May 7, 2025 • 14 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Sneakily Doing Pay Equity Before Anyone Notices/No Consequences/Get Out of My House and Stay Out/The Most Dangerous Appliance
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies,
and welcome to the bean to Thursday. First with yesterday's news.
I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday.
The rail protesters have been led off. I don't think
Ryan's very happy about that. Adult kids moving back in
(00:43):
with their parents. This is a bit of a scourge
of modern times and what's the most dangerous appliance.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
But before any.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Of that, pay equity. How is it that this is
twenty twenty five and we're still up and arms about this.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
This is significant. It should have been flagged with people
because it affects so many people, and yet no indication
whatsoever until yesterday that this was going to happen. Where
was it on the list of quarterly on the list
of the Prime Minister's action plan for the first quarter,
or even the second quarter or any quarter. It's just
popped up absolutely nowhere. It's taken everybody by surprise. And
(01:22):
what's more, they need to stop pretending in government that
this isn't being done in a hurry to have an
impact on the budget. This is being done in a
hurry to save money for the budget. We know that
because David Seymour said so yesterday. So everyone and especially
the National Party needs to pretend that this is being
done for some sort of principle, when actually what it's
being done for is to save billions and billions and
(01:44):
billions of dollars. The primary problem here, I think is cowardice.
It feels like these guys are rushing this through as
quickly as possible, with as little notice as possible, so
they do not have to own their own decision. They
should own it. It's not a bad decision, but they're
making it feel like a bad decision. And I'll tell
you what. Oppositions can sense weakness, and they know that
these guys are weak on this, and they're going to
strike on it. Which is why I think this government
(02:06):
is itself making this a defining moment.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Do you know this.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Feined biscuit tin that they keep pulling these proposed bills
out of I mean, for a start, it must be
very confusing for any Americans listening because of what they
think biscuits are. But also do we know what kind
of biscuits were in it, like was it a sampler?
(02:32):
Like was it a variety of biscuits or just one
kind of biscuit? Is there a bit of a ause?
You know how when you open those sorts of terms,
there's still that faint whiff of whatever was in there there.
I'd love a biscuit right now, News talk has it
been anyway? Carry wanted a word about this too, and
(02:55):
about the fact that this is all happening under urgency?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
What's the urgency?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Hasn't this been going on for years?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
What this is about is ensuring we're clear, transparent and
fear to ensure that where those claims are made they
relate to gender based ccrimination, that other issues to do
with pay and working conditions are raised during the normal
employment relations process. So either the bill that she worked
so assiduously on and took credit for in twenty twenty
(03:23):
was drafted poorly, or she's completely changed to mind about
its workability, or they didn't see through what the implications
might be. And again, when you pass bills under urgency,
which that was in twenty twenty and which this is now,
(03:43):
you get those gaps because you don't have time to
look at the far reaching consequences. Remember there's no regulatory
impact statement, so it was passed under urgency in twenty twenty.
Maggie Barry, at the time a National MP, harumped about
it and said, for heaven's sake, with COVID going on,
we're passing this under urgency. This is a nonsense. But
she still voted for it, as did National, and now
(04:07):
they're saying it's unsustainab and unworkable. What this looks like
is National stepping back from legislation they worked on, recommended
and pushed through the House, and in fact took credit
for it when it passed, so they can balance their books.
It gives their critics all sorts of opportunities to lamb
base the government for stealing from the poorest paid workers,
(04:29):
to give rebates to wealthy landlords and tax cuts to
the wealthy brocks. I actually happen to agree with the
restrictions that Brook van Velden is imposing. I think that
they make sense. But it's a unique gift that this
government has to make something right look so very very wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It is a bit of a.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Bet an odd one, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's almost like, oh, we'll just quickly do this and
hope that nobody notices. Is it what I don't understand
what's happening. Perhaps if I was a woman, I would understand.
Women's in the know what's going on. Just a man,
it's too complicated for me. Que's talk seven right, So
Ryan has noticed something else that I think probably the
(05:20):
people in power were hoping nobody would notice. They've just
led off a bunch of protesters. Despite causing chaos to
Wellington's public transport system.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
The Crown has walked away from, abandoned the prosecution of
more than twenty of these guys over the protests in Wellington.
These guys are now off on their merry little way.
They're from the Restore Passenger Rail group, remember them. Some
were awaiting retrial after juries couldn't come to a verdict
on whether they endangered transport. Hello, anyway, there's lots of
(05:56):
hands that should be in cuffs that will soon be
covered and glue again. How do we know this? They
told us. One of the nutters says he hopes the
crown decision sets a precedent that protesters won't be prosecuted
for future climate change activism. We had numpties sleeping in
coal carts trying to shut down the Stockton mine on
(06:18):
the West Coast over easter. Dangerous stuff, expensive stuff. I
remember a woman stuck in traffic on State Highway one,
missing her chemotherapy appointment at hospital because of these guys.
Their point, emissions are bad for the climate, But tens
of thousands of cars sitting idle stuck in traffic while
(06:39):
some climate hero gets us five seconds of TikTok fame
ab sailing onto a state highway would surely, if anything,
make those emissions worse. Also, did you know they hire
gas guzzling diesel vans to ferry them to and from
their stunts. Yeah, I found that out after the fact.
Hypocritical losers. Even Torri Farno said they were dumb. Torri Farno,
(07:03):
these people are not about climate solutions, They're about themselves.
I'm all for constructive discussion on how our small country
can play its part, But every time I see an
ambulance stuck in traffic chalk just because of some unnecessary
attention seeker like this, it makes me want to let
the planet burn just despite them. Sadly, the rest of
(07:24):
us can look forward to dealing with much more of
this in the months and years a hit.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
How many times has he seen an ambulance sucking traffic?
As I say, it happens to Ryde all the time.
I mean that is bad. Now, yesterday afternoon they were
back into this topic of adult kids moving back in
(07:51):
with their parents. I find this all very triggering. I
have a twenty four year old who is moving out
this weekend, but moving out for the third time, I might,
please don't let there be afore.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
So are you living with your folks at the moment, Johnny?
Speaker 7 (08:14):
So I'm actually living with my girlfriend's parents at the
moment in Auckland. But from about the age of I
think sixteen, when I first moved out, all the way
through to twenty four, I moved in and out with
my parents purely because of the living environments that I
was getting put into and just the cost of everything
(08:34):
sort of going up. And you know, my parents just
they always always, always always said, look, come back if
you need to. There's always going to be a room. Therefore,
you will help out room you need to. Of course,
you're sort to pay rent and pop out around the house.
But having that sort of lifeline and having that sort
of spare room that really helped me to sort of
get back to my bearings and get back to my
(08:54):
drowndings and really set me back up and put me
back where I need it to be.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
But then you currently they see you up back where
you need to be, but now you're living with your
part as parents.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Yeah. So my partner and I were doing long distance
for three years, and what we said was we sort
of but I was living in a small town for
my whole life twenty four years, and we had to
spread opportunity. And she had just finished her degree in Wellington,
so we had a streat upportunity to sort of move up.
So Auckland was Purpore and I just said, look, I
(09:25):
mean it's pretty much a no brain ame.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, no, no, I don't know where somewhere something went
wrong somewhere along the line and people started thinking that
this is an option. When I moved out of home,
I couldn't afford it, but I did it anyway. It
never even occurred to me that I could ever go back.
(09:54):
It was a good week if I had enough money
left over on Sunday to go to Angelo's Pizza and
get a nine ninety five pizza. Very occasionally I'd have
the I think it was might have been eleven nine,
twelve ninety five for the seafood pizza. They have more
expensive threat and ingredients on it. So satisfied to sit
(10:17):
in my flat on Sunday evening needing that in myself. Oh,
we should have said, sheared some of my flatmate.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Now that I think you're that news talk, has it
been right?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I know what you think you're You're wondering what is
the most dangerous supplying.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I can't think what it would be. Is it the iron?
Is it the vacuum cleaner? What do you think the
most dangerous household appliants would be?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And your reason?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
What was I thinking of that today?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I was thinking about that something that's dangerous. Spend a
lot of day up aer ladder. Actually I don't love
a ledder. I spend a lot of time up a
ladder with my laces undone, the whole time feeling or thinking. Gee,
I tell you what, I come undone because my laces
are undone, and that causes me to fall off my ladder.
(11:10):
I'll beating myself up out not doing those lasers. You
think I did have a lasers? No, so comfortable without them.
But what would be the most dangerous appliance within the
house and why do you think that would be? Yeah,
I'm not sponsored by ACC. I'm just curious how you're
(11:32):
injuring yourself around the home. I mean, there's the avantry
in burning yourself. Is that there's the eye and I
presume most of the injuries are burns.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I don't think the ladder is there an appliance?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It constitutes an appliance because they called fire engines appliances sometimes.
And when I say they, I mean people who write
news stories about fires. They also say stupid things like
the fire was well involved, which is something that nobody
ever says unless they're writing a news story as well.
(12:14):
But we're getting off topic. I think it's got to
be the toaster, isn't it, because we just never learn
with the toaster the curious exercise in the human condition
putting stuff in the toaster that's the wrong shape or
size for the toaster, and then you got to pop
(12:34):
it up and it's you can't quite get it out
of the toaster, and you know that you're going to
burn your fingers, but you do it anyway, and you
know you could be six or sixty, and you'll just
keep making that same mistaken you. There's something mind bending
(12:55):
about using a toaster that it'd be my pick. My
latest injury at home is I've got two nasty little
cuts on my left thumb from just from unscrewing the
top off a small bottle of lime juice metal metal lid,
(13:18):
and somehow, you know how they have those clicky things
that when you first undo it, somehow the metal could
have got a little burr on it which I didn't
know was there. And I just went to unscrew the
lid and sliced my thumb open in two different places.
And it's been very sore since I've done that. But
a bottle of lime juice is not an appliance either.
(13:40):
I don't think deshless last. But we're not on a
very long time, don't it? They sometimes do, don't They?
These last? But it's like I just don't want to
be parted from you, but we have to. I'm not
sure if it's such sweet sorrow or not, but regardless,
(14:00):
I'll be back here tomorrow. Who knows how long the
last bit will be? Then it be.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies,
and welcome to the bean to Thursday. First with yesterday's news.
I am Glen Hart and we are looking back at Wednesday.
The rail protesters have been led off. I don't think
Ryan's very happy about that. Adult kids moving back in
(00:43):
with their parents. This is a bit of a scourge
of modern times and what's the most dangerous appliance.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
But before any.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Of that, pay equity. How is it that this is
twenty twenty five and we're still up and arms about this.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
This is significant. It should have been flagged with people
because it affects so many people, and yet no indication
whatsoever until yesterday that this was going to happen. Where
was it on the list of quarterly on the list
of the Prime Minister's action plan for the first quarter,
or even the second quarter or any quarter. It's just
popped up absolutely nowhere. It's taken everybody by surprise. And
(01:22):
what's more, they need to stop pretending in government that
this isn't being done in a hurry to have an
impact on the budget. This is being done in a
hurry to save money for the budget. We know that
because David Seymour said so yesterday. So everyone and especially
the National Party needs to pretend that this is being
done for some sort of principle, when actually what it's
being done for is to save billions and billions and
(01:44):
billions of dollars. The primary problem here, I think is cowardice.
It feels like these guys are rushing this through as
quickly as possible, with as little notice as possible, so
they do not have to own their own decision. They
should own it. It's not a bad decision, but they're
making it feel like a bad decision. And I'll tell
you what. Oppositions can sense weakness, and they know that
these guys are weak on this, and they're going to
strike on it. Which is why I think this government
(02:06):
is itself making this a defining moment.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Do you know this.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Feined biscuit tin that they keep pulling these proposed bills
out of I mean, for a start, it must be
very confusing for any Americans listening because of what they
think biscuits are. But also do we know what kind
of biscuits were in it, like was it a sampler?
(02:32):
Like was it a variety of biscuits or just one
kind of biscuit? Is there a bit of a ause?
You know how when you open those sorts of terms,
there's still that faint whiff of whatever was in there there.
I'd love a biscuit right now, News talk has it
been anyway? Carry wanted a word about this too, and
(02:55):
about the fact that this is all happening under urgency?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
What's the urgency?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Hasn't this been going on for years?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
What this is about is ensuring we're clear, transparent and
fear to ensure that where those claims are made they
relate to gender based ccrimination, that other issues to do
with pay and working conditions are raised during the normal
employment relations process. So either the bill that she worked
so assiduously on and took credit for in twenty twenty
(03:23):
was drafted poorly, or she's completely changed to mind about
its workability, or they didn't see through what the implications
might be. And again, when you pass bills under urgency,
which that was in twenty twenty and which this is now,
(03:43):
you get those gaps because you don't have time to
look at the far reaching consequences. Remember there's no regulatory
impact statement, so it was passed under urgency in twenty twenty.
Maggie Barry, at the time a National MP, harumped about
it and said, for heaven's sake, with COVID going on,
we're passing this under urgency. This is a nonsense. But
she still voted for it, as did National, and now
(04:07):
they're saying it's unsustainab and unworkable. What this looks like
is National stepping back from legislation they worked on, recommended
and pushed through the House, and in fact took credit
for it when it passed, so they can balance their books.
It gives their critics all sorts of opportunities to lamb
base the government for stealing from the poorest paid workers,
(04:29):
to give rebates to wealthy landlords and tax cuts to
the wealthy brocks. I actually happen to agree with the
restrictions that Brook van Velden is imposing. I think that
they make sense. But it's a unique gift that this
government has to make something right look so very very wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It is a bit of a.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Bet an odd one, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's almost like, oh, we'll just quickly do this and
hope that nobody notices. Is it what I don't understand
what's happening. Perhaps if I was a woman, I would understand.
Women's in the know what's going on. Just a man,
it's too complicated for me. Que's talk seven right, So
Ryan has noticed something else that I think probably the
(05:20):
people in power were hoping nobody would notice. They've just
led off a bunch of protesters. Despite causing chaos to
Wellington's public transport system.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
The Crown has walked away from, abandoned the prosecution of
more than twenty of these guys over the protests in Wellington.
These guys are now off on their merry little way.
They're from the Restore Passenger Rail group, remember them. Some
were awaiting retrial after juries couldn't come to a verdict
on whether they endangered transport. Hello, anyway, there's lots of
(05:56):
hands that should be in cuffs that will soon be
covered and glue again. How do we know this? They
told us. One of the nutters says he hopes the
crown decision sets a precedent that protesters won't be prosecuted
for future climate change activism. We had numpties sleeping in
coal carts trying to shut down the Stockton mine on
(06:18):
the West Coast over easter. Dangerous stuff, expensive stuff. I
remember a woman stuck in traffic on State Highway one,
missing her chemotherapy appointment at hospital because of these guys.
Their point, emissions are bad for the climate, But tens
of thousands of cars sitting idle stuck in traffic while
(06:39):
some climate hero gets us five seconds of TikTok fame
ab sailing onto a state highway would surely, if anything,
make those emissions worse. Also, did you know they hire
gas guzzling diesel vans to ferry them to and from
their stunts. Yeah, I found that out after the fact.
Hypocritical losers. Even Torri Farno said they were dumb. Torri Farno,
(07:03):
these people are not about climate solutions, They're about themselves.
I'm all for constructive discussion on how our small country
can play its part, But every time I see an
ambulance stuck in traffic chalk just because of some unnecessary
attention seeker like this, it makes me want to let
the planet burn just despite them. Sadly, the rest of
(07:24):
us can look forward to dealing with much more of
this in the months and years a hit.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
How many times has he seen an ambulance sucking traffic?
As I say, it happens to Ryde all the time.
I mean that is bad. Now, yesterday afternoon they were
back into this topic of adult kids moving back in
(07:51):
with their parents. I find this all very triggering. I
have a twenty four year old who is moving out
this weekend, but moving out for the third time, I might,
please don't let there be afore.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
So are you living with your folks at the moment, Johnny?
Speaker 7 (08:14):
So I'm actually living with my girlfriend's parents at the
moment in Auckland. But from about the age of I
think sixteen, when I first moved out, all the way
through to twenty four, I moved in and out with
my parents purely because of the living environments that I
was getting put into and just the cost of everything
(08:34):
sort of going up. And you know, my parents just
they always always, always always said, look, come back if
you need to. There's always going to be a room. Therefore,
you will help out room you need to. Of course,
you're sort to pay rent and pop out around the house.
But having that sort of lifeline and having that sort
of spare room that really helped me to sort of
get back to my bearings and get back to my
(08:54):
drowndings and really set me back up and put me
back where I need it to be.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
But then you currently they see you up back where
you need to be, but now you're living with your
part as parents.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Yeah. So my partner and I were doing long distance
for three years, and what we said was we sort
of but I was living in a small town for
my whole life twenty four years, and we had to
spread opportunity. And she had just finished her degree in Wellington,
so we had a streat upportunity to sort of move up.
So Auckland was Purpore and I just said, look, I
(09:25):
mean it's pretty much a no brain ame.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, no, no, I don't know where somewhere something went
wrong somewhere along the line and people started thinking that
this is an option. When I moved out of home,
I couldn't afford it, but I did it anyway. It
never even occurred to me that I could ever go back.
(09:54):
It was a good week if I had enough money
left over on Sunday to go to Angelo's Pizza and
get a nine ninety five pizza. Very occasionally I'd have
the I think it was might have been eleven nine,
twelve ninety five for the seafood pizza. They have more
expensive threat and ingredients on it. So satisfied to sit
(10:17):
in my flat on Sunday evening needing that in myself. Oh,
we should have said, sheared some of my flatmate.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Now that I think you're that news talk, has it
been right?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I know what you think you're You're wondering what is
the most dangerous supplying.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I can't think what it would be. Is it the iron?
Is it the vacuum cleaner? What do you think the
most dangerous household appliants would be?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And your reason?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
What was I thinking of that today?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I was thinking about that something that's dangerous. Spend a
lot of day up aer ladder. Actually I don't love
a ledder. I spend a lot of time up a
ladder with my laces undone, the whole time feeling or thinking. Gee,
I tell you what, I come undone because my laces
are undone, and that causes me to fall off my ladder.
(11:10):
I'll beating myself up out not doing those lasers. You
think I did have a lasers? No, so comfortable without them.
But what would be the most dangerous appliance within the
house and why do you think that would be? Yeah,
I'm not sponsored by ACC. I'm just curious how you're
(11:32):
injuring yourself around the home. I mean, there's the avantry
in burning yourself. Is that there's the eye and I
presume most of the injuries are burns.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I don't think the ladder is there an appliance?
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
It constitutes an appliance because they called fire engines appliances sometimes.
And when I say they, I mean people who write
news stories about fires. They also say stupid things like
the fire was well involved, which is something that nobody
ever says unless they're writing a news story as well.
(12:14):
But we're getting off topic. I think it's got to
be the toaster, isn't it, because we just never learn
with the toaster the curious exercise in the human condition
putting stuff in the toaster that's the wrong shape or
size for the toaster, and then you got to pop
(12:34):
it up and it's you can't quite get it out
of the toaster, and you know that you're going to
burn your fingers, but you do it anyway, and you
know you could be six or sixty, and you'll just
keep making that same mistaken you. There's something mind bending
(12:55):
about using a toaster that it'd be my pick. My
latest injury at home is I've got two nasty little
cuts on my left thumb from just from unscrewing the
top off a small bottle of lime juice metal metal lid,
(13:18):
and somehow, you know how they have those clicky things
that when you first undo it, somehow the metal could
have got a little burr on it which I didn't
know was there. And I just went to unscrew the
lid and sliced my thumb open in two different places.
And it's been very sore since I've done that. But
a bottle of lime juice is not an appliance either.
(13:40):
I don't think deshless last. But we're not on a
very long time, don't it? They sometimes do, don't They?
These last? But it's like I just don't want to
be parted from you, but we have to. I'm not
sure if it's such sweet sorrow or not, but regardless,
(14:00):
I'll be back here tomorrow. Who knows how long the
last bit will be? Then it be.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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