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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Start Start Start. Is there anyone here from a small town?
(00:36):
I shouldn't be so for this is a classic. It's
an absolute classic. Twenty four minutes to T nine News Talks.
He'd be that is, of course, Bruce Springsteen and Dancing
in the Dark. Francesca Rudkin is our film reviewer. She's
here with us this morning. Killed her.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I've been saying things that are going to get me
in trouble with Bruce Springsteen this morning, which is just
out of line because I actually do really enjoy his
music and kind of much you know that he represents,
and I have been keenly waiting for the release of
this latest film to see how it would all go down.
So this is springst being deliver me from nowhere.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Here's what I want you to understand. This is not
about either one of us. This is not about the charts.
This is about Ruth Springsteen, and these are the songs
that he wants to work on right now.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So the latest and a bit of a line of
music called biopics.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, it's just thing you should say that actually because
there wasn't a screening for this film. There was no
press screening, which is always a little concerning. So on
Thursday afternoon, I popped up to my local blido and
I snuck in the win and watched this film. And
as I was going in, I was texting my son
and he said, I said I was going to see
this film, and he text me back to say, can't
wait to hear about the inevitable three star review all
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music biopics deserve a little about cheeky of him. Yeah,
but actually he hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You're right, Jack.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
We have a lot of these films and they generally
do follow the same narrative beat. You have an artist
overcoming odds and making it. Then there's the dealing with
the price of fame and losing one selves, and these
films do have sort of a very familiar narrative beat
to them. And I think also the other problem with
films like this is there is a certain point where
it's actors love to take them on because they often
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win awards for them. But also these films require a
certain amount of trying to you're partly impersonating someone that
we know and love, so much, and especially someone who's
still alive like Bruce, who is just a legend and
sort of trying to make the character your own and
take us on a story. So it is very, very tricky.
Jeremy Allen White, I think does a really good job
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here of being a tortured artist. And I think, look,
there's only about three or four scenes where you see
Bruce playing on a stage. This is not like a
big kind of concert a film at all. But when
he does perform and the way he performs, he does
capture all Bruce Springsteen's mannerism. So he does, and they
start with a shot of him on stage. They kind
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of you draw you in, but because he doesn't really
look anything like him in things, you can't you're able
to sort of step back a little bit and go, Okay,
I'm following the story of this artist, rather than sitting
there kind of going this is Bruce Ross not you know,
it's quite good. He doesn't quite look the same. But
this is a bit like a complete unknown in the
sense that they've just narrowed down on a very specific
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time in Bruce's long career, and it's set during the
making of the acoustic album Nebraska So it's nineteen eighty one.
Springsteen's in his early thirties. He's just come off the
hugely successful River tour. He's trying to settle back into
New Jersey. The pressure is on him to make a
new album to really, you know, profit on this momentum
that he has. So there's that sort of commercial versus
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artistic theme in here, artist theme in here. He's really
just a bit lost. He's burnt out, he's exhausted. He's
back in his hometown. He's having a lot of He's
reminded a lot of his childhood, and this, to me,
is a bit ponderous. In the film, we do a
lot of flashbacks to his childhood. We see his abusive,
an alcoholic father, and see the family life, and I
think there's a bit much of that. It's sort of
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just draw the film down. But we got we got
the message. We didn't need to spend so much time there.
And this is all bearing down on him and the
demon starts sort of arising, and he's making two albums
and this is something I didn't know. You just played
Dancing in the Dark off the Born in the USA album,
released in nineteen ninety four, Recorded at the same time
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as Nebraska, so he was in the studio recording these
two completely separate albums. He was recording this great Carnor
rock album, you know, at the same time. He was
completely obsessed. He didn't want he just wanted to shout
those songs. He says, I can't deal with those songs,
and of course the record companies go.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But there is after Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Album he said, no, I'm obsessed with these songs that
I have to write as an artist and as a
person is a song. I have to write these songs
on the Nebraska album, and when he released it, he said,
no press, no singles, know nothing, just release it. And
of course, once again the breaker company's tearing its hair
out and it went to number three and so so really,
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so the problem with the film is we are following
a man who is it's a very introbuted film. He
is sliding into depression. He is losing himself and that's
something which is you know, hard to capture on screen.
So we really watch him make of record in his bedroom. Now,
if you loved Rocketman, if you love Bohemian Rhapsody, if
you like those big, glossy, fun lots of music, kind
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of biopics. This is not for you. This is a
very sort of small, insular film about a man slipping
into depression. And it is slow at times, and it
is ponderous at times. Personally, I quite enjoyed it. I
was quite happy to sit back and let it happen.
I love Bruce learned a bit from the movie. But
the son's right, Jack, It's probably a three out of five.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Ah, okay. Interesting. So what what is it about these
musical biopics at the moment, Because, I mean we have
had so many, right, you had the Bob Marley, you
had the Amy Winehouse one. Like you say, you had
the Yeah, I mean there have been heabes.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, we love these stories and they don't They are
great stories, and we love the music. I think a
lot of the time we go, you know, I walked
out like most people will, and you put on Nebraska. Yeah,
you kind of go. I don't know. I mean, I
do think that they do tell great stories.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I just think we're and they probably sell. They're probably
selling to a bit of nostalgia, you know. Yeah, Yeah,
And I think.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
We I think we I appreciate what directors Scott Cooper's
tried to do here. He has tried to do it
a little bit differently and present it to us a
story about Bruce in a little bit of a different manner.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, ah man, okay, all right, well it sounds sounds interesting.
But yeah, three out of five? All right? So that
Springsteen delivered me from nowhere. This is something completely different.
It's a film called Four Mothers.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Hello, hi, Edward. We decided to run away to musk
alone with Pride for three days from ms with you.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Abandons the Mother Mass belongs Pride of our Things. And
this is in cinemas later this week as part of
the British and Irish Film Festival. So tell us about
Four Mothers.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Oh look, this is a real charm of This is
just hilarious. It's droll. It's a cervic wit. I was
laughing at loud the minute this film started. It tells
the story of Edward. He's a thirty something Irish writer.
He's had huge success at home with the young adult
novel he's just released and it's about to be launched
in America and they're anticipating it's going to be huge,
so they're planning a book tour. He's very excited. The
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only problem is that Edward is the sole caretaker for
his mother who's had a stroke. Resume can no longer talk,
and he's very torn between, you know, looking after his
mother and his career and things. Just as he's trying
to work all this out, three of his gay friends,
also exhausted from looking after their mother's, ditch them on
edwards doorstep and head off to this pride long weekend
of fun. And it's this really great premise and this
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fabulous setup for this cast. They niggered at each other
and compete, and Edward's run ragged cater to them, want
to get into their appointments and things. So it's lots
of fun. But also it's quite a sweet film about aging,
about gay adults navigating the relationships with their meddling mothers,
and it explores grief and lonliness and things. But look
an absolute delight, great Irish humor coming through here. British
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and Irish Film Festival kicks off on the twenty ninth
of October. It's going all around the country in the
nineteenth of November. There's lots to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh amazing, Yeah, okay, that sounds really good. So those
films once again. The first one is, of course, Springsteen
Delivered Me from Nowhere and Four Mothers is screening as
part of the British and Irish Film Festival. That's and
cinemas from Thursday of this week. We have all the
details for those on the News Talks he'd be website for.
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