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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Harton and we
are looking back at Thursday. The teachers going on strike.
It's not really clear exactly what for, because they seem
to have got everything that they wanted previously, but now
they want other things. Anyway, Marcus has a pet word
(00:51):
that he hates, and I might have some as well.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
But before any of that.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, this COVID Inquiry Part two, Return of the Killer Inquiry.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Which Chris Hepkins and just Cinder Durn and co.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Have decided not to turn up for publicly.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Everybody hates that. It's not exactly clear what everybody would ask.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Them if they were being asked questions in public that
they really wanted them to be in public.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
They have formed these people as spineless decision makers, so
it should be no real surprise they haven't showed publicly.
They never once ventured to Auckland during the pointless unreasonable
lockdowns of twenty twenty one, so no huge surprise that
(01:44):
they're not willing to stand by the decisions they made.
Then now Dern and Robinson have moved on. They don't
need the New Zealand public. They don't need the New
Zealand public to have confidence in them. Hipkins does. He
wants to be Prime Minister again. He wants another bash
(02:05):
at it, Point to the polls and say he's a
third of the way there that most New Zealanders have
got over COVID moved on, Well some of us haven't.
We are living with the decisions, the economic, medical, and
social decisions that this unholy triumvirate made every single day,
(02:29):
and our children will live with those decisions and our grandchildren.
The very least they could do was a pair before
the same public whose faith and trust they exploited, and
explain how and why they made the decisions that they did.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The funny thing is, I it's only just occurred to
me now, but I do feel.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Like there was like a I was gonna say a
real word, there a bloomin press conference every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Where people who were making decisions were standing there before
I mean not before the public, but before reporters who's
supposedly it's sort of kind of representing the public interest,
answering any questions that those reporters felt like asking. That
happened day after day after day after day. It wasn't
(03:19):
like they were doing everything in secret.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
The whole time news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know what, the more I think about this, the
more I think this is just we want to blame somebody,
don't we.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
For something that nobody was really in control of anywhere
in the world.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Then there's the excuses provided to the inquiry itself. They
were worried about blowback from the public online, that it
might turn into some sort of witch hunt. This is
perhaps the most egregious and insulting excuse of them all.
During the COVID years, they were more than happy to
troll us members of the public from the podium of truth.
(03:59):
They were more than happy to engage in a little
witch hunting of their own. Bit Charlotte Ballast the Border
crosses the River of Filth. They used the media to
hammer their opponents as conspiracy theorists. Anyone who disagreed with them.
They anointed many a public enemy number one while they
were in control of the narrative. And that's really what
(04:19):
this is about. Controlling the narrative, the wall to wall coverage,
the one PM podium sermons cynically helped secure them a
historic majority in twenty twenty. As the old saying goes,
you can fall some of the people all of the time,
all of the people some of the time, but you
can't fool all of the people all of the time.
(04:41):
These guys know they've been found out, most recently by
that embarrassing Treasury report, and now that they can't control
the narrative.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It looks like they're running for the hills. Yeah yeah,
I mean, you certainly can't deny. It's a bad look.
And this h out, this lawyer outfit that was advising.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Them endems that was advising them not to appear publicly
because of potential blowback. Not that completely wrong, because I
think the blowback has reached its full potential.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Qu's talk seven.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm sure Heather, it's probably out for blood as well.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Like so many now, right or wrong, their actions during
COVID caused so many people to lose faith in government.
This was their chance, I think to restore that a
little bit. Instead, what they're doing is that causing us
to lose even more faith in government. If these people
ever tell themselves or us that they are here to serve,
it is utter bs. They're not here to serve. If
they were, every single one of them would put their
(05:45):
country's expectations of answers ahead of their own ambitions. But
they're not. It's more important for Jacinda to keep managing
her brand and living her best international life of glamour.
More important for Grant Robertson to keep pulling in that
six hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year at Otago.
More important for Chippy to try to have another go,
deluded at being Prime Minister. Again, more important for I
should preserve whatever credibility she has left is a health academic.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
They should know.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
They can delay accountability, but they cannot prevent accountability. They
will be held accountable, maybe through a future commission of
inquiry one day, maybe just through the history books that
eventually trash their reputations like history has trashed so many
other politicians, including Muldoon's. Either way add to the long
list of unpleasant things that we've learned about them. We
(06:30):
can now add cowardice to that list too.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's a good point that Either makes that very few politicians.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Are remembered all that favorably. Are they like universally admired?
That's politics, right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm not sure if this is going to become a
political issue or not. The teachers rumblings makes the teachers strikes,
so forth?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
What is it that they want exactly?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
When you go into your practicing, we have practical terms
twice a year? Or am my degree? We had practicums
twice a year?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
What's what's what's that? Sarah? What a practican?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
A practicum? Yeah? So we go into schools and this
is when we get our real life experience as a teacher.
Oh yeah, but we don't learn how to be a
teacher using the teachers they have in schools, right, and
we followed them.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And does it start the first year or is it
a couple of years into into the degree.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
But that starts the first year into the degree. So
your first year into your degree is when you get
a chance to do your teaching right.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Right, And how have you enjoyed those being in the classroom?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
I feel like it's been a great experience I've had. Obviously,
every school is different. And the word that you guys
were talking about, Petergogy you implement your own pedagology, but
you learn your pedagogy from watching other how other teachers teach.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm learning a lot of new words today, thank you Sarah.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, and Peter Godgy teaching.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
This old dogs some new words, which is awesome natural
born teacher. So are you going into primary teaching or
a secondary.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
At the moment, I'm probably going to go into primary.
I actually haven't decided yet because there's lots of opportunities
appearing and I haven't put on my CV yet, but
most likely primary I'm looking at.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And how different is the study between primary and secondary?
What extra do you have to do to get into
secondary school teaching?
Speaker 8 (08:38):
You would have to do a post grad to do secondary,
which means you would have to do an x three
year study. So that guy that talked about the four
year thing that would be talking about trying to get
into secondary. If you want to do primary, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Only three years okay?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And so are you planning to get your degree and
then jump the jump the seat of Australia and get
paid more?
Speaker 8 (09:01):
No, I really want to work in lower this high schools. Actually,
that would be a dream for me to go and
help those children that were talking about the behavioral needs,
and I really feel like I was drawn to that
support and going into this teaching would definitely be a
big part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So that's Sarah.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She's a trainee teacher, seems undaunted, seems keen. Hopefully there's
about a million more people like Sarah out there. Actually,
it's funny that Matt and Tyler should hook on to
words that they claim they'd never heard before.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think sometimes they pretend that they haven't heard them.
They like to play it dumb news talk zi.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Been because the other alternatives that they are actually that dumb.
But and that would be distressing. But Marcus, he's got
a word he hates.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
When did everyone start using the expression colorway? Well, I
think they've just been color now. I don't know why
I get so annoyed by it, because the language is
supposed to evolve and progress, But colorway. So they talk
about clothing, they say in a range of colorways.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I don't like it.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
I don't know why I don't like it anyway, So
that's me first up, colorways. Everyone wants to and maybe
for the first five minutes, there's some other expression that's
annoying you. At the moment, let me know what that is,
because often good to get something out your chest like that,
because ever we can move on with the real stuff,
which I'm not quite sure what it is at the moment,
but I'm sure you'll have something to say.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, I don't I like new things.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I like I'm I'm an early adopter, certainly when it
comes to technology. But there's some part of me, some
grumpy old man part of me that resists evolving language.
I don't like the way people say competitiveness instead of competition.
I hate the way people say effectiveness instead of efficacy.
(10:55):
And I get on my high horse about it, and
then I know, look it up and AI tells me that,
oh no, that's accepted.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Use these days. Those words they exist, They are words.
Settle down, grumby old man. He says.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's like another one thats me is when people say
a myriad of things rather than these things are myriad.
Because I always understood that myriad bront a noun.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was an adgictive Why are you still listening to this?
This has really got into the weeds.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Now good way that has been news talks it being
will be back with more words on Monday.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
A weekends with I'll see.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
The use Talking talk zid bean.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
For more from News Talk said b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeart Ready Yo
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Harton and we
are looking back at Thursday. The teachers going on strike.
It's not really clear exactly what for, because they seem
to have got everything that they wanted previously, but now
they want other things. Anyway, Marcus has a pet word
(00:51):
that he hates, and I might have some as well.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
But before any of that.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, this COVID Inquiry Part two, Return of the Killer Inquiry.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Which Chris Hepkins and just Cinder Durn and co.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Have decided not to turn up for publicly.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Everybody hates that. It's not exactly clear what everybody would ask.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Them if they were being asked questions in public that
they really wanted them to be in public.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
They have formed these people as spineless decision makers, so
it should be no real surprise they haven't showed publicly.
They never once ventured to Auckland during the pointless unreasonable
lockdowns of twenty twenty one, so no huge surprise that
(01:44):
they're not willing to stand by the decisions they made.
Then now Dern and Robinson have moved on. They don't
need the New Zealand public. They don't need the New
Zealand public to have confidence in them. Hipkins does. He
wants to be Prime Minister again. He wants another bash
(02:05):
at it, Point to the polls and say he's a
third of the way there that most New Zealanders have
got over COVID moved on, Well some of us haven't.
We are living with the decisions, the economic, medical, and
social decisions that this unholy triumvirate made every single day,
(02:29):
and our children will live with those decisions and our grandchildren.
The very least they could do was a pair before
the same public whose faith and trust they exploited, and
explain how and why they made the decisions that they did.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The funny thing is, I it's only just occurred to
me now, but I do feel.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Like there was like a I was gonna say a
real word, there a bloomin press conference every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Where people who were making decisions were standing there before
I mean not before the public, but before reporters who's
supposedly it's sort of kind of representing the public interest,
answering any questions that those reporters felt like asking. That
happened day after day after day after day. It wasn't
(03:19):
like they were doing everything in secret.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
The whole time news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know what, the more I think about this, the
more I think this is just we want to blame somebody,
don't we.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
For something that nobody was really in control of anywhere
in the world.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Then there's the excuses provided to the inquiry itself. They
were worried about blowback from the public online, that it
might turn into some sort of witch hunt. This is
perhaps the most egregious and insulting excuse of them all.
During the COVID years, they were more than happy to
troll us members of the public from the podium of truth.
(03:59):
They were more than happy to engage in a little
witch hunting of their own. Bit Charlotte Ballast the Border
crosses the River of Filth. They used the media to
hammer their opponents as conspiracy theorists. Anyone who disagreed with them.
They anointed many a public enemy number one while they
were in control of the narrative. And that's really what
(04:19):
this is about. Controlling the narrative, the wall to wall coverage,
the one PM podium sermons cynically helped secure them a
historic majority in twenty twenty. As the old saying goes,
you can fall some of the people all of the time,
all of the people some of the time, but you
can't fool all of the people all of the time.
(04:41):
These guys know they've been found out, most recently by
that embarrassing Treasury report, and now that they can't control
the narrative.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It looks like they're running for the hills. Yeah yeah,
I mean, you certainly can't deny. It's a bad look.
And this h out, this lawyer outfit that was advising.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Them endems that was advising them not to appear publicly
because of potential blowback. Not that completely wrong, because I
think the blowback has reached its full potential.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Qu's talk seven.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I'm sure Heather, it's probably out for blood as well.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Like so many now, right or wrong, their actions during
COVID caused so many people to lose faith in government.
This was their chance, I think to restore that a
little bit. Instead, what they're doing is that causing us
to lose even more faith in government. If these people
ever tell themselves or us that they are here to serve,
it is utter bs. They're not here to serve. If
they were, every single one of them would put their
(05:45):
country's expectations of answers ahead of their own ambitions. But
they're not. It's more important for Jacinda to keep managing
her brand and living her best international life of glamour.
More important for Grant Robertson to keep pulling in that
six hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year at Otago.
More important for Chippy to try to have another go,
deluded at being Prime Minister. Again, more important for I
should preserve whatever credibility she has left is a health academic.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
They should know.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
They can delay accountability, but they cannot prevent accountability. They
will be held accountable, maybe through a future commission of
inquiry one day, maybe just through the history books that
eventually trash their reputations like history has trashed so many
other politicians, including Muldoon's. Either way add to the long
list of unpleasant things that we've learned about them. We
(06:30):
can now add cowardice to that list too.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
It's a good point that Either makes that very few politicians.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Are remembered all that favorably. Are they like universally admired?
That's politics, right.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I'm not sure if this is going to become a
political issue or not. The teachers rumblings makes the teachers strikes,
so forth?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
What is it that they want exactly?
Speaker 8 (07:05):
When you go into your practicing, we have practical terms
twice a year? Or am my degree? We had practicums
twice a year?
Speaker 6 (07:12):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
What's what's what's that? Sarah? What a practican?
Speaker 8 (07:16):
A practicum? Yeah? So we go into schools and this
is when we get our real life experience as a teacher.
Oh yeah, but we don't learn how to be a
teacher using the teachers they have in schools, right, and
we followed them.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And does it start the first year or is it
a couple of years into into the degree.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
But that starts the first year into the degree. So
your first year into your degree is when you get
a chance to do your teaching right.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Right, And how have you enjoyed those being in the classroom?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (07:46):
I feel like it's been a great experience I've had. Obviously,
every school is different. And the word that you guys
were talking about, Petergogy you implement your own pedagology, but
you learn your pedagogy from watching other how other teachers teach.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I'm learning a lot of new words today, thank you Sarah.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, and Peter Godgy teaching.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
This old dogs some new words, which is awesome natural
born teacher. So are you going into primary teaching or
a secondary.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
At the moment, I'm probably going to go into primary.
I actually haven't decided yet because there's lots of opportunities
appearing and I haven't put on my CV yet, but
most likely primary I'm looking at.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And how different is the study between primary and secondary?
What extra do you have to do to get into
secondary school teaching?
Speaker 8 (08:38):
You would have to do a post grad to do secondary,
which means you would have to do an x three
year study. So that guy that talked about the four
year thing that would be talking about trying to get
into secondary. If you want to do primary, it's.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Only three years okay?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And so are you planning to get your degree and
then jump the jump the seat of Australia and get
paid more?
Speaker 8 (09:01):
No, I really want to work in lower this high schools. Actually,
that would be a dream for me to go and
help those children that were talking about the behavioral needs,
and I really feel like I was drawn to that
support and going into this teaching would definitely be a
big part of it.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So that's Sarah.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She's a trainee teacher, seems undaunted, seems keen. Hopefully there's
about a million more people like Sarah out there. Actually,
it's funny that Matt and Tyler should hook on to
words that they claim they'd never heard before.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think sometimes they pretend that they haven't heard them.
They like to play it dumb news talk zi.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Been because the other alternatives that they are actually that dumb.
But and that would be distressing. But Marcus, he's got
a word he hates.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
When did everyone start using the expression colorway? Well, I
think they've just been color now. I don't know why
I get so annoyed by it, because the language is
supposed to evolve and progress, But colorway. So they talk
about clothing, they say in a range of colorways.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I don't like it.
Speaker 9 (10:12):
I don't know why I don't like it anyway, So
that's me first up, colorways. Everyone wants to and maybe
for the first five minutes, there's some other expression that's
annoying you. At the moment, let me know what that is,
because often good to get something out your chest like that,
because ever we can move on with the real stuff,
which I'm not quite sure what it is at the moment,
but I'm sure you'll have something to say.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, I don't I like new things.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I like I'm I'm an early adopter, certainly when it
comes to technology. But there's some part of me, some
grumpy old man part of me that resists evolving language.
I don't like the way people say competitiveness instead of competition.
I hate the way people say effectiveness instead of efficacy.
(10:55):
And I get on my high horse about it, and
then I know, look it up and AI tells me that,
oh no, that's accepted.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Use these days. Those words they exist, They are words.
Settle down, grumby old man. He says.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's like another one thats me is when people say
a myriad of things rather than these things are myriad.
Because I always understood that myriad bront a noun.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was an adgictive Why are you still listening to this?
This has really got into the weeds.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Now good way that has been news talks it being
will be back with more words on Monday.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
A weekends with I'll see.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
The use Talking talk zid bean.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
For more from News Talk said b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeart Ready Yo
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