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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my little beingis and welcome to the Being for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Gleen Hart, and we're
looking back at Tuesday. More teachers going on strike for
more pay. How to get your kids to calm down
after they've had sport? Maybe, how you can get anybody
to calm down after they've had sport? And Marcus asked
(00:44):
perhaps the most ridiculous question I've ever heard him ask.
So that'll be worth waiting around for our first up,
of course at Tom Phillips, Well, not as capture his slaying.
I guess you could say, has everybody talking, most people,
of course, not knowing what they were talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Tom Phillips also deprived his children of their mum, of
any professional medical attention, of any formal education for four years.
Mber was five when they were taken. Bush hasn't been
to school since she's now nine. The kids were essentially
used as helpers as dad carried out bank robberies, burglaries, breakings.
(01:23):
These are not the actions of a father who wants
the best for his kid. Any parent who loves their
child knows you do not put them in harm's way.
Much will be made of the custody situation in the
coming days, but the fact is we don't know much
detail about this and likely never will. Well, the full
story won't come out. When he went bush the second time,
(01:45):
Tom was in breach of a custody order. That's about
all we know because family court cases are wrapped up
in suppression like Fort Knox in this country to protect
the kids. But whatever happened before court, whatever happened in court,
no matter how unfair or unjust a case may be,
if you take the law into your own hands, run
(02:07):
away with your own kids, deprive them of an education
and contact with society for four years, then the outcomes
are yours to own and yours alone. The outcomes are bittersweet.
In this case, a father is dead, a police constable
is in hospital, lucky to be alive, and three children
(02:27):
have survived, at least physically, a dangerous situation they should
never have been put in in the first place.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, so weirdly divisive. This whole situation with a lot
of people who apparently have absolutely no knowledge, really of
all the details of the case supporting Phillips having his
kids in the bush for four years. News talk z
(02:55):
been But you know, you know, people read stuff online.
They think they've got all the facts, don't they.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I mean, already here it is. How can you defend
the cops They shot a father dead in front of
his child. That child will be screwed up for life,
says Ben. You don't think that perhaps four years on
the run in the bush might have done something to them.
God knows what he was telling them. You don't think
the fact that he pulled out a gun and shot
a cop might have been the reason he ended up
(03:27):
dead in front of his child. Already, See, this is
what I mean. That is not the action of a
loving father. The loving dads, the hero dads, in my mind,
are the ones who put their own anger and their
sense of grievance behind them, and who turn up and
show up for their kids, who accept the kids aren't
(03:49):
their property, that children have a wider community of family
and friends who love them and who the kids deserve
to be around. They're the hero dads. So often on
the radio, I only hear from the two percent well
known stat that of the one hundred percent of people
(04:12):
who listen to talk back radio, only two percent will
ever ring. I think the stats are probably higher. I
haven't seen those for those who text. It would be
amazing today if the reasonable people, the rational people, the
ones who appreciate our police, and the ones who know
what it is to swallow your pride, to swallow your grievance,
(04:34):
to swallow you hurt, who know what it is to
be a good mum or a good dad, took the
time to ring and text. It would be really lovely
if you used your voices today.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean, we've got some basic sort of rules and
regulations on how society is supposed to work. And you know,
no matter where you stand, and as Carr says, there
what your grievance is? Do you know?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
You can?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I guess you can personally choose to not be a
part of it. But when there are kids involved, they
don't have the choice, do they?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You talk?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right? So kids, schools, teachers. We've got the secondary teachers
talking about going on strike. Now, I think what's happening here?
Is this really what the teachers want or is it
just what the unions want teachers?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
I'm sorry to have to be blunt, here have pretty
cruisy hours. Absolutely, some of the jobs are really bloody hard.
Kids are tough, and a classroom of kids is a
lot of tough, right. But those hours that they work
are the envy of many people. Fourteen weeks a year
of not having classes, fourteen weeks a year of not
(05:55):
having classes is the envy of most working people. And
I do not think that the secondary school teachers do
themselves any good by opposing the Education Ministr's attempts to
get them back at school for just a little bit longer.
So what's going on is it's the call back days
that they're fighting about. These are days when teachers are
expected to come back to school during school holidays to
get professional development. They have ten callback days at the
(06:17):
moment the government wants to increase it to eighteen. These
are days that they are paid to work. By the way,
they're not being asked to come in on their own time, right,
These are paid days. They're being asked to come to school.
The point of it, I think, is probably to use
these school these days in school holidays for professional development
and then get rid of the teachers only days during
term so that the kids actually get taught during term. Now,
(06:38):
even if all of these eighteen days are used, and
they won't be, that's not even four weeks. It still
leaves teachers ten weeks a year of school holiday time
which they can use however they choose to use it.
Some will use it for work, some will use it
for not work whatever. Now, I say this with respect
for secondary school teachers. Refusing to come to work on
(07:00):
days that you're paid to work is really not a
great look.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
See, the point there was that teachers aren't nurses, so
this is a slippery slap, so that way you start
comparing different procedure professions with each other. All I know
is I would have paid teachers anything out of my
own pocket just to take my kids away from me
(07:26):
for as many hours as possible. So I'm glad I'm
not part of this whole debate anymore. If only I
could get somebody to take the kid who doesn't leave
home yet away from me now, but it doesn't seem
to be anybody wants to do that with a pretty
one year old. Yes, yes, back in the day I did.
(07:47):
I did read them bedtime stories. I don't know if
it was to calm them down, after sport.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Though, so they'd go out before school. They'd be playing football,
and they'd be playing tennis and rugby and morning tea
and afternoon tea and they'd be covered and mad. And
then then that his teacher, who wasn't male, would get
them into the classroom and say, okay, boys, settle down,
get out your book and read for ten minutes. And
he'd get his chair out at the front of the
(08:15):
classroom and he would role model a New Zealand Mail sorry,
reading his fiction book or nonfiction book, so the boys
could see a New Zealand mail reading and normalize it.
And you know, these boys turned through so many books
thick here, and I just thought it was a really
unique and very cool approach to get boys into reading.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I think once you get over that initial hurdle, and
it sounds like this is what this teacher was doing.
Once you get over and you get into reading, it's
not a chore, it's an absolute joy. But you just
have to get over that hurdle. So what a great
New Zealand that man was for doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Emma Ringing into Matt and Tyler's show yesterday afternoon. Yeah,
I mean, like I always say, never ever, never, never, never,
never ever, never have children, and if you are going to,
even if you decided not to, have to take my
advice on that. For some don't have boys. They are gross.
She seemed to be implying there that they were dirty
(09:14):
and muddy before they even got to school. I mean
gross news talk.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let's finish up with Marcus asking the dumbest question I
think I've ever heard him ask soundbars?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
No idea what they are?
Speaker 8 (09:33):
If anyone could enlighten me about when they became a
thing and who needs them? I missed the memo. It
must because I've got no letter box, I get no
junk mail. I never knew that, and I've never mean
to anyone's house that has a sound bar. So yes,
you're never too old to learn, and I'm learning more
than I've ever learned. So for those that don't know,
(09:54):
I'd rather you explain to me what a soundbar is
and what the point of them is. But this is
important for a TV watching experience. And I never knew
they were a thing, never, never, ever, ever, ever, So
if I don't know, I suspect some of you don't know,
and some of you I don't know, I'm probably having
trouble getting good sound out of your TV because it's
got no sound bar. When did they become a thing?
(10:17):
I think apparently it's because of this new TVs are
flat and thin and you can't get the audio. So
he'd a separate thing for the sound, which is called
the soundbar. Had no idea they were a thing. So
if someone's experienced these and they go, you could ring
up and say, oh g Murcus, they'd been a real
for ages, Oh my god, Marcaus, I can't believe you've never.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Heard of them.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, the truth is I haven't. I mean, I don't
know what to say to that. I just don't know
what to say to that. Has he not been into
like an appliance store in the last or electronic store
in the last twenty years. I mean that you can
still buy TV's with good sound. Panasonic make a very
(10:59):
good one that's sort of got a built in sound bar.
But holy molly, I mean, if you're going to be
a host on nationwide very successful radio show, I mean
it dominates the ratings. Marcusis goes across the country. You've
got to know about. There's certain things you've just got
to know about wow and also you know, quick google
(11:25):
what our soundbars when they invented? Well, they had, But
I guess I've just done exactly what what what? What
he said that people are going to do, margers are
going to that that is exactly what I'm saying. So
he saw that coming, that's for sure. I am a
glear hate. You might even be listening to me on
(11:46):
a sound bard that'll blow Marcus's mind. Whatever you listen
to me, I'll see you back here again on that
same thing tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Us Talks Talks It Been for more from News Talk
said b. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iart Radio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my little beingis and welcome to the Being for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Gleen Hart, and we're
looking back at Tuesday. More teachers going on strike for
more pay. How to get your kids to calm down
after they've had sport? Maybe, how you can get anybody
to calm down after they've had sport? And Marcus asked
(00:44):
perhaps the most ridiculous question I've ever heard him ask.
So that'll be worth waiting around for our first up,
of course at Tom Phillips, Well, not as capture his slaying.
I guess you could say, has everybody talking, most people,
of course, not knowing what they were talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Tom Phillips also deprived his children of their mum, of
any professional medical attention, of any formal education for four years.
Mber was five when they were taken. Bush hasn't been
to school since she's now nine. The kids were essentially
used as helpers as dad carried out bank robberies, burglaries, breakings.
(01:23):
These are not the actions of a father who wants
the best for his kid. Any parent who loves their
child knows you do not put them in harm's way.
Much will be made of the custody situation in the
coming days, but the fact is we don't know much
detail about this and likely never will. Well, the full
story won't come out. When he went bush the second time,
(01:45):
Tom was in breach of a custody order. That's about
all we know because family court cases are wrapped up
in suppression like Fort Knox in this country to protect
the kids. But whatever happened before court, whatever happened in court,
no matter how unfair or unjust a case may be,
if you take the law into your own hands, run
(02:07):
away with your own kids, deprive them of an education
and contact with society for four years, then the outcomes
are yours to own and yours alone. The outcomes are bittersweet.
In this case, a father is dead, a police constable
is in hospital, lucky to be alive, and three children
(02:27):
have survived, at least physically, a dangerous situation they should
never have been put in in the first place.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, so weirdly divisive. This whole situation with a lot
of people who apparently have absolutely no knowledge, really of
all the details of the case supporting Phillips having his
kids in the bush for four years. News talk z
(02:55):
been But you know, you know, people read stuff online.
They think they've got all the facts, don't they.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I mean, already here it is. How can you defend
the cops They shot a father dead in front of
his child. That child will be screwed up for life,
says Ben. You don't think that perhaps four years on
the run in the bush might have done something to them.
God knows what he was telling them. You don't think
the fact that he pulled out a gun and shot
a cop might have been the reason he ended up
(03:27):
dead in front of his child. Already, See, this is
what I mean. That is not the action of a
loving father. The loving dads, the hero dads, in my mind,
are the ones who put their own anger and their
sense of grievance behind them, and who turn up and
show up for their kids, who accept the kids aren't
(03:49):
their property, that children have a wider community of family
and friends who love them and who the kids deserve
to be around. They're the hero dads. So often on
the radio, I only hear from the two percent well
known stat that of the one hundred percent of people
(04:12):
who listen to talk back radio, only two percent will
ever ring. I think the stats are probably higher. I
haven't seen those for those who text. It would be
amazing today if the reasonable people, the rational people, the
ones who appreciate our police, and the ones who know
what it is to swallow your pride, to swallow your grievance,
(04:34):
to swallow you hurt, who know what it is to
be a good mum or a good dad, took the
time to ring and text. It would be really lovely
if you used your voices today.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean, we've got some basic sort of rules and
regulations on how society is supposed to work. And you know,
no matter where you stand, and as Carr says, there
what your grievance is? Do you know?
Speaker 6 (05:07):
You can?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I guess you can personally choose to not be a
part of it. But when there are kids involved, they
don't have the choice, do they?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You talk?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right? So kids, schools, teachers. We've got the secondary teachers
talking about going on strike. Now, I think what's happening here?
Is this really what the teachers want or is it
just what the unions want teachers?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
I'm sorry to have to be blunt, here have pretty
cruisy hours. Absolutely, some of the jobs are really bloody hard.
Kids are tough, and a classroom of kids is a
lot of tough, right. But those hours that they work
are the envy of many people. Fourteen weeks a year
of not having classes, fourteen weeks a year of not
(05:55):
having classes is the envy of most working people. And
I do not think that the secondary school teachers do
themselves any good by opposing the Education Ministr's attempts to
get them back at school for just a little bit longer.
So what's going on is it's the call back days
that they're fighting about. These are days when teachers are
expected to come back to school during school holidays to
get professional development. They have ten callback days at the
(06:17):
moment the government wants to increase it to eighteen. These
are days that they are paid to work. By the way,
they're not being asked to come in on their own time, right,
These are paid days. They're being asked to come to school.
The point of it, I think, is probably to use
these school these days in school holidays for professional development
and then get rid of the teachers only days during
term so that the kids actually get taught during term. Now,
(06:38):
even if all of these eighteen days are used, and
they won't be, that's not even four weeks. It still
leaves teachers ten weeks a year of school holiday time
which they can use however they choose to use it.
Some will use it for work, some will use it
for not work whatever. Now, I say this with respect
for secondary school teachers. Refusing to come to work on
(07:00):
days that you're paid to work is really not a
great look.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
See, the point there was that teachers aren't nurses, so
this is a slippery slap, so that way you start
comparing different procedure professions with each other. All I know
is I would have paid teachers anything out of my
own pocket just to take my kids away from me
(07:26):
for as many hours as possible. So I'm glad I'm
not part of this whole debate anymore. If only I
could get somebody to take the kid who doesn't leave
home yet away from me now, but it doesn't seem
to be anybody wants to do that with a pretty
one year old. Yes, yes, back in the day I did.
(07:47):
I did read them bedtime stories. I don't know if
it was to calm them down, after sport.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Though, so they'd go out before school. They'd be playing football,
and they'd be playing tennis and rugby and morning tea
and afternoon tea and they'd be covered and mad. And
then then that his teacher, who wasn't male, would get
them into the classroom and say, okay, boys, settle down,
get out your book and read for ten minutes. And
he'd get his chair out at the front of the
(08:15):
classroom and he would role model a New Zealand Mail sorry,
reading his fiction book or nonfiction book, so the boys
could see a New Zealand mail reading and normalize it.
And you know, these boys turned through so many books
thick here, and I just thought it was a really
unique and very cool approach to get boys into reading.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I think once you get over that initial hurdle, and
it sounds like this is what this teacher was doing.
Once you get over and you get into reading, it's
not a chore, it's an absolute joy. But you just
have to get over that hurdle. So what a great
New Zealand that man was for doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Emma Ringing into Matt and Tyler's show yesterday afternoon. Yeah,
I mean, like I always say, never ever, never, never, never,
never ever, never have children, and if you are going to,
even if you decided not to, have to take my
advice on that. For some don't have boys. They are gross.
She seemed to be implying there that they were dirty
(09:14):
and muddy before they even got to school. I mean
gross news talk.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let's finish up with Marcus asking the dumbest question I
think I've ever heard him ask soundbars?
Speaker 7 (09:29):
No idea what they are?
Speaker 8 (09:33):
If anyone could enlighten me about when they became a
thing and who needs them? I missed the memo. It
must because I've got no letter box, I get no
junk mail. I never knew that, and I've never mean
to anyone's house that has a sound bar. So yes,
you're never too old to learn, and I'm learning more
than I've ever learned. So for those that don't know,
(09:54):
I'd rather you explain to me what a soundbar is
and what the point of them is. But this is
important for a TV watching experience. And I never knew
they were a thing, never, never, ever, ever, ever, So
if I don't know, I suspect some of you don't know,
and some of you I don't know, I'm probably having
trouble getting good sound out of your TV because it's
got no sound bar. When did they become a thing?
(10:17):
I think apparently it's because of this new TVs are
flat and thin and you can't get the audio. So
he'd a separate thing for the sound, which is called
the soundbar. Had no idea they were a thing. So
if someone's experienced these and they go, you could ring
up and say, oh g Murcus, they'd been a real
for ages, Oh my god, Marcaus, I can't believe you've never.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Heard of them.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, the truth is I haven't. I mean, I don't
know what to say to that. I just don't know
what to say to that. Has he not been into
like an appliance store in the last or electronic store
in the last twenty years. I mean that you can
still buy TV's with good sound. Panasonic make a very
(10:59):
good one that's sort of got a built in sound bar.
But holy molly, I mean, if you're going to be
a host on nationwide very successful radio show, I mean
it dominates the ratings. Marcusis goes across the country. You've
got to know about. There's certain things you've just got
to know about wow and also you know, quick google
(11:25):
what our soundbars when they invented? Well, they had, But
I guess I've just done exactly what what what? What
he said that people are going to do, margers are
going to that that is exactly what I'm saying. So
he saw that coming, that's for sure. I am a
glear hate. You might even be listening to me on
(11:46):
a sound bard that'll blow Marcus's mind. Whatever you listen
to me, I'll see you back here again on that
same thing tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Us Talks Talks It Been for more from News Talk
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