November 22, 2024 • 8 mins
Dune: Prophecy
10,000 years before the ascension of Paul Atreides, the Harkonnen Sisters combat forces that threaten the future of humankind and establish the fabled sect known as the Bene Gesserit. From the writer-producer of Haunting of Bly Manor, Diane Ademu-John (Neon).
Say Nothing
Jean McConville, a single mother of ten, is abducted from her home in 1972 and never seen alive again. Through the eyes of various Irish Republican Army (IRA) members, explore the extremes some people will go to in the name of their beliefs, the way a deeply divided society can suddenly tip over into armed conflict, the long shadow of radical violence for both victims and perpetrators, and the emotional and psychological costs of a code of silence (Disney+).
Endurance
Nat Geo documentary telling the story of a legendary feat of leadership and perseverance. Antarctic explorer Ernest Shackleton kept alive his crew of 27 men for over a year despite the loss of their ship in frigid pack ice. Over a century later, a team of modern-day explorers sets out to find the sunken ship (Disney+).
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
EDB twenty four minutes passed in on newstalk's 'b're with
Jack Tayman. It is screen time time on your Saturday morning.
Very excited about this one. We've got three fantastic news shows.
Chris Schultz is here with his recommendations in studio, and
these are three shows that I reckon. I'm gonna love Chris,
so I'm stoked about that. Let's begin with June Prophecy,
which is streaming on Neon.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Do you want the bad news?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, well maybe two out of three, two out of three.
I take two out of three.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, I'm like you massive June fan. Right Like, when
we came out of that horrible five month lockdown, the
first thing I did was go to a cinema and
see June one, and it blew my mind. Yeah, the
best sci fi movie we've seen. Earlier this year, they
repeated the track with June two, Bigger, better, weirder, noisier.
(00:56):
So studio executives have obviously said, kaching, let's make a
TV show, Let's make more of this, Let's give the
fans more. Because these have been such a hit in
the movie theaters. This has been troubled this show producers
have dropped out an evil and you dropped out. Yeah,
showrunners changed. This is a prequel, right, so it's set
(01:18):
ten thousand years before June. And this is the problem
when you're trying to fill in backstory where the movies
kind of hint at this stuff and it's just kind
of there, right, And then if you're going back and
trying to fill in those blanks, it's not really a story.
It's kind of fan service, right. So the first episode
of this is just a brutal historical explanation of things
(01:43):
that happened. The first twenty minutes is just voiceover really
of like someone opening a June encyclopedia and reading to
you what happened. It's it's honestly some of the hardest
TV I've ever had to sit through. Yeah, Okay, which
is a shame, right, because June is so cool. Of course,
like the mec in it, the toy that, like the
(02:03):
armor and.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And everything is amazing. Okay, but maybe if you're a
Dune fan, just avoid this one and just pretend it
never happened. Maybe that could ever the approach to June prophecy.
Probably yeah, Okay, well, I'm cautiously optimistic. The second pick
is going to be a bit more promising. Say Nothing
is an amazing book by Patrick Rad and Keith. I
think we've talked about it on the show before. It's
honestly one of my favorite nonfiction reads ever, and it's
(02:27):
just been adapted for a new show on Disney Plus.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, Patrick Rad and Keith does something kind of miraculous.
He takes these huge topics and he turns them into
page turners. He dies into these stories, like the opioid
crisis in America for years, and he talks to everyone,
but then he turns them not into historical times, but
into like almost that you're reading a movie.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah yeah, it's like yeah, he turns it almost like
it's they call it like literally nonfiction, literary nonfiction. Yeah yeah.
And so Say Nothing is the story of the Troubles.
It's a personal story from the troubles.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Right, yeah, So turning that story into a book is
hard enough. To then turn it that book into a
TV show is even more difficult, but they've done it.
Like this has about unlike June, it has about twenty
seconds of history. At the start, they just plunk you
in Northern Ireland. They say, here's where you're at, here's
what's going on, and then they just rip into this
story and it just fizzes, This crackles with energy and
(03:24):
life and it just draws you in immediately. It's about
two sisters at the center of this conflict who kind
of grew up with bank robberies and assassinations and bombings
going on and just wanted to be part of it
and had this real impact on what happened. So it
flips all over the place. They tell a story from
a vantage point of one of the sisters who's much
(03:46):
older and being interviewed, suspecting that this story would never
get told, so that's in there, and then they flash
back and show you what actually happened. You know what
makes us better? What the Irish accent? Oh yeah, it's
so good. It makes any TV show saying it just
adds a ten percent and I know that's really basic,
but it's the same with Bad Sisters. That's why I
(04:08):
love that show. It just it just makes it, saying
I almost need they're really thick in the show. I
almost had the subtitles on, but it's really good. This
is going to be like top five for me.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow, okay, great, So that's say nothing because the way
just for people who don't maybe know the background of
the book, and obviously the TV show, the way it
worked was I think it was Boston University. I could
have the university wrong there. But after the Troubles, they
had researchers go over because of course New England and
the US has a close connection, you know, the Irish
in New England, they're going to really close connection with Ireland,
(04:39):
and so they had archivists go over to Northern Ireland
and interview people who were intimately involved in the troubles
conflict on the proviso that those interviews would never be
publicly released. So they just said, we just want this
for the historical record. It's not going to be released
for decades until well after your death, you know, to
your family's not going to affected all that kind of thing.
But then I think there have been some legal challenges
(05:01):
around those actual archives. So once the kind of US
authorities found out that there were potentially potentially people who'd
been involved with murders during the troubles who had given
up interviews about that then all of a sudden they
were like, hang on, we want to listen to those
recordings as well. From journalistically, it was very complex.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And somewhere along the way, Patrick raden Keeps got his
hand this book and that's how we ended up with
the amazing TV show.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
This sounds sounds really good, so say nothing is on
Disney Plus. Also on Disney Plus very much looking forward
to this Endurance. Knew it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I picked this one for you. Yeah, this is incredible.
This is about the nineteen fourteen ship, the Endurance, inern
Ad Shackleton left Europe looking for the South Pole. He
wanted to be famous for finding the South Pole. You
got a crew of twenty four people. I don't think
it's any spoiler to say the boat got stuck in
ice and eventually sank, and they went on this endurance,
(05:54):
this incredible attempt at survival when for years. Yeah, so
this documentary is about that. The incredible thing is they
had a cameraman, Yeah, on the boat. They've got footage
of the boat sinking. It's all colorized and restored. Them
living on the ice. It's fascinating. But there's that, and
(06:15):
then parallel to that is a story of them looking
for the shipwreck. It's one of the last shipwrecks, yeah,
to be found. So on twenty twenty one team of
explorers during COVID went down. They're a great place to
be probably during that time on a boat in the
middle of nowhere. They kind of go through the same thing.
They get stuck in ice, They've got a submersible, they're
(06:36):
scanning the ocean floor. They're running up against these deadlines, weather,
all that kind of stuff. And again, I think we
all remember the headlines from that time. They don't have
a documentary if they don't find this thing. So the
reveal in this movie is just extraordinary. The footage is incredible,
but juxtaposed with the footage of these survivors at the
(06:59):
same time just kind of it brings these two stories
together to this kind of climax. I don't know, it's
a nerdy film. You know, it's a bit of a
nerdy film.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But but I feel like, I mean, everyone's everyone who
knows the story is a Shackleton man, right, I mean,
I just it's such a ridiculously, such a ridiculous and
epic story of survival. The leadership, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Just like rowing these boats across icy landscapes with no
food and like finding these deserted islands and then setting
off again because no one was there, Like it's yeah,
it's a it's a crazy story. And the fact there's
footage of so much of it and they kept it
during all that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, mind is that much on Frank Worsley, you know,
who's the Kiwi guy who was one of one of
Shackleton's central guys there they paid a fair but a
role with the photographs and stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I think he gets a mention.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah right, maybe he was. He was one of the
he was from one of the key guys on that.
On that Yeah, on the epic journey. So yeah, very good.
That sounds amazing too. So that's on Disney Plus. That's
Endurance Say Nothing is also on Disney Plus and June Prophecy,
I mean, Competer the other two. I'm gonna be honest, Chris,
(08:11):
it's a bit of a no brainer this week. But
that's on Neon. So maybe for the absolute most enthusiastic
Keen June fans, thank you so much, very good to
see him. Pasicals.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News talks ' b from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
EDB twenty four minutes passed in on newstalk's 'b're with
Jack Tayman. It is screen time time on your Saturday morning.
Very excited about this one. We've got three fantastic news shows.
Chris Schultz is here with his recommendations in studio, and
these are three shows that I reckon. I'm gonna love Chris,
so I'm stoked about that. Let's begin with June Prophecy,
which is streaming on Neon.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Do you want the bad news?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, well maybe two out of three, two out of three.
I take two out of three.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, I'm like you massive June fan. Right Like, when
we came out of that horrible five month lockdown, the
first thing I did was go to a cinema and
see June one, and it blew my mind. Yeah, the
best sci fi movie we've seen. Earlier this year, they
repeated the track with June two, Bigger, better, weirder, noisier.
(00:56):
So studio executives have obviously said, kaching, let's make a
TV show, Let's make more of this, Let's give the
fans more. Because these have been such a hit in
the movie theaters. This has been troubled this show producers
have dropped out an evil and you dropped out. Yeah,
showrunners changed. This is a prequel, right, so it's set
(01:18):
ten thousand years before June. And this is the problem
when you're trying to fill in backstory where the movies
kind of hint at this stuff and it's just kind
of there, right, And then if you're going back and
trying to fill in those blanks, it's not really a story.
It's kind of fan service, right. So the first episode
of this is just a brutal historical explanation of things
(01:43):
that happened. The first twenty minutes is just voiceover really
of like someone opening a June encyclopedia and reading to
you what happened. It's it's honestly some of the hardest
TV I've ever had to sit through. Yeah, Okay, which
is a shame, right, because June is so cool. Of course,
like the mec in it, the toy that, like the
(02:03):
armor and.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And everything is amazing. Okay, but maybe if you're a
Dune fan, just avoid this one and just pretend it
never happened. Maybe that could ever the approach to June prophecy.
Probably yeah, Okay, well, I'm cautiously optimistic. The second pick
is going to be a bit more promising. Say Nothing
is an amazing book by Patrick Rad and Keith. I
think we've talked about it on the show before. It's
honestly one of my favorite nonfiction reads ever, and it's
(02:27):
just been adapted for a new show on Disney Plus.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, Patrick Rad and Keith does something kind of miraculous.
He takes these huge topics and he turns them into
page turners. He dies into these stories, like the opioid
crisis in America for years, and he talks to everyone,
but then he turns them not into historical times, but
into like almost that you're reading a movie.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah yeah, it's like yeah, he turns it almost like
it's they call it like literally nonfiction, literary nonfiction. Yeah yeah.
And so Say Nothing is the story of the Troubles.
It's a personal story from the troubles.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Right, yeah, So turning that story into a book is
hard enough. To then turn it that book into a
TV show is even more difficult, but they've done it.
Like this has about unlike June, it has about twenty
seconds of history. At the start, they just plunk you
in Northern Ireland. They say, here's where you're at, here's
what's going on, and then they just rip into this
story and it just fizzes, This crackles with energy and
(03:24):
life and it just draws you in immediately. It's about
two sisters at the center of this conflict who kind
of grew up with bank robberies and assassinations and bombings
going on and just wanted to be part of it
and had this real impact on what happened. So it
flips all over the place. They tell a story from
a vantage point of one of the sisters who's much
(03:46):
older and being interviewed, suspecting that this story would never
get told, so that's in there, and then they flash
back and show you what actually happened. You know what
makes us better? What the Irish accent? Oh yeah, it's
so good. It makes any TV show saying it just
adds a ten percent and I know that's really basic,
but it's the same with Bad Sisters. That's why I
(04:08):
love that show. It just it just makes it, saying
I almost need they're really thick in the show. I
almost had the subtitles on, but it's really good. This
is going to be like top five for me.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow, okay, great, So that's say nothing because the way
just for people who don't maybe know the background of
the book, and obviously the TV show, the way it
worked was I think it was Boston University. I could
have the university wrong there. But after the Troubles, they
had researchers go over because of course New England and
the US has a close connection, you know, the Irish
in New England, they're going to really close connection with Ireland,
(04:39):
and so they had archivists go over to Northern Ireland
and interview people who were intimately involved in the troubles
conflict on the proviso that those interviews would never be
publicly released. So they just said, we just want this
for the historical record. It's not going to be released
for decades until well after your death, you know, to
your family's not going to affected all that kind of thing.
But then I think there have been some legal challenges
(05:01):
around those actual archives. So once the kind of US
authorities found out that there were potentially potentially people who'd
been involved with murders during the troubles who had given
up interviews about that then all of a sudden they
were like, hang on, we want to listen to those
recordings as well. From journalistically, it was very complex.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And somewhere along the way, Patrick raden Keeps got his
hand this book and that's how we ended up with
the amazing TV show.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
This sounds sounds really good, so say nothing is on
Disney Plus. Also on Disney Plus very much looking forward
to this Endurance. Knew it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I picked this one for you. Yeah, this is incredible.
This is about the nineteen fourteen ship, the Endurance, inern
Ad Shackleton left Europe looking for the South Pole. He
wanted to be famous for finding the South Pole. You
got a crew of twenty four people. I don't think
it's any spoiler to say the boat got stuck in
ice and eventually sank, and they went on this endurance,
(05:54):
this incredible attempt at survival when for years. Yeah, so
this documentary is about that. The incredible thing is they
had a cameraman, Yeah, on the boat. They've got footage
of the boat sinking. It's all colorized and restored. Them
living on the ice. It's fascinating. But there's that, and
(06:15):
then parallel to that is a story of them looking
for the shipwreck. It's one of the last shipwrecks, yeah,
to be found. So on twenty twenty one team of
explorers during COVID went down. They're a great place to
be probably during that time on a boat in the
middle of nowhere. They kind of go through the same thing.
They get stuck in ice, They've got a submersible, they're
(06:36):
scanning the ocean floor. They're running up against these deadlines, weather,
all that kind of stuff. And again, I think we
all remember the headlines from that time. They don't have
a documentary if they don't find this thing. So the
reveal in this movie is just extraordinary. The footage is incredible,
but juxtaposed with the footage of these survivors at the
(06:59):
same time just kind of it brings these two stories
together to this kind of climax. I don't know, it's
a nerdy film. You know, it's a bit of a
nerdy film.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But but I feel like, I mean, everyone's everyone who
knows the story is a Shackleton man, right, I mean,
I just it's such a ridiculously, such a ridiculous and
epic story of survival. The leadership, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Just like rowing these boats across icy landscapes with no
food and like finding these deserted islands and then setting
off again because no one was there, Like it's yeah,
it's a it's a crazy story. And the fact there's
footage of so much of it and they kept it
during all that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, mind is that much on Frank Worsley, you know,
who's the Kiwi guy who was one of one of
Shackleton's central guys there they paid a fair but a
role with the photographs and stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I think he gets a mention.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah right, maybe he was. He was one of the
he was from one of the key guys on that.
On that Yeah, on the epic journey. So yeah, very good.
That sounds amazing too. So that's on Disney Plus. That's
Endurance Say Nothing is also on Disney Plus and June Prophecy,
I mean, Competer the other two. I'm gonna be honest, Chris,
(08:11):
it's a bit of a no brainer this week. But
that's on Neon. So maybe for the absolute most enthusiastic
Keen June fans, thank you so much, very good to
see him. Pasicals.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News talks ' b from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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