August 13, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Unprecedented Podcast Roulette/Polling Shows How Much We Hate the Medicine/We're Basically Milan/Vacuuming Like it's 1999
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We're still trying to make
sense of a couple of poles that came out this week.
Chloe Swarbrick may have energized by the polling and maybe
that's why she sort of went off. And Parliament will
(00:48):
a bed text solve all of Auckland's problems and Marcus
Cract's vacuumenting. But before any of that, I have decided
to play podcast. Roulett's right at the beginning of the podcast,
this is unprecedented. It's risky, but goes wrong. You might
not listen to the rest of the podcast. Except for
all those other cool things that I said, we're going
to be on.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I have got some audio here that says HDPA Circus Editorial.
HDPA is Heather dup Allen. She's the drive host. I
don't know what circus this is about, but we're about
to find out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, I can't blame you if your assessment of Parliament
today is that it's become a circus, because what happened
today is kind of hard to defend or we even explain.
Chloe was kicked out. Brownly suspended her for a week.
All of the government parties voted for that punishment, and
that includes New Zealand first before Winston Peters then got
up to tell Jerry Brownlee that the punishment wasn't fair,
(01:48):
even though he just voted for the punishment, and then
Debbie got up and said the C word again. Now
Chloe did actually break the rules. I mean, this is
another one of those seemingly arbitrary or hard to explain
rules in Parliament that MPs can't accuse each other of
being cowards. Nick Smith did it in two thousand and three.
He accused MPs of not across the House of not
having the spine to debate a vote. He withdrew and apologized.
(02:10):
Steve Chadwick did it in two thousand and seven. She
accused the Opposition of being absolutely gutless and spineless. She
withdrew and apologized. John Key did it in twenty fifteen,
quite famously, when he yelled at labor to get some
guts over the war, but he got away with it
and actually probably shouldn't have. So Chloe did break the rules.
But then Debbie got up and said the sea word
and she didn't break the rules. So explain that. How
(02:32):
is accusing other MPs of being spineless worse than dropping
the sea bomb in the House of Representatives. I mean,
sure one is aimed at someone, the other one is
just a swear word that's been dropped. But when you
get into explaining that level of nuance on offensiveness, I
think you've lost the audience. Plus, why is Jerry Brownly
all of a sudden the tough cop. I mean, this
is the guy who was wringing his hands over the
(02:53):
Maldi Party getting kicked out of Parliament for three weeks
for the hucker and David Seymour's face and for refusing
to turn up to the Privileges Committee and for then
leaking the recommended punishment from the Privileges Committee. But when
Chloe says basically the same thing that John Key once
said without punishment, Jerry comes down on her like.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
A to the bricks.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Frankly, none of this makes sense anymore. I mean it
does on a level of detail and minutia, sure, but
explaining it to a normal person no sense whatsoever. But
guess who's loving this? Chloe's loving this because Chloe's learned
from Tapasi Mahdi and the Hka that there's one sure
fire away to get attention, and that's to break the
rules of parliament and not be sorry. What a circus?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, so full disclosure, I had not listened to that
audio before I've played it to you, but I had
a sneaking suspicion that that's what Heather meant by by
a circus, or Heather's producer meant by calling that cat
(03:51):
a circus?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Has it been so anyway?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Chloe?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is she the clown? Is she the ringmaster? Is she
the page of death with a motorbike?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Strive?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Running around and around? Pably not that last one. Actually,
I may have taken the analogy too far. What does
Carrie wouldn't think?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Unbecoming language and having to apologize to the house in
nineteen sixty six, the insults flew and the speaker was
kept very busy. Shut up yourself, your great ape, withdraw
and apologize, snotty nosed little boy, cheap little twerp and
ridiculous mouse were all considered unacceptable. Nineteen seventy seven, John
(04:37):
Boy was considered unacceptable, silly, old moo, racist, and sober up,
which could have applied to any one of a number
of MPs in nineteen seventy seven imagined, and so on
and so forth. We probably don't think many of those
insults were unparliamentary or unacceptable. I would say spineless fits
(05:03):
an alongside twerp or stupid, as Chris Bishop is supposed
to have called members of the opposition. I think stupid's
worse than spineless. There are many things I have criticized
and would criticize Chloe s Warbrick for calling her colleagues
across the house spineless, is not one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think you see this from speakers from time to time.
They just lose their shit and then they won't back down,
and unfortunately it looks like that. I think that's what's
happened here, isn't it. I don't know. It's all out
of control. Give them all detention, make them write lines.
(05:46):
That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Qu's talk sad, so you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Know who knows who the winners and losers ultimately are
out of all this, maybe we need another poll.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You can argue that National went too hard and fast
on cutting the spending and stopping infrastructure projects, but at
the same time they were voted in to stop wasteful
spending on dumb stuff. That's what we asked them to do.
Many think that hasn't actually gone far enough. Just yesterday
we learned of one hundred jobs going at the Reserve Bank,
(06:16):
which under Adrian Or wanted a budget of more than
a billion dollars and to keep twice the number of
staff that they started the pandemic with. Does that sound
reasonable to you? This comes down to a question of
who is best place to invest in this country, the
private sector or the state. The answer, of course is
(06:38):
a bit of both. But it's chicken or egg stuff
right now. One thing is for sure. If the only
thing capable of keeping this country afloat is government borrowing
like the last lot did, then we'll only ever end
up back in this same position over and over again.
The medicine needed to dig us out of this hole
(06:59):
is nasty, tastes disgusting, completely unpalatable, but the disease it's
treating was worse.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yes, so we seem to be at the here falling out,
puking your gats out every thirty minutes stage of the recovery,
which does make it hard to see the green shooks
when all you want to do is go back to bed. Okay,
So Wayne Brown, as part of his eff it's to
(07:32):
be re elected mayor of New Zealand's biggest city, he
really wants the rules change so he can charge a
bed tax in Auckland. Is this the only way out?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Brenda?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yes, Hi, guys, I'm really enjoying your show.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I really think New Zealand has to get into the
real world. If I've just come back from Europe and
the UK and we're planning another trip to the States
in a couple of weeks, every major city has got
a bead tax, and I think it's just the way
of the world. I think it needs to happen. And
you know, and when people stay in a hotel, they
look at the tariff, they budget for what they can afford.
(08:11):
And if you can't afford the bead tax, you shouldn't
be traveling, right And you.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Don't think that that's going to put people off coming
to No.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Not at all, No, not at all people want to
go to a concert. What's the difference between one hundred
and fifty dollars and one hundred and fifty five dollars?
An it won't stop them. No, I really think that
people can budget. They look at they look at you're
not honestly. When we go to Honolulu, there are hundreds
of dollars of resort fees and city taxes that are
(08:43):
put on the tariff. But does that stop most people
going on holiday?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
You just budget for what you can afford. And I
think New Zealand is like we're in Milan and we
were paying something like gosh, ten euro a day bad tax.
Rome's got it, Venice has got it, Paris has got it.
I just think I just think we need to do it.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, because we are sort of Rome, Venice, Milan and
Paris will rolled into one, don't we. So maybe we
should be charging forty euros.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
News talk z Bean.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Let's finish up here. This isn't really podcast re Late.
I started with podcast roulate once again. I haven't heard
this audio. I'm just going to play it. It's it's
called Marcus has cracked vacuuming. So I think it's pretty
clear what that's about I.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Got a lot to say about vacuuming. I've had a
breakthrough vacuuming. Here's what you do when you vacuum. If
you've got one long, big room to do, you plug
the vacuum into the central socket and then you pull
out all the cord to the very end of its
little spool. Then you proceed because so often what we
(10:04):
do is we plug the vacuum and then we drag it,
expecting the cord to self dispense, and next thing you know,
it's pulled the damn socket out of the plug out
of the socket. So always pull right to the end
of your extension before you start vacuuming. It's been life
changing for me. I've always found vacuuming frustrated, but now
(10:26):
I do that, I find it very freeing.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Wow, I've sort of had completely forgotten that there were
people out there who still have a vacuum cleaner with
a cord. Why would you do that? That there are
many stick vacuums out there.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
That can do the job.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And then of course you've got your robots so you
don't even have to do the vacuuming. Come on, Marcus,
it's not nineteen seventy two anymore A right regretting. I
actually regret the final bit of podcast let more than
I do the first one, the circus one. Who knows
(11:09):
if we'll play that again tomorrow maybe. Regardless, I'll be here,
so I hope you will too.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Used Talking Talking zied bean for more from Used Talk
sed B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. We're still trying to make
sense of a couple of poles that came out this week.
Chloe Swarbrick may have energized by the polling and maybe
that's why she sort of went off. And Parliament will
(00:48):
a bed text solve all of Auckland's problems and Marcus
Cract's vacuumenting. But before any of that, I have decided
to play podcast. Roulett's right at the beginning of the podcast,
this is unprecedented. It's risky, but goes wrong. You might
not listen to the rest of the podcast. Except for
all those other cool things that I said, we're going
to be on.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I have got some audio here that says HDPA Circus Editorial.
HDPA is Heather dup Allen. She's the drive host. I
don't know what circus this is about, but we're about
to find out. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, I can't blame you if your assessment of Parliament
today is that it's become a circus, because what happened
today is kind of hard to defend or we even explain.
Chloe was kicked out. Brownly suspended her for a week.
All of the government parties voted for that punishment, and
that includes New Zealand first before Winston Peters then got
up to tell Jerry Brownlee that the punishment wasn't fair,
(01:48):
even though he just voted for the punishment, and then
Debbie got up and said the C word again. Now
Chloe did actually break the rules. I mean, this is
another one of those seemingly arbitrary or hard to explain
rules in Parliament that MPs can't accuse each other of
being cowards. Nick Smith did it in two thousand and three.
He accused MPs of not across the House of not
having the spine to debate a vote. He withdrew and apologized.
(02:10):
Steve Chadwick did it in two thousand and seven. She
accused the Opposition of being absolutely gutless and spineless. She
withdrew and apologized. John Key did it in twenty fifteen,
quite famously, when he yelled at labor to get some
guts over the war, but he got away with it
and actually probably shouldn't have. So Chloe did break the rules.
But then Debbie got up and said the sea word
and she didn't break the rules. So explain that. How
(02:32):
is accusing other MPs of being spineless worse than dropping
the sea bomb in the House of Representatives. I mean,
sure one is aimed at someone, the other one is
just a swear word that's been dropped. But when you
get into explaining that level of nuance on offensiveness, I
think you've lost the audience. Plus, why is Jerry Brownly
all of a sudden the tough cop. I mean, this
is the guy who was wringing his hands over the
(02:53):
Maldi Party getting kicked out of Parliament for three weeks
for the hucker and David Seymour's face and for refusing
to turn up to the Privileges Committee and for then
leaking the recommended punishment from the Privileges Committee. But when
Chloe says basically the same thing that John Key once
said without punishment, Jerry comes down on her like.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
A to the bricks.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Frankly, none of this makes sense anymore. I mean it
does on a level of detail and minutia, sure, but
explaining it to a normal person no sense whatsoever. But
guess who's loving this? Chloe's loving this because Chloe's learned
from Tapasi Mahdi and the Hka that there's one sure
fire away to get attention, and that's to break the
rules of parliament and not be sorry. What a circus?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, so full disclosure, I had not listened to that
audio before I've played it to you, but I had
a sneaking suspicion that that's what Heather meant by by
a circus, or Heather's producer meant by calling that cat
(03:51):
a circus?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Has it been so anyway?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Chloe?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Is she the clown? Is she the ringmaster? Is she
the page of death with a motorbike?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Strive?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Running around and around? Pably not that last one. Actually,
I may have taken the analogy too far. What does
Carrie wouldn't think?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Unbecoming language and having to apologize to the house in
nineteen sixty six, the insults flew and the speaker was
kept very busy. Shut up yourself, your great ape, withdraw
and apologize, snotty nosed little boy, cheap little twerp and
ridiculous mouse were all considered unacceptable. Nineteen seventy seven, John
(04:37):
Boy was considered unacceptable, silly, old moo, racist, and sober up,
which could have applied to any one of a number
of MPs in nineteen seventy seven imagined, and so on
and so forth. We probably don't think many of those
insults were unparliamentary or unacceptable. I would say spineless fits
(05:03):
an alongside twerp or stupid, as Chris Bishop is supposed
to have called members of the opposition. I think stupid's
worse than spineless. There are many things I have criticized
and would criticize Chloe s Warbrick for calling her colleagues
across the house spineless, is not one of them.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think you see this from speakers from time to time.
They just lose their shit and then they won't back down,
and unfortunately it looks like that. I think that's what's
happened here, isn't it. I don't know. It's all out
of control. Give them all detention, make them write lines.
(05:46):
That's what I say.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Qu's talk sad, so you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Know who knows who the winners and losers ultimately are
out of all this, maybe we need another poll.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You can argue that National went too hard and fast
on cutting the spending and stopping infrastructure projects, but at
the same time they were voted in to stop wasteful
spending on dumb stuff. That's what we asked them to do.
Many think that hasn't actually gone far enough. Just yesterday
we learned of one hundred jobs going at the Reserve Bank,
(06:16):
which under Adrian Or wanted a budget of more than
a billion dollars and to keep twice the number of
staff that they started the pandemic with. Does that sound
reasonable to you? This comes down to a question of
who is best place to invest in this country, the
private sector or the state. The answer, of course is
(06:38):
a bit of both. But it's chicken or egg stuff
right now. One thing is for sure. If the only
thing capable of keeping this country afloat is government borrowing
like the last lot did, then we'll only ever end
up back in this same position over and over again.
The medicine needed to dig us out of this hole
(06:59):
is nasty, tastes disgusting, completely unpalatable, but the disease it's
treating was worse.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yes, so we seem to be at the here falling out,
puking your gats out every thirty minutes stage of the recovery,
which does make it hard to see the green shooks
when all you want to do is go back to bed. Okay,
So Wayne Brown, as part of his eff it's to
(07:32):
be re elected mayor of New Zealand's biggest city, he
really wants the rules change so he can charge a
bed tax in Auckland. Is this the only way out?
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Brenda?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Yes, Hi, guys, I'm really enjoying your show.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I really think New Zealand has to get into the
real world. If I've just come back from Europe and
the UK and we're planning another trip to the States
in a couple of weeks, every major city has got
a bead tax, and I think it's just the way
of the world. I think it needs to happen. And
you know, and when people stay in a hotel, they
look at the tariff, they budget for what they can afford.
(08:11):
And if you can't afford the bead tax, you shouldn't
be traveling, right And you.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Don't think that that's going to put people off coming
to No.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Not at all, No, not at all people want to
go to a concert. What's the difference between one hundred
and fifty dollars and one hundred and fifty five dollars?
An it won't stop them. No, I really think that
people can budget. They look at they look at you're
not honestly. When we go to Honolulu, there are hundreds
of dollars of resort fees and city taxes that are
(08:43):
put on the tariff. But does that stop most people
going on holiday?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
You just budget for what you can afford. And I
think New Zealand is like we're in Milan and we
were paying something like gosh, ten euro a day bad tax.
Rome's got it, Venice has got it, Paris has got it.
I just think I just think we need to do it.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, because we are sort of Rome, Venice, Milan and
Paris will rolled into one, don't we. So maybe we
should be charging forty euros.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
News talk z Bean.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Let's finish up here. This isn't really podcast re Late.
I started with podcast roulate once again. I haven't heard
this audio. I'm just going to play it. It's it's
called Marcus has cracked vacuuming. So I think it's pretty
clear what that's about I.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Got a lot to say about vacuuming. I've had a
breakthrough vacuuming. Here's what you do when you vacuum. If
you've got one long, big room to do, you plug
the vacuum into the central socket and then you pull
out all the cord to the very end of its
little spool. Then you proceed because so often what we
(10:04):
do is we plug the vacuum and then we drag it,
expecting the cord to self dispense, and next thing you know,
it's pulled the damn socket out of the plug out
of the socket. So always pull right to the end
of your extension before you start vacuuming. It's been life
changing for me. I've always found vacuuming frustrated, but now
(10:26):
I do that, I find it very freeing.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Wow, I've sort of had completely forgotten that there were
people out there who still have a vacuum cleaner with
a cord. Why would you do that? That there are
many stick vacuums out there.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
That can do the job.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And then of course you've got your robots so you
don't even have to do the vacuuming. Come on, Marcus,
it's not nineteen seventy two anymore A right regretting. I
actually regret the final bit of podcast let more than
I do the first one, the circus one. Who knows
(11:09):
if we'll play that again tomorrow maybe. Regardless, I'll be here,
so I hope you will too.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Used Talking Talking zied bean for more from Used Talk
sed B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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