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November 15, 2024 16 mins

Popular relocation series Moving Houses has returned for a third season, a former All Black behind the wheel. 

The show isn’t one you’d expect to be as gripping as it is, but it turns out there’s plenty of space for danger and suspense when you’re moving a house on the back of a truck. 

After a colourful rugby career, Andy Ellis has honed his craft as a landscape designer, and has now taken over as host for the show. 

He told Francesca Rudkin that he really enjoyed meeting all the people involved in the show, from the truck drivers to the people moving their homes.  

“Their stories are actually really fascinating.” 

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
from News Talks AB.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Popular relocation series Moving Houses has returned for its third season.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's one of those.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
TV programs that shouldn't be anywhere near as good as
it is. It is a show about big houses on
the back of big trucks, moving very slowly, but somehow
Moving Houses captures all the elements you'd want in gripping TV, dangerous, suspense,
risk and reward. And taking over hosting duties is former
All Black turned landscaper Andy Allis. Andy has had a

(00:41):
colorful rugby career. He's about one hundred and fifty eight
appearances for the Crusaders, played twenty eight tests for the
Boys in Black, won the Rugby World Cup in twenty eleven,
and has spent time in Japan and other places. And
now he is on the Telly and Andy Allis joins
us now, Good.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Morning, Good morning, Thanks having me on.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
What do you love about this show Moving Houses? What
did you enjoy the most as you watch these homes
come together?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Literally? Honestly, when I reflect back on some of the
moves we did it it was always kind of the people.
It was the truck drivers, who are amazing. Bloke said,
they're incredibly clever. You know, this kind of number eight
why I'm mentally, nothing's ever a problem. They can always
get a house and to a certain place. It's amazing.

(01:27):
But also the people that were brave enough to kind
of to do it as well, you know, you know,
put their house on the back of a truck and
often move it into pretty remote locations. Their stories are
actually really fascinating as well. So yeah, I really enjoyed
the meeting all the people that were involved in it,
and I mean, obviously the moves themselves are pretty pretty
dramatic at times as well.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Would you move the house?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, no no. After seeing this, it's an
amazing way to do it, you know, especially if you're
trying to get a place into somewhere really sort of remote.
You know. Yeah, I don't know, I've I kind of
I really loved the idea of a giving one hundred
year old villa, you know, another hundred years if you will,

(02:11):
you know, because a lot of them are getting moved
moved away from sites where there's development taking place, and
you know, you can't build some of these beautiful old
places that are full of old nade of hard wood
and you know, beautiful features, and so there's a little
loving kid that still needs to go into them to
get them back to their former glory. But some of
the people put in a big shift and they just

(02:32):
came up amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Andy, how incredible are these truck drivers and the trucks.
I mean, did you have any idea about how these
trucks had hydraulic plates that could leave their houses around
tricky bits and things.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Not really, I'd watched a bit of the previous season,
you know, but when you actually experience it in real life,
I suppose it's quite mind blowing. And all the technology
is actually New Zealand tech. The trailers are built in Hamilton,
and these things, honestly, we a lot of the time
we're loading up at ten o'clock at night and then

(03:04):
we're just jumping the truck and we were into it
for ten twelve hours, you know. And the places that
these these houses can get to in these trucks and
trailers can get to is just phenomenal. You know, we're
lifting up over cars and busy streets, you know, at
two o'clock in the morning, or you know, we're having
to drop down you know, to get under power lines
and move around here and corners. And the amazing thing

(03:26):
is each of these wheels, like you said, the axles
and the wheels on the trailers move individually, so you
can really can swing these things around on ninety degrees.
So all of that stuff was pretty crazy to sort
of watch and be part of. And the beauty is
like we didn't have to set up any drama. There
was no Jeopardy set up, Like literally, you jump in
these things and you drive for twelve hours, like that's

(03:48):
going to happen, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I'm going to be honest. You could sort of see
the fear at times in your face, especially when you
kind of keep suggesting that the truck was sort of
very close to the edge of a road on the
passenger side of which you were on. I noticed that
it were very it was almost sort of a bit
of a nervous reaction to sort of remind the driver, eater,
we're very very close to the chi very close to
the edge here. There was a quite a bit of

(04:10):
that throughout the series.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Oh yeah, I tell you what I mean that the
show on last Sunday seven thirty TV one. Do you
like that little pluggin' well done.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
You're learning, you're learning.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, that was through the Nevist Valley, you know, and
that's the highest public road in New Zealand and a
house never been transported through there. So this is a
gravel road and there was sheer cliff drop offs for
hundreds of meters, and these truck drivers, you know, they
sort of say nothing really bothers them. They shrike their
shoulders and get on with it. But it's not too
sitting in the passengers state and you're looking down and

(04:41):
it's literally two centimeters the tires two centimes from the
cliff that you sort of start to worry a little bit.
And actually, this this Sunday, we do a move. I'm
not sure how much I'm allowed to give away, but
from Blenham to Farewell splits, so we've got to go
up and over Parkerka Hill. Oh my goodness. Okay, yeah,

(05:01):
that's quite a big house that gets cut in half.
And so it's the same sort of thing, but you know,
this one's at night, so it's probably a little bit
better because although you know, there's hundreds of meters of
dropped right away.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
So here's the thing. It is at times really stressful.
And as you say, these drivers are just so professional
and calm, but at times in the cab you're kind
of encouraging them along or you're sort of just mentioning
how close you are to the edge? Were there times
so shooting this series where you thought, eah, I just
need to be quiet here, I just need to be quiet.
They don't need to hear from me. This is quite stressful.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean I think I probably annoyed the truck
drive drivers a little bit three of the moves, you know,
sitting in a cab with me running shotguns for twelve hours.
I don't know if that's that's all that easy. And
I'm a mouthy halfback, but do you know I think
the beauty is I actually got on so well with
all of them. You know, we spend most of the
trip talking about is the truck driver's ex post, you know,

(05:59):
fully career or mine? So we would get on pretty well.
So if I did start to chat too much and
things started to get tight, they pretty quickly decided me
to put a lot on it just for a little
bit andy and until we get around this next But
you know, but because we we hit power lines that
snapped and stuff, so that can be it can be
pretty dangerous. So if I'm there asking them, you know, hey, yeah,

(06:20):
what do we do now? You know track drives, Like,
we'll just stand in the cab and don't touch anything
because you could get electricated. You know, it's sort of
there are times that just had probably had just to
keep my mouth shut and just listen to what they said.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
How many road signs and trees were chainsawed down in
this series.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Lost count Lost Camp. But it is amazing because it's
actually really unique to New Zealand. So we don't realize
there's a lot of like light post you know lights
or all the signs around town and stuff. They actually
all pop up out of the ground and can lie
down so so houses can get through and then they

(06:55):
go and obviously put them back into place, but you
can unscrew all sorts of things. And our roads are
kind of made for moving, which which is pretty cool,
pretty unique as well. I reckon the.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Things you learn on a TV show, Andy, what percentage
of the houses would be sort of damaged on arrival?
Are we talking about a few scratches or does occasionally
a house lose a corner?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh? Yeah, no, No, most of them. Most of them
lose be able to gathering can there can be a
bit scratched. I mean, to be honest, a lot of
the time it's quite amazing. When they do arrival, it
actually looks, it looks really good. We had one where
a camper then actually crashes to the bottom of a

(07:40):
house that we're moving, so that sort of makes a
bit of a job of that. We had a few
cliffs and trees do a good job on it as well.
So most of them have got a few a few
little knicks and things out of them. But it's surprising
that there's nothing that can't sort of quickly be fixed
or put back into shape. You know. Again, these these
these drivers and movers are bloody clever. No they are.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
They're amazing, And I think you'd accept if it's an
old house, you're gonna have to do some work on
it when you get to its final resting spot. And
then a little bit of damage along the way is fine.
But on Sunday you were transporting a brand new expensive
homes and everything already installed. Did that add extra strets
to that move?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah? I think it does. Yeah, that's that's that's a
good point. So I mean we've moved a couple of
the pre built you know that get built on a
yard and shipped into really remote locations where you couldn't
get builders and subby sort of sort of into so
it kind of works really well in that space as well.
And yeah, I feel like there probably is a little
bit of extra pressure when it's all brand new and
you're trying to sort of sneak, you know, past branches

(08:45):
that are hanging out, or you know, there's there's a
lot of hazardous things that can you know, that can
put a few scratches on it. But I mean again,
these drivers, when you know, when it comes to the
new houses, I think were the ones that are built
in the yards, they probably take even more care to
them as well.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Did you manage to stay awake on these overnight journeys
better than Clark Gayford did?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I didn't sleep once. It was it wasn't easy. There
were times where you know, I had to I had
to dig pretty deep, have an extra red bull. But
now I managed to hang in there and stay awake,
So I was That's something I was pretty proud. Parke
was great, Like I gave him a call before the
show started and just asked them for some advice, and
he pretty much said to me, mate, I hope you

(09:27):
I hope you like trucks. I said, yeah, of course
I do. Yeah, I'm a bloke. I love trucks, you
know beauty. But no, he would narw know what he
really means. You have to love trucks, I can. You know,
it's a lot of times that in the cave of
the track.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Did you enjoy you know, presenting a TV show something
new for you?

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I did, Yeah, I loved it. It was. It was
pretty challenging though, Like early on, you know, I've done
a little bit of stuff, you know, with with some
of the Rugby stuff on that and around presenting, but
there was a little bit more relaxed and off the
cuffs this. You know, I had to I had to
work pretty hard to had to learn lines and scripts
and you know, often there was you know, a couple

(10:10):
of cameras and you know there's a director and a
producer and you know soundy all in behind the screen
that you can't see when you're watching the TV. And
it can be this takes a little bit of time
to get used to that. But you know that everyone
of the crew was so great. They were so patient
with me, and you know, and I worked really hard

(10:30):
and I learned quickly what I needed to do, and
you know, hopefully hopefully you see that and the shot itself.
You know, by the end of it, I felt really
a lot more natural, and I really enjoyed being able
to tell people's stories, you know, So it was it
was an honor.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's harder to walk and talk than people think, isn't
it right?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
And yeah, exactly, and you use your hands and gesture
things and and and you know, look down a camera
and you know, say things like you really really mean
them too. It's an important part of it too. You've
got to really believe what you're saying. So's there's a
lot of elements to it.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
What were some of the best tips that you were given.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, sort of sort of learn the script, you know,
learn what I want to say, but then kind of
kind of make it mine, you know, like, really believe
in it. And if you've changed the little bits and it,
you can. And I think once I got to meet
both the truck drivers and the and the people that,
you know, the families or couples that were doing it,
then I really bought into what they're saying, and I
was kind of a little bit more emotionally attached as well,

(11:31):
you know, and so that helped me deliver. You know
that I really was stoked for a young family that
are moving house.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
And that absolutely came across. I think you did a
really really good job. I think you have great TV energy,
and you were yourself, but you could see that connection.
You were genuinely interested in what was going on and
wonderfully terrified at times. So I appreciate you probably don't
want a critique, but there it is.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Ah, thanks, So that's good, I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
It can be really difficult to go from being a
professional sportsperson to finding another career, but it looks like
it's actually been quite easy for you. Was that because
you kind of always knew you were interested in landscape
design or you know, and had other things on the go.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Oh No, it's still pretty still pretty challenging coming out
of you know, professional sport. You know, I just I
got some really good advice from some of the some
of the old boys that have played, just just to
take my time to, you know, try and put some
money aside and give myself six months to find out
what I really wanted to do next. You had a
lot of coffees and meeting with people and stuff, and
you know, I was really open to new opportunities and

(12:31):
challenges and and and this was one of those that
sort of came up and kind of said yes to it.
And you know, here I am. But you know it's
still Yeah, it's a funny time for sure, when you
when you finish up playing rugby and and sort of
moving on to the next, the next career. You know,
a lot of your friends that you went to school
with have all worked their way up in different you know,
management roles or you know, if their trade is off

(12:54):
and running their own jobs and things like that. You know,
we're sort of starting afresh, so I suppose still like
me starting a fresh in this kind of presenting wrong.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
But you know, they haven't all played for the All
Black so you know, well we all do different things
at different that's all totally fine. Who is going to
win the rugby tomorrow morning? Do you think.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
All Blacks?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah? No? No, no, I mean, you know, watching both
England and Ireland tests, I reckon the All Blacks will
be a little bit probably disappointed in their actual performance.
You know, they left a lot of points out, they
cred a lot of stuff. But the one thing you
kind of take away from it is that real, that
real belief. And you know, they won that tough game

(13:35):
against England and they're pretty pretty good against Ireland too.
In that space like it looks like that raiz ef
fector of you know, we're going to win no matter what.
It's kind of starting to think and and I think
that's that's the exciting thing. And when they actually start
really you know, hitting their strips with with their rugby,
you know, all the passes stick and anything like that,
man that look out. So you know that that belief

(13:58):
and I've heard that. I've heard them talking about in
the camp, you know, and I've heard the coach talking
about it. You know, great character show. There's some real
belief in our group, everyone buying into what we're doing.
It's an exciting time. That kind of language is always
exciting as an All Black supporter because you know, you
know something pretty special coming.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Do you watch games and miss playing?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
No? Absolutely not. I watched games and I see the
big context and I squaw them on my chair sometimes,
But non, I miss I missed the mate ship and
all the you know, good mates. So I missed the
competition you know, on the big stage. I love that,
but it's enough for me, you know, to watch it

(14:40):
from the couch with the sideline having a coffee in
the morning. It's so good.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Rugby has given you so many opportunities though, and you've
been able to travel with the things. Are your kids
sporty yep?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
No, they love this sport. Yeah. No, no, my daughter's
into a netball and rowing and my son loves this
rugby and cricket and touch and everything. No, we know,
we're sportty family. We love it.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
So how do you approach sport in their lives? Sort
of encourage them or you know, but without sort of
being overboard. What's sort of your approach.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
With their kids? It's all about just having fun, you know,
get out there and love what they're doing. You know,
Sport's a great, great way to make, you know, really
lifelong friends. And so that's sort of thisage and courage
you know, get they work hard, have fun, enjoy it, compete.
I mean they're competed for little buggers anyways, you know.
So but but yeah, that's what it's like. And yeah,
we're lucky to have traveled, you know, been lived in

(15:31):
Japan and lived in New York and the States through
through my rugby So we've met some amazing people. And
I've got great mates that all you know, the uncles
and aunties to all you know, to the kids as well,
which is pretty cool. So they're always there for them too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Good to be back in christ each.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
So yeah, I mean that's great. I mean we're all
our family here. The kids love it. It's awesome, and
we love it as well. I do miss New York
a little bit, just a little word.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Really nice to talk to you, and congratulations on the
new gig. You do a really great job. I loved it.
As I said you at the beginning. I don't know
why this show. It's strangely compelling, this show. It works
really well.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, well I think it's it's really real, right, it's real,
and it's so unique to New Zealand, and you know,
you kind of get captured with the journey of these
people and the truck drivers and what we do. It's
and I think the other thing, like the reveal at
the end is really fascinating to you know, what did
it come up like and how much did it cost them?
And yes, there's a lot of really nice elements to moving,
as seven thirty TV one.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Look, he's doing my job for me now as well.
That was Andy Ellis. Moving Houses are screening on TV
in Z one and you can also creet it on
TV in Z plus.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
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