October 29, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Some Ideas Actually Are Stupid/Podcast Roulette/Hoping for a Bilateral/Angry for No Reason/No, I Don't Want a Lift
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. The Prime ministers out of
town with a a well it's called some meeting anyway,
(00:45):
Panel Beater Talk. Marcus has been walking annoyed. We'll find
out what that means at the end of the podcast. Oh,
there'll be a bit of podcasts really in a strange
place today as well, so it got to be worth
listening out for shortly. But before any of that, the
New Zealand Initiative with their ideas for electoral reform increasing
(01:06):
the number of MP's, could they possibly be serious?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Did you not look at the people he was going
to bring with them? No? I just thought it was
for Winston, you know. So she thought he was getting
extra MPs is like a gift with purchase you get
Winston and all you get the Ginsu knife of the
former weather man, you know that. And she voted, did
what she was told and went along and voted. And
(01:32):
there are many, many people like that. They will either vote.
They'll vote because they think they're supposed to. They won't
look at policies. They'll either vote tribally, or they'll vote
because somebody looks better than somebody else does. They won't
be looking at what policy is going to mean further
(01:55):
down the track. They'll just look at how it directly
impacts on them. And that's okay if that's their interest.
But I just don't think that we are intelligent enough
to be either represented well, because let's face it, MPs
(02:17):
are drawn from us, and we are an imperfect pool
of people, and I don't think we know how to
keep them accountable. I don't think we know what to
expect of them. I don't think we pull them up
(02:39):
when they are making grievous errors of judgment when drawing
up their list MPs. Looking at you, Greens. You know,
somebody said yesterday that the biggest threats to our society
are apathy and ignorance, and I would agree. Increasing the
(03:02):
pool of MPs by another fifty we're going to have
to do a lot better than that. Before I'd even
remotely concede to discussing that one.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, we want less, not more.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
And yeah, you've obviously probably if you're a regular listener
for this podcast, and why wouldn't you be. You've heard
me rail against local government, that we should get rid
of all of that, and eventually if we can just
you know, whittle down central government as well. And yeah,
just leave some experts in there who actually know what
they're doing, and everybody else can get on with their day.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
US talk been right.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I don't know what I'm about to play. That's called
podcast roulette. It doesn't normally happen this early in the podcast.
Normally I say it for the end, just in case
that goes off the rails. But I also don't normally
play it out of Heather's show. So here is what
the file is called. This is what the Heather's producer
has sent me HDPA. That's short for Heather dup c
(04:03):
Allen and Competent Editorial.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
What it's called.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I can't wait to see if that means that she
was in commidant at the editorial or she was talking
about somebody being incompident. And if she was who I
didn't listen to the show, So I don't know. Let's
find out.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
There really are seeing you people within the party who
think that Chris Luxon needs to be replaced. And from
the sounds of things, they were starting to get pretty
anxious in the last few weeks because of the recent
polls showing Labor pulling ahead and Luckxon getting less popular.
Surely they're going to be feeling a little better today
because what we learned yesterday is Labor looks credible until
they start talking the minute they start releasing policy. At
(04:41):
Go South yesterday they couldn't even get the policy out
without it being leaked first. Then they did manage to
get it out and it was the same old company
your money that Labor always reverts to. And then Chippy
wasn't at all credible on it when he had to
start answering questions. Same with the last week when the
Doctor's policy got released before Chippy was even ready for it. Now,
this doesn't actually solve National's problem all together. Luxon is
(05:01):
still unpopular by previous Prome minister's standards, but I'd have
to wonder does he not look quite as bad when
you see what the the alternative is now? Is it
possible that Labor has actually saved lux AND's skin by
sending voters back to National by just being basically predictable
money grabbers and then incompetent, incompetent or lord incompetent at
(05:23):
explaining it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Oh, I really pleased with how that went. Like I'm
pleased with where I put it. It's sort of related
back to having you know what's wrong with our electoral system,
and it also kind of was an incompetent editorial as
well as you can hear by Ed's frustration at in mispronunciating.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
At the end of community to hunt you talk.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So Lux and the aforementioned out of the country right
now after do some handshaking. The old bilateral I think
they used.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
To be policides.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The bilaterals was that different. Does anybody ever actually just
have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Did you see the comments yesterday from Malaysia's deputy Prime minister.
If you didn't, he was talking to a Kiwi delegation
often kual Olympa for Arsian, this will be your new
market and we welcome any halal product from New Zealand great.
I've always been pretty skeptical about these trade missions, if
I'm being honest with you, whether they actually do anything,
(06:29):
whether they actually achieve anything, or is it one big
giant junket. Truth is they're a little bit of both.
On a trip to ladder Ostok and Russia back in
twenty eleven, our Prime minister was in John Key got
to sit down with Vladimir Putin. Putin turned up late.
The journos were out waiting in the rain for hours.
He came and he sat down, he spoke in Russian
(06:49):
and then he booted us out with his bodyguards. But anyway,
he and Key spoke for about an hour. And at
the time New Zealand was trying to cut a free
trade deal with Russia, including a bunch of other like
Balarus Kazakhstan, and you don't get that sort of access
every day. Of course, you wouldn't be doing that till
a deal today, and we ended up suspending talks with
(07:09):
the Russians in twenty fourteen after they went into Ukraine.
So it was all a waste of time anyway. But
I grew to accept that these meetings actually do achieve something.
Besides the hotels and the accommodation. They're not actually what
you think that might be cracked up to be. The
schedules pretty grueling, and the flight over is a bit
crap too. They're not always glamorous, is the point. Great
(07:30):
fun though, back to the Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister, if
a Kiwi politician said that to a foreign company wanting
to export here, for example, it wouldn't mean much to
importers here, but there it's different. There's anything I learned
about Asia, it's that politicians have sway. They often control
large contracts, have close relationships or control over parts of
(07:53):
the economy that you wouldn't see in a more western
style democracy. So when a leader in a country of
thirty five million people in a region with seven hundred
million people says something like that, it's probably worth the trip.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
C like a CN. I think I've been saying it right.
I think we've been saying ACN RCN. I can't think
of anything worse. I hate meetings. I meaber being in
a meeting with people aren't even speaking the same language
as you.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The afternoon show Penell Bey to Talk do mis manager
pointed out a couple of little events in my car
the other day that I didn't even know where there.
I wish you hadn't done that, and then I still
wouldn't know that they were there. Now I feel like
I'm driving around in an addented car.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
You know, I'm always trying to be a bitter person,
a better person than yesterday. Yesterday I was watching the Dodgers. Well,
I was trying to do my show, and in overnight
I thought, no, I've got to be a bit of person,
you know, and be one hundred cent focused on the show.
So I'm nice watching the Dodgers, and I'm always across
my life and as most of us are, trying to
be better than we were yesterday. And I did something
today that I'm not proud of, and I want to
(09:03):
try and be better person.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Okay, Sarah.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I pulled up. I was taking my car into I
had an accident recently, so I was taking it to
the panel Beaters, right yep. And so I pulled up
and I was talking on the phone, and then some
guy started walking around my car filming me. I was
pulled up on the on the other side of the
road from the panel Beaters, okay, and this guy was
filming my car.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Odd behavior from him, Yeah, I was just lotking slide.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
And he's like filming me through the window of filming
the car. And so I got out of the car
and I said, mate, why are you filming me as
you would? And quite an aggressive tone. I chose yeah,
and then the guy goes, I assume you're here at
this panel beater, So I'm just assissing the car for you.
I just saw you pulled up. I ran the nice
(09:49):
license plate. I thought that guy across the road looks
like he needs me to assist. So this incredibly efficient
guy from the company came out from panel and paint
and started assissing the car, and I was in and
out in a second.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Oh that poor fella.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
He was just doing his job.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Yeah, So the lesson I've learned from that is don't
immediately jump to conclusions and coming with an angry, rude voice.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
There he was recording him and he just made that
up on the spot. Has been pretty clever. I'm recording this.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
To see, you know, news talk z it bean, Right, this.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Is sort of podcast really, we're doing double podcast really today.
It's called Marcus Walking Annoyed, So I think it basically
says what it is, but I don't really know what
that means. Let's find out is.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Up for a daddy walk today right round the back
of Bluffell ten k walk out doing that, and a
couple went up the road and turned around and came
back very slowly and said, wander down the window. Here
we go, and said, would you like a lift? Who
offers someone walking full fitness a lift? Like everyone's ever
(11:01):
offered be a lift? Rob inout exercising. I don't know
what that's about. Got no idea why anyone will do
that anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's that I guess it comes down to, really, does
it look like that you're walking for exercise or that
you're just trying to get somewhere, because they may have
thought he was just trying to get somewhere, and they
offered to help him get there, Like what was he wearing?
That comes into it if you're wearing exercise gear, And certainly,
(11:33):
I mean, I can't speak for Macus. I don't know
if I've ever actually seen him walking. He's mostly just
sort of hanging out in the corner in the situations
where I've been in the same room as him, Yes,
But personally, I know I don't look like I'm exercising
when I'm walking. I look like usually I'm on the
(11:53):
verge of death when I'm walking or doing any kind
of exercise. To be honest, I'm surprised people don't give
me a ride or offer to give me a ride
more often. I was walking the dog last night, half
a k from home, and it was just starting to rain,
and I was singing to myself, would be quite good if
(12:14):
somebody came past enough to give me a ride now.
And then domestic manager did actually drive past, amazing and
just shouted out the window and kept driving. Did hi, Jerry,
that's the name of the dog. Didn't say anything to me?
And then, of course the dog got really confused because
he just heard mum shouted him and then realized. The
(12:35):
dog realized what was happening, and all he wanted to
do at that point was get home. So he pulled
the extendable lead right out to its full length and
basically dragged me home as fast as possible. I don't
think he wanted to be in the rain either, But
you know, she could have given us a liftn't she?
But strange She's not just she's not a stranger, he's
(12:57):
literally the dog's mother. The dog was starting to get wet.
This has gone on a very long time, this last
but isn't it. I'll stop it now and we'll start
it up again tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
See Think Dog zed Beam.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
For more from News Talk zed B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. The Prime ministers out of
town with a a well it's called some meeting anyway,
(00:45):
Panel Beater Talk. Marcus has been walking annoyed. We'll find
out what that means at the end of the podcast. Oh,
there'll be a bit of podcasts really in a strange
place today as well, so it got to be worth
listening out for shortly. But before any of that, the
New Zealand Initiative with their ideas for electoral reform increasing
(01:06):
the number of MP's, could they possibly be serious?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Did you not look at the people he was going
to bring with them? No? I just thought it was
for Winston, you know. So she thought he was getting
extra MPs is like a gift with purchase you get
Winston and all you get the Ginsu knife of the
former weather man, you know that. And she voted, did
what she was told and went along and voted. And
(01:32):
there are many, many people like that. They will either vote.
They'll vote because they think they're supposed to. They won't
look at policies. They'll either vote tribally, or they'll vote
because somebody looks better than somebody else does. They won't
be looking at what policy is going to mean further
(01:55):
down the track. They'll just look at how it directly
impacts on them. And that's okay if that's their interest.
But I just don't think that we are intelligent enough
to be either represented well, because let's face it, MPs
(02:17):
are drawn from us, and we are an imperfect pool
of people, and I don't think we know how to
keep them accountable. I don't think we know what to
expect of them. I don't think we pull them up
(02:39):
when they are making grievous errors of judgment when drawing
up their list MPs. Looking at you, Greens. You know,
somebody said yesterday that the biggest threats to our society
are apathy and ignorance, and I would agree. Increasing the
(03:02):
pool of MPs by another fifty we're going to have
to do a lot better than that. Before I'd even
remotely concede to discussing that one.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, we want less, not more.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
And yeah, you've obviously probably if you're a regular listener
for this podcast, and why wouldn't you be. You've heard
me rail against local government, that we should get rid
of all of that, and eventually if we can just
you know, whittle down central government as well. And yeah,
just leave some experts in there who actually know what
they're doing, and everybody else can get on with their day.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
US talk been right.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I don't know what I'm about to play. That's called
podcast roulette. It doesn't normally happen this early in the podcast.
Normally I say it for the end, just in case
that goes off the rails. But I also don't normally
play it out of Heather's show. So here is what
the file is called. This is what the Heather's producer
has sent me HDPA. That's short for Heather dup c
(04:03):
Allen and Competent Editorial.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
What it's called.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I can't wait to see if that means that she
was in commidant at the editorial or she was talking
about somebody being incompident. And if she was who I
didn't listen to the show, So I don't know. Let's
find out.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
There really are seeing you people within the party who
think that Chris Luxon needs to be replaced. And from
the sounds of things, they were starting to get pretty
anxious in the last few weeks because of the recent
polls showing Labor pulling ahead and Luckxon getting less popular.
Surely they're going to be feeling a little better today
because what we learned yesterday is Labor looks credible until
they start talking the minute they start releasing policy. At
(04:41):
Go South yesterday they couldn't even get the policy out
without it being leaked first. Then they did manage to
get it out and it was the same old company
your money that Labor always reverts to. And then Chippy
wasn't at all credible on it when he had to
start answering questions. Same with the last week when the
Doctor's policy got released before Chippy was even ready for it. Now,
this doesn't actually solve National's problem all together. Luxon is
(05:01):
still unpopular by previous Prome minister's standards, but I'd have
to wonder does he not look quite as bad when
you see what the the alternative is now? Is it
possible that Labor has actually saved lux AND's skin by
sending voters back to National by just being basically predictable
money grabbers and then incompetent, incompetent or lord incompetent at
(05:23):
explaining it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Oh, I really pleased with how that went. Like I'm
pleased with where I put it. It's sort of related
back to having you know what's wrong with our electoral system,
and it also kind of was an incompetent editorial as
well as you can hear by Ed's frustration at in mispronunciating.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
At the end of community to hunt you talk.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So Lux and the aforementioned out of the country right
now after do some handshaking. The old bilateral I think
they used.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
To be policides.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
The bilaterals was that different. Does anybody ever actually just
have a conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Did you see the comments yesterday from Malaysia's deputy Prime minister.
If you didn't, he was talking to a Kiwi delegation
often kual Olympa for Arsian, this will be your new
market and we welcome any halal product from New Zealand great.
I've always been pretty skeptical about these trade missions, if
I'm being honest with you, whether they actually do anything,
(06:29):
whether they actually achieve anything, or is it one big
giant junket. Truth is they're a little bit of both.
On a trip to ladder Ostok and Russia back in
twenty eleven, our Prime minister was in John Key got
to sit down with Vladimir Putin. Putin turned up late.
The journos were out waiting in the rain for hours.
He came and he sat down, he spoke in Russian
(06:49):
and then he booted us out with his bodyguards. But anyway,
he and Key spoke for about an hour. And at
the time New Zealand was trying to cut a free
trade deal with Russia, including a bunch of other like
Balarus Kazakhstan, and you don't get that sort of access
every day. Of course, you wouldn't be doing that till
a deal today, and we ended up suspending talks with
(07:09):
the Russians in twenty fourteen after they went into Ukraine.
So it was all a waste of time anyway. But
I grew to accept that these meetings actually do achieve something.
Besides the hotels and the accommodation. They're not actually what
you think that might be cracked up to be. The
schedules pretty grueling, and the flight over is a bit
crap too. They're not always glamorous, is the point. Great
(07:30):
fun though, back to the Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister, if
a Kiwi politician said that to a foreign company wanting
to export here, for example, it wouldn't mean much to
importers here, but there it's different. There's anything I learned
about Asia, it's that politicians have sway. They often control
large contracts, have close relationships or control over parts of
(07:53):
the economy that you wouldn't see in a more western
style democracy. So when a leader in a country of
thirty five million people in a region with seven hundred
million people says something like that, it's probably worth the trip.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
C like a CN. I think I've been saying it right.
I think we've been saying ACN RCN. I can't think
of anything worse. I hate meetings. I meaber being in
a meeting with people aren't even speaking the same language
as you.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah. Right.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The afternoon show Penell Bey to Talk do mis manager
pointed out a couple of little events in my car
the other day that I didn't even know where there.
I wish you hadn't done that, and then I still
wouldn't know that they were there. Now I feel like
I'm driving around in an addented car.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
You know, I'm always trying to be a bitter person,
a better person than yesterday. Yesterday I was watching the Dodgers. Well,
I was trying to do my show, and in overnight
I thought, no, I've got to be a bit of person,
you know, and be one hundred cent focused on the show.
So I'm nice watching the Dodgers, and I'm always across
my life and as most of us are, trying to
be better than we were yesterday. And I did something
today that I'm not proud of, and I want to
(09:03):
try and be better person.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Okay, Sarah.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I pulled up. I was taking my car into I
had an accident recently, so I was taking it to
the panel Beaters, right yep. And so I pulled up
and I was talking on the phone, and then some
guy started walking around my car filming me. I was
pulled up on the on the other side of the
road from the panel Beaters, okay, and this guy was
filming my car.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Odd behavior from him, Yeah, I was just lotking slide.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
And he's like filming me through the window of filming
the car. And so I got out of the car
and I said, mate, why are you filming me as
you would? And quite an aggressive tone. I chose yeah,
and then the guy goes, I assume you're here at
this panel beater, So I'm just assissing the car for you.
I just saw you pulled up. I ran the nice
(09:49):
license plate. I thought that guy across the road looks
like he needs me to assist. So this incredibly efficient
guy from the company came out from panel and paint
and started assissing the car, and I was in and
out in a second.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Oh that poor fella.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
He was just doing his job.
Speaker 7 (10:04):
Yeah, So the lesson I've learned from that is don't
immediately jump to conclusions and coming with an angry, rude voice.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
There he was recording him and he just made that
up on the spot. Has been pretty clever. I'm recording this.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
To see, you know, news talk z it bean, Right, this.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Is sort of podcast really, we're doing double podcast really today.
It's called Marcus Walking Annoyed, So I think it basically
says what it is, but I don't really know what
that means. Let's find out is.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Up for a daddy walk today right round the back
of Bluffell ten k walk out doing that, and a
couple went up the road and turned around and came
back very slowly and said, wander down the window. Here
we go, and said, would you like a lift? Who
offers someone walking full fitness a lift? Like everyone's ever
(11:01):
offered be a lift? Rob inout exercising. I don't know
what that's about. Got no idea why anyone will do
that anyway.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's that I guess it comes down to, really, does
it look like that you're walking for exercise or that
you're just trying to get somewhere, because they may have
thought he was just trying to get somewhere, and they
offered to help him get there, Like what was he wearing?
That comes into it if you're wearing exercise gear, And certainly,
(11:33):
I mean, I can't speak for Macus. I don't know
if I've ever actually seen him walking. He's mostly just
sort of hanging out in the corner in the situations
where I've been in the same room as him, Yes,
But personally, I know I don't look like I'm exercising
when I'm walking. I look like usually I'm on the
(11:53):
verge of death when I'm walking or doing any kind
of exercise. To be honest, I'm surprised people don't give
me a ride or offer to give me a ride
more often. I was walking the dog last night, half
a k from home, and it was just starting to rain,
and I was singing to myself, would be quite good if
(12:14):
somebody came past enough to give me a ride now.
And then domestic manager did actually drive past, amazing and
just shouted out the window and kept driving. Did hi, Jerry,
that's the name of the dog. Didn't say anything to me?
And then, of course the dog got really confused because
he just heard mum shouted him and then realized. The
(12:35):
dog realized what was happening, and all he wanted to
do at that point was get home. So he pulled
the extendable lead right out to its full length and
basically dragged me home as fast as possible. I don't
think he wanted to be in the rain either, But
you know, she could have given us a liftn't she?
But strange She's not just she's not a stranger, he's
(12:57):
literally the dog's mother. The dog was starting to get wet.
This has gone on a very long time, this last
but isn't it. I'll stop it now and we'll start
it up again tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
See Think Dog zed Beam.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
For more from News Talk zed B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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