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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. Matt doesn't have any Internet
at the moment for some reason. We'll try to get
to the bottom of that. Marcus plays everybody's favorite game,
What's my favorite nut? But before any of that, Oh,
(00:48):
we've got a corruption at the highest levels of the
police force. That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Nikola Willis gets tangled up in this too. Unfortunately for her,
she recommended Costa for his current job. He's still got
five years on his contract, she says. She's appalled, but
she can't fire him. That's a job for Brian Roach,
and I don't think this is doubt that he's going
to get the sack unless he resigns. First. Of course,
the whole thing is an absolute cluster. In a big
(01:15):
government job like police commissioner, you've got to cross the
t's and dot the eyes. It's a seven hundred thousand
dollars a year job, and Costa wasn't up to the job.
If he doesn't quit his current one, it's only a
matter of time now before it's taken from him. The
clock is ticking for Costa and for the front line. Sadly,
respect and integrity take a lifetime to earn in a
(01:37):
moment to lose. They're the ones who'll cop the backlash.
The a're the ones who have to actually talk to
real people every day, and as of six o'clock last night,
sadly their jobs just became a whole lot harder.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's a massive stinc on this thing, isn't it.
Everybody's sort of running for cover, condemning everything right up
until the point that they're also implicated, and then there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
All that they can say news talk, ze been.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't think that Kerrie was particularly impressed by any
of it either.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Police Commissioner Howard Broad after the Royal Commission of Inquiry,
after the ghastly cholem shipped and cover up there, I
will now ask school serving members to join with me
to make the changes necessary to prevent this sort of
behavior ever happening again. Two thousand and seven, the work's
(02:34):
already started. We're moving quickly on this a draft code's
been fully consulted. There'll be a reform of the nineteen
fifty eight Police Act. At the heart of the issues
looked at by the Commission of Inquiry has been abuses
of power. Yes, policies, processes and sanctions can only go
so far. That's quite right. There were processes in place
(02:57):
that were circumvented by these abuses, abuses of the woman
and abuses of power. What happens to people that they
become like this? Costas on the record are saying he
entered the police because of his Christian faith, his Christian
duty to serve. I feel for the good, honest men
(03:23):
and women wearing the blue uniform who turn up to
work every day trying to make New Zealand a better,
safer community. They have been so badly let down by
their bosses. But a number of them knew how hopeless
Coster was. The number of texts and emails I received
over the years that he was Commissioner were extraordinary. I'm
(03:44):
not sure if they knew the depths to which he
would go to save his skin and his salary. They
knew he was a wrong and they had a copper's
nose to sniff out when something was wrong. I would
love to hear from you on this one. I still
trust the police. I still back the police. My faith
(04:06):
in the police hierarchy was shaped with Costa in the
top row, and it's been absolutely rocked with the revelations
of yesterday. With Richard Chambers as commissioner, the ship has
been righted. The oversights being introduced will help ensure corrupt
(04:27):
officials won't be able to circumvent the processes designed to
prevent and detect wrongdoing. But by bloody crikey, the police
will not be able to endure another scandal like this one,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well what does she mean by that? But if there
is one, we just get rid of the police and
have something else. Talk what are we replacing with, like
the security private security firms. Those guys who I see
driving around in the middle of the night when I'm
driving to work in there, Suzuki swifts and Yaris crosses.
(05:08):
They sort of almost looked like police cars, but then
it's out that they're not.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
It doesn't seem like he did what he did because
he wanted to hide what JEFFN mcskimming had done. It
sounds more like he tried to make it go away
because he didn't believe that it was true. It sounds
like he believed mc skimming was just the victim of
a really bad breakup. He'd ended an affair, she hadn't
taken it well. Now she was trying to destroy his
reputation online, and so Andrew Costa seemed to have thought
(05:32):
maybe what he needed to do was try to prevent
these horrible lies from destroying the career of a good man.
So he tried to hurry things up and shut things down,
and hide emails from ministers and not tell the people
appointing the next police commissioner that there were complaints against
mc skimming, and he got angry at police officers who
tried to raise concerns. Except, as it turns out, Andrew
Costa was wrong. Jefn mcskimming was not a good man.
(05:53):
He was a creep. The woman's allegations should have been
listened to. She wasn't destroying the career of a good man.
She was alerting authorities to a bad man. But Andrew
Costa was a police officer, and it is one oh
one of policing to invest gate allegations and listen to complaints,
not shut them down. So he failed at the very
(06:14):
basics of his job, and unfortunately for him, while he
may not be a bad man, he ended up doing
things that I think we can agree are bad things. Misleading,
shutting down good police, wanting to raise concerns protecting a creep. Now,
I don't know is there really that much difference in
the end? Is there between being a bad man and
(06:35):
being someone who thinks they're doing the right thing but
doing bad things? For him, the outcome is actually pretty
much the same. Whether he was bad or bad at
his job. He has lost his job and he's lost
his reputation.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Even just listening to the details of this story or
reading about them, you kind of feel like you've got
to go home and shower and shower afterwards, don't you.
You could find something nicer to talk about. Right For
the second bit of this podcast, I think we're going
to just try to keep it as early as possible.
(07:10):
And what could be sillier than listening to Matt talk
about how he's got no internet right now?
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Hey, so I've just I'm going to update something. So
I was saying on a previous show, maybe because the
show that you when you move into a new house,
which I've just moved into, just moved into a new house,
and I said, on you once you set up your TV,
it doesn't feel like it's home until you've plugged your TV.
And that's going right now, I reckon, it's until your
internet's going, you don't feel like you're home.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's a good point.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
My internet's not going.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
What good is it, Telly if you don't have the internet.
I know because it all comes through.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
It all comes through.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It's a smart TV, so you need your apps going.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
It's terrible how dependent I am on the internet. But
I'm just all at sea because I can't seem to
work out my internet situation. And you know, I'm just
wondering if our bosses are listening, we're be able to
take the last hour off the show today so I
can get on the phone to two degrees and get
that sort of.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
We all know how punishing that as well. If you're listening,
you know we're only ten steps away, so we'll just
see if you pops in here and gives the thumbs
up or not.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
It is.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's a mess of amount of Edmond. If you've got
internet issues, and as I said before, it's a human right.
That's effectively like depriving you of food and water. This company,
this is isp depriving you of your god given right.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Look, I just want to say I don't think two
Degrees have done anything wrong here.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I probably of it.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
I probably shouldn't mention the situation them specifically. They just
happened to be.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I was on my republic, right, yep.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
And then my republic disappeared because my republic with the
good gaming internet people for a while there. Then they
disappeared and they got enveloped into two degrees. And then
because you never look at your internet concusion again, it
just blasts on and they charge you, and it just
keeps going and going. I never checked back in yep.
And so when I move house, I'm like, go to
talk to two degrees iving to my republic, and they
(08:53):
don't exist COMBA.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I can kind of relate to this. I mean, I
would never be so disorganizers to just to conpect my
internet to magically come on when I move without actually
making sure that it's going through ahead of time. That's
just unforgivable. But I do identify with that that I'm
also technically with two degrees because because I'm I'm with Orcon.
(09:21):
But now Orcon is also part of two degrees apparently,
But I still get my bells from Orcon, but I don't.
I now don't know if Orcon is actually sort of thing.
I've recently changed my phone to two degrees because they
(09:42):
were just cheaper. Does two degrees to like doing really amazingly? Well?
What's going on here? News talk Right, here's the moment
you've all been waiting for. It's time to play. Guess
my nat it's my favorite nut. I don't know what
the game is actually called.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Is it aisio?
Speaker 8 (10:01):
No? They look they look like a little shelf as
sort of thing that day it's pistacio.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
No is a meceademia.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
They are bloody. Hadn't they to crack open?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You're hard to crack open?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Is it a pine nut?
Speaker 8 (10:19):
That? They're very nice? They used to have them at
the what what is that restaurant? I used to go
through lots and lots harding are in the They said,
those pine nuts?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You know what restaurant was there?
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Common coke is a chestnut? Old chestnuts are very nice too.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Is it a coconut?
Speaker 8 (10:43):
They're a hard case thing? A coconut. They going to
be pretty well, is an almond? Now an almond isn't
an almond? Is the inside of the inside of the
stone of the of the apricot or almond. And now
the almonds you're going to tell me off when I
(11:06):
tell you what I what? I really a donut? It
is a donut. How did you get that? That would
have to be my top. But even they are not
like they used to be. When I was a young fellow, Marcus,
the doughnuts were round like an orange, and they were
they were cooked and fat. Of course, it's deep, and
(11:27):
the outside of the outside of it was almost a
black color. Was with the icing sugar sprinkle on. It
was slit slit open with it whooped cream, a little
bed of raspberry jam. But the ones you get now,
they're nothing like that they were. And when you used
to eat these ones I'm talking about, you used to
finish up all the icing sugar around your lips.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
It was quite was it quite quite chewy, But it
sounds like it's been.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
It sounds quite there. It was quite chewy. The skin
of the skin on the out side of it, as
it were, it was almost a black charcoal color.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Those were the days mot cream jam. I think these
days with healthy eating and stuff, I think if I
tried to put one of those inside my body, I'd
just dissolved from the inside out. My body would go
into shop. You'd have to stare me with an e
(12:27):
epin or knacking or something. Can't be Heaven, can't be
eating that sort of phone these days. Quite good from
Calvin here. Quite good for Marcus Kissinger as well. I
am a glen hat tuning back here for another give
(12:49):
my nut tomorrow. We'll see you then used.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Talking talks it Bean for more from news Talk said
be listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts on
iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Wednesday. Matt doesn't have any Internet
at the moment for some reason. We'll try to get
to the bottom of that. Marcus plays everybody's favorite game,
What's my favorite nut? But before any of that, Oh,
(00:48):
we've got a corruption at the highest levels of the
police force. That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Nikola Willis gets tangled up in this too. Unfortunately for her,
she recommended Costa for his current job. He's still got
five years on his contract, she says. She's appalled, but
she can't fire him. That's a job for Brian Roach,
and I don't think this is doubt that he's going
to get the sack unless he resigns. First. Of course,
the whole thing is an absolute cluster. In a big
(01:15):
government job like police commissioner, you've got to cross the
t's and dot the eyes. It's a seven hundred thousand
dollars a year job, and Costa wasn't up to the job.
If he doesn't quit his current one, it's only a
matter of time now before it's taken from him. The
clock is ticking for Costa and for the front line. Sadly,
respect and integrity take a lifetime to earn in a
(01:37):
moment to lose. They're the ones who'll cop the backlash.
The a're the ones who have to actually talk to
real people every day, and as of six o'clock last night,
sadly their jobs just became a whole lot harder.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's a massive stinc on this thing, isn't it.
Everybody's sort of running for cover, condemning everything right up
until the point that they're also implicated, and then there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
All that they can say news talk, ze been.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't think that Kerrie was particularly impressed by any
of it either.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Police Commissioner Howard Broad after the Royal Commission of Inquiry,
after the ghastly cholem shipped and cover up there, I
will now ask school serving members to join with me
to make the changes necessary to prevent this sort of
behavior ever happening again. Two thousand and seven, the work's
(02:34):
already started. We're moving quickly on this a draft code's
been fully consulted. There'll be a reform of the nineteen
fifty eight Police Act. At the heart of the issues
looked at by the Commission of Inquiry has been abuses
of power. Yes, policies, processes and sanctions can only go
so far. That's quite right. There were processes in place
(02:57):
that were circumvented by these abuses, abuses of the woman
and abuses of power. What happens to people that they
become like this? Costas on the record are saying he
entered the police because of his Christian faith, his Christian
duty to serve. I feel for the good, honest men
(03:23):
and women wearing the blue uniform who turn up to
work every day trying to make New Zealand a better,
safer community. They have been so badly let down by
their bosses. But a number of them knew how hopeless
Coster was. The number of texts and emails I received
over the years that he was Commissioner were extraordinary. I'm
(03:44):
not sure if they knew the depths to which he
would go to save his skin and his salary. They
knew he was a wrong and they had a copper's
nose to sniff out when something was wrong. I would
love to hear from you on this one. I still
trust the police. I still back the police. My faith
(04:06):
in the police hierarchy was shaped with Costa in the
top row, and it's been absolutely rocked with the revelations
of yesterday. With Richard Chambers as commissioner, the ship has
been righted. The oversights being introduced will help ensure corrupt
(04:27):
officials won't be able to circumvent the processes designed to
prevent and detect wrongdoing. But by bloody crikey, the police
will not be able to endure another scandal like this one,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well what does she mean by that? But if there
is one, we just get rid of the police and
have something else. Talk what are we replacing with, like
the security private security firms. Those guys who I see
driving around in the middle of the night when I'm
driving to work in there, Suzuki swifts and Yaris crosses.
(05:08):
They sort of almost looked like police cars, but then
it's out that they're not.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
It doesn't seem like he did what he did because
he wanted to hide what JEFFN mcskimming had done. It
sounds more like he tried to make it go away
because he didn't believe that it was true. It sounds
like he believed mc skimming was just the victim of
a really bad breakup. He'd ended an affair, she hadn't
taken it well. Now she was trying to destroy his
reputation online, and so Andrew Costa seemed to have thought
(05:32):
maybe what he needed to do was try to prevent
these horrible lies from destroying the career of a good man.
So he tried to hurry things up and shut things down,
and hide emails from ministers and not tell the people
appointing the next police commissioner that there were complaints against
mc skimming, and he got angry at police officers who
tried to raise concerns. Except, as it turns out, Andrew
Costa was wrong. Jefn mcskimming was not a good man.
(05:53):
He was a creep. The woman's allegations should have been
listened to. She wasn't destroying the career of a good man.
She was alerting authorities to a bad man. But Andrew
Costa was a police officer, and it is one oh
one of policing to invest gate allegations and listen to complaints,
not shut them down. So he failed at the very
(06:14):
basics of his job, and unfortunately for him, while he
may not be a bad man, he ended up doing
things that I think we can agree are bad things. Misleading,
shutting down good police, wanting to raise concerns protecting a creep. Now,
I don't know is there really that much difference in
the end? Is there between being a bad man and
(06:35):
being someone who thinks they're doing the right thing but
doing bad things? For him, the outcome is actually pretty
much the same. Whether he was bad or bad at
his job. He has lost his job and he's lost
his reputation.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Even just listening to the details of this story or
reading about them, you kind of feel like you've got
to go home and shower and shower afterwards, don't you.
You could find something nicer to talk about. Right For
the second bit of this podcast, I think we're going
to just try to keep it as early as possible.
(07:10):
And what could be sillier than listening to Matt talk
about how he's got no internet right now?
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Hey, so I've just I'm going to update something. So
I was saying on a previous show, maybe because the
show that you when you move into a new house,
which I've just moved into, just moved into a new house,
and I said, on you once you set up your TV,
it doesn't feel like it's home until you've plugged your TV.
And that's going right now, I reckon, it's until your
internet's going, you don't feel like you're home.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's a good point.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
My internet's not going.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
What good is it, Telly if you don't have the internet.
I know because it all comes through.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
It all comes through.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
It's a smart TV, so you need your apps going.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
It's terrible how dependent I am on the internet. But
I'm just all at sea because I can't seem to
work out my internet situation. And you know, I'm just
wondering if our bosses are listening, we're be able to
take the last hour off the show today so I
can get on the phone to two degrees and get
that sort of.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
We all know how punishing that as well. If you're listening,
you know we're only ten steps away, so we'll just
see if you pops in here and gives the thumbs
up or not.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
It is.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's a mess of amount of Edmond. If you've got
internet issues, and as I said before, it's a human right.
That's effectively like depriving you of food and water. This company,
this is isp depriving you of your god given right.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Look, I just want to say I don't think two
Degrees have done anything wrong here.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I probably of it.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
I probably shouldn't mention the situation them specifically. They just
happened to be.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I was on my republic, right, yep.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
And then my republic disappeared because my republic with the
good gaming internet people for a while there. Then they
disappeared and they got enveloped into two degrees. And then
because you never look at your internet concusion again, it
just blasts on and they charge you, and it just
keeps going and going. I never checked back in yep.
And so when I move house, I'm like, go to
talk to two degrees iving to my republic, and they
(08:53):
don't exist COMBA.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I can kind of relate to this. I mean, I
would never be so disorganizers to just to conpect my
internet to magically come on when I move without actually
making sure that it's going through ahead of time. That's
just unforgivable. But I do identify with that that I'm
also technically with two degrees because because I'm I'm with Orcon.
(09:21):
But now Orcon is also part of two degrees apparently,
But I still get my bells from Orcon, but I don't.
I now don't know if Orcon is actually sort of thing.
I've recently changed my phone to two degrees because they
(09:42):
were just cheaper. Does two degrees to like doing really amazingly? Well?
What's going on here? News talk Right, here's the moment
you've all been waiting for. It's time to play. Guess
my nat it's my favorite nut. I don't know what
the game is actually called.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Is it aisio?
Speaker 8 (10:01):
No? They look they look like a little shelf as
sort of thing that day it's pistacio.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
No is a meceademia.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
They are bloody. Hadn't they to crack open?
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You're hard to crack open?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Is it a pine nut?
Speaker 8 (10:19):
That? They're very nice? They used to have them at
the what what is that restaurant? I used to go
through lots and lots harding are in the They said,
those pine nuts?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You know what restaurant was there?
Speaker 8 (10:32):
Common coke is a chestnut? Old chestnuts are very nice too.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Is it a coconut?
Speaker 8 (10:43):
They're a hard case thing? A coconut. They going to
be pretty well, is an almond? Now an almond isn't
an almond? Is the inside of the inside of the
stone of the of the apricot or almond. And now
the almonds you're going to tell me off when I
(11:06):
tell you what I what? I really a donut? It
is a donut. How did you get that? That would
have to be my top. But even they are not
like they used to be. When I was a young fellow, Marcus,
the doughnuts were round like an orange, and they were
they were cooked and fat. Of course, it's deep, and
(11:27):
the outside of the outside of it was almost a
black color. Was with the icing sugar sprinkle on. It
was slit slit open with it whooped cream, a little
bed of raspberry jam. But the ones you get now,
they're nothing like that they were. And when you used
to eat these ones I'm talking about, you used to
finish up all the icing sugar around your lips.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
It was quite was it quite quite chewy, But it
sounds like it's been.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
It sounds quite there. It was quite chewy. The skin
of the skin on the out side of it, as
it were, it was almost a black charcoal color.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Those were the days mot cream jam. I think these
days with healthy eating and stuff, I think if I
tried to put one of those inside my body, I'd
just dissolved from the inside out. My body would go
into shop. You'd have to stare me with an e
(12:27):
epin or knacking or something. Can't be Heaven, can't be
eating that sort of phone these days. Quite good from
Calvin here. Quite good for Marcus Kissinger as well. I
am a glen hat tuning back here for another give
(12:49):
my nut tomorrow. We'll see you then used.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Talking talks it Bean for more from news Talk said
be listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts on
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