June 6, 2024 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) We Should Probably Find Out/Of Sick Again/No Reason to Vote/Finally Fixing What's Broke/Public Humiliation Relived
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. They're going to fix up
the Holidays Act because apparently people are going off sick
all the time. Do we need to sort the local
body elections out because people are getting in and who
(00:46):
shouldn't be getting in or something potholes. They're pouring a
lot of money into potholes, so hopefully that'll stop them
reforming because they'll be full of money. And we've got
a funny baggage story Curtesy of Simon Barnett. But at
the beginning of the podcast, the Marjori Party, what exactly did.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They do wrong? I, For one thing, it's probably reached
a point with this issue where a broader inquiry can
be justified not only to restore public confidence in the
census and in election processes, but also for two party
Mardi and for John Tummaheady to have the opportunity to
be publicly cleared of wrongdoing. You see, there are several
(01:31):
issues with this. We have, for starters, several interrelated allegations
which are in themselves a little confusing and little murky.
We have a government department that is investigating, while a
legal representative for some of the workers at the center
of these allegations says that another government department, the MSD,
(01:53):
has acted improperly. And I think that having one government
department essentially investigating another department's role risks perceptions when it
comes round a lack of independence, at least in the
eyes of some voters.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Christopher Uckson says he's not ruling out a public inquiry,
but at the same time he probably needs to be
pretty careful to be seen not to be using as
yet unproven allegations for political advantage. So he suggests the
current processes need to be seen through. But I think
we probably need something broader. I think we need something broader,
something with clear terms of reference, something as transparent as possible,
(02:32):
because it is in the best interests of the voting public,
but also the best interests of clearing those who say
they've done absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've listened to news stories, to interviews to Jack There,
who was standing in for Heather was at the Radio
Awards with me last night, so she couldn't be doing
that show. And I still have got no idea what
the story is about.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Explain it to me, like I'm a twelve years old.
That's what I want. That's what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The news news talk z been.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I'll never ever understand how holiday pay is calculated.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Apparently people like part timers or.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
New employees get far too much holiday pay and sickly.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Apparently it needs sorting out. Apparently, I think, is that what.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm going to take a couple of well days because
I haven't used my ten days sickly and I only
work two days a week, and I've taken eight days
sick leave despite the fact i only work two days
a week. But I'm going to take what I'm entitled
to just lie in the sun and read a book.
I don't think that's fair. I think you should only
(03:53):
take it when you're sick or when your children are sick.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think ten days
sickly is an entitlement necessarily. I think it's insurance for
a few get so you don't take it as a
matter of course, and I think there are plenty of
(04:14):
cases where employers show a generosity beyond what they're legally
required to do if somebody does get genuinely sick with
a long term illness. Now, if you're a valued employee,
they will look after you.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, this is another thing, and I'm a bit confused
about I personally.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I don't think I really know anybody who takes advantage
how of their sick leave and uses it when they're
not sick. I guess it happens. I reckon if it happens,
then that workplace needs to have a good hard look
at itself. That it's so yucky that people don't want
to go there, and I'm looking for excuses not to.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Maybe I'm just.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Having far too much fun here at at this job
at five to five in the morning. You talk now
the way we vote in who we vote for and
local body elections, it's a bit fraud well according to
my husking anyway.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
So councils could do whatever they wanted, no checks, no balances.
This government wants to flip that law back now. Mistake one,
as I argued this week, by the councils is central government.
They say, at central government overreach, they forget. They are
the same councils who cry pour to governments over everything
from infrastructure to storm damage to GST collection. You can't
have it both ways. Central for the money, local for
(05:39):
the power. Mistake number two. The answer has been in
front of them all along. It's called democracy. Originally, before
they started jerrymandering the system, anyone could stand, still can
and if they got enough votes, guess what they were
elected Because not many Mari stood, some bright spark argued
race based policy was an answer, stacked the rules. Marray
got a different deal, and it's been downhill ever since.
(06:00):
When the rule is that anyone can stand, there are
no barriers, you have no problems, the freedom to stand,
the freedom to debate, the freedom to contest the vote.
It's a good, clean, clear system, and most importantly, a
level playing field. It's fair. When you mess with it,
you strike trouble. And here we are years later, trying
to untie the mess that race based bias creates. Keep
(06:21):
it simple, listen to the people value democracy, and you
might just find more people actually turn up to vote.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Well. Also, we have some decent people standing as well.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
If I don't like any of the people standing, which
was the case and the last local body elections.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Then I'm not going to vote for any of them.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I can't vote for somebody just because I should vote.
I've probably got that wrong as well. I've put a
lot of things wrong so far in this podcast. The
government's trying to do right and by fixing all the potholes.
Apparently there's a pothole epidemic and four billion dollars is
the cure.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
So what is the money actually going to be spent on.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Well, those are the pothole prevention funds. It's going to
go into those activities focused on preventing potholes from forming
in the first place. That's resealing the road, it's rehabilitating it,
which means digging it up and renewing the pavement. And
it's the important drainage work that's required along the sides
of the roads to stop water getting into the roading
(07:25):
surface and causing potholes to form. So this is about
preventing potholes. It's about resealing the roads. It's about making
sure that we can get keys where they need to
go quickly and safely.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
To be totally clear, is it also about repairing the potholes, well.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Look absolutely, but the real focus here is preventing them. Oftenately,
that's what we need to be doing, is preventing them.
That's the resealing of the roads, rehabilitating them. Yes, we
do also need to make sure when potholes do form
that we get out there quickly and also make sure
that they are repaired in a timely fashion to keep
motorists safe on the roads. But the real focus here
is on those really core activities which we want MZTA
(08:02):
and local councils focused on, which is resealing, rehabilitating, and
getting that water out of the roads by investing in
the drainage to protect that asset and keep using on
the safe on the road.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I saw a.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Road construction through working on a down pipe from a
motorway overpass.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
When I was driving into work this morning, which is.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Good because that particular bit of the overpass and heavy
rain just sends a cast for as long as I
can remember, a cascade of water down onto the traffic
below it like you're literally driving through a waterfall. If
(08:47):
there's heavy rain and they're fixing that, and I would
have thought that that would have been a bit of
a priority it's in one of the busiest on rams
than awkward and you and if it was raining heavily,
you just had.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
To drive through a waterfall like the thunderbirds. Yeah, thanking
of news talk z Beam.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's good, it's getting fixed. We're going to finish up
here with airport baggage. That's never going to get fixed.
That problem is it.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
I was on a flight with Jones to top Walk
going to see her family. We went viral to do
her and so it's a small plane. When they unload,
they unloaded onto a kind of like little Paul trolleys
which are towed bind attractor. Then they toe all those
five trolleys little things round to a collection area where
you're going and get your bags, and just when you
see your bag and identify you just pull it off
(09:35):
the trolley yourself.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Right.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
So I'm waiting there and I see a pair of
my underwear what And then I see a shirt of
mine just being flung out. People are going through the
bags and my bag is somehow ripped open, and people
are just basically sorting through my smalls to get to
their own bags. And it's like it's like a Junkyard
(09:59):
sailor jumble sale and it's my gear? Is this when
you're on Dancing with the Stars and they wanted to
some of his undies. I didn't even claim it. I
just stood going, who's that poorschemarker? Way until everybody just
visiting feverishly going to get for gears. How embarrassing are
you can? I?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Gary, gay guys Simon.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I was bloody driving and then he drove off the
road with your undy store mate.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Gary, You know what it.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Is when you start singing like Tom Jones, people are
going to throw did not.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you? Just don't do it in the airport?
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Good tip, Thank you, mate. I was so embarrassed, like
I wasn't making that up, Gary, it was I recognized
the underwe Stralia. I thought, oh my gosh, that's my
understand So I didn't go near the woman. Oh so embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
The good thing about is hoping in their holes and.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
I don't know, Look, don't even talk. I'm getting PTSD
thing about.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know what what I like to do when I've
been brutally embarrassed and humiliated in public, go on network
radio show and tell the entire country about it. I
find that really makes me feel less embarrassed. I am
a glean heart that has been newstalks I've been. How
(11:19):
We'll see you back here again with another one A
week in edition in tack Bumper, a weekend edition. I
don't know how bumper it's going to be, to be honest,
but anyway, it'll be an edition on Monday season.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
News Talk is Talking zid bean For more from news
Talk said b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. They're going to fix up
the Holidays Act because apparently people are going off sick
all the time. Do we need to sort the local
body elections out because people are getting in and who
(00:46):
shouldn't be getting in or something potholes. They're pouring a
lot of money into potholes, so hopefully that'll stop them
reforming because they'll be full of money. And we've got
a funny baggage story Curtesy of Simon Barnett. But at
the beginning of the podcast, the Marjori Party, what exactly did.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They do wrong? I, For one thing, it's probably reached
a point with this issue where a broader inquiry can
be justified not only to restore public confidence in the
census and in election processes, but also for two party
Mardi and for John Tummaheady to have the opportunity to
be publicly cleared of wrongdoing. You see, there are several
(01:31):
issues with this. We have, for starters, several interrelated allegations
which are in themselves a little confusing and little murky.
We have a government department that is investigating, while a
legal representative for some of the workers at the center
of these allegations says that another government department, the MSD,
(01:53):
has acted improperly. And I think that having one government
department essentially investigating another department's role risks perceptions when it
comes round a lack of independence, at least in the
eyes of some voters.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Christopher Uckson says he's not ruling out a public inquiry,
but at the same time he probably needs to be
pretty careful to be seen not to be using as
yet unproven allegations for political advantage. So he suggests the
current processes need to be seen through. But I think
we probably need something broader. I think we need something broader,
something with clear terms of reference, something as transparent as possible,
(02:32):
because it is in the best interests of the voting public,
but also the best interests of clearing those who say
they've done absolutely nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I've listened to news stories, to interviews to Jack There,
who was standing in for Heather was at the Radio
Awards with me last night, so she couldn't be doing
that show. And I still have got no idea what
the story is about.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Explain it to me, like I'm a twelve years old.
That's what I want. That's what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
The news news talk z been.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I'll never ever understand how holiday pay is calculated.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Apparently people like part timers or.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
New employees get far too much holiday pay and sickly.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Apparently it needs sorting out. Apparently, I think, is that what.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm going to take a couple of well days because
I haven't used my ten days sickly and I only
work two days a week, and I've taken eight days
sick leave despite the fact i only work two days
a week. But I'm going to take what I'm entitled
to just lie in the sun and read a book.
I don't think that's fair. I think you should only
(03:53):
take it when you're sick or when your children are sick.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't think ten days
sickly is an entitlement necessarily. I think it's insurance for
a few get so you don't take it as a
matter of course, and I think there are plenty of
(04:14):
cases where employers show a generosity beyond what they're legally
required to do if somebody does get genuinely sick with
a long term illness. Now, if you're a valued employee,
they will look after you.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, this is another thing, and I'm a bit confused
about I personally.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I don't think I really know anybody who takes advantage
how of their sick leave and uses it when they're
not sick. I guess it happens. I reckon if it happens,
then that workplace needs to have a good hard look
at itself. That it's so yucky that people don't want
to go there, and I'm looking for excuses not to.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Maybe I'm just.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Having far too much fun here at at this job
at five to five in the morning. You talk now
the way we vote in who we vote for and
local body elections, it's a bit fraud well according to
my husking anyway.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
So councils could do whatever they wanted, no checks, no balances.
This government wants to flip that law back now. Mistake one,
as I argued this week, by the councils is central government.
They say, at central government overreach, they forget. They are
the same councils who cry pour to governments over everything
from infrastructure to storm damage to GST collection. You can't
have it both ways. Central for the money, local for
(05:39):
the power. Mistake number two. The answer has been in
front of them all along. It's called democracy. Originally, before
they started jerrymandering the system, anyone could stand, still can
and if they got enough votes, guess what they were
elected Because not many Mari stood, some bright spark argued
race based policy was an answer, stacked the rules. Marray
got a different deal, and it's been downhill ever since.
(06:00):
When the rule is that anyone can stand, there are
no barriers, you have no problems, the freedom to stand,
the freedom to debate, the freedom to contest the vote.
It's a good, clean, clear system, and most importantly, a
level playing field. It's fair. When you mess with it,
you strike trouble. And here we are years later, trying
to untie the mess that race based bias creates. Keep
(06:21):
it simple, listen to the people value democracy, and you
might just find more people actually turn up to vote.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Well. Also, we have some decent people standing as well.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
If I don't like any of the people standing, which
was the case and the last local body elections.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Then I'm not going to vote for any of them.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I can't vote for somebody just because I should vote.
I've probably got that wrong as well. I've put a
lot of things wrong so far in this podcast. The
government's trying to do right and by fixing all the potholes.
Apparently there's a pothole epidemic and four billion dollars is
the cure.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
So what is the money actually going to be spent on.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Well, those are the pothole prevention funds. It's going to
go into those activities focused on preventing potholes from forming
in the first place. That's resealing the road, it's rehabilitating it,
which means digging it up and renewing the pavement. And
it's the important drainage work that's required along the sides
of the roads to stop water getting into the roading
(07:25):
surface and causing potholes to form. So this is about
preventing potholes. It's about resealing the roads. It's about making
sure that we can get keys where they need to
go quickly and safely.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
To be totally clear, is it also about repairing the potholes, well.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Look absolutely, but the real focus here is preventing them. Oftenately,
that's what we need to be doing, is preventing them.
That's the resealing of the roads, rehabilitating them. Yes, we
do also need to make sure when potholes do form
that we get out there quickly and also make sure
that they are repaired in a timely fashion to keep
motorists safe on the roads. But the real focus here
is on those really core activities which we want MZTA
(08:02):
and local councils focused on, which is resealing, rehabilitating, and
getting that water out of the roads by investing in
the drainage to protect that asset and keep using on
the safe on the road.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I saw a.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Road construction through working on a down pipe from a
motorway overpass.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
When I was driving into work this morning, which is.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Good because that particular bit of the overpass and heavy
rain just sends a cast for as long as I
can remember, a cascade of water down onto the traffic
below it like you're literally driving through a waterfall. If
(08:47):
there's heavy rain and they're fixing that, and I would
have thought that that would have been a bit of
a priority it's in one of the busiest on rams
than awkward and you and if it was raining heavily,
you just had.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
To drive through a waterfall like the thunderbirds. Yeah, thanking
of news talk z Beam.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's good, it's getting fixed. We're going to finish up
here with airport baggage. That's never going to get fixed.
That problem is it.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
I was on a flight with Jones to top Walk
going to see her family. We went viral to do
her and so it's a small plane. When they unload,
they unloaded onto a kind of like little Paul trolleys
which are towed bind attractor. Then they toe all those
five trolleys little things round to a collection area where
you're going and get your bags, and just when you
see your bag and identify you just pull it off
(09:35):
the trolley yourself.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Right.
Speaker 8 (09:37):
So I'm waiting there and I see a pair of
my underwear what And then I see a shirt of
mine just being flung out. People are going through the
bags and my bag is somehow ripped open, and people
are just basically sorting through my smalls to get to
their own bags. And it's like it's like a Junkyard
(09:59):
sailor jumble sale and it's my gear? Is this when
you're on Dancing with the Stars and they wanted to
some of his undies. I didn't even claim it. I
just stood going, who's that poorschemarker? Way until everybody just
visiting feverishly going to get for gears. How embarrassing are
you can? I?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Gary, gay guys Simon.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I was bloody driving and then he drove off the
road with your undy store mate.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Gary, You know what it.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Is when you start singing like Tom Jones, people are
going to throw did not.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you? Just don't do it in the airport?
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Good tip, Thank you, mate. I was so embarrassed, like
I wasn't making that up, Gary, it was I recognized
the underwe Stralia. I thought, oh my gosh, that's my
understand So I didn't go near the woman. Oh so embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
The good thing about is hoping in their holes and.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
I don't know, Look, don't even talk. I'm getting PTSD
thing about.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know what what I like to do when I've
been brutally embarrassed and humiliated in public, go on network
radio show and tell the entire country about it. I
find that really makes me feel less embarrassed. I am
a glean heart that has been newstalks I've been. How
(11:19):
We'll see you back here again with another one A
week in edition in tack Bumper, a weekend edition. I
don't know how bumper it's going to be, to be honest,
but anyway, it'll be an edition on Monday season.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
News Talk is Talking zid bean For more from news
Talk said b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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