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October 6, 2024 • 13 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Well... It's Sort of Navy/You're So Wrong About the Cup/Please Don't Pick Him/Rena's Roots/A Long Way from Anywhere

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk said, be you Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies,
and welcome to the Being the Weekend edition, first of
yesterday's News. I am Glen Hart, and we are looking
back at Sunday and Saturday because those are the most
weekend the sort of days there are.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Do we care about the America's Cup? Are we going
to care about the America's Cup? Interesting questions?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Who will be on the All Blacks End of Year Tour?
Rina Owen goes back to her roots and some personal,
really personal feelings about the Chagos silence, which England have
given up apparently last week.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Did you notice that?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
But yeah, and we've got a navy ship that burnt
up and sank.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Is it really ours though? What was it doing there?

Speaker 4 (01:09):
It was doing survey work for that reef. So, as
you will be aware, some more like many other Pacific nations,
has been subject to tsunami and earthquakes and all sorts
of other things, and those reefs that resk was last
surveyed in nineteen eighty seven. So therefore, what there is,
it's very little information it's put it's not safe at

(01:31):
the moment, and so that's what it was doing, was
trying to surveying that reef as in doing other places
as well.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Is that what Manawanoui's principal purposes.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's also been involved with helping to deal with ammunitions,
you know, World War two ammunitions, diving all those sorts
of things that you need around the Pacific. I mean,
we've still got a lot of that stuff in the Pacific,
and so it's been working on that recently. I think
the last place it was somewhere was Vanuatu dealing with

(02:04):
those sorts of issues. So it's not a warship. It
was then not as a warship. It was a it
was an all tender for Norway and it was fifteen
years old when the Government of the day brought it
about five years ago. But it's not worship but it
is you know, it's painted gray and it's pretty much it.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
So if I have a boat and I painted gray,
does it become part of the New Zealand Navy's fleet.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Seems like a low bar. The whole thing's very curious,
isn't it. I'm sure we'll hear a littit more about that.
As the week progresses, news talk, has it been right?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Are you absolutely fizzing about the America's can't know me either.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Next weekend we actually we get to the actual Cup
after a long winded regatta which has peaked my interest
some weeks, well other weeks it's just completely passed me by.
But regardless of what I think about the Cup, where
it's held, how it's run, I will be truly invested
in Team New Zealand when the Cup kicks off next
New Zealand time. There is little in sport more exciting

(03:12):
than watching the start of these races. And while a
result of races is sometimes decided by who wins the start,
we've seen enough to know that anything can happen out
on the course. It's been four years of hard work
for Team New Zealand. Let's hope it's all been worth it.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Bring it on the Sunday session.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
So you all.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Engaged yet with the America's Cup? With you bit like me?
Yousider only really getting on board now that we're at
the business end. A lot of keywis have told me
they're not interested, but I reckon come this Sunday, we're
all going to get on board.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
You reckon, She's right about that.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I mean, I'm I'm in no position to judge because
I've always hated the America's Cup. I've always considered it
to be a thing that sort of retch and tigled
people get to do, and it really has no connection
to New Zealand And and somehow there was this big sort
of marketing thing and they sold us red.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Socks and people seem to get excited about it.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
But to win this thing, which traditionally was the Heart
had never been one since the first one, and nobody
had ever taken it off America, and then you know,
the Aussies did, and then we got it off them,
and then to just go to give up the right

(04:34):
to host it here, I mean, do you not find
that as gaoling as I do?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Maybe you don't. Maybe Francesca doesn't.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I've got more hot sporting takes, And like, I don't
ever ever ever want to see TJ Pire and Aara
in and all that jersey ever again.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
Do you think TJ. Pettinata will go on this Northern tour?

Speaker 7 (04:57):
No? I don't I think that With Royguard coming back,
I believe that it's time possibly to take some risks.
TJ's been amazing signed with Japan. I put him in
the same category as Sam Kane at some stage, I
think we've got to give some of these younger guys
a bit more of an opportunity, you know. So for me,

(05:22):
both Samkin and TJ Perrin are just might miss out
and it might be time to move on.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
So is that that that's your view? What do you
think Razor will do? Because if he doesn't take TJ,
He's got camera. I guard five test matches, Cortez eight
test matches. No, I hope in one game off the bench.
Does he leave himself a little bit light at halfback?

Speaker 7 (05:40):
Yeah, totally. I don't think he leaves himself light. He
leaves himself light on experience. So you know, I think
it's a massive question if he decides to take them.
I get that as well, because what he's trying to
do is you know that by the end of the seedon,
this is an incredibly difficult Northern tour. You know, you
start with Japan, which they're not going to take some
of the more experienced guys, They're going to send them

(06:01):
straight to the UK. Then You've got England, Ireland, France
and Italy. So you know, I think I would understand
if he took them. But then, so you know, what
did you mentioned roy guards?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Five?

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:16):
Rather eight?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
No?

Speaker 7 (06:18):
One? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
So when they get back from Europe, what do you
want their numbers to be? You know, do you want
them to have seven? Ten? You know they sort of
say that to win World Cups you need to have
sort of twenty eight to thirty test matches under your
belt to understand what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I'm so glad, sir John sees it the same
way I do. I mean, if you're not going to
put new players in the team, now, when are you
going to do it?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
And I don't know that I really have anything against
Japier and Arra as a person. It's just as playing
days are done.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
He spends more time complaining to the rest than he
does passing the ball these days, just like Dasin Marshall
we used to when they still keept putting him in
the team when he was passes from Okay, so you know,
Iwan perhaps best known for her role than once We're Worries,
but of course has had plenty of roles in twenty
of other things is talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Was talking about the with Jack on.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Saturday, the theater where she really all got started for it.

Speaker 9 (07:20):
For all of our listeners who might not have heard
of it before or maybe recognize the name, tell us
a little bit about Tucky.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
Door Tucky Doer Theater was in its prime heyday, was
in Wellington and it's where, for those who may not know,
I did a film call once We're Warriors thirty years
ago and this theater space, which was first called Depot Theater,

(07:50):
provided us with a space where that nurtured Maldi talent, writers, actors.
I first got involved when I was invited down by
Jim Moriarty to do the first ever theatm at I season,
which was in nineteen ninety. We were going through one
hundred and fifty year celebration of teddyt Or White Tonguey

(08:13):
So and it was Maldi doing everything acting, writing, producing, directing, drama.
And I thought, oh, I've got to come and live
in Wellington because this is where theater is and as
an actor you've got to learn your craft. And so
this space was there during that time of pivotal changes

(08:35):
which we had a wonderful fabric of comatur who were
mostly women, so I called them the founding mothers. Kiddy
Cartunia Baker, Sunny Amy Roner, all of these women who
literally most creative artists have a space for humanity rather
than politics. So they're not afraid, they're not thinking about

(08:57):
political things. They're thinking, hey, we need to this is
a season where we need to start creating and dedicating
the space to the Maldi voice, to Maldi Store. And
the following year, nineteen ninety one is when they did
the renaming ceremony of changing the depot is what it
was called to Takidua, the weaving of two. That same year,

(09:20):
play Market published a book Here to her Hoe, which
is five plays by Maldi playwrights. So a lot of
us came out of that stable, a lot of us
learned our craft there.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
And she's got great voices, and she that's a cool voice.
That a natural thing.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Is that a thing that happens from you know, years
of experience and acting or is it just a thing
that happens from years of smoking at some stage or another,
or a combination of all those things.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
News talk has been we're going to.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Finish up here talking about the Chagos Islands, which perhaps
most people had never heard of until last week when
England gave them back.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's good of them in.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
The middle of nowhere, apparently, And then and then Jack's
always wanted to go to one of them, or has
always been obsessed with one, in particular Diego Garcia.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Who knew that Jack knew so much about the Jago Silence.

Speaker 9 (10:18):
My dad first told me about d G. Diego Garcia
when I was a kid. So imagine a point, a
little atoll in the middle of the Indian Ocean, below
India and about halfway between Tanzania and Bali. For decades,
Diego Garcia has been home to one of the most

(10:39):
mysterious and secretive military bases on the planet. Its strategic location,
it's military runway, its fleet of long range bombers, and
its ability to reload submarines with weapons make it hugely
important to the US and the UK. But of course
that base only came about via a brutal history. Although

(11:01):
Diego Garcia had no indigenous population, enslaved people were brought
there to work on the atoll on coconut plantations, and
over several centuries developed their own language and culture. In
the nineteen sixties, the Brits decided to kick them out
in order to develop the military base. They forcibly evicted
all of the local population to Mauritius and the Seychelles.

(11:25):
For decades since, Mauritius has fought for the island and
its surrounding islands, the surrounding archipelago. Chagosians, as people from
the Chagos Islands are known, have fought to return to
their home, but I've always assumed that I would never
be able to go. The island is rumored to be
a CIA black site, and according to a recent BBC report,

(11:46):
only three journalists have ever visited. One pretended to have
a boat problem and was only there for an hour
and a half, another stopped to refuel while traveling in
a presidential plane, and the most recent visitor had to
agree to incredible restrictions on her reporting and was barred
from numerous areas and accompanied by minders at all times.

(12:10):
But yesterday came news from Diego Garcia. After years of
terse negotiations and an ongoing legal dispute regarding a group
of Tamil asylum seekers being detained on the island, the
UK and Mauritius announced that sovereignty of Diego Garcia and
the other Chagos Islands is going to be passed to Mauritius.

(12:30):
So will it mean the Chagosians as people from the
Chagos Islands are known, will it mean they can return home?
Probably not. Under the deal, the long range bombers, the submarines,
the base will remain for at least the next century.
Its official status might have changed, but for those of
us who trace the atoll across the world on our

(12:54):
office wall, Diego Garcia will be no more accessible and
no less mysterious.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
He's spent a lot of time thinking about that. Either
nobody else has ever heard of before, isn't he? So
it's halfway between Tanzania and Bali?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Is it what he said?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I was in Bali a few months ago on the
south coast, and I'd watch these even now and again
as sort of a big cargo ship would go out
and I'd think into the Indian Ocean and I think,
where is that going? I don't know anything about this place. Really,
I'm sitting there having my happy hour cocktail. Maybe it
was going off to the Diego Garcia.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
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Speaker 3 (13:45):
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