September 18, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Best Just to Keep Your Head Down/GDP and the Average Kiwi/Striking Yourself Into Irrelevance/Chiptalk ZB
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said b
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Used Talk said be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, momenticul Beanies, and welcome to the Being for Friday.
First with yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. Talk host Jimmy Kimmel has
been sacked for saying what he thinks. That's just another
sign that America's going great. The GDP was worse than
(00:45):
everybody expected, but that's a bummer. Strikes continue and the
unions keep wanting to go on strike, and Marcus finds
out about another thing. He seems to have one thing
a week at the moment that he doesn't know about
that everybody else knows about. So we'll find out what
(01:05):
that is at the end of the podcast. The first
up we'll be will I want to watch out for extremism.
Look at everybody, it's dangerous out there. Get away from me.
You're extremists.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You had Tyler Robinson over in the US again. He
was in there. Another young guy Strong Views allegedly took
his granddad's gun to university to shoot and kill a
guest speaker. They reckon hear the risk remains low, but
the threat is growing. The most likely scenario would involve
a lone actor radicalized online through dangerous ideology and grievances.
(01:41):
And the cops said explicitly, this is you know, this
is something that is just one click away. It's not
hard to find. It's not like it's on some far
flung corner of the internet. Now, given all of this,
just think carefully about the stuff that is said on
social media, about grievances and about extreme language, and the
(02:02):
need to do something about it. A recent survey of
business leaders here found more worried about extremism then interest rates.
And I think most reasonable kiwis if they're not, they
should be as worried about it too. The cops' advice
this week is an update on some similar stuff that
they released after the mosque shootings. And you just hope,
(02:25):
like hell that we can figure out as a society,
figure out a way to talk and reason with one
another before something happens as bad or worse than that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, we're not quite the quite innocent little country that
we used to be, are we.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I mean we could be.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
If we wanted to be, if we just my whole motto,
my whole the losphy in life is kick your head
down and hope that nobody notices what you're doing, because
I'm not doing anything. And that's what I'm hoping that
nobody notices us.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But yeah, because when you've got extremism, you've got things
like the Charlie Kirk assassination. Of course, although maybe if
I said that, I would get iRED if I was
working in America.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I mean, I'm get vied anyway working here.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
It is not a sackable offense. In fact, I would
argue that it's fair for commentators, which he broadly is,
to point out if they think politicians are scoring political
points on grief, which I think some undoubtedly are. Now
that is not to excuse everything that has been said
about Charlie Kirk. There are way too many people online
and on television and on various other publications in the
US particularly who have celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder and have
(03:35):
suggested that he basically got what he was asking for.
I find that sentiment unacceptable, and in some cases I
do find it a sackable offense. But this is not
a sackable offense. What I object to here with what's
happened is that we have just flipped cancel culture, haven't
we whan For the longest time, people on the right
were scared to say the wrong thing because if they did,
(03:56):
then people on the left would get them canceled. We
have just reversed that. Now now it is people on
the left who are getting canceled by people on the right.
And it's presumably because it's the right that is largely
in power. And this includes, by the way, Jade Vance,
the Vice president, who has celebrated a mass doxing attempt
to find and name people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder.
This is not a good outcome for anyone. People on
(04:17):
the right should know better than this, because they have
lived through being the subject of cancel culture, and they
know how much it sucks. No one should be canceled
for saying something as off yes, but still as innocuous
as Jimmy Kimmel has.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, it's been a weird.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Transition, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That You've got a lot of right wingers who've been
going on for years about woke culture and how they
can't nobody can say anything anymore. And then once they
get into power, it turns out there are people who
can't say anything anymore, but they're actually not on their side.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Us talk side.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Again, Like I say, hopefully nobody notices me and I
can keep right and saying stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Now, Yeah, so GDP bad news, I mean, is it?
I suppose it is as usual.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I find it hard to find specific examples of how
this actually makes my personal life worse. But it would
be better if I was digging gold on the West coast. Apparently,
according to the Dave the Ragon to met entirely yesterday afternoon,
we are.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Digging a lot of gold out of New Zealand. And
you know, I think it's great. And those people that
have got those claims are making a lot of money,
believe you me right now, five thousand plus dollars and
ounce it's a good business to VM. But the average key,
we can't do that, you know, we're talking about like,
look for me personally, this is the first year I've
(05:49):
had to pay text. I'm a solo father with two kids,
and I'm paying tax to the government. Previously I got
text rebates. You know, you know, I'm bringing two kids
up by myself and all of a sudden they have
to pay six hundred bucks to the ID. That tells
me that you know, things have changed this I'm not
sure what you're.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Saying, Dave.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You you are paying, but you're saying that you've had
to pay more tax over and above.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
I work full time, Yeah, I work full time. You know,
I'm I paid a tax. I'm effected. I'm you know,
I'm paying a lot of tax. But you know, this
is the first year I've had to you know, and
you know, hello, I'm no working for families. I'm not.
I'm not. You know, that's fair enough. I want people
that are really struggling to get that money. But I'm
just saying there's things the dynamics of change in this
(06:35):
country and it's and it's really affecting the average Kiwi.
I'm not talking about the guys that are sipping you know,
seatral A target Kannauara again the ship. I'm talking about
the average Kiwi family, guys and girls that are just grafting.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Have you ever met this average Kiwi guy we keep
hearing about all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It sounds like a hard worker, that guy that should
pay them more.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Right, so, teacher strikes been sort of rolling out throughout
the week, sort of.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
A bunch of.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Horrible teenagers causing trouble a mound of my neighborhoods. Mar
think they're having fun, and I think is what they
were doing, But I bet they were causing trouble anyway.
We don't like that sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Do we.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Do strikes work?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Is there still a place for unions or is this
whole thing a big waste of time, money and resources?
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Still up to them if they want to have collective
bargaining and collective pay and collective conditions, that's their choice,
But for how many is there a little seed of
dart setting and thinking? Really the way New Zealand is
(08:02):
at the moment, the way the kids schooling has been
so severely disrupted over the lastast few years, our conditions
aren't that bad when you look around, When you look
around at what other people are earning and what other
people are doing, At what point do you think the
(08:24):
union's not for you? Back in the olden days, the
unions were all powerful, dominant, are really strong collective force,
and they wielded enormous power on the economy and on governments.
(08:44):
But they struck themselves and bullied themselves into irrelevance.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Certainly at the Mincihusking Brieffast, we've been I don't know
if we've been flooded with but we've received a lot
of correspondence from teachers who say that they're either not
part of the union or they don't support what the
union's been saying. But I mean that's all just anecdotal.
They're probably a minority.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
As I keep saying. It's a hard one, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Because some people are capable of sticking up for themselves,
making their own case when it comes to negotiating contracts
and pay rises.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And all that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And then there are people who would never be able
to do anything like that, and that's when they would
rather have a more powerful organization do that.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
On the other half, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Tricky, And once again I've just sort of said what
the problem is without any really offering any solutions, because.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's just how I roll news talk.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
Has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So Yeah, I've really demonstrated how ignorant I am about
things today, I think.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
But there's certain things that I do know about.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Last week Marc has revealed and I fount there's an
absolute shot, and to the point that I didn't actually
believe it when he said it, that he didn't know
what a soundbar was, and it was soliciting people to
bring in and explain that the concept of him. And
the more I thought about it, the more I thought, Nah,
he's just am to get people to ring. And next
(10:11):
time I see him, I might ask him about that.
We don't actually have that kind of a relationship, Marcus.
And and I'm not even sure he knows who I am.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I may have said.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Hello, cooked him in.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The bathroom at a couple of events, and.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
When I talked to him, like literally just said gooday
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
That's the bad story as that goes. Anyway. I'm a
big fan. But how can he not have never had
a proper crisp? What's that about?
Speaker 8 (10:43):
Another factory in Nelson is closing prosper sorry, proper crisps?
You know, I reckon the problem with proper crisps. No
one's ever heard of them? We do you ever seen
Edward for proper crisps? And what a stupid name for
a chip? Never ever heard of them, never tried them,
(11:07):
never heard of them, never say the jingle. I know bluebirds,
the word with the penguins. Never heard of proper chips?
Stupid name. So anyone knows the things?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Are they recent thing?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
It says in the pet craft in the Yarra Valley
or where is that? Sounds like an Australian place. Could
someone tell me the history of proper crisps?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Never heard of.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
It anyway, So there we go. Oh acquired by Griffins
in twenty twenty three. So if anything's got an anyone's
got anything to say about that. I've got no idea
what that is. I don't even know the A lot
of potatoes.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And Nelson do you think he said a snack of
chingy one that those are good? Can you still get Biggins?
With Biggins and Orion's? Can you still get Orion's? They
were the best chap. They're sticking in depth as they
would never break. There's nothing worse than breaking off your
chip and your dip and then you try and scoop
(12:14):
that out. That involves getting another utensil, which kind of
defeats the whole purpose of chips and dip. You just
leave it in there for somebody else to find. Or
if you are the person who finds a broken off
kip in there?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Do you eat it?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I guess there's nothing really wrong with it unless that
person was double dipping, and then potentially you're getting the
goobies off their half eaten chip. Complicated business chips, isn't it.
But anyway, Yeah, I was shocked to hear that Marcus
has never had a proper cress.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Surely he has. Guess he won't anymore. They're different to
kettle fries, though.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Aren't they.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh wow, now I'm sounding ship ignorant, as often happens.
I'm absolutely starving. My mouth's watering at the end of
the podcast, so it's time to leave. I'll see you
back here again after the weekend on Monday, the day
that usually becomes.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Used Talking Talking zi Bean. For more from Used Talk
zed B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said b
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, momenticul Beanies, and welcome to the Being for Friday.
First with yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. Talk host Jimmy Kimmel has
been sacked for saying what he thinks. That's just another
sign that America's going great. The GDP was worse than
(00:45):
everybody expected, but that's a bummer. Strikes continue and the
unions keep wanting to go on strike, and Marcus finds
out about another thing. He seems to have one thing
a week at the moment that he doesn't know about
that everybody else knows about. So we'll find out what
(01:05):
that is at the end of the podcast. The first
up we'll be will I want to watch out for extremism.
Look at everybody, it's dangerous out there. Get away from me.
You're extremists.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You had Tyler Robinson over in the US again. He
was in there. Another young guy Strong Views allegedly took
his granddad's gun to university to shoot and kill a
guest speaker. They reckon hear the risk remains low, but
the threat is growing. The most likely scenario would involve
a lone actor radicalized online through dangerous ideology and grievances.
(01:41):
And the cops said explicitly, this is you know, this
is something that is just one click away. It's not
hard to find. It's not like it's on some far
flung corner of the internet. Now, given all of this,
just think carefully about the stuff that is said on
social media, about grievances and about extreme language, and the
(02:02):
need to do something about it. A recent survey of
business leaders here found more worried about extremism then interest rates.
And I think most reasonable kiwis if they're not, they
should be as worried about it too. The cops' advice
this week is an update on some similar stuff that
they released after the mosque shootings. And you just hope,
(02:25):
like hell that we can figure out as a society,
figure out a way to talk and reason with one
another before something happens as bad or worse than that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, we're not quite the quite innocent little country that
we used to be, are we.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I mean we could be.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
If we wanted to be, if we just my whole motto,
my whole the losphy in life is kick your head
down and hope that nobody notices what you're doing, because
I'm not doing anything. And that's what I'm hoping that
nobody notices us.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
But yeah, because when you've got extremism, you've got things
like the Charlie Kirk assassination. Of course, although maybe if
I said that, I would get iRED if I was
working in America.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I mean, I'm get vied anyway working here.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
It is not a sackable offense. In fact, I would
argue that it's fair for commentators, which he broadly is,
to point out if they think politicians are scoring political
points on grief, which I think some undoubtedly are. Now
that is not to excuse everything that has been said
about Charlie Kirk. There are way too many people online
and on television and on various other publications in the
US particularly who have celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder and have
(03:35):
suggested that he basically got what he was asking for.
I find that sentiment unacceptable, and in some cases I
do find it a sackable offense. But this is not
a sackable offense. What I object to here with what's
happened is that we have just flipped cancel culture, haven't
we whan For the longest time, people on the right
were scared to say the wrong thing because if they did,
(03:56):
then people on the left would get them canceled. We
have just reversed that. Now now it is people on
the left who are getting canceled by people on the right.
And it's presumably because it's the right that is largely
in power. And this includes, by the way, Jade Vance,
the Vice president, who has celebrated a mass doxing attempt
to find and name people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder.
This is not a good outcome for anyone. People on
(04:17):
the right should know better than this, because they have
lived through being the subject of cancel culture, and they
know how much it sucks. No one should be canceled
for saying something as off yes, but still as innocuous
as Jimmy Kimmel has.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, it's been a weird.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Transition, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
That You've got a lot of right wingers who've been
going on for years about woke culture and how they
can't nobody can say anything anymore. And then once they
get into power, it turns out there are people who
can't say anything anymore, but they're actually not on their side.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Us talk side.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Again, Like I say, hopefully nobody notices me and I
can keep right and saying stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Now, Yeah, so GDP bad news, I mean, is it?
I suppose it is as usual.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I find it hard to find specific examples of how
this actually makes my personal life worse. But it would
be better if I was digging gold on the West coast. Apparently,
according to the Dave the Ragon to met entirely yesterday afternoon,
we are.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Digging a lot of gold out of New Zealand. And
you know, I think it's great. And those people that
have got those claims are making a lot of money,
believe you me right now, five thousand plus dollars and
ounce it's a good business to VM. But the average key,
we can't do that, you know, we're talking about like,
look for me personally, this is the first year I've
(05:49):
had to pay text. I'm a solo father with two kids,
and I'm paying tax to the government. Previously I got
text rebates. You know, you know, I'm bringing two kids
up by myself and all of a sudden they have
to pay six hundred bucks to the ID. That tells
me that you know, things have changed this I'm not
sure what you're.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Saying, Dave.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You you are paying, but you're saying that you've had
to pay more tax over and above.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
I work full time, Yeah, I work full time. You know,
I'm I paid a tax. I'm effected. I'm you know,
I'm paying a lot of tax. But you know, this
is the first year I've had to you know, and
you know, hello, I'm no working for families. I'm not.
I'm not. You know, that's fair enough. I want people
that are really struggling to get that money. But I'm
just saying there's things the dynamics of change in this
(06:35):
country and it's and it's really affecting the average Kiwi.
I'm not talking about the guys that are sipping you know,
seatral A target Kannauara again the ship. I'm talking about
the average Kiwi family, guys and girls that are just grafting.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Have you ever met this average Kiwi guy we keep
hearing about all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It sounds like a hard worker, that guy that should
pay them more.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Right, so, teacher strikes been sort of rolling out throughout
the week, sort of.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
A bunch of.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Horrible teenagers causing trouble a mound of my neighborhoods. Mar
think they're having fun, and I think is what they
were doing, But I bet they were causing trouble anyway.
We don't like that sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Do we.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Do strikes work?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Is there still a place for unions or is this
whole thing a big waste of time, money and resources?
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Still up to them if they want to have collective
bargaining and collective pay and collective conditions, that's their choice,
But for how many is there a little seed of
dart setting and thinking? Really the way New Zealand is
(08:02):
at the moment, the way the kids schooling has been
so severely disrupted over the lastast few years, our conditions
aren't that bad when you look around, When you look
around at what other people are earning and what other
people are doing, At what point do you think the
(08:24):
union's not for you? Back in the olden days, the
unions were all powerful, dominant, are really strong collective force,
and they wielded enormous power on the economy and on governments.
(08:44):
But they struck themselves and bullied themselves into irrelevance.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Certainly at the Mincihusking Brieffast, we've been I don't know
if we've been flooded with but we've received a lot
of correspondence from teachers who say that they're either not
part of the union or they don't support what the
union's been saying. But I mean that's all just anecdotal.
They're probably a minority.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
As I keep saying. It's a hard one, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Because some people are capable of sticking up for themselves,
making their own case when it comes to negotiating contracts
and pay rises.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And all that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And then there are people who would never be able
to do anything like that, and that's when they would
rather have a more powerful organization do that.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
On the other half, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Tricky, And once again I've just sort of said what
the problem is without any really offering any solutions, because.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's just how I roll news talk.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
Has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So Yeah, I've really demonstrated how ignorant I am about
things today, I think.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
But there's certain things that I do know about.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Last week Marc has revealed and I fount there's an
absolute shot, and to the point that I didn't actually
believe it when he said it, that he didn't know
what a soundbar was, and it was soliciting people to
bring in and explain that the concept of him. And
the more I thought about it, the more I thought, Nah,
he's just am to get people to ring. And next
(10:11):
time I see him, I might ask him about that.
We don't actually have that kind of a relationship, Marcus.
And and I'm not even sure he knows who I am.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I may have said.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Hello, cooked him in.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The bathroom at a couple of events, and.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
When I talked to him, like literally just said gooday
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
That's the bad story as that goes. Anyway. I'm a
big fan. But how can he not have never had
a proper crisp? What's that about?
Speaker 8 (10:43):
Another factory in Nelson is closing prosper sorry, proper crisps?
You know, I reckon the problem with proper crisps. No
one's ever heard of them? We do you ever seen
Edward for proper crisps? And what a stupid name for
a chip? Never ever heard of them, never tried them,
(11:07):
never heard of them, never say the jingle. I know bluebirds,
the word with the penguins. Never heard of proper chips?
Stupid name. So anyone knows the things?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Are they recent thing?
Speaker 8 (11:22):
It says in the pet craft in the Yarra Valley
or where is that? Sounds like an Australian place. Could
someone tell me the history of proper crisps?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Never heard of.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
It anyway, So there we go. Oh acquired by Griffins
in twenty twenty three. So if anything's got an anyone's
got anything to say about that. I've got no idea
what that is. I don't even know the A lot
of potatoes.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And Nelson do you think he said a snack of
chingy one that those are good? Can you still get Biggins?
With Biggins and Orion's? Can you still get Orion's? They
were the best chap. They're sticking in depth as they
would never break. There's nothing worse than breaking off your
chip and your dip and then you try and scoop
(12:14):
that out. That involves getting another utensil, which kind of
defeats the whole purpose of chips and dip. You just
leave it in there for somebody else to find. Or
if you are the person who finds a broken off
kip in there?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Do you eat it?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I guess there's nothing really wrong with it unless that
person was double dipping, and then potentially you're getting the
goobies off their half eaten chip. Complicated business chips, isn't it.
But anyway, Yeah, I was shocked to hear that Marcus
has never had a proper cress.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Surely he has. Guess he won't anymore. They're different to
kettle fries, though.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Aren't they.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh wow, now I'm sounding ship ignorant, as often happens.
I'm absolutely starving. My mouth's watering at the end of
the podcast, so it's time to leave. I'll see you
back here again after the weekend on Monday, the day
that usually becomes.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Used Talking Talking zi Bean. For more from Used Talk
zed B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio.
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