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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Beanings, and welcome to the being for Wednesday, first of year,
Today's news. I am Glenhart, and we are looking back
to Tuesday. So it turns out those weight loss drugs
that everybody's been so excited about might have some bad
side effects. After all, Tyler has a you know how
(00:47):
they said there's no such thing as a stupid gridtion.
I'm pretty sure he's about to ask for and Marcus
talks crash detection while we're while we're talking cast but
before any of that, this idea of her rates cap
we're into that, are we?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Surely the governments, you know, they've done this too. They
can change the revenue levers and stop them pulling one,
but they haven't stopped them pulling the other. And actually,
if you look at it, this is exactly what the
government itself has been doing. We are seeing the rise
of the fee. Twenty twenty six will be the year
of the fee, the surcharge. The Coalition may have cut taxes,
(01:26):
but they are also overseeing one of the biggest hikes
in fees and charges of any government in recent history.
Road user charges, user pays, road tolls, congestion chargings, coming
fines are going up, immigration fees, airport fees, you name it.
If you can name it, chances are it's heading north.
(01:46):
It's a strategy. The top line number comes down, but
all the little bits that they hope we won't notice
go up. Councils will be no different. Add in the
water done well fee, which is separate from this, remember,
which will be massive also in some places. And the
reality is I think that no ratepayer will feel like
they're getting a better deal post cap band. The question
(02:10):
is whether this is a reason not to do it,
of course, and the answer is probably not. But it
should come with tempered expectations that we won't feel fleeced
when the council emails those pesky quarterly rates bills to us,
or worse, still charges you for sending a hard copy
by snail mail.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think people should be penalized for the hard copy thing.
What is it with people in their hard copies? Surely
if there can't be anybody who doesn't have an email
address anymore, come on, come on, guys, it's like the
twenty first century. Come on news talk ze Bean. Anyway,
(02:49):
no matter how you get your rates, it'd be good
if they just didn't keep going up and up and
up forever, wouldn't it?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Would that work? I mean, there's a lot of things
people don't use that others do. Could they have a
bare bones rate structure? Wouldn't be simply too too difficult
to implement. Once we get that little chip under our skin,
will be sweet. Can load up all sorts of things
(03:16):
on that just cidding. And at least in Auckland, you
know you can see what you're paying for, and I
assume it's the same if you're in Hamilton or Timadoo
or New Plymouth. You can actually see the projects when
you're paying rates. In places like, for instance, the jo Kianger,
(03:42):
we don't get rubbish collection. We don't have water that
comes from the sky.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We have.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Sewage that is collected on site and septic tanks, don't
have lighting any pest control I'm doing. You know, you
don't get a lot for your three thousand dollars. So
at least in the cities you can see what you're getting.
There'd be some of you paying rates wondering what on
if you're paying them for. So I'd be very interested
(04:11):
to hear your rates stories. Could you have Would it
be too difficult to implement?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Probably would, But would you like to see an option
you can have economy, business class or first class in
terms of what you pay for in rates and what
services you can access. Does a rates cap appeal to
you or can you see it just being a gradual
erosion of services and facilities?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We've already had the gradual erosion of services and facilities.
We've seen, you know, rubbish thins disappear, and booms not
being mode and parks being sold, and what is it
that they actually do for all the money that we
pay them? As you can, I think you can see
(05:02):
which side of the argument I'm I'm on, probably calmedy angreen.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Youse talk sibn.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
All Right, so we've been watching various celebrities disappear before
our eyes over the last couple of years. I'm talking
about the weight life of drugs. Some people have had
some remarkable transformations. Now it turns out they might be killing.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Us if we funded these drugs for all the obese
people in this country. At the moment, it would cost
this country nine billion dollars a year. Nine billion dollars
is what we pay for all of our jails and
the staff who run them, the Ministry of Justice, the
whole court system, right customs, and our police force and
our entire defense force. That is how much money nine
(05:46):
billion dollars is. It is not affordable for us. It's
not a one off either. You don't just pay for
it for a year and everybody's fat problems are solved
and on we go with life and everybody can eat
what they want to. These drugs, according to the who
are meant for long term use. So that's nine billion
dollars every single year. And the minute these people come
(06:07):
off the drug because they get fat again, right, so
you have to keep funding it. Not a chance. Here's
the happy news. Though these drugs come off. Peyton will
start coming off patent in about three months through four
months time, which means that in short order you can
expect to buy knockoffs for knockoff prices, which means punters
who want to lose weight should be able to fund
it themselves. And that is ultimately where the buck should stop,
(06:28):
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, So, although they might be bad for us at
least we can afford them now. And it's not just
the celebrities that will in fatoring the potential mental health
issues and things that we've been warned about over the
last twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Cool musical.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Have you ever bought a new car? Just feel like
you're really flash If you can buy a new clack,
give them how much they depreciate as soon as you
drive it away. It's never made any sense to me,
but apparently it made sense, Tyler.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I was upset the stay was going to come, and
now the day has come. So I bought this new
vehicle three years ago and it's stunn me well, and
nothing major has gone wrong with it, but the day
has finally arrive that I have to go take it
in for a warren of fitness. Right, So a brand
new car you get, you get a warren of fitness
for three years. Then you've got to do what even
every normal person does and take it in it every year.
(07:20):
But here's my first question. I've got a couple of
questions here. Why you put together your man shake? That
looks very nice. By the way, you're very good at multitasking. Sorry, Tyler, No, No,
that's right, I know you were taking it all that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, I'm listening closely, but I'm just putting together my
man shake that I have at this time of the day.
But also I'm trying something new. I'm putting instant coffee
in with the manshake to try and make a hybrid
coffee man shake.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Okay, is that why it looks like liquid death at
the moment?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It doesn't look good.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
But anyway, Yah, good luck to right. And so first
question is, because I've got this warranty with the new car,
do I have to take it to a midsum issue
service center to get that warren of fitness? Nine two
nine two? You let mat down on the gap thing,
but usually you're pretty good. So is that part of
the warranty that I have to go take it to
those guys to get the warren of fitness? Because straight
(08:04):
up I don't want to do that because usually they're
pretty pricey and I don't know, they just do a
few things that I just don't know are needed.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
What's the term for it? When you take it to
the dealership, you know that you get your service done
at the big places.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is a word for it?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I can't remember what it.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Is there is a word, and I'm in that trap
at the moment. So because the other double whammy is
it's time again to take it into a service for
forty five thousand k or three years. So I've got
to get the war on a fitness. Then I've got
to get the service check. This is going to cost
me thousands, I just know it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So if you don't feel like reading the purchase agreement
on your car, what you should do is just get
a national talkback program and ask the callers to read
it for you.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Is that what's happening here?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Come on, Taylor, It'll all be written down. There should
have been explained to you when you bought it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh well, news talk zeb been all right.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Marcus versus technology, this is a sort of an ongoing battle.
Isn't it crash detection on his phone? He's got questions.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Well, the headline to this story is smart device alert
lead rescuers to remote Otago crash. And I saw that,
so I thought, oh, that must be a located beacon
because it is technolo. But it's it's dealing with technology
I don't know that you're all aware about. So I've
(09:29):
actually decided to it this to begin with, because I'd
be curious to know more about it, And either you'll
be curious or you'll know a lot about it already,
and in that case, you can tell me about it.
I kind of feel we've alluded to this before. But
the story says emergency services are alluded to a serious
crash on a remote Otago road by a smart device,
(09:51):
and this was in Buckland's Crossing, which is in the
middle of nowhere, northwest of Dean. I've been in the
Tiger Country. It's for every remote. It's not remote, but
you go on long, dusty roads to get there. The
person's gone to hostel has since been the chart discharged.
But what happened It says foreign emergency that perts technology
(10:13):
to supports technology which enables which delivers improved accuracy, enables
us to respond to emergencies at the quickest time possible.
So what actually happened is that on Apple phones and watches.
Now this is just me trying to extrapolate for this
the article. So if you have an Apple phone.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Or a watch.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
And it rapidly accelerates, sorry, if it rapidly decelerates or
rapidly rolls over and over, then the phone will detect
that there is a crash. It's actually probably more important
(10:57):
to tell this about but because what happens subsequently will
be important to know. And when a crash is detected,
the device sounds an alarm and displays an alert for
ten seconds, which can be dismissed by the owner. So
it's kind of an opt out scenario. But if that
owner doesn't respond, then emergency services are ultimately called off
(11:21):
with thirty second countdown. Yeah, and she is the clack
crash location with immediate emergency services. And apparently by twenty
twenty four December, there'd been five thousand, six hundred and
fifty one alert activations over twenty six months. So I
(11:42):
just was going to ask the question. It was a
two part question, if I can, did you know this
was a thing? It's a three part question. Did you
know this was the thing? Are you happy with it?
Because I'm ecstatic? And has it ever helped you? Have
(12:03):
you been in one of those situations where it has
got off?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I honestly feel like I'm working with a bunch of bloodites.
How could he not know that this is the thing.
Imagine how it's going to blow his mind when he
discovers that it's on a whole lot of smart watchers
as well. You don't even need your phone. How does
he not know this? I'm gonna I feel like I'm
(12:27):
going to have to start doing training courses for my
colleagues here at zeb to try and just bring them
into not even the twenty twenties, the twenty tens. Come on, guys,
imagine when they find out what podcasts are. I am
(12:47):
Glen Hat and I'll be back with one tomorrow. Thank
you for being satanically literate.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Us Talking Talk zed been. For more from news Talk
zed B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Beanings, and welcome to the being for Wednesday, first of year,
Today's news. I am Glenhart, and we are looking back
to Tuesday. So it turns out those weight loss drugs
that everybody's been so excited about might have some bad
side effects. After all, Tyler has a you know how
(00:47):
they said there's no such thing as a stupid gridtion.
I'm pretty sure he's about to ask for and Marcus
talks crash detection while we're while we're talking cast but
before any of that, this idea of her rates cap
we're into that, are we?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Surely the governments, you know, they've done this too. They
can change the revenue levers and stop them pulling one,
but they haven't stopped them pulling the other. And actually,
if you look at it, this is exactly what the
government itself has been doing. We are seeing the rise
of the fee. Twenty twenty six will be the year
of the fee, the surcharge. The Coalition may have cut taxes,
(01:26):
but they are also overseeing one of the biggest hikes
in fees and charges of any government in recent history.
Road user charges, user pays, road tolls, congestion chargings, coming
fines are going up, immigration fees, airport fees, you name it.
If you can name it, chances are it's heading north.
(01:46):
It's a strategy. The top line number comes down, but
all the little bits that they hope we won't notice
go up. Councils will be no different. Add in the
water done well fee, which is separate from this, remember,
which will be massive also in some places. And the
reality is I think that no ratepayer will feel like
they're getting a better deal post cap band. The question
(02:10):
is whether this is a reason not to do it,
of course, and the answer is probably not. But it
should come with tempered expectations that we won't feel fleeced
when the council emails those pesky quarterly rates bills to us,
or worse, still charges you for sending a hard copy
by snail mail.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I think people should be penalized for the hard copy thing.
What is it with people in their hard copies? Surely
if there can't be anybody who doesn't have an email
address anymore, come on, come on, guys, it's like the
twenty first century. Come on news talk ze Bean. Anyway,
(02:49):
no matter how you get your rates, it'd be good
if they just didn't keep going up and up and
up forever, wouldn't it?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Would that work? I mean, there's a lot of things
people don't use that others do. Could they have a
bare bones rate structure? Wouldn't be simply too too difficult
to implement. Once we get that little chip under our skin,
will be sweet. Can load up all sorts of things
(03:16):
on that just cidding. And at least in Auckland, you
know you can see what you're paying for, and I
assume it's the same if you're in Hamilton or Timadoo
or New Plymouth. You can actually see the projects when
you're paying rates. In places like, for instance, the jo Kianger,
(03:42):
we don't get rubbish collection. We don't have water that
comes from the sky.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We have.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Sewage that is collected on site and septic tanks, don't
have lighting any pest control I'm doing. You know, you
don't get a lot for your three thousand dollars. So
at least in the cities you can see what you're getting.
There'd be some of you paying rates wondering what on
if you're paying them for. So I'd be very interested
(04:11):
to hear your rates stories. Could you have Would it
be too difficult to implement?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Probably would, But would you like to see an option
you can have economy, business class or first class in
terms of what you pay for in rates and what
services you can access. Does a rates cap appeal to
you or can you see it just being a gradual
erosion of services and facilities?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We've already had the gradual erosion of services and facilities.
We've seen, you know, rubbish thins disappear, and booms not
being mode and parks being sold, and what is it
that they actually do for all the money that we
pay them? As you can, I think you can see
(05:02):
which side of the argument I'm I'm on, probably calmedy angreen.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Youse talk sibn.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
All Right, so we've been watching various celebrities disappear before
our eyes over the last couple of years. I'm talking
about the weight life of drugs. Some people have had
some remarkable transformations. Now it turns out they might be killing.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Us if we funded these drugs for all the obese
people in this country. At the moment, it would cost
this country nine billion dollars a year. Nine billion dollars
is what we pay for all of our jails and
the staff who run them, the Ministry of Justice, the
whole court system, right customs, and our police force and
our entire defense force. That is how much money nine
(05:46):
billion dollars is. It is not affordable for us. It's
not a one off either. You don't just pay for
it for a year and everybody's fat problems are solved
and on we go with life and everybody can eat
what they want to. These drugs, according to the who
are meant for long term use. So that's nine billion
dollars every single year. And the minute these people come
(06:07):
off the drug because they get fat again, right, so
you have to keep funding it. Not a chance. Here's
the happy news. Though these drugs come off. Peyton will
start coming off patent in about three months through four
months time, which means that in short order you can
expect to buy knockoffs for knockoff prices, which means punters
who want to lose weight should be able to fund
it themselves. And that is ultimately where the buck should stop,
(06:28):
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, So, although they might be bad for us at
least we can afford them now. And it's not just
the celebrities that will in fatoring the potential mental health
issues and things that we've been warned about over the
last twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Cool musical.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Have you ever bought a new car? Just feel like
you're really flash If you can buy a new clack,
give them how much they depreciate as soon as you
drive it away. It's never made any sense to me,
but apparently it made sense, Tyler.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I was upset the stay was going to come, and
now the day has come. So I bought this new
vehicle three years ago and it's stunn me well, and
nothing major has gone wrong with it, but the day
has finally arrive that I have to go take it
in for a warren of fitness. Right, So a brand
new car you get, you get a warren of fitness
for three years. Then you've got to do what even
every normal person does and take it in it every year.
(07:20):
But here's my first question. I've got a couple of
questions here. Why you put together your man shake? That
looks very nice. By the way, you're very good at multitasking. Sorry, Tyler, No, No,
that's right, I know you were taking it all that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No, I'm listening closely, but I'm just putting together my
man shake that I have at this time of the day.
But also I'm trying something new. I'm putting instant coffee
in with the manshake to try and make a hybrid
coffee man shake.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
Okay, is that why it looks like liquid death at
the moment?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It doesn't look good.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
But anyway, Yah, good luck to right. And so first
question is, because I've got this warranty with the new car,
do I have to take it to a midsum issue
service center to get that warren of fitness? Nine two
nine two? You let mat down on the gap thing,
but usually you're pretty good. So is that part of
the warranty that I have to go take it to
those guys to get the warren of fitness? Because straight
(08:04):
up I don't want to do that because usually they're
pretty pricey and I don't know, they just do a
few things that I just don't know are needed.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
What's the term for it? When you take it to
the dealership, you know that you get your service done
at the big places.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is a word for it?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I can't remember what it.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
Is there is a word, and I'm in that trap
at the moment. So because the other double whammy is
it's time again to take it into a service for
forty five thousand k or three years. So I've got
to get the war on a fitness. Then I've got
to get the service check. This is going to cost
me thousands, I just know it.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So if you don't feel like reading the purchase agreement
on your car, what you should do is just get
a national talkback program and ask the callers to read
it for you.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Is that what's happening here?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Come on, Taylor, It'll all be written down. There should
have been explained to you when you bought it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh well, news talk zeb been all right.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Marcus versus technology, this is a sort of an ongoing battle.
Isn't it crash detection on his phone? He's got questions.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Well, the headline to this story is smart device alert
lead rescuers to remote Otago crash. And I saw that,
so I thought, oh, that must be a located beacon
because it is technolo. But it's it's dealing with technology
I don't know that you're all aware about. So I've
(09:29):
actually decided to it this to begin with, because I'd
be curious to know more about it, And either you'll
be curious or you'll know a lot about it already,
and in that case, you can tell me about it.
I kind of feel we've alluded to this before. But
the story says emergency services are alluded to a serious
crash on a remote Otago road by a smart device,
(09:51):
and this was in Buckland's Crossing, which is in the
middle of nowhere, northwest of Dean. I've been in the
Tiger Country. It's for every remote. It's not remote, but
you go on long, dusty roads to get there. The
person's gone to hostel has since been the chart discharged.
But what happened It says foreign emergency that perts technology
(10:13):
to supports technology which enables which delivers improved accuracy, enables
us to respond to emergencies at the quickest time possible.
So what actually happened is that on Apple phones and watches.
Now this is just me trying to extrapolate for this
the article. So if you have an Apple phone.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Or a watch.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
And it rapidly accelerates, sorry, if it rapidly decelerates or
rapidly rolls over and over, then the phone will detect
that there is a crash. It's actually probably more important
(10:57):
to tell this about but because what happens subsequently will
be important to know. And when a crash is detected,
the device sounds an alarm and displays an alert for
ten seconds, which can be dismissed by the owner. So
it's kind of an opt out scenario. But if that
owner doesn't respond, then emergency services are ultimately called off
(11:21):
with thirty second countdown. Yeah, and she is the clack
crash location with immediate emergency services. And apparently by twenty
twenty four December, there'd been five thousand, six hundred and
fifty one alert activations over twenty six months. So I
(11:42):
just was going to ask the question. It was a
two part question, if I can, did you know this
was a thing? It's a three part question. Did you
know this was the thing? Are you happy with it?
Because I'm ecstatic? And has it ever helped you? Have
(12:03):
you been in one of those situations where it has
got off?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I honestly feel like I'm working with a bunch of bloodites.
How could he not know that this is the thing.
Imagine how it's going to blow his mind when he
discovers that it's on a whole lot of smart watchers
as well. You don't even need your phone. How does
he not know this? I'm gonna I feel like I'm
(12:27):
going to have to start doing training courses for my
colleagues here at zeb to try and just bring them
into not even the twenty twenties, the twenty tens. Come on, guys,
imagine when they find out what podcasts are. I am
(12:47):
Glen Hat and I'll be back with one tomorrow. Thank
you for being satanically literate.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Us Talking Talk zed been. For more from news Talk
zed B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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