February 16, 2025 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
You Talk said Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome back
to the bean In the weekend edition, first with yesterday's news,
I am Glen Hart, and we are looking back at
Sunday and Saturday for the best days for weekends. You
don't get school lunches on Saturdays and Sundays, but we'll
talk about those. Super Rugby started on Friday, but we're
(00:43):
still going to talk about that. If you've got a
short attention span, you might have finished listening to this
podcast by now. And Rachel Hunter is back in the
country before any of that. David Seymour never left.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Your comments about polarization of politics. Some might say it's
a bit rich for a party that sits quite well
to the right.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, let's just ask what X stands for. Things that
you can actually find in the Labor Party constitution and
that the Labor Party of old also stood for, primarily
the simple idea that each of us are born equal,
that we have equal political rights, that democracy is the
way to control political power. It should only be wielded
(01:26):
by people subjects to frequent, free and fear democratic collections
with a secret ballot. I mean, this is all from
the Labor Party constitution and that's the kind of stuff
that we actually stand for. The point of my speech
on Friday is that it almost seems like those things
are radical in New Zealand today, when you've got the
(01:49):
likes of Departy Maldi who openly say that democracy is
not really that great and they don't support it. I see,
delightfully they've done their usual February fourteenth Valentine's thing of
putting up social media posts celebrating the violent murder of
Captain Cook. And then you come across to the Green
(02:10):
Party and they are outdicating not just a capital gains text,
but a wealth text where if you have something of
value then a percentag job. It gets clipped every year
as off right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Fine line with David Seymour, isn't it, Because sometimes he
seems to be doing an excellent job, you know, asking questions,
trying to push you know, common sense laws through and
that sort of thing, and then sometimes it's like he's
taking it a little bit too far. It's a bit
look at me, look at me, and it just reminds
me of when I was at school and teacher after
(02:43):
teacher used to say, you know, could do better if
you just applied himself in the right areas and as
a constant disruptive influence.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You know what I mean, News talk Zip Ben.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Of course, yes, he has made changes to the school
lunch program, and of course everybody still hates.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It for whatever reason. There are thousands and thousands of
kids who, without school lunches, would not be eating three
square meals a day. Even if you think it is
all the parent's fault in every single case, none of
those kids can choose their parents any more than we
choose ours. And he's the thing I think risks being
(03:22):
lost in this whole episode. Full ballies aren't just good
for the kids who would otherwise be going without. They're
good for all of us. At a moment in time
when our government is literally soliciting for ideas to drive
economic growth, there are few things that will drive our
future productivity in this country like better educational achievement. Kids
(03:46):
who are hungry do not learn. An investment in a
full belly today is an investment in growth in twenty
years time, It's an investment in skills in businesses, in innovation.
The new school lunch program is off to a lumpy start,
literally in many cases. And look tea, the thing issues
(04:08):
were inevitable. I really hope it'll improve, but I can
tell you this much. For all the concern over the
state of the books, the savings made from the school
lunch program are worth nothing if the kids don't eat.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It's so funny, is that?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Like?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I don't know if it's funny or tragic, but.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I certainly kind of been the only kid who sometimes
opened as lunch box and went, oh, no, this is gross.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I'm not eaning that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And that wasn't a lunch provided to me from the school.
That was what mum put in there. Don't get me
started on the cottage sheees and they've got jam sandwiches
and the state that they were in and the glad
rap by lunchtime you talk said, Okay, super Rugby. Several
games of notes over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Really only one game of note. I think you know
which one. I'm talking about, Blues and Chiefs last night.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Look, I don't think many would have given the Chiefs
much of a chance at fourteen six down at halftime,
but they came back and gave the defending champions a
bit of a bloody nose in the second half.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I know you a sideline for Scott. What did you
make of that?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Well, is this game was about moments, like big games
always are, and conceding that try just before halftime sort of.
I think the didn't do the Chiefs justice because they
played really, really well. I had put a lot of
pressure on the Blues. The Blues were hanging on and
then that one moment of desperation from cortez Ratima when
Mark Talia is trying to score a try, which I
think probably may have sealed the game if they got behind,
(05:40):
but I think it might have been eleven at that point.
It would have been really hard to see the Chiefs
find a way to back into it. But they hang
in there, and then all of a sudden they came
home on the back of what was an impressive bench.
Let's be honest. I mean there was one hundred fifty
caps I think all black caps I'm talking about here
coming off the bench to put pressure on and they
finished strong and look, the Blues will get better. But
(06:01):
for the Chiefs, a small little bit of redemption and
what turned out to be very similar conditions to last
year's superg thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He's right when you said not many people gave the
Chiefs much of a chance of coming back after going
to the half cut.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Obviously he hasn't talked to enough.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Chiefs fans stupid thing to say, come on, come on,
lift your game.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Do you think that these days we don't have quite
the attention span that we used to have. Everything seems
to be getting shorter, switching from one thing to another.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Apparently it can actually be like a scientific medical Diagnosislow.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Is almost the complete opposite of what we experience in
the digital world, and that's where we live most of
the time, isn't it. Dr Mark's research shows we've spent
an average of just forty seven seconds on any screen
before shifting our attention. She calls us kinetic attention.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Now.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Look, you can blame social media, the Internet, email, the
way apps are designed to manipulate our brains, but it's
still on us to decidne how we behave online. We're
as distracted as we let ourselves be. The more we
flick between screens, the more we multitask. Just generally in life,
the busier we are, the more we deplete our attention
(07:17):
capacity and executive functioning, we're just exhausting ourselves. In her
book Attention Span, Finding Focus for a Fulfilling Life, Doctor Mark,
is a huge amount of information on all of this,
but to summarize, if you want to reduce spress and tiredness,
she suggests you take breaks to do things like exercise,
do a crossroad, do some knitting, design your day around
it so that you do your hardest thinking when you
(07:38):
personally are most focused, and stick to a daily goal
to help you get to not get distracted.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
There are really.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Simple steps, but they do require conscious effort. Ironically, I
followed none of them when writing this comic piece. It
took forever, but I am hoping that if I throw
a little more clay this year, the flow will spread
to other areas of my life.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Forty seven seconds on any given screen dance depressing, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I can assure you my number is a lot higher.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And it's partly because I'm a slow reader but also
a very slow typer, and so domestic manager will say
to me something like, oh, can you just quickly look
up when such as struts or were such as searches
and okay, yep, yep on it and then I, you know,
type it in, look it up, and then I tell
(08:32):
her and she's don't worry about I already looked it
up a two minutes ago. Forget it. Very frustrating women
with me.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
She's a saint news talk has it been Rachel Hunter.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
She's probably a most famous model right.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And also famous in New Zealand for the trumpet d
and the p dub.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think she's been helping Huber Eats or somebody like
that deliver snacks to the beach, so that she's doing anyway.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
She's come back here and the Withers tuned to shit,
so I blame her.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
A lot of people feel like we are in a
real funk at the moment, Like we're in not like
a depression as such, but we're in a really kind of,
you know, tricky little period.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
What my senses is everybody watching the same news as well.
I'm watching because I think it's a broaden situation.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Isn't it like one? You think it's like a global thing?
Speaker 9 (09:32):
You mean I would think so, wouldn't you like? I mean,
it's it's interesting, but I think, you know, look everyone
ebbs and flows, like our careers flow, our life does.
We get changes, we get things that come in and
disrupt us and we're like, wow, this is amazing, and
you know, so it just it fluctuates. So how do
(09:54):
we how do we, in our best possible way move
through that in more.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Of a positive way?
Speaker 9 (10:01):
Yes, we can, you know, get you know, disgruntled and
things are hard and things just aren't fair sometimes that's
just the bottom line. But I think, you know, and
that's okay too, But I think fundament like, how are
we going to shift that? But at the same time, yeah,
you're you're going to say, oh, this isn't going right
and this isn't going and it's like yah yeah, yea yeah,
(10:21):
Like who wants to sit next to that all day long?
Like look at where you we live, Like look at
where people live here, you know. So I don't know. Yeah,
to me, I think it's you know, I don't know.
I don't want to spread that to every country, but
I think it's hard everywhere.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because look at the jobs.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
Look at what is a job now? You know how
it's Yeah, I mean, we could really go down a
rabbit hole here, Jack.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Like please please, I'm already.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
No, no, no, no, I'm not going down.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I'm not going to get you in trouble, I promise,
I promise you.
Speaker 9 (10:54):
No, I don't mind being in trouble. I always like
to be a little bit rebellious.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
So it's all good.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
See you've taken kind of You've got quite a spiritual
bent on that, like in being positive, and you're kind
of positive outlook, you.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Can not an annoying positive No no, not like peace,
love and happiness and love and light like. I don't
mean that, I mean like we sometimes things are not
fair absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, yeah, peace, love and happiness an always me too.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I hate it, but I do agree with her
that And that's something I've looked again on this podcast
as well.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
We seem to think that all the problems we face
in New Zealand, or New Zealand only problems, isn't it,
somebody in New Zealand is specifically result responsible for them.
And that's not necessarily the case. Some things are bigger
than us. I had to believe that there's things that
are bigger than New Zealand out here of it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I am a green hat.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You come back for another edition of the Biggest Podcast
Going and he thought, you're being tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'll see you then. How are your friends bring a friend?
Do you bring a friend to a podcast? If you
want talk
Speaker 1 (12:10):
For more from Newstalk st B, Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You Talk said Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome back
to the bean In the weekend edition, first with yesterday's news,
I am Glen Hart, and we are looking back at
Sunday and Saturday for the best days for weekends. You
don't get school lunches on Saturdays and Sundays, but we'll
talk about those. Super Rugby started on Friday, but we're
(00:43):
still going to talk about that. If you've got a
short attention span, you might have finished listening to this
podcast by now. And Rachel Hunter is back in the
country before any of that. David Seymour never left.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Your comments about polarization of politics. Some might say it's
a bit rich for a party that sits quite well
to the right.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well, let's just ask what X stands for. Things that
you can actually find in the Labor Party constitution and
that the Labor Party of old also stood for, primarily
the simple idea that each of us are born equal,
that we have equal political rights, that democracy is the
way to control political power. It should only be wielded
(01:26):
by people subjects to frequent, free and fear democratic collections
with a secret ballot. I mean, this is all from
the Labor Party constitution and that's the kind of stuff
that we actually stand for. The point of my speech
on Friday is that it almost seems like those things
are radical in New Zealand today, when you've got the
(01:49):
likes of Departy Maldi who openly say that democracy is
not really that great and they don't support it. I see,
delightfully they've done their usual February fourteenth Valentine's thing of
putting up social media posts celebrating the violent murder of
Captain Cook. And then you come across to the Green
(02:10):
Party and they are outdicating not just a capital gains text,
but a wealth text where if you have something of
value then a percentag job. It gets clipped every year
as off right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Fine line with David Seymour, isn't it, Because sometimes he
seems to be doing an excellent job, you know, asking questions,
trying to push you know, common sense laws through and
that sort of thing, and then sometimes it's like he's
taking it a little bit too far. It's a bit
look at me, look at me, and it just reminds
me of when I was at school and teacher after
(02:43):
teacher used to say, you know, could do better if
you just applied himself in the right areas and as
a constant disruptive influence.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
You know what I mean, News talk Zip Ben.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Of course, yes, he has made changes to the school
lunch program, and of course everybody still hates.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
It for whatever reason. There are thousands and thousands of
kids who, without school lunches, would not be eating three
square meals a day. Even if you think it is
all the parent's fault in every single case, none of
those kids can choose their parents any more than we
choose ours. And he's the thing I think risks being
(03:22):
lost in this whole episode. Full ballies aren't just good
for the kids who would otherwise be going without. They're
good for all of us. At a moment in time
when our government is literally soliciting for ideas to drive
economic growth, there are few things that will drive our
future productivity in this country like better educational achievement. Kids
(03:46):
who are hungry do not learn. An investment in a
full belly today is an investment in growth in twenty
years time, It's an investment in skills in businesses, in innovation.
The new school lunch program is off to a lumpy start,
literally in many cases. And look tea, the thing issues
(04:08):
were inevitable. I really hope it'll improve, but I can
tell you this much. For all the concern over the
state of the books, the savings made from the school
lunch program are worth nothing if the kids don't eat.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
It's so funny, is that?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Like?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I don't know if it's funny or tragic, but.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I certainly kind of been the only kid who sometimes
opened as lunch box and went, oh, no, this is gross.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I'm not eaning that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And that wasn't a lunch provided to me from the school.
That was what mum put in there. Don't get me
started on the cottage sheees and they've got jam sandwiches
and the state that they were in and the glad
rap by lunchtime you talk said, Okay, super Rugby. Several
games of notes over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Really only one game of note. I think you know
which one. I'm talking about, Blues and Chiefs last night.
Speaker 7 (05:04):
Look, I don't think many would have given the Chiefs
much of a chance at fourteen six down at halftime,
but they came back and gave the defending champions a
bit of a bloody nose in the second half.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I know you a sideline for Scott. What did you
make of that?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Well, is this game was about moments, like big games
always are, and conceding that try just before halftime sort of.
I think the didn't do the Chiefs justice because they
played really, really well. I had put a lot of
pressure on the Blues. The Blues were hanging on and
then that one moment of desperation from cortez Ratima when
Mark Talia is trying to score a try, which I
think probably may have sealed the game if they got behind,
(05:40):
but I think it might have been eleven at that point.
It would have been really hard to see the Chiefs
find a way to back into it. But they hang
in there, and then all of a sudden they came
home on the back of what was an impressive bench.
Let's be honest. I mean there was one hundred fifty
caps I think all black caps I'm talking about here
coming off the bench to put pressure on and they
finished strong and look, the Blues will get better. But
(06:01):
for the Chiefs, a small little bit of redemption and
what turned out to be very similar conditions to last
year's superg thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
He's right when you said not many people gave the
Chiefs much of a chance of coming back after going
to the half cut.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Obviously he hasn't talked to enough.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Chiefs fans stupid thing to say, come on, come on,
lift your game.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Do you think that these days we don't have quite
the attention span that we used to have. Everything seems
to be getting shorter, switching from one thing to another.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Apparently it can actually be like a scientific medical Diagnosislow.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
Is almost the complete opposite of what we experience in
the digital world, and that's where we live most of
the time, isn't it. Dr Mark's research shows we've spent
an average of just forty seven seconds on any screen
before shifting our attention. She calls us kinetic attention.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Now.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Look, you can blame social media, the Internet, email, the
way apps are designed to manipulate our brains, but it's
still on us to decidne how we behave online. We're
as distracted as we let ourselves be. The more we
flick between screens, the more we multitask. Just generally in life,
the busier we are, the more we deplete our attention
(07:17):
capacity and executive functioning, we're just exhausting ourselves. In her
book Attention Span, Finding Focus for a Fulfilling Life, Doctor Mark,
is a huge amount of information on all of this,
but to summarize, if you want to reduce spress and tiredness,
she suggests you take breaks to do things like exercise,
do a crossroad, do some knitting, design your day around
it so that you do your hardest thinking when you
(07:38):
personally are most focused, and stick to a daily goal
to help you get to not get distracted.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
There are really.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Simple steps, but they do require conscious effort. Ironically, I
followed none of them when writing this comic piece. It
took forever, but I am hoping that if I throw
a little more clay this year, the flow will spread
to other areas of my life.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Forty seven seconds on any given screen dance depressing, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I can assure you my number is a lot higher.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And it's partly because I'm a slow reader but also
a very slow typer, and so domestic manager will say
to me something like, oh, can you just quickly look
up when such as struts or were such as searches
and okay, yep, yep on it and then I, you know,
type it in, look it up, and then I tell
(08:32):
her and she's don't worry about I already looked it
up a two minutes ago. Forget it. Very frustrating women
with me.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
She's a saint news talk has it been Rachel Hunter.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
She's probably a most famous model right.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
And also famous in New Zealand for the trumpet d
and the p dub.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think she's been helping Huber Eats or somebody like
that deliver snacks to the beach, so that she's doing anyway.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
She's come back here and the Withers tuned to shit,
so I blame her.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
A lot of people feel like we are in a
real funk at the moment, Like we're in not like
a depression as such, but we're in a really kind of,
you know, tricky little period.
Speaker 9 (09:21):
What my senses is everybody watching the same news as well.
I'm watching because I think it's a broaden situation.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Isn't it like one? You think it's like a global thing?
Speaker 9 (09:32):
You mean I would think so, wouldn't you like? I mean,
it's it's interesting, but I think, you know, look everyone
ebbs and flows, like our careers flow, our life does.
We get changes, we get things that come in and
disrupt us and we're like, wow, this is amazing, and
you know, so it just it fluctuates. So how do
(09:54):
we how do we, in our best possible way move
through that in more.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Of a positive way?
Speaker 9 (10:01):
Yes, we can, you know, get you know, disgruntled and
things are hard and things just aren't fair sometimes that's
just the bottom line. But I think, you know, and
that's okay too, But I think fundament like, how are
we going to shift that? But at the same time, yeah,
you're you're going to say, oh, this isn't going right
and this isn't going and it's like yah yeah, yea yeah,
(10:21):
Like who wants to sit next to that all day long?
Like look at where you we live, Like look at
where people live here, you know. So I don't know. Yeah,
to me, I think it's you know, I don't know.
I don't want to spread that to every country, but
I think it's hard everywhere.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because look at the jobs.
Speaker 9 (10:40):
Look at what is a job now? You know how
it's Yeah, I mean, we could really go down a
rabbit hole here, Jack.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Like please please, I'm already.
Speaker 9 (10:51):
No, no, no, no, I'm not going down.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
I'm not going to get you in trouble, I promise,
I promise you.
Speaker 9 (10:54):
No, I don't mind being in trouble. I always like
to be a little bit rebellious.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
So it's all good.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
See you've taken kind of You've got quite a spiritual
bent on that, like in being positive, and you're kind
of positive outlook, you.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Can not an annoying positive No no, not like peace,
love and happiness and love and light like. I don't
mean that, I mean like we sometimes things are not
fair absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, yeah, peace, love and happiness an always me too.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I hate it, but I do agree with her
that And that's something I've looked again on this podcast
as well.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
We seem to think that all the problems we face
in New Zealand, or New Zealand only problems, isn't it,
somebody in New Zealand is specifically result responsible for them.
And that's not necessarily the case. Some things are bigger
than us. I had to believe that there's things that
are bigger than New Zealand out here of it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
I am a green hat.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You come back for another edition of the Biggest Podcast
Going and he thought, you're being tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'll see you then. How are your friends bring a friend?
Do you bring a friend to a podcast? If you
want talk
Speaker 1 (12:10):
For more from Newstalk st B, Listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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