November 10, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Oh, Everyone Apparently/Our Trains Are a Joke/It's What You Don't Say/Stop Helping Yourself
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the
week In edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and it's Saturday.
You get two days for the price of one on
the weekend edition. Oh and that's nowhere near as many
days as Auckland Rail is going to be out of action,
though we'll touch on that. Brighton is but commentated. His
(00:45):
commentate is that a is a verb, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Who commented on probably his three hundred and fiftieth tests
over the weekend. And Oliver Berkman has written a not
self help book. Sounds like my kind of book before
any of that. Oh, yes, the US election, while we were.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Has the dust settled a little bit? Are there still
lots of sort of angst meschinations going on?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Look, I think President Trump and I one, obviously, as
we all know, the electoral college, but we've won the
popular vote, and so to that end, I think this
has made this a bit more of a seamless election
than past elections here in this country. But we saw
our seeing votes of course come in. We just saw recently,
of course, over the past couple hours at President Trump
officially won the state of Nevada. So we're seeing certain
things come in to peruition here related to the election.
(01:34):
But by and large, the American people's attention is now
focused on what will President Trump do once he's sworn
in in January, and right now a lot of it
has to do with the transition. Who is President Trump
would be selecting for senior staff or key cabinet posts.
That's where the bulk of the attention is right.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Now, just before we get into taking that forward look
for the administration. What are your thoughts on the landslide.
Was this an embracing of Trump or was it a
rejection of the Democrats?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know, I think it's or I think part of
it was in a brace scene of President Trump, and
not only President Trump, but of his vision. I think
this a leuxture was less about a candidate more about
a vision, particularly his vision on the economy, inflation, and
border security. But also, and I think it's in addition that,
you know, the reality was the Democrat Party and Vice
(02:27):
President Harris were not resonating with borders out there.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah. Probably Obama was the last person to win an
election just on a vibe and not actually promising actual
things to make actual people's actual lives better.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
News talk has been.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Of course, people are worried about what a Trump presidency
means for them in terms of other countries around the world.
Like you knows as our exports to the US going
to be hit with all sorts of horrible roiffs and
stuff like that. So Mars Williamson he knows about this stuff.
Apparently he was watching things pretty close.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
The hindsight's twenty twenty. Of course, a lot of people
demonstrating it now. But did you see that landslide coming?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Ah? Yes, In fact, if you talk to Heather dopsy El,
and I already sent it to her several days in advance,
and they said, and I'll tell you why I predicted it.
It's no great magic or I'm no great guru. I'll
tell you why. I've been in politics for so long,
and I was thirty years a member of Parliament, And
what I can tell you is I've been on both
sides of the wave. The sweeping you into power and
(03:36):
the washing you out when it's time. And I tell
you what it's all to do with right direction wrong direction. Now,
it's not to do with personalities, because take Jasinda Ardern.
She won a huge electoral victory and then would have
taken a thrashing had she stayed saying for the whole
lots of people who at points where they were at
(03:56):
their peak. And then so it's not the personality, it's
not even the policy. It's to do with right direction
wrong direction. If the country is heading in the right direction,
if you're paying them comfortably, you're filling up with the guests,
and it's fine that the groceries are all right, your
kids are doing well at school, and you've got some
money left over for holiday, then you'll stay with the
(04:17):
current racing. It'll just roll on. But boy, when it
turns sour and it's hurting and you can't afford the mortgage,
or you're struggling and you're worried about whether your job
is going to get close down the moment you get
into that wrong direction stuff, it's time to punish people
who are in office, even if it's not their fault.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's to be like firing the coach of a sports
team when they're not performing, isn't it No matter how
useless the footnectual players are, it's the coach's fault, so
not making them get a players and sometimes it works.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
You talk zib right.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's always hard to find who exactly is the blame
when things are going wrong in local body administrations because
it seems like the mayor doesn't actually have any more
power than anybody else on the council. And then it
seems like there's a whole bunch of bureaucrats that are
actually just running things. In the case of the rail
(05:16):
system in Auckland, what an absolute cluster.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
It's not like a sold out concert at Eden Park.
Isn't challenging enough with our current public transport And of
course this is something that the CRL will improve. And
this is the issue at the heart of it all.
New infrastructure can breathe life into a city or region.
We want it. We just don't want to have to
live through the nightmare of building it. This is not
(05:40):
just an Auckland problem. The government has announced its preferred
plan for Wellington is to build two new tunnels to
funnel large numbers of cars into the central city. That's
going to be disruptive. As in christ Church this week,
there's real excitement about the stadium and the growth of
the city. Beautiful Dan christ Church, but what an ordeal
the last thirteen years have been. This week, Infrastructure Minister
(06:01):
Chris Bishop released a discussion document which outlines the Infrastructure
Commissions thinking for developing a thirty year NASH Infrastructure Plan.
The idea is to create a bipartisan approach to infrastructure
to plan, fund and deliver what the country needs but
also what it can afford. It's good, forward thinking, organized
approach to infrastructure. The plan should be delivered by the
(06:22):
end of twenty twenty five and it will provide a
pipeline which gives us a much clearer view of upcoming
projects and an understanding of what's involved for those impacted.
So bring on the upgrades and the improvements to our infrastructure,
but bring the people along with you. It's not that hard.
The government just has to consult, communicate and this is
the really important but compensate when appropriate those adversely impacted.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We've literally become a laughing stock. I know this because
I went to see Kiddy Fanagan, the comedian you might
know her from starring on the Israelian comedy fisk. I
went and saw her on Friday night and she made
a recon for ins to the fact that we would
just have no trains, given that she lives in Melbourne,
(07:16):
where they seem to have all sorts of options when
it comes to public transport. She seemed to find that
funny anyway, if you're wondering why, I started with two
segments from the Weekend Collective Show in this podcast. Normally
I like to break it up of that because there
wasn't much Jack Taye on Saturday morning because there was
(07:38):
this whole rugby game that got in the way, and
that rugby game was Grutner's. But it's three hundred and
fiftieth All Black Tests.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Congratulations on number three fifteen is bo.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Can you remember much about teat number one?
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Look, not a lot. It's very hazy. Funnily enough, I
probably remember Tests two, three and four with greater clarity
because that was a trip to Australia. The first test
was in close to it's against France. Other than the score,
I can't remember anything else, but I do remember going
on the tour to Australia was Australia under Alan Jones
(08:10):
for the first time, and we actually lost the series,
so it wasn't one of the great starts for my career.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
An auspicious start.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Do you remember feeling nervous in your early days as
a commentator.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, Look, I think I probably was because I've been
in radio up to that point for you know, around
about thirteen or fourteen years, and so the transition to television,
as you know is, you know, it's considerable. I think
it's more about what you don't say as opposed to
what you do say, and so I'm sort of thinking back,
(08:48):
and I'd imagine I would have been quite nervous about it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I've never mastered that not saying things wish I could.
I feel the same way. In music, Twilight, people like
Mark Knopfler and Eric Clapton and Dave Gilmore. You know,
they are the guitarists who know when not to play
rather than just pilling up all.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The space news talk. Has it been.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Actually just an extry?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Might be a bit like it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He's written a self help book about not doing things
they tell you to do in self help books.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Oliver, we should be clear at the start of this
this isn't self help. In fact, you're a bit of
a skiptic of self help.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Aren't you. Well, I don't mind the label. I've sort
of resigned to it at this point. I'm not offended
if it's shelved in that section. I'm just happy for
it to be shelved in a bookstore. But yeah, I mean,
what I'm trying to resist in this book, and in
the structure of this book too, if you want to
talk about that, is that risk that I think is
(09:47):
so present where people feel like, Okay, they've got a problem,
relationship isn't going well, or they procrastinate too much, or
they're too anxious about the news headlines, whatever it is.
So they then set out to kind of find some
system for fixing this and for making their lives totally different,
and they have all sorts of ambitions for how effect
(10:08):
this is going to be, and then it just all
goes wrong, or they put it off for months and
never get around to it, or it never really happens.
I wanted to write a book that was very explicitly
about doing things just a little bit differently, but doing
them right now in reality, in this kind of limited
finite situation that we find ourselves in as humans doing
(10:30):
stuff differently. Right in the middle of the too many
emails and the terrifying news headlines and the imposter syndrome
and your problem with distraction and procrastination and all the
rest of.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
It, you say that we've never lived in more anxious times.
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 8 (10:49):
I mean, I think what lends a lot of the
anxiety to our situation now is just the level of
connectivity right the degree to which you can find out
about things that are happening right around the globe. You
open up a social media app, you're connected to more
genuine and appalling human suffering than the greatest saints in
(11:12):
history ever even learned about, because you know they lived
before this level of connectivity. I also think that you know,
in our lives, in our personal hour working lives, we're
sort of beset by all these kind of infinite inputs.
There's no limit to the amount of email you could receive,
the amount of family obligations you could feel, the amount
(11:35):
of books you might feel you needed to read, articles
you know I needed to catch up on. It's just
the list just goes on and on and on. And
I think all of that leads us to this feeling
of like, well, we've got to try to get on
top of everything, we've got to try to sort our
lives out, but it's harder than ever to do so.
And in that gap, there's a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
He's onder something there, isn't it. I think people think
they've got power, more power than they hear. I think
that's one of the things that the engineer. And it's
sort of a false sense of you are having an
influence on things because you get to comment on everything,
you get to like or not like things. And back
(12:15):
in the old days, when white people were just peasants,
they just resigned themselves to the fact that they were
completely powerless over their lives and you just got on
with us. It was probably less stressful that you think.
I mean, certainly, ever since I got married, I just
conceded the fact that I had no power and no
(12:35):
say anything that sting for me, And yeah, it was
really it was quite blessedful. After that, you could be
onto something too. At Oliver Batman, all right, I am
a Glenn Hart that has been newstalk, said Bean, And
I don't know why I sounded so uncertain about who
I was there. It's Monday. It take a few days
to give these things sorted out. I we'll see you
(12:55):
back here again to morrow.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
News Talk Said Bean. For more from News Talk Said b,
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB, you Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the
week In edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and it's Saturday.
You get two days for the price of one on
the weekend edition. Oh and that's nowhere near as many
days as Auckland Rail is going to be out of action,
though we'll touch on that. Brighton is but commentated. His
(00:45):
commentate is that a is a verb, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Who commented on probably his three hundred and fiftieth tests
over the weekend. And Oliver Berkman has written a not
self help book. Sounds like my kind of book before
any of that. Oh, yes, the US election, while we were.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Has the dust settled a little bit? Are there still
lots of sort of angst meschinations going on?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Look, I think President Trump and I one, obviously, as
we all know, the electoral college, but we've won the
popular vote, and so to that end, I think this
has made this a bit more of a seamless election
than past elections here in this country. But we saw
our seeing votes of course come in. We just saw recently,
of course, over the past couple hours at President Trump
officially won the state of Nevada. So we're seeing certain
things come in to peruition here related to the election.
(01:34):
But by and large, the American people's attention is now
focused on what will President Trump do once he's sworn
in in January, and right now a lot of it
has to do with the transition. Who is President Trump
would be selecting for senior staff or key cabinet posts.
That's where the bulk of the attention is right.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Now, just before we get into taking that forward look
for the administration. What are your thoughts on the landslide.
Was this an embracing of Trump or was it a
rejection of the Democrats?
Speaker 5 (02:06):
You know, I think it's or I think part of
it was in a brace scene of President Trump, and
not only President Trump, but of his vision. I think
this a leuxture was less about a candidate more about
a vision, particularly his vision on the economy, inflation, and
border security. But also, and I think it's in addition that,
you know, the reality was the Democrat Party and Vice
(02:27):
President Harris were not resonating with borders out there.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah. Probably Obama was the last person to win an
election just on a vibe and not actually promising actual
things to make actual people's actual lives better.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
News talk has been.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Of course, people are worried about what a Trump presidency
means for them in terms of other countries around the world.
Like you knows as our exports to the US going
to be hit with all sorts of horrible roiffs and
stuff like that. So Mars Williamson he knows about this stuff.
Apparently he was watching things pretty close.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
The hindsight's twenty twenty. Of course, a lot of people
demonstrating it now. But did you see that landslide coming?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Ah? Yes, In fact, if you talk to Heather dopsy El,
and I already sent it to her several days in advance,
and they said, and I'll tell you why I predicted it.
It's no great magic or I'm no great guru. I'll
tell you why. I've been in politics for so long,
and I was thirty years a member of Parliament, And
what I can tell you is I've been on both
sides of the wave. The sweeping you into power and
(03:36):
the washing you out when it's time. And I tell
you what it's all to do with right direction wrong direction. Now,
it's not to do with personalities, because take Jasinda Ardern.
She won a huge electoral victory and then would have
taken a thrashing had she stayed saying for the whole
lots of people who at points where they were at
(03:56):
their peak. And then so it's not the personality, it's
not even the policy. It's to do with right direction
wrong direction. If the country is heading in the right direction,
if you're paying them comfortably, you're filling up with the guests,
and it's fine that the groceries are all right, your
kids are doing well at school, and you've got some
money left over for holiday, then you'll stay with the
(04:17):
current racing. It'll just roll on. But boy, when it
turns sour and it's hurting and you can't afford the mortgage,
or you're struggling and you're worried about whether your job
is going to get close down the moment you get
into that wrong direction stuff, it's time to punish people
who are in office, even if it's not their fault.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's to be like firing the coach of a sports
team when they're not performing, isn't it No matter how
useless the footnectual players are, it's the coach's fault, so
not making them get a players and sometimes it works.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
You talk zib right.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's always hard to find who exactly is the blame
when things are going wrong in local body administrations because
it seems like the mayor doesn't actually have any more
power than anybody else on the council. And then it
seems like there's a whole bunch of bureaucrats that are
actually just running things. In the case of the rail
(05:16):
system in Auckland, what an absolute cluster.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
It's not like a sold out concert at Eden Park.
Isn't challenging enough with our current public transport And of
course this is something that the CRL will improve. And
this is the issue at the heart of it all.
New infrastructure can breathe life into a city or region.
We want it. We just don't want to have to
live through the nightmare of building it. This is not
(05:40):
just an Auckland problem. The government has announced its preferred
plan for Wellington is to build two new tunnels to
funnel large numbers of cars into the central city. That's
going to be disruptive. As in christ Church this week,
there's real excitement about the stadium and the growth of
the city. Beautiful Dan christ Church, but what an ordeal
the last thirteen years have been. This week, Infrastructure Minister
(06:01):
Chris Bishop released a discussion document which outlines the Infrastructure
Commissions thinking for developing a thirty year NASH Infrastructure Plan.
The idea is to create a bipartisan approach to infrastructure
to plan, fund and deliver what the country needs but
also what it can afford. It's good, forward thinking, organized
approach to infrastructure. The plan should be delivered by the
(06:22):
end of twenty twenty five and it will provide a
pipeline which gives us a much clearer view of upcoming
projects and an understanding of what's involved for those impacted.
So bring on the upgrades and the improvements to our infrastructure,
but bring the people along with you. It's not that hard.
The government just has to consult, communicate and this is
the really important but compensate when appropriate those adversely impacted.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We've literally become a laughing stock. I know this because
I went to see Kiddy Fanagan, the comedian you might
know her from starring on the Israelian comedy fisk. I
went and saw her on Friday night and she made
a recon for ins to the fact that we would
just have no trains, given that she lives in Melbourne,
(07:16):
where they seem to have all sorts of options when
it comes to public transport. She seemed to find that
funny anyway, if you're wondering why, I started with two
segments from the Weekend Collective Show in this podcast. Normally
I like to break it up of that because there
wasn't much Jack Taye on Saturday morning because there was
(07:38):
this whole rugby game that got in the way, and
that rugby game was Grutner's. But it's three hundred and
fiftieth All Black Tests.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Congratulations on number three fifteen is bo.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Can you remember much about teat number one?
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Look, not a lot. It's very hazy. Funnily enough, I
probably remember Tests two, three and four with greater clarity
because that was a trip to Australia. The first test
was in close to it's against France. Other than the score,
I can't remember anything else, but I do remember going
on the tour to Australia was Australia under Alan Jones
(08:10):
for the first time, and we actually lost the series,
so it wasn't one of the great starts for my career.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
An auspicious start.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Do you remember feeling nervous in your early days as
a commentator.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Yeah, Look, I think I probably was because I've been
in radio up to that point for you know, around
about thirteen or fourteen years, and so the transition to television,
as you know is, you know, it's considerable. I think
it's more about what you don't say as opposed to
what you do say, and so I'm sort of thinking back,
(08:48):
and I'd imagine I would have been quite nervous about it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I've never mastered that not saying things wish I could.
I feel the same way. In music, Twilight, people like
Mark Knopfler and Eric Clapton and Dave Gilmore. You know,
they are the guitarists who know when not to play
rather than just pilling up all.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The space news talk. Has it been.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Actually just an extry?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Might be a bit like it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He's written a self help book about not doing things
they tell you to do in self help books.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
Oliver, we should be clear at the start of this
this isn't self help. In fact, you're a bit of
a skiptic of self help.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Aren't you. Well, I don't mind the label. I've sort
of resigned to it at this point. I'm not offended
if it's shelved in that section. I'm just happy for
it to be shelved in a bookstore. But yeah, I mean,
what I'm trying to resist in this book, and in
the structure of this book too, if you want to
talk about that, is that risk that I think is
(09:47):
so present where people feel like, Okay, they've got a problem,
relationship isn't going well, or they procrastinate too much, or
they're too anxious about the news headlines, whatever it is.
So they then set out to kind of find some
system for fixing this and for making their lives totally different,
and they have all sorts of ambitions for how effect
(10:08):
this is going to be, and then it just all
goes wrong, or they put it off for months and
never get around to it, or it never really happens.
I wanted to write a book that was very explicitly
about doing things just a little bit differently, but doing
them right now in reality, in this kind of limited
finite situation that we find ourselves in as humans doing
(10:30):
stuff differently. Right in the middle of the too many
emails and the terrifying news headlines and the imposter syndrome
and your problem with distraction and procrastination and all the
rest of.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
It, you say that we've never lived in more anxious times.
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 8 (10:49):
I mean, I think what lends a lot of the
anxiety to our situation now is just the level of
connectivity right the degree to which you can find out
about things that are happening right around the globe. You
open up a social media app, you're connected to more
genuine and appalling human suffering than the greatest saints in
(11:12):
history ever even learned about, because you know they lived
before this level of connectivity. I also think that you know,
in our lives, in our personal hour working lives, we're
sort of beset by all these kind of infinite inputs.
There's no limit to the amount of email you could receive,
the amount of family obligations you could feel, the amount
(11:35):
of books you might feel you needed to read, articles
you know I needed to catch up on. It's just
the list just goes on and on and on. And
I think all of that leads us to this feeling
of like, well, we've got to try to get on
top of everything, we've got to try to sort our
lives out, but it's harder than ever to do so.
And in that gap, there's a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
He's onder something there, isn't it. I think people think
they've got power, more power than they hear. I think
that's one of the things that the engineer. And it's
sort of a false sense of you are having an
influence on things because you get to comment on everything,
you get to like or not like things. And back
(12:15):
in the old days, when white people were just peasants,
they just resigned themselves to the fact that they were
completely powerless over their lives and you just got on
with us. It was probably less stressful that you think.
I mean, certainly, ever since I got married, I just
conceded the fact that I had no power and no
(12:35):
say anything that sting for me, And yeah, it was
really it was quite blessedful. After that, you could be
onto something too. At Oliver Batman, all right, I am
a Glenn Hart that has been newstalk, said Bean, And
I don't know why I sounded so uncertain about who
I was there. It's Monday. It take a few days
to give these things sorted out. I we'll see you
(12:55):
back here again to morrow.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
News Talk Said Bean. For more from News Talk Said b,
listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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