably do too. Are we
back with a weekend edition of News Talks? It have
been on Monday.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Sies News Talking, Talking z it bean. For more from
News Talks b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am glean Heart. We're looking
back at Thursday. We want to be able to deport
criminals who've been living here for a long time but
aren't actually from here. And it seems like a very
important thing to worry about. How to avoid being breath
(00:50):
tested on your way home. I'm not sure if you
should be doing that. But anyway, why we're going to
lose the rugby this weekend and being inflation proof? But
first up intensification hot topic, and or I'm not sure
about the rest of the country. It could be coming
(01:11):
to a neighborhood near you, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Chris Bishop says too in his columns that he is
perplexed by the council's aversion to new greenfield housing, big
new subdivisions on the city fringe. He says that he's
in favor of greenfield housing where the infrastructure costs can
be recovered from new residents. He says, in his view,
the council should be zoning more for this sort of housing.
(01:33):
The new draft plan is a missed opportunity, he says.
But it's a draft and the council has a chance
to improve it. But I guess the councils look at
arable land. You know, you can't just soak up the
land where food is produced to put plank more people there.
(01:54):
So what would you rather go up? The high density
apartment buildings, go out the greenfield housing on the outskirts
of the city, where you contribute towards the cost of
the infrastructure needed to have long term viable housing there.
(02:14):
Can we have a little bit of everything, a little
bit of the old buildings, a little bit of the
heritage buildings, a few tree lined streets, apartment living for
those who want it and love it. I'm wary of
more big subdivisions on the city fringe because I'm mindful
(02:34):
that that land is usually good land for growing food.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it's tricky, isn't it. There's so many conflicting forces
at play. We want to grow the population, I think,
do we? People leaving the country seems to be bad
for some reason. I'm not sure. But if we have
(02:58):
more people here then they have to go somewhere complicated.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Isn't that life news talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Actually, while we're talking people coming and going, some people
who come here live here for ages and then commit
a whole lot of crimes. It turns out we can
only deport them back to where they came from if
they've been here less than ten years. After that, they
are basically New Zealanders and it's our problem.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Example of this is the Mumma Hooch brothers. These guys
are not Kiwi's, you know, the ones I'm talking about
done in christ Church. They're not Kiwis, they're Assi's. They
don't have citizenship here, they don't have Kiwi passports. But
even though they are two of the country's worst sexual offenders,
we cannot deport them back to Australia because they've been
here in New Zealand as residents for longer than ten years. Now,
(03:44):
Erica Stanford is proposing to change the rules so that
that gets moved out to twenty years for anyone who's
committed a serious crime like murder, rape or manslaughter. Now,
I would say scrap the time limit all together. It
doesn't matter how long you've been here. Twenty years, twenty
five years, thirty years, fifty years. If you decide that
you want to rape or kill someone, you go home.
(04:04):
You lose the privilege of being here. Maybe we need
to look outside of murder and manslaughter as well. Perhaps
we have lower time limits for other crimes, but time
limits all but further than ten years, if you know
what I mean. We take a line on those crimes,
push it out a little bit further, because the key
here is that it is a privilege. It's a privilege
to be in New Zealand and not a right. And
(04:26):
I suppose what I'm suggesting is that we take a
leaf out of Australia's book and get rid of other
countries criminals. Much as I don't always love what Australia
is doing, what I love a lot less is looking
after other countries criminals. So I reckon no time limit
on those big crimes.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I sort, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how
to feel about this or how important it is. I mean,
if these people could be if the crime's been done
within the ten years and we've only just got round
it finding out about it, maybe then they should be
(05:03):
another complicated thing. There's a lot of complicated things of
the podcast today. It's making me screw up my eye.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
You talk SI.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
So they were talking drink driving on the afternoon show
yesterday and then a cop or guy at least he
used to be a cop. I don't know if he
still is. He rang up with this story.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Guy stumbles out of the pub. This is a true story,
by the way, and he drops his keys and he
finally gets the car, and he finally gets his car,
and I'm just rubbing my hands, going, oh, this is good.
It's like going fishing, mate, And he speeds up the road.
He jumps to the carry, rockets off and hell, so
I'm tearing up the road after him. And I catch
him about two k's later, and I put the breath
of o eyes on his stone cold sober and I said,
(05:43):
what the helps that? I'm not allowed to say that,
but and he goes he I was the rabbit, And
sure enough I get back to the tapoona heaven and
there was not a car left in the car.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
He was the wee decoy, the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
They call it the rabbit. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Yeah, it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Dark side of the designated driver, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
WoT you've got a smile.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
They don't you designated rabbit.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, so he did an impressive drunk person impression, threw
away the.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Policeman because they obviously saw me parked up down the road. Yeah,
well got on and stated it and they got away
with it. And obviously no one crashed that night, so
it was a good, good result all around.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Don't know how comfortable I am with a crop ringing
up and swearing on the radio and b thinking it's
funny that that guy did that so a whole lot
of drunk people could be out on the roads. Everybody
all thought that was a bit of a laugh with
(06:45):
a strange attitude to take there. Well right, wow, they
really hyped up this rugby match, isn't it, which is
probably another reason the or Blecks will lose. They don't
respond well to pressure. As far as I can tell, we.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Got a game of rugby this weekend, and this game
of rugby this weekend is really starting to take on
a life of its own, and some are calling it
the biggest game of rugby since the last World Cup Final,
featuring the same two teams, and this even though the
Lions just toured Australia in a record breaking financial success.
But no, this is a very big game. The whole
world is looking at this game and it is going
(07:19):
to be a cracker. And it's all been hyped up
and fortified by Eden Park's record as a fortress thirty
years and fifty games where the all Backs have not
been defeated, and we are vulnerable, as the last test
against Argentina showed. Meanwhile, the South Africans seemed genuinely inspired
by playing at Eden Park. Did you do know It's
(07:39):
been eight years since the South African's played at eden
Park and the venue is venerated by them, and I
wonder if it's been purposeful to keep them away from
eden Park for so long, to not let them step
on the pitch because it fires them up. And the
French have been in the media yesterday. They were the
last to beat New Zealand on the Garden of Eden
(08:00):
way back in nineteen ninety four. And here's a fun fact,
that was the very first time I ever went to
an all back game and we lost. But what an
amazing try, try from the end of the world, they said,
nineteen ninety four, last time we lost. And the French
have been rhapsodizing about the mythical qualities of Eden Park two,
which we all know is a pretty patchy stadium. It's
(08:20):
very good, it's good, but you know it could be
so much better. Now there's a real chance, a very
real chance, we're going to lose this one. Graham Henry
was quoted yesterday as saying there's something not quite right
with the team's mentality. Yet it is a reminder that
if the biggest game of rugby in the world is
to be played, it had to be played at Eden Park.
(08:42):
The good people of christ Church, who are about to
take possession of a spiffing new stadium, will argue that
Eden Park's self decoration that the park is our national
stadium is misplaced. But that's not true. Sorry, christ Church,
You've got a beautiful stadium. It's going to be awesome,
but Eden Park is sacred ground and Auckland possibly the nation,
(09:03):
but certainly Auckland still needs to figure out how to
make Eden Park better because we need a place like
eden Park. We needed in Park because it's the best
place for what's about to happen this weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I thought we hated Eden Park. You never quite get
a handle on whether we like it or hate it.
I've always found it a bit weird that it's this
bastion of unbeatability, because it is. It's a weird sort
of place, and I've never found Auckland to be massively parochial.
(09:38):
I guess it's because I remember so clearly traveling up
from Hamilton to watch way ketto when the ran Philly
shield off Auckland, and there were definitely more why Keado
supporters in the stadium that day than there were Auckland supporters. Anyway,
I'm sure the home ground advantage will be a big
factor and we won't crack under the pressure, and we
(09:58):
won't do any stupid defensive box kicks, and we'll catch
all the high balls and it'll all be fine. News
talk Ze Bean. So that Marcus was posing a really
clearly question last night, what is inflation proof? What's always
the same price? He thinks he's got something in mind.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
What's the one thing that you go to a shop
and never seems to go up in price. I think
I've found what it might be. I'm looking forward to
your suggestions. What I think never changes in price as
a three pack of sesame snaps always seems to be
about three dollars am I right? Delicious, never promoted, never publicized,
(10:40):
Always there, always a bargain if you've never tried them,
and give them a go. They just sesame seeds, I
think in honey or sugar or something. But they come
under the layers that you can kind of segregate an
extraordinary snack, just bubbles under. Always there, always the same price,
always good, and that old fashioned funny packaging. I've always
wondered how sesame seed farmers make any money, because if
(11:02):
you've seen the price for them, they cost next to nothing,
and there's millions of them. You buy a bag at
and there's millions of them, it's about two dollars. I
don't know how much they're paying the sesame seed farmers,
because I can't imagine that straightforward. You still need to
get rid of the pests and the birds and kind
of I don't know, it mayde you be quite difficult
thing to do.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's funny that he's such a fan of those things,
isn't it? Like those to me have always been the
sort of Ah, you don't want to give the kids
a chocolate bar, so you give them one of those instead.
He has got me thinking about sesame seed farmers though
never thought about what it takes to grow a sesame seed?
Is that one of those things that it will turn
out to be like almonds, that it's you know, it's
(11:43):
basically killing the planet because it's how much water it uses.
And one day we'll have to band sesame seeds. Probably
most things end that that way. Most of the things
that we like and do you have to be bad
for the planet and we're basically causing our own extinction.
He's they've got bleak at the end, isn't it? Maybe
(12:04):
I need a weekend? You probably do too. Are we
back with a weekend edition of News Talks? It have
been on Monday.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Sies News Talking, Talking z it bean. For more from
News Talks b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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