February 21, 2025 • 10 mins
Francesca Rudkin is back with Two Oscar nominated documentaries, both screening exclusively on the streaming service DocPlay.
No Other Land - This film made by a Palestinian-Israeli collective shows the destruction of the occupied West Bank's Masafer Yatta by Israeli soldiers and the alliance which develops between the Palestinian activist Basel and Israeli journalist Yuval.
Black Box Diaries - Journalist Shiori Ito conducts an investigation into her own sexual assault, aiming to bring the prominent perpetrator to justice. Her pursuit evolves into a significant legal case, revealing the antiquated judicial and societal frameworks in Japan.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks at b We're mixing things up this
(00:34):
morning on news Talks ABE. We wouldn't usually play the Prodigy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Not before ten anyway, but of course the Prodigy are
playing Electric av this weekend in christ Church two day
Festival and it's really just gone from strength to strength
Electric Avs. So before before mid day to day we're
going to take you live there get a bit of
a take from our man on the ground as to
how it's all gone down so far. Here amazing, amazing
line up, the Prodigy, the Kook's playing, it's Electric av
(00:59):
as well, So we're going to get the full rundown
on Australasia's biggest FESTI before twelve o'clock right now, those
time to get your movie picks for this weekend. And
Francisca rad Can, our movie reviewer, is here with us
this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Killeda.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh good morning Jack, And just like everybody else, I
just want to say congratulations to you.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
It's very exciting to hear about the new addition to
your family.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's very kind yep, and I'm sure you will understand
if I'm slurring my words this morning, and.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's just a little just a little bit. It's one
of those kind of weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, I completely understand, and I'm just really strolled that
we had some good news because the two films that
I had picked to talk about today are definitely very
confronting films that.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Really sort of face the worst about humanity.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So I'm glad that you're able to give us some
good news while I then kind of get quite somebody gritty.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, Gretty's Yeah, I know you said, you go, as I.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Said, just before we launch into them, I just want
to say, of course, the oscars are coming up on
the third of March.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Doc Play, which is a streaming service, this week.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
On the twenty fourth of February, they're actually going to
be screening or at least three of the Oscar nominated
documentary so that's Black Box Diaries, No Other Land and
soundtrack to the Crudit Hr There's They've also got a
couple of other films on there which were shortlisted for
Best Documentary as well, the Biby Files and things, so
there's a lot of really great material on there if
(02:22):
you like the documentaries. This week is a week to
head to doc.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Play and check it out.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, that's that's a really good typic.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I love to search out the Oscar Nomino docks because
you know, I always I always think, you know, you
can never get through all of the Oscar films, so
you probably can for Tosca, but I can never get
through them all. But I always prioritize the documentary because
they are amazing. Although, as you say, these two sound
pretty pretty gritty and confronting, so let's have a listen
to the first one. This is no other Land thousand
(02:55):
Palestinians least one of the single biggest expulsion decisions since
me is really occupation of the Paratinian territories began. Okay,
that's no other Land. And yes, as the trailer suggest,
this is fairly topical at the moment.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And look, it's no surprise that this film has ended
up on the Oscarlist, nominated for Best Documentary. It has
been winning awards all around the world at all the
major film festivals. It cannot, for probably political reasons, get
a distributor distributor in the US.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
But I think that that will probably change soon.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This is a film made by a Palestinian Israeli collective.
So it's led by Palestinian filmmaker Basil Adra, and he's
from the West Bank. He's an activist and he's also
a lawyer. He's young, he's about twenty eight years old now,
but he has been filming what has been happening in
his area, for in Mussafa Yata since he was a
(03:58):
young boy, since he was a teenager. His parents were
also activists.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He is joined by an Israeli journalist, Yuval Abraham, and
then there's a couple of other people involved.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But these two are not only kind of directing and
producing this film, they also are kind of they star
in it as well.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
We follow them on their journey and it captures this
slow distraction of the occupied.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
West Bank area region of Masafayata. And look, they have
been fighting since the nineteen eighties to remain on the land,
the Palestinians who live there. They the Israelis want to
turn it into a military training zone, and they've been
(04:42):
able to sort of go to the courts and.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Prevent things happening and things. But then pretty much since.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Twenty twenty, the Israeli authorities argued that the Palestinian communities
had not been permanent residents to the area, and they
didn't have the right to live there. So they then
began sort of in twenty twenty two, going in and
just destroying people's bulldozing people's homes, cutting off the water,
the electricity, and so you see these people, you see
(05:08):
this all happening. So it's an emotional film without trying
to be emotionally manipulative, if you mean, because they're literally
just standing there film and what happens and how it's
all unfolding, and the way everybody's treated and the angst
and the emotion around it. It is really heartbreaking because
there doesn't seem to be any solution or any hope.
And that's what you really get from these two filmmakers
(05:31):
and as they capture.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
All this in real time.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And what's also really interesting is the relationship between the
two of them, which also gives you a bit of
an understanding about this area and what it is like
to live there. So of course Buzzle he is from
this area. He went to university, he got a law degree.
There are no jobs in the West Bank. He can
only work in construction. He can't leave the area. He
(05:58):
is under military law. Whereas Yuval who comes from Jerusalem
to film and write stories and work with him on
this project. He is free to go wherever he wants
civilian law.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So there's this really great contrast between the two of them.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There's two young men about the same age, and the
different lives that they're able and not able to live
is also kind of made quite transparent in the story.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, that sounds really interesting and like you say, really
confronting as well. But yeah, it's going to be interesting
to see, given the kind of politics around it, how
that does at the OSCARS. Given it can't even get
a distributor in the US, so that's no other land
and mixed up another documentary nominated for an oscar in
a couple of weeks time. Let's you listen to Black
(06:44):
Box Diaries.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I have to talk about what.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'm scared, but all I want to do is talk
about the truth.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Many people already witness what kind of negative reaction I've got.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Or just a systems not origin. Without these recordings, no
one would believe what I heard.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, that's black Box Diaries tell us about it. Francisca.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yes, so this is also a documentary which has sort
of been years in the making as well. This is
a story of the Japanese journalist who investigates her own
sexual assault and an attempt to sort of modernize some
quite antiquated sexual assault laws in Japan. She already it
directs and is the face of this film. Is this
journalist and she was raped in twenty fifteen, and the
(07:35):
beginning of the film shows us this particular incident. So
a very senior journalist, she was applying for a job,
she went to meet him. Turns out it was a
dinner she claims to have been drugged, and then on
the taxi on the way home, the journalist takes it
back to the hotel, even though she claims that she
wanted to be let off at a station, and then
and then she's taken into the hotel and the assault happens,
(08:00):
and the film this is sort of announced to us
at the beginning of the film with a conversation with
her taxi driver, and then you see the footage of
her being dragged out of the taxi at the hotel,
clearly dragged and sort of taken into this hotel. So
it's quite a harrowing start to this story, but it's
basically we follow her as she.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Then decides to come forward and.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Requests a civil ye criminal needs to be bought and
only about four percent of sexual assaults reported in Japan.
It's not something people want to do and they very
rarely put their faces out there. And she's actually decided,
I have to do this.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
This is ridiculous. I have to do this.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I have to we have to try and change these
laws in our and our attitude towards sexual assault. And
this causes a bit of a fraction, you know, causes
a bit of friction with her family. And then we
follow her on this journey and she loses the criminal case,
but she then brings a civil case, which she then wins,
and she writes a book about it, and she's sort
(08:59):
of documented this in this film the whole.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Way through once again.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And then of course in the middle of all this,
me too happens and finally people go, hang on, this
is a really big, quite scandless case because the journalist
also who was involved was a close friend of the
Prime minister's, so there was a lot of scandal here,
but no one picked up on it, which and she
got a lot of abuse and she, you know, life
was very, very difficult for her for about eight years, but.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You know she's she's stacked to her guns and his head.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Quite an impact when it comes to talking about sexual
abuse in Japan.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Sounds amazing your yeah, really great.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, so that's Black Box Diaries. Yeah, this one.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I was thinking our Oscar nominated documentaries ever very uplifting,
and then I remember my Octopus teacher won Oscar, didn't it,
and that was I don't know it was uplifting, but
it was, you know, it was a pretty as these
ones here anyway, They do sound like amazing bits of storytelling.
So thank you very much, Fantasica, black Box Diaries and
(10:03):
no Other Land her film picks for this week. Both
of those are nominated for an Oscar, which is on
March third, I think New Zealand time, and we'll have
all the details from on the news Talks.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
He'db website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.
Listen live to news Talks I'd be from nine am Saturday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks at b We're mixing things up this
(00:34):
morning on news Talks ABE. We wouldn't usually play the Prodigy.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Not before ten anyway, but of course the Prodigy are
playing Electric av this weekend in christ Church two day
Festival and it's really just gone from strength to strength
Electric Avs. So before before mid day to day we're
going to take you live there get a bit of
a take from our man on the ground as to
how it's all gone down so far. Here amazing, amazing
line up, the Prodigy, the Kook's playing, it's Electric av
(00:59):
as well, So we're going to get the full rundown
on Australasia's biggest FESTI before twelve o'clock right now, those
time to get your movie picks for this weekend. And
Francisca rad Can, our movie reviewer, is here with us
this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Killeda.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh good morning Jack, And just like everybody else, I
just want to say congratulations to you.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
It's very exciting to hear about the new addition to
your family.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's very kind yep, and I'm sure you will understand
if I'm slurring my words this morning, and.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's just a little just a little bit. It's one
of those kind of weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, I completely understand, and I'm just really strolled that
we had some good news because the two films that
I had picked to talk about today are definitely very
confronting films that.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Really sort of face the worst about humanity.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So I'm glad that you're able to give us some
good news while I then kind of get quite somebody gritty.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, Gretty's Yeah, I know you said, you go, as I.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Said, just before we launch into them, I just want
to say, of course, the oscars are coming up on
the third of March.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Doc Play, which is a streaming service, this week.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
On the twenty fourth of February, they're actually going to
be screening or at least three of the Oscar nominated
documentary so that's Black Box Diaries, No Other Land and
soundtrack to the Crudit Hr There's They've also got a
couple of other films on there which were shortlisted for
Best Documentary as well, the Biby Files and things, so
there's a lot of really great material on there if
(02:22):
you like the documentaries. This week is a week to
head to doc.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Play and check it out.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay, that's that's a really good typic.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I love to search out the Oscar Nomino docks because
you know, I always I always think, you know, you
can never get through all of the Oscar films, so
you probably can for Tosca, but I can never get
through them all. But I always prioritize the documentary because
they are amazing. Although, as you say, these two sound
pretty pretty gritty and confronting, so let's have a listen
to the first one. This is no other Land thousand
(02:55):
Palestinians least one of the single biggest expulsion decisions since
me is really occupation of the Paratinian territories began. Okay,
that's no other Land. And yes, as the trailer suggest,
this is fairly topical at the moment.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And look, it's no surprise that this film has ended
up on the Oscarlist, nominated for Best Documentary. It has
been winning awards all around the world at all the
major film festivals. It cannot, for probably political reasons, get
a distributor distributor in the US.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
But I think that that will probably change soon.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This is a film made by a Palestinian Israeli collective.
So it's led by Palestinian filmmaker Basil Adra, and he's
from the West Bank. He's an activist and he's also
a lawyer. He's young, he's about twenty eight years old now,
but he has been filming what has been happening in
his area, for in Mussafa Yata since he was a
(03:58):
young boy, since he was a teenager. His parents were
also activists.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
He is joined by an Israeli journalist, Yuval Abraham, and
then there's a couple of other people involved.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But these two are not only kind of directing and
producing this film, they also are kind of they star
in it as well.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
We follow them on their journey and it captures this
slow distraction of the occupied.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
West Bank area region of Masafayata. And look, they have
been fighting since the nineteen eighties to remain on the land,
the Palestinians who live there. They the Israelis want to
turn it into a military training zone, and they've been
(04:42):
able to sort of go to the courts and.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Prevent things happening and things. But then pretty much since.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Twenty twenty, the Israeli authorities argued that the Palestinian communities
had not been permanent residents to the area, and they
didn't have the right to live there. So they then
began sort of in twenty twenty two, going in and
just destroying people's bulldozing people's homes, cutting off the water,
the electricity, and so you see these people, you see
(05:08):
this all happening. So it's an emotional film without trying
to be emotionally manipulative, if you mean, because they're literally
just standing there film and what happens and how it's
all unfolding, and the way everybody's treated and the angst
and the emotion around it. It is really heartbreaking because
there doesn't seem to be any solution or any hope.
And that's what you really get from these two filmmakers
(05:31):
and as they capture.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
All this in real time.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And what's also really interesting is the relationship between the
two of them, which also gives you a bit of
an understanding about this area and what it is like
to live there. So of course Buzzle he is from
this area. He went to university, he got a law degree.
There are no jobs in the West Bank. He can
only work in construction. He can't leave the area. He
(05:58):
is under military law. Whereas Yuval who comes from Jerusalem
to film and write stories and work with him on
this project. He is free to go wherever he wants
civilian law.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
So there's this really great contrast between the two of them.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There's two young men about the same age, and the
different lives that they're able and not able to live
is also kind of made quite transparent in the story.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, that sounds really interesting and like you say, really
confronting as well. But yeah, it's going to be interesting
to see, given the kind of politics around it, how
that does at the OSCARS. Given it can't even get
a distributor in the US, so that's no other land
and mixed up another documentary nominated for an oscar in
a couple of weeks time. Let's you listen to Black
(06:44):
Box Diaries.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I have to talk about what.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'm scared, but all I want to do is talk
about the truth.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Many people already witness what kind of negative reaction I've got.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Or just a systems not origin. Without these recordings, no
one would believe what I heard.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Okay, that's black Box Diaries tell us about it. Francisca.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yes, so this is also a documentary which has sort
of been years in the making as well. This is
a story of the Japanese journalist who investigates her own
sexual assault and an attempt to sort of modernize some
quite antiquated sexual assault laws in Japan. She already it
directs and is the face of this film. Is this
journalist and she was raped in twenty fifteen, and the
(07:35):
beginning of the film shows us this particular incident. So
a very senior journalist, she was applying for a job,
she went to meet him. Turns out it was a
dinner she claims to have been drugged, and then on
the taxi on the way home, the journalist takes it
back to the hotel, even though she claims that she
wanted to be let off at a station, and then
and then she's taken into the hotel and the assault happens,
(08:00):
and the film this is sort of announced to us
at the beginning of the film with a conversation with
her taxi driver, and then you see the footage of
her being dragged out of the taxi at the hotel,
clearly dragged and sort of taken into this hotel. So
it's quite a harrowing start to this story, but it's
basically we follow her as she.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Then decides to come forward and.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Requests a civil ye criminal needs to be bought and
only about four percent of sexual assaults reported in Japan.
It's not something people want to do and they very
rarely put their faces out there. And she's actually decided,
I have to do this.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
This is ridiculous. I have to do this.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
I have to we have to try and change these
laws in our and our attitude towards sexual assault. And
this causes a bit of a fraction, you know, causes
a bit of friction with her family. And then we
follow her on this journey and she loses the criminal case,
but she then brings a civil case, which she then wins,
and she writes a book about it, and she's sort
(08:59):
of documented this in this film the whole.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Way through once again.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And then of course in the middle of all this,
me too happens and finally people go, hang on, this
is a really big, quite scandless case because the journalist
also who was involved was a close friend of the
Prime minister's, so there was a lot of scandal here,
but no one picked up on it, which and she
got a lot of abuse and she, you know, life
was very, very difficult for her for about eight years, but.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You know she's she's stacked to her guns and his head.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Quite an impact when it comes to talking about sexual
abuse in Japan.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Sounds amazing your yeah, really great.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, so that's Black Box Diaries. Yeah, this one.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I was thinking our Oscar nominated documentaries ever very uplifting,
and then I remember my Octopus teacher won Oscar, didn't it,
and that was I don't know it was uplifting, but
it was, you know, it was a pretty as these
ones here anyway, They do sound like amazing bits of storytelling.
So thank you very much, Fantasica, black Box Diaries and
(10:03):
no Other Land her film picks for this week. Both
of those are nominated for an Oscar, which is on
March third, I think New Zealand time, and we'll have
all the details from on the news Talks.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
He'db website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.
Listen live to news Talks I'd be from nine am Saturday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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