December 6, 2024 • 8 mins
Heretic
Two young missionaries become ensnared in a deadly game of cat and mouse when they knock on the door of the diabolical Mr. Reed. Trapped in his home, they must turn to their faith if they want to make it out alive.
Our Little Secret
After discovering their significant others are siblings, two resentful exes must spend Christmas under one roof while hiding their romantic history.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack tam podcast
from News Talk st B down to.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Taking Away to the Dark.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
When you're singing a song.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
In Brocks, you gotta sing the words.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So despite being more than a decade old, this song
topped the Spotify Rapped charts as the Australian song that
Ossie's listened to the most this year. The track came
out in twenty thirteen and it still frequents the number
one spot on the ARIA charts. That is staying power,
isn't it, Folks. Later in the show, we're going to
be revealing the Kiwi song that Kiwi's loved the most.
(00:53):
I'm not going to be revealing my song because it
is absolutely shocking and I don't mean like and yeah,
it's just it's a shocking song. And I actually it's
all a bit of a mystery my Spotify and rap
this year. I don't believe I've ever listened to the
song about a stripper which turns out to be my
number one. Maybe more on that later anyway. Joining us
now to talk movies, Chris Schultz, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Good morning, Francesca. I'm not revealing my number one either
because my daughter hijacked my playlist and it's all Taylor swafts.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, well, that's okay, that's acceptable. Mine was hijacked by
an eighteen year old boy who likes hip hop, and
I now have my number one song about a stripper.
I don't even understand the lyrics. I was just absolutely mortified.
I was like, who is this? So I go and
listen to this song and I was just like, Holy moly, anyway,
(01:45):
let's move on. We're gonna talk about heretic Let's have
a listen to the trailer. Are you interested in learning
more about the Church of Jesus Christ, Come on it.
We just need to go home.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I won't if you wish to leave, but I want
you to choose which dor to go through based on
your faith.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So about this time of the year, Chris, most people
would you know, think, oh, yes, I'd love to watch
a Hugh Grant film. Let's pull out a romantic comedy.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Totally true. It is the wrong time of year to
be releasing a horror movie. This should have been released
two months ago. At Halloween. We're all going to the beach.
We're celebrating Christmas. The Christmas music is on at the
Malls who feels like going to a darkened cinema to
watch a horror movie. But yes, Hugh Grant is in this.
This is a huge change of pace for him. He's
(02:45):
always been the dapper English gentleman, the leading man in
a rom com, but he's been pretty open about Now
at sixty four, he's not really getting those opportunities anymore.
So he's doing some weird stuff. We last saw him
and Willie Wonka playing an umplumpa and here he is
playing true evil and who knew he's fantastic at it.
(03:07):
This is the best reason to get to a cinema
to see heretic Hugh Grant. He's using those tricks, so
I think that's what makes this so clever. He's using
those tricks that he used in those rom coms. The
wry smile, the kind eyes, the very welcoming gentle kind
of warmth he has he wins you over, and then
(03:29):
in this he's just giving it a twist and he's evil.
He's playing mister Reed, a kind of creepy man living
alone who invites two Mormon women, young woman doing God's
work spreading the message into his home and then sort
of sets these traps for them. I mean, the trailer
made this look like Sore meets Labyrinth. You know, they
(03:53):
sort of go on this religious journey. He takes them
on this kind of cat and mouse journey trying to
teach them about religion. This film has so much to say,
almost too much to say about religion. The the downside
of it is the monologues in it. They almost overuse
Hugh Grant a little bit less is often more in
(04:15):
these kinds of movies. But then he sort of launches
into these monologues about religion and why it's wrong. And
then he sort of has these metaphors where he's using
radiohead songs. He sings Radioheads, creep, he brings in Judge
our Binks from Star Wars. There's a whole five minute
sequence that equates monopoly to religion that I'm still kind
(04:36):
of getting my head around. So the first half of
the movie is all set up, and when you get
to the second half, it's great, but it just takes
a little too long to get there. But Hugh Grant fantastic.
I mean, this is I hope he does more of this.
He's just so good it. I really hope this is
like a new thing that he's just in like all
of the horror movies now because he's so good at it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
There's something a little bit different, some lighter christmasphere, we're
going to have it. Listen to the trailer for Our
Little Secret.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm spending the holidays with my boyfriend's family for the
first time.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
This is for you.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Look, it's his street talk that's from Easy.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Here's you all.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
He has a lot of family members too many to remember,
and his sister is also bringing someone I want you
to meet, Logan, my ex bost.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So my first question for you here, Chris, is did
you finish this film?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That is an excellent question. I uh going to respond,
I head it on in the background. Let's put it
that way. No, there are some bonkers Christmas movies around
this year. I read one complete Box Office disaster with
Chris Evans and the Rock trying to save Center, Hot
Frosty and Netflix rom com in which a woman falls
(05:57):
in love with a ripped snowman who comes to life.
But Our Little Secret is on Netflix. This might be
the weirdest one of them all. This is part of
the Lindsay Lohan comeback train that she's on she's made
a few Netflix movies now she's sort of her life out.
She was a tabloid disaster for a long time and
she's making movies again. She's actually a pretty good actor.
(06:20):
She's not the problem with Our Little Secret. The problem
is kind of everything else. It's just such a strange film.
It's got this weird opening with like they go through
like ten years of highlights and most of them are
like Netflix things. There's a weird weed gummy sequence in
(06:43):
a church. It's about Lindsay Lohan. Her character goes home
with her new partner to meet the in laws, and
then an X is there from ten years ago, and
they decide not to tell them that they know each other.
And obviously this is a rom com, so you can
see what's going to happen. But it's just it's so strange.
The characters sort of seem like they're all in different films.
(07:06):
They yell out lines that just don't make sense. At
one point, one character yelled out touchet, but nothing that
had been building up to that moment need like he
had no reason to say it. So you almost like
need to watch this, like you watch Tommy Wizzau's The
Room kind of ironically, maybe have some drinking games, and
I think you could have a good time, like if
you had a whole bunch of friends or family over. Yeah,
(07:28):
and you watch this because it's almost so bad that
it's good. It falls into that kind of character.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It left me asking the question when did Christmas movies
become all about romance and why? And then I went
down a rabbit hole and I really didn't get an
answer for it, except is the season of love. We
all want good happy stories everybody, you know. Apparently there's
an America anyway. There is pressure to bring home a partner,
you know, at Christmas time. Basically I've decided Christmas movies
(07:57):
don't like single people.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, well there was actually a good example, right, Kristen
Stewart did Happiest Season like four or five years ago.
I want to see, Yeah, that's a really good Christmas movie.
You can do it. It's just I don't know. We've
all got our favorites, right, we all go back and
just play the classics. In our house is alf and
Home Alone. We watch those every year. To make a
new Christmas movie that joins that canon is so impossibly
(08:21):
hard because you're fighting against fifty years of film that
everyone's already attached to their favorite films.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Thank you very much, Chris for putting yourself through that.
That's our Little Secret is screening on Netflix, and if
you want to head to the Cinema's heretic it is
an R sixteen as well. Just be that in mind.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News talks ' b from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack tam podcast
from News Talk st B down to.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Taking Away to the Dark.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
When you're singing a song.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
In Brocks, you gotta sing the words.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So despite being more than a decade old, this song
topped the Spotify Rapped charts as the Australian song that
Ossie's listened to the most this year. The track came
out in twenty thirteen and it still frequents the number
one spot on the ARIA charts. That is staying power,
isn't it, Folks. Later in the show, we're going to
be revealing the Kiwi song that Kiwi's loved the most.
(00:53):
I'm not going to be revealing my song because it
is absolutely shocking and I don't mean like and yeah,
it's just it's a shocking song. And I actually it's
all a bit of a mystery my Spotify and rap
this year. I don't believe I've ever listened to the
song about a stripper which turns out to be my
number one. Maybe more on that later anyway. Joining us
now to talk movies, Chris Schultz, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Good morning, Francesca. I'm not revealing my number one either
because my daughter hijacked my playlist and it's all Taylor swafts.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, well, that's okay, that's acceptable. Mine was hijacked by
an eighteen year old boy who likes hip hop, and
I now have my number one song about a stripper.
I don't even understand the lyrics. I was just absolutely mortified.
I was like, who is this? So I go and
listen to this song and I was just like, Holy moly, anyway,
(01:45):
let's move on. We're gonna talk about heretic Let's have
a listen to the trailer. Are you interested in learning
more about the Church of Jesus Christ, Come on it.
We just need to go home.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I won't if you wish to leave, but I want
you to choose which dor to go through based on
your faith.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
So about this time of the year, Chris, most people
would you know, think, oh, yes, I'd love to watch
a Hugh Grant film. Let's pull out a romantic comedy.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Totally true. It is the wrong time of year to
be releasing a horror movie. This should have been released
two months ago. At Halloween. We're all going to the beach.
We're celebrating Christmas. The Christmas music is on at the
Malls who feels like going to a darkened cinema to
watch a horror movie. But yes, Hugh Grant is in this.
This is a huge change of pace for him. He's
(02:45):
always been the dapper English gentleman, the leading man in
a rom com, but he's been pretty open about Now
at sixty four, he's not really getting those opportunities anymore.
So he's doing some weird stuff. We last saw him
and Willie Wonka playing an umplumpa and here he is
playing true evil and who knew he's fantastic at it.
(03:07):
This is the best reason to get to a cinema
to see heretic Hugh Grant. He's using those tricks, so
I think that's what makes this so clever. He's using
those tricks that he used in those rom coms. The
wry smile, the kind eyes, the very welcoming gentle kind
of warmth he has he wins you over, and then
(03:29):
in this he's just giving it a twist and he's evil.
He's playing mister Reed, a kind of creepy man living
alone who invites two Mormon women, young woman doing God's
work spreading the message into his home and then sort
of sets these traps for them. I mean, the trailer
made this look like Sore meets Labyrinth. You know, they
(03:53):
sort of go on this religious journey. He takes them
on this kind of cat and mouse journey trying to
teach them about religion. This film has so much to say,
almost too much to say about religion. The the downside
of it is the monologues in it. They almost overuse
Hugh Grant a little bit less is often more in
(04:15):
these kinds of movies. But then he sort of launches
into these monologues about religion and why it's wrong. And
then he sort of has these metaphors where he's using
radiohead songs. He sings Radioheads, creep, he brings in Judge
our Binks from Star Wars. There's a whole five minute
sequence that equates monopoly to religion that I'm still kind
(04:36):
of getting my head around. So the first half of
the movie is all set up, and when you get
to the second half, it's great, but it just takes
a little too long to get there. But Hugh Grant fantastic.
I mean, this is I hope he does more of this.
He's just so good it. I really hope this is
like a new thing that he's just in like all
of the horror movies now because he's so good at it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
There's something a little bit different, some lighter christmasphere, we're
going to have it. Listen to the trailer for Our
Little Secret.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm spending the holidays with my boyfriend's family for the
first time.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
This is for you.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Look, it's his street talk that's from Easy.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Here's you all.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
He has a lot of family members too many to remember,
and his sister is also bringing someone I want you
to meet, Logan, my ex bost.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So my first question for you here, Chris, is did
you finish this film?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That is an excellent question. I uh going to respond,
I head it on in the background. Let's put it
that way. No, there are some bonkers Christmas movies around
this year. I read one complete Box Office disaster with
Chris Evans and the Rock trying to save Center, Hot
Frosty and Netflix rom com in which a woman falls
(05:57):
in love with a ripped snowman who comes to life.
But Our Little Secret is on Netflix. This might be
the weirdest one of them all. This is part of
the Lindsay Lohan comeback train that she's on she's made
a few Netflix movies now she's sort of her life out.
She was a tabloid disaster for a long time and
she's making movies again. She's actually a pretty good actor.
(06:20):
She's not the problem with Our Little Secret. The problem
is kind of everything else. It's just such a strange film.
It's got this weird opening with like they go through
like ten years of highlights and most of them are
like Netflix things. There's a weird weed gummy sequence in
(06:43):
a church. It's about Lindsay Lohan. Her character goes home
with her new partner to meet the in laws, and
then an X is there from ten years ago, and
they decide not to tell them that they know each other.
And obviously this is a rom com, so you can
see what's going to happen. But it's just it's so strange.
The characters sort of seem like they're all in different films.
(07:06):
They yell out lines that just don't make sense. At
one point, one character yelled out touchet, but nothing that
had been building up to that moment need like he
had no reason to say it. So you almost like
need to watch this, like you watch Tommy Wizzau's The
Room kind of ironically, maybe have some drinking games, and
I think you could have a good time, like if
you had a whole bunch of friends or family over. Yeah,
(07:28):
and you watch this because it's almost so bad that
it's good. It falls into that kind of character.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It left me asking the question when did Christmas movies
become all about romance and why? And then I went
down a rabbit hole and I really didn't get an
answer for it, except is the season of love. We
all want good happy stories everybody, you know. Apparently there's
an America anyway. There is pressure to bring home a partner,
you know, at Christmas time. Basically I've decided Christmas movies
(07:57):
don't like single people.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, well there was actually a good example, right, Kristen
Stewart did Happiest Season like four or five years ago.
I want to see, Yeah, that's a really good Christmas movie.
You can do it. It's just I don't know. We've
all got our favorites, right, we all go back and
just play the classics. In our house is alf and
Home Alone. We watch those every year. To make a
new Christmas movie that joins that canon is so impossibly
(08:21):
hard because you're fighting against fifty years of film that
everyone's already attached to their favorite films.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Thank you very much, Chris for putting yourself through that.
That's our Little Secret is screening on Netflix, and if
you want to head to the Cinema's heretic it is
an R sixteen as well. Just be that in mind.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News talks ' b from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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