Full Show Podcast: 12 October 2024

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YUD and New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks
V Jack Tame with you through the midday Today. One
of my favorite TV shows is coming back. I'm so
excited about this. One of my favorites the show called
The Restaurant That Makes Mistakes. You might have seen the
first series. It's a show where people who have Alzheimer's
effectively run a restaurant and it is extraordinary. It is
so move and inspiring and thoughtful. It's the kind of

(01:10):
television that might not have been made twenty years ago,
and it is really remarkable. So I'm going to tell
you about that series and where you can see it once.
Season two of The Restaurant That Makes Mistakes come back.
It comes back. That will be in our screen time
segment this morning, our feature interview right after ten o'clock.
This is one to really look forward to. Donna Hay
is going to be with us live this morning. Cannot

(01:31):
wait for that. Conversation right now, though it's eight minutes
past nine.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Jack tiam And, as someone who considers themselves at least
semi literate, with the benefit of a reasonable education and
at least a passing interest in the world, I can
confirm there is nothing there is nothing quite so humbling
in middle age as trying to learn a new language

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at short notice.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I'm hoping to briefly visit a Latin American country for
my work in a few weeks time, and so in
preparation this week, I downloaded a few apps and subscribed
to some podcasts to try and re up my Spanish. Now,
my history with Spanish is one of really big surges
and then even bigger retreats. I studied it at high

(02:23):
school until about seventh form. I wasn't very good. In fact,
I was very bad, but at the very least I
learned a few nouns and I could ask some basic questions.
But then when I moved to New York in my twenties,
I decided that I would learn Spanish in a way
that I never had when I was a teenager. I
deliberately moved to a Latin neighborhood. I did thrice weekly

(02:43):
lessons on Skype. Just speaking with a tutor friend in
Mexico's South. After a few months of studying, I decided
to visit her Estoy Exitalo, I said, trying to express
my excitement at the impending trip. Once I bought my tickets,
my tutor just burst into laughter and explained that I

(03:06):
I just informed a conservative Catholic mother that I was horny.
Ah ga h h is story tan embarazada, I blushed,
She bent over and laughter again. Turns out mbarazada does
not mean embarrassed. Embarazada means pregnant. It's amazing what immersion

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will do, though.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Eh.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
When I visited Chapas, I would collapse and be it
exhausted at the end of every day from twelve hours
of speaking. But honestly, after just a few weeks I
could swear I was just starting to dream in Spanish,
and that's when you know that it's sticking. Then, though, ugh,
an almighty retreat. I fell out of lessons and Spanish

(03:57):
fell out of my head. I eventually moved home and
I studied MILDI, which I absolutely loved, but which has
a similar vowel sound to Spanish and often over the years,
when I've reached for a word, I've pulled a noun
from the wrong language. And now it's even more complicated.
I'm embarrassed to admit that, although my wife is Persian,

(04:19):
in Pharsi, I can't even say hello. Now, there are
some people for whom language comes a whole lot easier
than it does for me. I'm always so envious. See,
I'm really good with sound, I'm really good with languages sound,
and I'm good at speaking with false confidence, but I'm
very poor with grammar. My brother, on the other hand,

(04:40):
is much more studious than me, but I swear he
also just he gets grammatical structures. It's like it's like
he sees the matrix when he's studying language. And I'm
fascinated by people who can speak multiple languages. There's this
New Zealander, a guy called Harold Williams, who basically no
one has ever heard of, who is widely considered one

(05:02):
of the greatest polyglots in history. He was the foreign
he edit for the Times newspaper in London, a foreign correspondent,
and spoke as many as fifty eight different languages, yeah
fifty eight. As a lad in christ Church, in the
late eighteen hundreds. He said that he one day woke
up and felt like he had a brain explosion. That's

(05:24):
how he described it. When he was about seven years old,
and he just started buying himself copies of the New
Testament in every language that his bookshop could order, and
he taught himself languages that way. I reckon our historic
comfort in our majority monolingualism is maybe one of the

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great faults of New Zealand culture. It's really sloppy, it's
really insular, and honestly, it's embarrassing to visit poor neighborhoods
in poor countries and realize that, despite the relative lack
of educational opportunities, kids can speak many more languages than

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most of us can. It's wonderful to see the revitalization
of today or Maudi, but New Zealand must still be
one of the most monolingual developed countries on Earth. So
here we go again. Like trying to start a lawn
mower that has been sitting in the shed for fifteen years,

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I am pulling at the start a cord and pleading
the engine to fire. The cat likes to sleep. I
would like to buy a ticket for the train. Ugh.
It is just so humbling to go so far back
m batazada even, and yet still so rewarding when you

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feel something stick exitao. That's the thing about language, a
more than vowels and consonance. It's the front door to culture,
a gate to a whole new world. Jacktay nine ninety
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standard text costs apply. You can email me as well,
Jackiewstalks EDB dot co dot nz before ten o'clock this morning.
If you are in a bit of a rut, not
necessarily with languages, but in the kitchen, good news. Our
cook Nikki Wicks has some tips to help you out.
Next out though, Kevin Melon will kick us off for
our Saturday morning. It's fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jacktaying.

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Speaker 1 (07:37):
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Speaker 2 (07:47):
Good morning, Jack. I enjoyed your opening comments this morning,
so long as you are making it part of your routine.
You're always making progress. It doesn't matter how slow you
might be compared to others. Yeah, I guess thanks, Jack,
totally agree. Regarding New Zealanders and their monolingualism. All you
need to do is travel through most of Europe and

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you realize just how far off we are compared to
the rest of the world. It is a humbling thing.
And it's not just Europe. I mean, obviously, you know,
if you got someone like Scannina, they speak better English
than we do. But even when you travel through you know,
you travel through parts of South Asia or something, you know,
you go. I just I can recall being in Pakistan
and being like, man, these you know, kids who don't

(08:31):
have anything like the opportunities that we have, and yet
they are you know, they have more language skills than
we do. It's yeah, it can be a humbling thing.
Ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us
a message this morning, you can email me as well.
Of course, Kevin Milne is with us. Kevin, you strike
me as a bit of a polyguet, a man of
the world, someone who could speak a few languages.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
I actually answered the phone this morning from zeb of course,
from producer to by saying.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
She replied, to which he replied, so we're all.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Sort of we're all getting multi lingual this morning.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yes, slowly Alvi it s but.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yeah, yeah, I've just had a text, funny enough from
my son in London and he's he's at the O two,
you know, the big stay there and who's playing but
crowded out?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh how good?

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, it's funny really because I was just looking the
other night to see what seats were available in Palmerston North.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
I mean it must see weird to.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Be a kind of a group like them where you
can go one day you're playing you're playing O two
in London, which and the preasures that alex SI so
it is a huge crowd. Yeah, and then and then
next month you're you're at the Regent in North.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's pretty cool actually that they you know, like, it
sees a lot about the group. Don't you think that
they still play the region in Palveston North?

Speaker 5 (09:57):
I think so, absolutely absolutely. And also what I'm thinking
is although there were no decent seats left, yeah, I
thought probably the seats in the region again to be
like being upfront at the.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's so good. I was the thing I
love about Credit House is that they are so successful
that I kind of take them for granted. I was
watching The Beer the other day, which is this amazing
TV show we're going to talk about about up to
ten o'clock this morning, and just as part of the soundtrack,
Credit House was playing and it was something so wrong,

(10:31):
and it was right at the very end of the song.
I was like, hang on a second, there's Credit House,
you know, like it just feels like you're like, oh,
there's okay, there you go, just another.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, it's kind of a different, a different like stratosphere
of success. Yeah, it's quite remarkable. So yeah. Yeah, anyway, Kevin,
you have been perplexed this week about something at the supermarket.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
I do most of their household supermarket shoving jack. Weirdly,
I enjoy it. So I'm in the supermarket fairly of them.
And there's one thing I don't get. I happen to
shop at New World, as you know, frequently off your
stickers based on how much you've bought, and you can
trade them in on various stuff. I think it's it's
kitchen containers. At Man, when you go through check out,

(11:17):
you're asked if you want your stickers. What I don't
understand is why people say no. It's not like if
they don't take the stickers they get a cash reduction
on what they're bought. So saying no to the stickers
seems to me like just throwing away money. I'm not
obsessed with these stickers. I accept it's stupid just to

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bend more in the supermarket just to get more stickers.
I also accept that possibly the supermarket puts up the
price of its goods to cover the cost of giving
away free goods. I don't know that, but maybe it's
people suggest it. But if that's so, all customers are
paying more for their goods, including the people who say no.

(12:01):
I don't want the stickers. So why would you say
no to the stickers? All I can think of is
that if you very rarely go to the supermarket, you
might think it's not worth taking the stickers because you'll
never get enough to trade them in on anything. What
I'm wondering is that in all the worthwhile discussion about
whether you'd rather your supermarket lowered prices than give out

(12:24):
kitchen containers, etc. Some people have got the wrong end
of the stick somehow. Maybe they think that they shouldn't
accept their stickers. I always accept the stickers. We've already
got every We've got every container available in the current
New World promotion. But what I'm proud of is that

(12:45):
I've resisted the temptation of asking people in front of
me who don't want the stickers, can I have them?
In my view, that would be overdoing it.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I am with you for the supermarket, but I will
challenge you when it comes to the coffee cards. And
I've got a couple of like I got a couple
of other places that offer loyalty cards. That the thing
that annoys means when you have to carry a physical item.
So if it means that I've got to put another

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card in my wallet, then I don't want to do
it because I want to have the I want to
I'm an absolute minimalist. I want my wallet to get
the fewest cards possible. And so where's my wife? On
the other hand, we should be running about thirty loyalty
cards at any one time, you know mine too, Yeah,
and I wass think, oh, this is this is so frustrating,
you know, But She's like, what do you mean You've

(13:38):
got to get the free stuff? You've got to get
the free stuff. Maybe it depends on.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
How much the door, aren't you, Jack, And suddenly your
wife says, wait a minute, gentlemen, I've just got my card,
I've got Yeah, you know you're now in there for
another five minutes.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, yeah, totally should go through all the cards. And
I'm no, I'm no colonist, Kevin, but I'm I'm fairly
confident that the supermarkets, and not just the New World
and it's containers, the supermarkets, for their respective promotions will
have allowed for those in the pricing of their goods.
I don't think they're doing it out of the goodness

(14:12):
of their heart, only a hunch.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
I totally agree with you on that. But yeah, that
being the case, why wouldn't you want to take the
goods to sort of even that up a bit?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, totally totally. Hey, Thanksgivin. Appreciate your time this morning.
Kevin Melne there, thank you for your text. Jack, so true.
When I travel overseas, I always feel so inferior. My
Turkish uncle married to my key. We aren't spoke about
eight languages, all self taught on the streets, hardly any schooling.
It just amazed me. He would jump from language to

(14:43):
language before my very eyes is so, Jack. I lived
in Russia for a period of time, so it was
sink or swim when it came to speaking the language.
I had a language teacher who taught me the grammatically
correct Russian, and the boys in the office taught me
the street Russian, how to swear and that kind of thing.
It was very important not to confuse the two, so
it's not to offend people like the old Babushka's working
in small Russian products. Wards. Thanks John. Yeah, context is everything, Ah,

(15:08):
context is everything, Jack. I think you meant the song
something so strong, not something so wrong. Did I say
something so wrong? Well, it was something so wrong with me.
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and if symptoms persist, see your health professional. Jack Tame,
thank of your text, Jack. I always take the stickers
and give them to other people and the Q says
Mike Jack. My second job is cleaning a new world
at night, and trying to get all those stickers off
the floor takes up so much time. Ah yeah, that
would be that would be a real punish and Jack,

(16:58):
I completely agree regarding the importance of being able to
speak other languages. It makes such a difference in being
able to better understand other cultures and to be accepted.
We keep we really need to make an effort to
learn more languages, particularly given how diverse we have become.
I remember moving to the US as a child and
hearing kids my age speak are speaking fluent English and Spanish.
I was so envious and inspired that I chose to

(17:19):
live in several non English speaking countries and I can
now comfortably converse in five languages. And I'm learning too more.
It's never too late. That is really amazing. That is
really amazing. Thank you. Yeah. I mean when you look
at kids today, like our boy can speak two languages.
He speaks fluent Maudi fluent English, which is just amazing.
And you make a good point. New Zealand is becoming

(17:40):
increasingly diverse, So maybe I'm kind of like thinking about
the New Zealand of fifteen or twenty years ago when
I say we're kind of monolingual. Anyway, thank you for
your feedback. I just coming up to nine thirty on
New Stalks. It'd be our Sporto. Andrew Savill is here
in sav The America's Cup set to kick off, but
it's that weird moment we are not totally sure how

(18:01):
Team New Zealand is shaping ups the competitors.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
And I said, where it's thes you can you.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Can say one is the Yeah, you're a man of
the world, saff come on, you're of course, yeah, yeah,
I think Cosmopolitan.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
I was actually going to mention that Roger Federer always
renowned for speaking five or six different languages, and he
holds a lot of his press conferences in three or
four different languages. He was always one to look after
all the different countries, was broadcast into and was a star.
And yes, speaking of Spanish, Yes, yes, yes, yes, America's

(18:41):
Cup to night. We'll get onto Raffer in a moment.
But America's Cup first race. I think it's about one
am tomorrow morning. I don't know how many Kiwis are
going to get up and watch it live or given
it's not here, but I'm sure there'll be a level
of interest given it as Team New Zealand, given the history,
and yes, as you say, given we don't really know

(19:03):
what's going to happen, until that startgun goes in Race one.
Will the British. I'd like to think the British will
give them a real good run for their money. They
were very disappointing in the end in Auckland four years ago,
so it looks like they've sort of their ACKed out.
They've got better as the regatt has gone on the Britannia,

(19:25):
and yeah, I'm sure they'll I'm sure they'll try and
create their own slice of history. What is one hundred
and seventy odd years since the America's Cup was in
the British hands? They started it all those years ago
and now looking to rip it back, claimate back.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
So Rupa're thirty eight years old. I mean, it's remarkable
actually that he has continued as long as he has,
given his kind of rich history with injuries over the years,
but I mean a bona fide led into the sport.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Yeah, I don't know if much has been made about
it this week, but he totally deserves all the accolades.
I think maybe when we all started to realize he
was on the downward slide, that the trip heeps were
paid then in the last year or two. But obviously
the King of Roland Garros, the King of Clay. The
way he played tennis was quite brutal, and that's why

(20:16):
his body I thinks giving up the ghost. And then
but to make it thirty eight in World tennis on
what is a grueling tour, grueling sport to play. Yeah,
it's not contact like some of the football codes, but
it is very physical. It's monotonous, it can be a
real grind at times. So to make it to the

(20:38):
ripe old age of thirty eight is quite a remarkable achievement.
And again given the way he played very very physical tennis,
I'll never forget seeing him for the first time in
Auckland the tournament, the ATP tournament. Year it was too
I think it was January two thousand and four, so
it would have been what about eighteen years ago, years eighteen.

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He had these big baggy shorts on, he had the
singlet that he played on court. He was quite a
wiry character back then, tall kid long here and danna
on and but he had this huge left arm, very
muscular left arm. And I'll never forget seeing the first
time he played on that scene to court the jee

(21:21):
this kid's this kid's going to be good. Or is
in fact good now he made the final, didn't win.
So ashamed that he didn't win in Auckland because that
would have been as his first pro tour win at
that level in his career. But you never forget the
through some of my and play and then that this kid.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
Was going to be good.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
And hey, we've got a Kiwi on pole position at
about Patorama this weekend.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
Yeah, it's rolled around again. Yeah, the years ago faster
Matthew Payne, who has pretty much made every post to
win it in supercars. He's got a young young yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember interviewing him when he when he signed a
deal to race Porsches a few years ago. And very

(22:07):
tall for a motor racing driver. You don't often see
tall motor racing drivers. But he is a present young man,
as most of them are in motor racing. And he's
doing very very well. That he's on provisional pole because
they've got this the old top ten shootout later this afternoon.
But and anything can happen, as we know in a
thousand k race, and anything can happen in Mount Panorama
as we've seen over the years. But a great start

(22:29):
by Matthew Paine just happens to be one of his
best mates. He grew up with him book at Cobe.
Liam Lawson Yeah same age.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
So I've what a huge couple of weeks for Matthew
Payne and then Liam Lawson in America next week and
that when Formula one resumes an American Grand broos.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh my gosh, I cannot wait for that. Thank you
so much, sir, I appreciate your time. That's Esporto Andrew Savill.
Before ten o'clock this morning, getting out of a cooking rut,
Nicky Wex is going to share our share her top
tips with us this morning. If you're feeling kind of
a bit yeah at the moment, looking for a bit
of inspiration, cook will give us her favorite suggestion twenty
six to ten.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
How to cross the mall two.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
In the Valley of the Day.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
This is a nice ah. This is the Ladder from
the Veils and friend of the show Finn Andrews is
back with his band. So The Veils have announced their
seventh studio album. It's called Asphodels. It's going to be
out on January twenty fourth next year. They've given us
a week taste of what's to come. This is the
first single from the album, and of course they're going
to be playing at Womad in March next year. Right now,

(23:48):
it is twenty two minutes to ten and our film
review of Francesca Radkin is here with her picks this week.
He Francesca, good morning.

Speaker 10 (23:55):
I like the sound of that.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, it's cool A the vows are great. Yeah, I
really enjoyed. We spoke to and andrews Well a couple
of weeks ago. There was such a such a nice conversation.
I really enjoyed speaking but they hadn't spoken to him before,
so yeah, very much. Looking forward to listening to that
new album when the whole thing is released, in seeing
them at one Mad in March of next year. Now
let's look at your film. So this week we have
a little bit of a listen to your first one.

(24:17):
This one is showing in cinemas. It's called a Mistake.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Good afternoon. This is a Mobility and Mortality meeting.

Speaker 11 (24:24):
We're going to be discussing errors made by the surgical
staff in Lisa Williams case.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Christmas Hooy, our daughter is in the look bye bam.
So he's got Elizabeth Banks and it's made by Kiwi
filmmaker Christine Jeffs.

Speaker 10 (24:48):
Yeah, it marks the return of Christine Jess.

Speaker 12 (24:50):
I've been a fan of her since she released Rain
and then she went on to make two more films,
Sylvia and Sun Juan Cleaning.

Speaker 10 (24:58):
She's returned to New Zealand for this film Or It's
set in New Zealand at a.

Speaker 12 (25:01):
Hospital in Auckland and it's a film about medical ethics
and bureaucracy. She's managed to get Elizabeth Thanks to play
the lead character, Elizabeth Taylor, who was a surgeon and
her reputation and career takes a hit when a patient
dies after a relatively routine procedure. The patient was thought
to have appendicitis. They went in to do some exploratory.

Speaker 10 (25:25):
Surgery.

Speaker 12 (25:27):
Taylor lets a nervous young doctor insert a gas port
into her abdomen.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
He bungles it, it ruptures an artery.

Speaker 12 (25:34):
They fix it and the patient deverilically should be fine,
but actually she had very She accepted sema, which was
a lot worse than people thought, and she didn't last
the night. And this is where the film gets really
interesting because it takes a look at the consequences of
a mistake and a death and the lasting impact it has.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
On everybody involved.

Speaker 12 (25:59):
So even along the patient was severely ill and the
mistake was potentially not the cause of the death. It's
how everyone from Taylor, the young surgeon, their bosses deal
with the outcome and communicate it to the parents. It
raises that issue about sort of the system, accountability and communication. Look,

(26:20):
Elizabeth Banks is absolutely fantastic. She reminds us I think
more recently we've sort of seen her in.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
Quite large characters.

Speaker 12 (26:30):
Here, she is very much a woman who is dealing
with an internal and external sort of crisis.

Speaker 10 (26:36):
She's also surrounded by very.

Speaker 12 (26:38):
Competent Key we Cast and Renna Ollen and Matthew Sunderland.
They don't have a large part, but they play the
parents of this young patient, and they are absolutely superb.

Speaker 10 (26:47):
It raises some really thoughtful questions. It is a very
intense film.

Speaker 12 (26:52):
It is quite bleak, but it's brilliantly acted, and I think,
as I said to you, just raises a whole lot
of issues that relate to our house system here in
New Zealand, but I think will be it will relate globally.

Speaker 10 (27:07):
Very much as well.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Very good, okay, cool, that is a mistake showing in
cinemas at the moment. Next up, let's have a listen
to The Outrun.

Speaker 13 (27:16):
The urge to drink can come out of norwhere do
you think you're doing well?

Speaker 14 (27:21):
Suddenly you want nothing more.

Speaker 10 (27:23):
Than a drink?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
And that is Sasha Ronan tell us about the art
Run Francesco.

Speaker 15 (27:31):
Yes, so this is another beautiful film actually with a
female protagonist in strite Sasha ron And I'm a huge
fan of hers, and I've been reading a few articles
about this film, The Outrun, and I was absolutely thrilled
to see it.

Speaker 10 (27:45):
Has just started in theaters now.

Speaker 12 (27:47):
You'll probably have to head to your independent local theater
to find it.

Speaker 10 (27:52):
Like it's playing at the Lido in Epsom.

Speaker 12 (27:55):
It is based on a memoir by Amy Liptrot and
Ronan plays Rona, and she's a marine scientist and she
returns to her home on the wild Orkney Island off
the north coast of Scotland.

Speaker 10 (28:09):
And I am, as I mentioned, huge fan of Ownans
and there is a lot of award to talk around
this performance.

Speaker 12 (28:15):
So there's already quite a bit of an oscar buzz
around it, so definitely worth catching She has been away
from her home for about a decade. She's been living
in London, but her life is unravel She's an alcoholic
and her alcoholism has ruined her relationship. She's lost her job,
and then there's sort of a catastrophic event which leads.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
Her to get help.

Speaker 12 (28:36):
We start in Orkney and we follow her as she's
adjusting to being back home looking after her parents have separated.
Her mother has found God. Her father is bipolar, and
she helps him on the farm, raising the sheep and things.
And then her London life is all in flashbacks, and
we very much recognize this young person. She's living life,

(28:58):
she's going out, she's having a good time. But then
we just see the addiction really take over her life,
and then we watch.

Speaker 10 (29:04):
Her go through a recovery. She gets to a point
where she goes, I'm not really sure if I can
ever be happy again without alcohol, And.

Speaker 12 (29:10):
So she ends up on this island. And the island
itself is an amazing character. It is majestic. It is
this wind gale swept.

Speaker 10 (29:20):
Place.

Speaker 12 (29:21):
It's nature at its most remote and wild, and this
is very much a film about the restorative power of
nature and solitude and taking life one day at a
time as we see her find her feet.

Speaker 10 (29:32):
Look, it's stunning the way it unfolds.

Speaker 12 (29:34):
It's not a straightforward narrative the Scottish folklore which is
animated this documentary footage. I'm sure some of the people
on these islands are actually real people are not actors
from these islands. I just love the way this beautiful
film just gently unfolded, and I think it's a beautiful
observation of a person dealing with addiction and recovery.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Loved it sounds fantastic, great Oka. You have to search
about it like it's a bit tricky to definitely Okay,
that's worth it though by the sounds of the thing.
So that is the outrun. Francesca's first film was Mistake.
It's the name of the film, not anything else. And
both of those films that'll be up on the news
talks he'd be website. Thank you very much for your

(30:14):
messages this morning. Jack. You were obviously brought up on
the sheltered size of christ Church. Maybe the angler Saxon
side there. I suggest there are plenty of languages spoken
by Kiwis who come from immigrant families around New Zealand.
Now I think that's probably reasonable. Yeah, I think maybe
it's the kind of you know, like middle class park
Our New Zealanders who haven't necessarily spoken multiple languages over

(30:35):
the years. I mean, I'm generalizing massively everywhere there, but yeah,
it's true that New Zealand's become more diverse and we
have many more immigrant families here now and lots of
people who can speak multiple languages as a result. Christ
Is Jack. In the nineties we had a lovely exchange
student from Finland at seventeen. She could speak all these
Scandinavian languages, German, French and English. Although Chris's kids, his

(30:56):
girls could speak French and some Spanish as well, so
you know, there are no laggards in that respect, even
though I certainly feel like one ninety two ninety two.
If you want to send us a message if you
are in a bit of a cooking rutkok Niki Wicks
has some tips to get out of it.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Next Saturday mornings with Jack day keeping the conversation going
through the weekend with BPEUWRE dot co dot inst for
high Quality Supplements Used talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Thirteen minutes to ten. On news talks, he'd be After
ten o'clock we're talking screen Time. That's the segment every
week where our screen time expert gives us three shows
that she is watching or streaming and recommends to us all.
And she's really excited, as am I about the second
season of The Restaurant that Makes Mistakes. If you haven't
seen the first season, it's just it is just a
really beautiful concept. So basically, people who have Alzheimer's help

(31:46):
to run a restaurant, and they go from zero knowledge
and running a restaurant into serving people, assisting with the
food preparation, running the whole thing, and as you can imagine,
like restaurants, so complex places. But it's a really kind
of intimate and beautiful concept for a TV show. So
I'm so excited about season two. We'll tell you a
bit more about that after ten o'clock. Right now, though,

(32:06):
it is time to catch up with our cook, Nicky
Wicks is here with us this morning. Morning, A, Yes,
good morning.

Speaker 16 (32:12):
I'm excited about that show too. I adored the first season.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
I thought they did a really great job.

Speaker 16 (32:18):
The Restaurant That Makes Mistakes. I think it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's such a good idea, such a good idea. Are
you Are you a language person? I can imagine you.
Are you very worldly?

Speaker 10 (32:27):
Very worldly?

Speaker 17 (32:28):
And look when I was filming World Kitchen, so in
multiple forty different countries, and what I learned.

Speaker 16 (32:34):
I learned always to know.

Speaker 17 (32:35):
How to say thank you, how to say hello, and
also how to say delicious in a different languages, because
I always wanted to be able to say that's.

Speaker 16 (32:43):
Delicious, and it was great.

Speaker 17 (32:46):
I think I'm waiting for the piece of technology that
is when you can have a language implanted in your brain.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yes, and I just can't wait for it. So I
will be interested to see what like AI and these
and these chaptools are going to do to language. I
really hope that they don't mean people are less and
sent device to learn languages. I think they would be
a real shame.

Speaker 17 (33:04):
You know, well, I think there's no think quite like
I mean translation tools. I mean, I've never had great success.
This is just that stiltedness. But I'm talking about an
actual thing that gets put in my brain so that
when I'm going to Italy, I can speak.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
The local diary. Yeah yeah, fair enough, alright.

Speaker 16 (33:22):
But anyway, okay, such a raid game might might.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Suffer, Yes, yes.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
True.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Now now you're helping us get out of cooking rut
this morning, and I'm doing a terrible job with timing.
But this is something that does affect people from time
to time. You just feel like a bit blair with
cooking app Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 17 (33:39):
And I've just been through a little a phase of
that myself, which really surprised me because I go through
it perhaps lest often than other people, but my job
relies on coming up with new recipe ideas, and I
just found myself very devoid of ideas.

Speaker 16 (33:52):
I was like, oh, I've done that. Oh, I don't know.
Sometimes it's a seasonal thing. Sometimes we just.

Speaker 17 (33:57):
At the end of winter, we're a bit sick of
the winter fear. We haven't quite hit our straps with
some of the beautiful summer fair that's up ahead. I
took myself away Jack down to Waipunamu, down to the
South Island, and because of.

Speaker 16 (34:12):
That, I wasn't in my own kitchen.

Speaker 17 (34:13):
I had to eat out a little bit, and I
just got hugely inspired. I was in Queenstown. I went
to Sherwood, which is one of my favorite restaurants down there,
and for example, I had a lot to eat there
as I would dining alone.

Speaker 16 (34:26):
Ordered everything, but one thing, for example, was.

Speaker 17 (34:29):
A salad that I had which was made out of
whitloof or indeed, there's those little boat.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Shape yet dive.

Speaker 11 (34:38):
There you go, one of us is right.

Speaker 9 (34:42):
I love it.

Speaker 17 (34:43):
And this was lay it up on a plate with
some little slices of pear on it, some flakes of almonds,
and then the beautiful, very honeyed vinagrette over it.

Speaker 16 (34:53):
And I had it three times in the three days
that I was.

Speaker 17 (34:56):
There because it was so damn juicy and delicious. And
I've come home, I'm recreating this in my own kitchen,
just with some cos lettus.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I can't sitify.

Speaker 17 (35:06):
It's called a whitloff, and then we both get out
of dale because it's the same. So eating out is
one beautiful way I think to get inspired. But there
are less expensive ways to doing that. One is obviously
through social media. These days, I do do a bit
of scrolling, and I you know, I'll look at a
cake and I'll think, oh my goodness, I forgot about
hummingbird cake.

Speaker 16 (35:27):
And now, sitting on my bench as we speak, I've
got a hummingbird.

Speaker 17 (35:31):
I've sort of taken it up a notch, which we'll
do that rest me next week, taking it up a
notch with a brown butter icing frosting on it, and
it's going to be amazing.

Speaker 16 (35:40):
We can go to the library.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
I do that often.

Speaker 17 (35:42):
They also went to the Wanica Library when I was
there and just picked up a food book and was
just flicking through that and was reminded, Oh, that's right,
there's kale in the world, and you don't always just
have to have it as a leaf.

Speaker 16 (35:55):
And so I've made some kale pisto.

Speaker 17 (35:57):
So I'm just giving our listeners a sort of idea of,
you know, where you can start if you're feeling a
bit stale.

Speaker 16 (36:05):
Generally, you're not.

Speaker 17 (36:06):
Going to find inspiration by looking in your own fridge
again or in your own cupboard again, unless you dive
to the back and discover the currants and the pine
nuts and you're reminded of all a lovely little salad
with that or something.

Speaker 16 (36:20):
But just to step outside your usual realm in some way,
and you know, we live in a time where that
is so dead.

Speaker 17 (36:26):
Easy to do, you know, and get a little notepad,
you know, watch an old Jamie Oliver rerun. You know,
flip through Instagram, but have a little notepad beside you
so that you can actually be going.

Speaker 16 (36:37):
I'm going to make those chicken and spinach meat balls.

Speaker 17 (36:41):
I'm going to make that list shoecake, the keys, yeah, yeah,
that as well as looking at the produced carrots are
amazing at the moment. Yeah, so you know, little carrot salad,
roasted carrots with a tahini dressing and something.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Hey, very quickly, we're gonna have to shoot a second.
What should ask don Hey she's with us after teen.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Oh well, I'll tell you what not to ask you.

Speaker 16 (37:03):
Don't ask you what if favorite dishes? But again today,
I guess you could ask her what?

Speaker 8 (37:11):
Ask her what.

Speaker 17 (37:12):
Inspires her these days compared with say teen or twenty
years ago when she was younger.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh, good question.

Speaker 14 (37:18):
I'd like to hear that.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, okay, okay, I'll do that.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (37:20):
Oh I love Dona Hay's.

Speaker 17 (37:22):
She is an inspiration, that is for sure. Her food
has changed over time, as we all do. If anything,
we get a little bit more simple in our cooking
as we get old, and nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 16 (37:32):
Just pure good ingredients.

Speaker 17 (37:33):
So I hope we've given some ideas and I'm sure
John will have some ideas for listeners.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Too fantastic, too right. She's an inspiration, as are you, Nikki.
Thank you very much, Nicky wiks there.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
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Speaker 2 (37:54):
It'd be we learning languages. Jack says Michelle, we are
a bilingual family from immigrants. Just out of interest, as
your wife speak Iranian? If so, has she passed it
on to her son because you didn't mention them in
the languages that he can speak. So she speaks Farsi, yep.
But she she says, she speaks it like a five
year old. But then when I see her speak it
to her grandparents or to her mum, I'm always like, well,

(38:15):
you sound better than a five year old to me.
But of course I can't understand any of it. So
she's like, no, no, it's so embarrassing. I'm doing such
a bad job. So truthfully, our boy and I are
not good Persian speakers. I know how to say thanks Merci,
that's an easy one. I know how to say kiss, boose,

(38:35):
But yeah, there's a wee way to go on the Persian.
Given how much I struggled with Spanish, which is Latin derivative,
then I yeah, I shuddered to think it. How poor
I would be studying PHARISEI. But if you have any
tips on learning languages, I am all ears. Right after
the news this morning, legendary culinary my stro master Dona

(38:57):
Hay is gonna be with us live. Cannot wait for
that news is next, so it's almost ten on News Talks.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
He'd be.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
A cracking way to start your seat Saturday mornings with
Jack Day and vpure dot co dot Inza for high
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Speaker 2 (39:35):
More koto you with Jack Tame, Good morning and welcome
to news Talks. He'd be Donahey is a bona fide
culinary legend, known of course for her fresh and vibrant
ingredient choices, her beautiful but minimalistic approach to food styling,
and recipes that are grounded in reality for those of us,
myself included, who are busy but still want to eat well.

(39:57):
So if you like the sound of one pan undone lasagna,
crunchy Chipotle chicken tray bake and sticky pork belly that's
tasty and on Golden Crunch. Then Donna's new book, Too
Easy is going to be a bit of you and
Donna Hey is with us live this morning. Kilda, Welcome
to the show.

Speaker 14 (40:16):
Thanks Jack morning.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's so good to be speaking with you. I know
so many of our listeners are really excited. I'm just
going to start with a big question. Where does the
inspo come from?

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Is it you?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Is it the publisher? Is someone saying, Donna, can you
write a book about this? Or do you automatically know
when you're publishing something new the kind of themes that
you want to extol through your recipes.

Speaker 18 (40:36):
I wish it was that easy. It's kind of a
combination of all of it. You know, I'm a busy
working mum. I have friends who are asking me questions
all the time, and then of course my publisher is involved.

Speaker 14 (40:49):
But you know, as you mentioned in your intro.

Speaker 18 (40:53):
The one pan under Lasagna, I realized I hadn't cooked
my children lasagna for a very very long time, because
even on the weekend, Jack, I am not coming home
and layering up that deliciousness and taking two hours out
of my life for it to be consumed by very
hungry boys in a matter of minutes.

Speaker 13 (41:15):
So I kind of look at things that I want
to redo or is there a quicker way to do
this while getting all the you know, the gorgeous layers
and the younginness of lasagna, and how can I reinvent
mac and cheese?

Speaker 14 (41:26):
Is there a better way to do this?

Speaker 18 (41:28):
I cannot stand at the stove making cheese sauce for
my beautiful son who is addicted to mac and cheese anymore.

Speaker 14 (41:34):
So you know, it's just I guess it's I guess
it's just life.

Speaker 18 (41:38):
That kind of dictates what I'm going to try and
twist and turn into a great recipe.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Well see, that's I think there's the term right there,
twist and turn right, because it seems to me for
the way that you look at things as you are
often reimagining, right, so you're often tweaking and certainly and
too easy. That's the kind of approach you've taken. You've
you've found ways that are like really not convenience food necessarily,
but stuff that would take a bit longer for you know,

(42:05):
like if you can it's been two hours cooking at
lasagn you're an Actually there might be an easy way
to do things.

Speaker 18 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I think you can find those shortcuts.
And and you said, I'm not in to process food,
but I think there are some things that you can
definitely keep in your pantry that just punch above their weight.
You know, things that you might only use, like wasabi
paste for example.

Speaker 14 (42:28):
You know you think, oh, yeah, we just have that
with sushi.

Speaker 18 (42:30):
Well, actually, when you add it to a dressing or
a marinade, it adds that extra zing and it doesn't
have to blow your head off like you know, Misa paste.
You know that adds just this extra layer to things.
And it's not just a single layer like a salty
soy or something. It's it's a lot more So I
think by you know, discovering those kind of flavors again

(42:52):
and adding them to things that you wouldn't expect like
dressings and marinades, I think it's the key to kind
of that shortcut we're.

Speaker 14 (42:59):
All looking for.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
How do you like to shop for ingredients?

Speaker 18 (43:07):
Look, I always hit the fresh produce section first and
I kind of go from there because I am more
inspired by fresh produce. I think a lot of people
decide what's for dinner by saying, Hey, we're going to
have chicken. But I like to kind of hit the
fresh produce section and you know, there was just crazy, great,

(43:28):
really white, fantastic looking colliflower the other day. So I'm
the kind of person that piles that into my trolley
and we either make recipes with it when we get
to the studio or I come home and I get
on my own website luckily, and I kind of go
from there because I think, you know, when food is
so expensive, if you can just buy things that are

(43:50):
in season, because in season means that it's a lot
more inexpensive to buy, and you go from there, I
think it's a really smart way to start your cooking.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, And actually that's like a critical point right especially
right now. I think everyone in Australia and New Zealand
and many parts of the world is kind of feeling
the pinch at the moment. So do you have other
tips outside of outside of cooking sea, you know, using
seasonal ingredients for trying to have delicious meals but on
a pretty good budget.

Speaker 14 (44:22):
You know, I would always say to start with the
veg first.

Speaker 18 (44:25):
And I know this horrifies some people, but if you
replace a couple of meals with veg instead of always
going for a slab of chicken or beef or whatever you're.

Speaker 14 (44:36):
Buying in the kind of meat aisle, you can really
save a lot of money.

Speaker 18 (44:41):
And I love eating veg dishes, so I think, you know,
I think they should stand up to converting meat.

Speaker 11 (44:48):
It is over.

Speaker 14 (44:49):
So I always make them full.

Speaker 18 (44:50):
Of flavor and you know, really texted and crunchy. They're
not insipid and just you know, not satisfying. I think
the keys are really good vege recipes. You eat it
and you go, oh, my goodness, this is so.

Speaker 14 (45:01):
Full of young Yeah. With the cauliflower, I coated it.
It's in the book.

Speaker 18 (45:05):
I don't think I still stuck to script because I
didn't have a book at home. I gave it away
on the way home, which is so me. But it's
it was a tiny little bit of honey, smoky pepitka
coating that then you crisp.

Speaker 14 (45:18):
Up on the outside of the couliflower and so addictive.

Speaker 19 (45:21):
Yeah, I mean that's beautiful A And yeah, it's kind
of a It's a relatively simple combination, but there's such
a richness in that day, especially with the.

Speaker 18 (45:33):
Yeah, and then the tahini makes such a great crust
on the outside of the cauliflower.

Speaker 14 (45:38):
They've got this beautiful.

Speaker 18 (45:39):
Brown crunch on the outside, and then you know, the
softer coliflower on the inside.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah, do you boys cock?

Speaker 18 (45:46):
You know, there's a funny thing about boys is that
they will cook when they're starving, which in my case,
in my house, as you can imagine, Jack, there's always
someone starving to death.

Speaker 14 (45:56):
Of course, of course, yeah, they will, they will.

Speaker 18 (46:00):
We've got a bit of an age range. The little
ones will cook with me. The big ones cook when
they're starving.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Right, So they're like, they're very much like cooking for
sustenance rather than than pleasure at the moment.

Speaker 14 (46:13):
Yeah, I'm the way.

Speaker 18 (46:14):
And sometimes I see them with a little bit more
time they're making something elaborate. But I think as rebellious children,
they wouldn't follow one of my recipes yet. Yeah, unless
they're baking like they want to. They want to impress me,
So they're usually making up some concoction of their own.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Oh that's good though, So they're creative about it, Yeah,
they are.

Speaker 14 (46:35):
They definitely are.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well, I mean, successfully creative. If they're cooking up a concoction.
I do remember the meals that I made my appearance
as a kid, and I don't think they were they
were necessarily leaping to try them.

Speaker 18 (46:46):
You know, let's just say, Jack, they're probably somewhere between
there and and edible, but they're eating them.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, so's there's something. Hey, what inspires
you today compared to say, teen or fifteen years ago.

Speaker 14 (47:08):
Oh, that's a really good question.

Speaker 18 (47:10):
I think maybe there's more environmental impacts and other impacts
just in the background that I don't spook about.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Interesting, tell us more about that time.

Speaker 18 (47:20):
Well, we just touched on the veggio recipes, right, So
not everyone in my house is happy to eat veg
I have big six foot three, you know, teenage boys,
so they're like.

Speaker 14 (47:31):
What, I'm not doing that?

Speaker 18 (47:33):
So I think, you know, there's a lot to be
said about our food chain and where it comes from
without getting down that wormhole. But you know, I really
try and deliver recipes that maybe just have a little
less chicken breast than WEAR sort of have somehow got
used to eating. So I'm mindful of the guidelines. Is Okay,

(47:54):
we need this much steak or chicken and stuff, So
I kind of do that in the background, but I
don't just leave things out. I will add something else
in to make that feel like a really satisfying me. Yeah,
but I don't, you know, it's I've kind of feel
like you've touched on something.

Speaker 14 (48:11):
Check.

Speaker 18 (48:12):
I've kind of feel like it's my responsibility to be,
you know, to be a little bit more mindful of
those things. It's not just cost of living, it's health then,
and what habits have we fallen into? You know, how
big is that chicken breastack? Should you be eating the
whole thing or is it not on our dietary guidelines?

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I think you're totally right. We have kind of maybe
just slipped into a bit of a place where a
lot of us think you have to have meat with
if we dinner, and actually there are many parts of
the world where you know, you might only have meat
once a week if you're lucky.

Speaker 18 (48:46):
Yeah, And we have fallen into that marketing of you know,
there's only protein in meat, and there's only all the
proteins in meat, and it was just marketing that should
have been stopped a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
No, I totally agree. That's really interesting. Ear Fries so
and too easy. You have included some ear fry options.
How do you feel about ear fries?

Speaker 14 (49:07):
I'm gay.

Speaker 18 (49:08):
So my boys would come to me with their phones
because I have older boys social media, going Mum, can
we cook this off social media? I'd be like, no,
and that looks like it came. That's disgusting, look like, no,
we're not buying an air fry.

Speaker 14 (49:23):
We're not buying.

Speaker 18 (49:24):
So resisted for so long, and then we were just
chatting in the office and I was like, Okay, why
don't we just buy one and see what the hype
is about, because you know the stats we got every
two in three households in America on an air fry.
You know, we were just being inundated with these stats.
I was like, Okay, we're gonna buy one. We're gonna
buy one, We're gonna jump in. We're going to be
those people. And as much as I would never throw

(49:47):
a whole chicken in my air fry, I'm just not
that person. I have a perfectly good oven jack in
a roasting pan, you know, and I do love the
process of cooking, so I'm not about to stick something
in a drawer and hope for the best. So what
we did find is that adding super crunch to things
and and a little bit of speed, that you could

(50:09):
make some things that were really great. I don't think
it's necessarily big chunks of protein, but little bites of
caramelized pork belly.

Speaker 14 (50:19):
And then I do a.

Speaker 18 (50:20):
Pie just out of a flowered to a tilla that
you just stuff with ricotta and spinach, or you can
do you know, leftover chicken and ricotder and leftover veedge,
whatever you've got in the fridge and make these really
crunchy little pies in your air fryer.

Speaker 14 (50:33):
Still, you know, still a great dinner.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Yeah, and full of nutrition.

Speaker 18 (50:37):
But yeah, I kind of that chapter HONEYE Bought an
air Fryer is kind of my version of air fryer Jack.

Speaker 14 (50:44):
Yeah, not my son's version of air.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Fry sure, But I mean it's like, because when ear
fries came out, I thought, oh, here we go. You know,
here's another The ear fries are going to be the
new popcorn makers. You know, just totally a totally unnecessary
kitchen implement. But I wonder if they've meant or you know,
even bread makers. I know that breed makers have kind
of come back a little bit, but you know, remember
when everyone had a breed maker in about two thousand

(51:09):
and four. You know, I thought I was the new
bread maker. But now but it feels like it's gone
to the next level. And like you say, the recipes
that you've shared and Too Easy for air Friers are
kind of maybe it's air friers, but not like air
fryer meals that you might see on Instagram.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
Is that fair?

Speaker 18 (51:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not my eighteen year old's TikTok
feed y's for sure.

Speaker 20 (51:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (51:34):
Yeah, Thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Well, look, congratulations on Too Easy, and thank you because
I know so many people who'll be listening right now
love your cooking and love your recipes, but they also
love the idea of having a whole set of new,
really easy, affordable recipes that they'll be able to share
with their families. They look delicious. So we really appreciate
your time. Thanks so much, Jack, really appreciate it. That

(51:59):
is Dona Hay. Her new book is Too Easy and
all of the details for it will be up on
the news talks he'd b website. It's just coming up
to twenty past ten.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack
Taine and bpure dot code on inst for high quality
supplements used talk said, B.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
You see that's journalism right there. That is journalism. The
Keida journalism is to ask an expert like Nicki Wicks
before your interview with Donna Hay, what you should be
asking Donna Hay. Nicky says, ask Donahey, what inspires you
today compared to ten years ago? You asked Dona Hey, hey, Donna,
what inspires you compared to ten years ago? And she says,
ooh great question. Oh how good. As tempted to say thanks,

(52:41):
I came up with it myself. Twenty three minutes past
ten on your Saturday morning, it is screen time time.
Tara Ward is our screen time expert. She's got her
picks for shows to watch to stream this week. Hey Tara,
good morning. Okay, let's begin with the show streaming on
Apple tv Plus. Tell us about Disclaimer.

Speaker 21 (52:59):
Yeah, this is a new psychological thriller that's just landed
on Apple TV Plus. It stars Kate Blanchett and is
directed by Fonso Quiron, who has won numerous Academy Awards.
He made film like Gravity and Harry Potter. So there's
some really big names attached to this show, and Kate
Blanchett plays a famous documentary maker who one day receives
a book in the mail and she discovers, to her

(53:22):
horror that the book tells the story.

Speaker 10 (53:24):
Of her life.

Speaker 21 (53:24):
It contains every secret she has, secrets she's been hiding
for years, and secrets she obviously doesn't want anyone else
to know about. And Kevin Klein is in this too.
He plays an elderly widower who discovers the manuscript of
the book, which was written by his wife, and he
publishes it in an act of revenge, sort of deliberately
trying to take down Kate Blinchett's character. And the lives

(53:46):
of these two people are going to cross again, just
like they did twenty years ago when the secret occurred. Now,
Kate Blanchett is amazing in this, as you would expect,
and I think if she wasn't in this, this would
feel a little bit more soapy and melodramatic, but she
really elevates it. And because it's an Apple TV Plus show,
it looks amazing. It's very glossy. It's filmed inside the
beautiful London homes. A lot of it is shot in

(54:09):
Venice and Italy as well, so visually it's gorgeous. I
don't know if it will be tense enough to sustain
seven episodes. It's not the most subtle of shows, at
least in the first episode, but I liked where it
started and I'm really keen to see where it goes cool.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Okay, that's disclaimer. It's on Apple TV Plus on Neon.
You've seen Sweet Pea.

Speaker 21 (54:29):
Yeah, this is a very dark, quirky new comedy series
that's made by the producers of Heart Stopper and Slow Horses.
So we're already off to a good start. But it's
a British comedy about a young woman in her twenties
named Rhiannon and Rihanna is invisible. Nobody notices rhann And
at work, or in her family, or in society. She's
a very meek and mild kind of person, and when

(54:52):
her father dies, has last words to her are to
stand up for herself to be noticed, and his death
sets rhann And on a new path.

Speaker 10 (54:59):
It causes her to kind.

Speaker 21 (55:01):
Of unleash twenty years of repressed rage and anger and
she becomes this very unlikely serial killer. She has had
enough and she has a long list of people who
have done her wrong, and because she's overlooked and ignored
by everyone, it means she manages to keep getting away
with murder. If you like your comedy really dark and
a bit bleak, but still very sharp and funny and quirky,

(55:24):
you will love this. It reminded me a bit of
Dexter or Killing Eve. It is a little bit violent,
but I think because it's a British comedy, it's got
that sort of self deprecating quality to it and it
doesn't take itself too seriously, which kind of balances out all.

Speaker 16 (55:38):
The dark stuff.

Speaker 21 (55:39):
They've called this a coming of rage story, so you
know it's dark, but it's also a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah, nice, Okay, that's sweet. Pea on neon and can't
wait for this the new series of The Restaurant That
Makes Mistakes.

Speaker 21 (55:51):
Yes, this is a new season of the show that
started on TVNZ plus a TVNZ last year. It's based
on a Japanese format which then went to the UK
and then came to New Zealand and It's an observational
documentary series about a group of New Zealand volunteers who
have all been diagnosed with dementia or Alzheimer's and who
come together to run a restaurant. So it's overseen by

(56:12):
Ben Bailey, who's an award winning chef, and he opens
up his restaurant in Auckland, and over a few weeks,
these volunteers gradually learn new skills about how to prepare
and cook meals and how to welcome guests and take
orders and that they're running the whole thing by the
end of it. And the series wants us to see
dementia in a different light. It wants to show us

(56:34):
that people with dementia still have a really important place
in society, they still have valuable skills and contributions to make.
It's made with the support of Dementia New Zealand, and
it's just a really emotional and heartwarming and thought provoking series.
It's done in a very gentle and warm way, and
there's these wonderful moments of humor in there as well,

(56:54):
but just such a beautiful show. Season two starts on
Monday night, but season one is on TVZ Plus.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Now Yeah, yeah, so good. I can't wife for that. Hey,
I just finished this week, and you know how I'm
always miles behind with everything. I've just finished season two
of The Beer. So there's three seasons of The Beer.
I've just seen season two. It was amazing. It was amazing,
tar Like I just found myself, like, you know, you
watch it at night time, and then I would find

(57:22):
myself wake up at three o'clock in the morning and
I was just thinking, oh, my gosh, it was such
an amazing episode. And then the next day I would
get to work and it would be like eleven am.
And I just want to talk to people about The
Beer constantly. Is it really, you know, really stuck with me?

Speaker 10 (57:36):
Such a great show.

Speaker 21 (57:36):
And I'll be interested to hear what you think about
season three when you get to that, because that's been
quite a polarizing Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
It sounds like it has. Yeah, Okay, I'm a bit
anxious about it actually given it so polarizing, but yeah,
my gosh, it is a remarkable series. So thank you
very much. We will put all of those recommendations disclaimer
Sweet Pea and the restaurant that makes mistakes up on
the News Talk He'd be website. It is just coming
up to ten thirty.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Getting your weekends started Saturday morning with Jack Team on
News Talks.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
B So, No, I love you so ah, so good.

(58:39):
As a band, Coldplay have transitioned from the melancholic ballads
of their early albums to starr eyed, stadium anthems. Now
they've just dropped their tenth album, The Tenth Chris Martin
next he says he's only going to do two more.
He reckons that twelve albums and Coldplay will be done.
And I don't know their music over the last couple
of years, it hasn't excited me as much as their

(59:02):
first albums. I honestly reckon that Coldplay's first three albums
or all three, would be in my top ten albums
of all time American. Their first three albums are just
incredible anyway. You know, they've really like leaned into stadium
rock and look nothing wrong with that. You know, they
have the whole like led wristband thing, and their gigs
are absolutely enormous. The atmosphere at them is incredible. They're

(59:23):
doing three nights I think at Edon Park is starting
next month. Anyway, they've got a brand new album so
perfectly timed for their New Zealand tour. The album is
called Moon Music, and we're going to have a bit
of a listen to that before midday today. So the
news this morning from Mount Everest is that the remains
of Sandy Irvine have been discovered, or appear to have

(59:44):
been discovered. Now, Sandy Irvine was a climber who attempted
to climb Mount Everest with George Mallory in nineteen twenty four,
So yeah, like decades before Hillary Intenzing made it to
the top. It's never been totally clear if they made
it or not. George Mallory was a really really accomplished mountaineer.
He tried to climb it with Sandy Irvine. George Mallory's

(01:00:06):
remains were found about twenty twenty five years ago, and
it wasn't clear from his remains whether or not they'd
made the top. Sandy irvine remains hadn't been found, although
Sandy Irvine had been carrying a camera, so a lot
of people thought, oh well, if we could find his
remains and find the camera, there might be photographic evidence
that these two reach the top of Mount Everest before
Hillary Intensing. Anyway, the news from Mount Everest is that

(01:00:29):
Sandy Irvine's remains have been found. It's a little bit macarb.
It's one of those sort of strange things. It is
a really momentous discovery, but obviously, you know there's an
emotional discovery for Sandy Yrvine's family as well. Interestingly, the
person who found the remains is a friend of the show.
Jimmy Chin, the Oscar winning director who has been with

(01:00:52):
us on Saturday Mornings before, was up filming a documentary
for National Geographic on Mount Everest when he made the
discovery of a boot. Inside the boot was a sock.
The sock had Sandy Irvine's initials engraved on the inside. Now,
at the moment, they haven't found any other remains, they
haven't found a camera or anything like that. But yeah,

(01:01:12):
certainly it's it's a significant discovery and it will be
interesting to see if as more of the glacier melt
on man Everest, if any further remains are discovered, and
if it gives us any more indication as to whether
or not Mallory and Irvine made it to the top
of mand Everest in nineteen twenty four. Right now it

(01:01:34):
is twenty five minutes to eleven. You were Jack Tame
on News Talks, he'd be our text Bert with Elon
Musk's latest announcement.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Next putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

Speaker 22 (01:01:45):
Breakfast Crown account numbers remind us it's all still a mess.
The deficit blew out to twelve point nine bill and
former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce is whether us the two
point four that Nicholas shackled herself, whethers she asked for
trouble on that. Given it's already spent and we're not
even into next year.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
It's going to be very tough. And I heard the
eat you guys saying they're terrible. You know, we shouldn't
have cut the fairies. I shouldn't pretty calculated and even
hospital reason for hat mets because you've doubled debt in
six years and now you're running a deficit of twelve
point nine billion. The answer to his question is, well,
you should have got your mate Grant to be under
much greater control three or four years ago, and maybe

(01:02:19):
we wouldn't be having to make these sorts of decisions.

Speaker 22 (01:02:21):
Mag Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
the Rain drover of the last News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Twenty three to eleven on News Talk ZB overnight. Elon
Musk has held a robo event with all sorts of
new product and designs, including robotaxis, robo vans, and something
called a humanoid. Texpert Paul stenhouses here with the details.
What on earth is a humanoid?

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Paul?

Speaker 23 (01:02:46):
Yeah, So, if you've ever seen Will Smith's movie I
Robot came out in two thousand and four, it's usually,
you know, a good classic to watch when you've got
not whole lot else on in the queue. That is
basically what Elon Musk says you're going to be able
to buy by the end of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (01:03:04):
Now hopefully it's the good.

Speaker 23 (01:03:05):
One and not the bad ones robot, but he is
calling it the biggest product ever, right, He's saying it
as an autonomous assistant.

Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
And a humanoid friend.

Speaker 9 (01:03:18):
And let me say, I.

Speaker 23 (01:03:22):
Saw the headline, saw the video and thought I was
kind of skeptical, I'll be honest, pushed play on the
video and was maybe terrified, but he may be amazed,
I don't know. Right, So, these this robot started to
have it lookause it looks like a robot, looks like
a human. It looks it's got arms and legs, and
it's got like a rotator thing where it's hipstar, so

(01:03:46):
its body can swivel around and it it was having
a conversation with someone and it looked.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
At them, It engaged with them. It spoke to them
in like a cadence.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
And tone that was just off puttingly normal.

Speaker 16 (01:03:59):
I don't know how I was to put it.

Speaker 23 (01:04:00):
And then I was reading an article on it said
that one event attend told this robe that it was
doing a good job as it was pouring it a
cocktail from a keg.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Yeah right, true, okay, story.

Speaker 23 (01:04:13):
Yeah, the robot looked up and said, you want to
get a photo, and then made a peace sign with
its hands, like ready for the photo.

Speaker 24 (01:04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
Crazy.

Speaker 23 (01:04:21):
So Emil Musk had them at this event. They were dancing,
they were serving cocktails, they were chatting with people. They
showed a video where he's trying to position them. I
guess is almost like Rosy from the Jetsons.

Speaker 7 (01:04:33):
I guess.

Speaker 23 (01:04:34):
Yeah, you know, being able to what are your plants,
collect your packages, clean up the kitchen after dinner, unpack
your groceries, or play a board.

Speaker 7 (01:04:46):
Game with the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
So he said, he said on X quote, it will
be able to do anything you want. It can be
a teacher, babysit your kids, walk your dog, mow your lawn,
get the groceries. Just be your friend. Whatever you can
think of, it will do.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Be your friend.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
So these are going to cost at the moment, what
like four what your fifty grand or something.

Speaker 23 (01:05:07):
Like that, so New Zealand dollars. Yeah, I'm saying somewhere between,
like and there's a lofty goal, right. They think they're
gonna have them ready by the end of twenty twenty five. Yeah,
he's saying it's going to be less than the price
of a car. Now, don't get me wrong, that's a
rather large price tag.

Speaker 11 (01:05:22):
Yes, if it can do all of those things, I
guess it'll pay for.

Speaker 23 (01:05:28):
Itself pretty quickly.

Speaker 7 (01:05:29):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:05:30):
I mean imagine the field because here's so, here's here's
the cell.

Speaker 25 (01:05:33):
Right.

Speaker 23 (01:05:34):
The marketing materials are saying they should be taking on
the dangerous and the boring tasks in your life. Right
if you're a business owner, right, what are those like
really boring, really repetitive tasks that you could I mean,
that's a pretty fifty grand these robots. Yes, that's a salary,
it is, Yeah, I mean it's always that's where we're

(01:05:56):
going and I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I don't want to be the guy who says this
isn't going to happen. But I am acutely aware that
Elon Musk was the one who said that we would
all have like fully autonomous vee was about seven or
eight years ago, right, and we aren't quite there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:06:11):
The robocab looked kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Though it did look kind of cool. Just explain the robocab.

Speaker 23 (01:06:16):
So the robocab, imagine a car, no steering wheel, no pedals,
just two seats and a G G enormous screen sitting
in front of you, and you tell it where you
want to go in a way it goes. But then
there's the robo van Jack with right looks like a
futuristic airstream whose worst enemy is probably a speed bump.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Yeah, this thing is so low to the ground.

Speaker 23 (01:06:37):
Looks cool, but it looks like it's going to get
destroyed by a bad road.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Yes, or a slight slow yeah yeah yeah, can't make
it up a driveway, but it looks very cool. Oh
yeah yeah, look, hey, thanks Paul. Yeah, it's going to
be fascinating to see if these if these human alids
actually do make it to market, especially by the end
of next year. Before eleven o'clock, we are in the
garden with the fertilizers that you need to get your
spring plants absolutely humming at this time of year. Next up,

(01:07:06):
our Master of Wine has his pick for us this week.
It's eighteen to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
It's no better way to kick off your weekend then
with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and Vpewart on
cot Z for high Quality Supplements Used Talks, NB.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Sixteen two eleven Non News Talks, z'b. Bob Campbell, our
Master of Wine has chosen a Villa Maria Sala selection
merlow Kebinet seven sauvignon as his wine of the week
for us to Bob.

Speaker 24 (01:07:32):
Cura, Jack, So why did you choose this? Well, the
wine was actually selected by the It's Gimblet Gravels. It's
from the from the Gimblet Gravels district of Hawke's Bay
and once a year the Gimblet Gravels wine makers picked
their top dozen wines and share it with critics like myself,

(01:07:55):
and I was particularly taken with it. It's just for
sheer value. It's just sort of pretty hard to beat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, what does it taste like?

Speaker 24 (01:08:08):
Fresh and fruity? You know, it's sort of dark berry
and plum flavors. It's got a little seasoning of spicy
oak there that comes through moderately intense, but just the
delicious wine that really has me reaching for a second glass.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Yeah, and how was the twenty twenty two Vintage?

Speaker 24 (01:08:28):
Twenty twenty two was a pretty average vishance to be honest,
but this is a well above average average average wine.
So it's a sort of an exception proving the rule.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I think, yeah, you said punch as well above as white.
We can you buy Bob.

Speaker 24 (01:08:46):
I managed to find it a whiskey online in Auckland
for sixteen ninety nine. Now the regular price is eighteen
ninety nine, so that's a pretty sharp, pretty sharp price.
Vitus sellars in Auckland also have it by the case
twelve bottles for one hundred and thirteen sixty four and

(01:09:08):
black market dot co dot Nz always have a bargain
on standby. They're one hundred and thirty ninety four for
a dozen bottles. It's worth checking your supermarket shelves because
it's one of these wines that comes and goes fairly quickly,
I will imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Yeah, what would be a good food match? Do you
think for the Maria.

Speaker 24 (01:09:35):
Barbecued steak? You know, it's just sort of out on
the deck and flipping a steak. It's a sort of wine.
It's a really good for the summer season. It's slight,
you can drink it slightly chill. That might horrify some listeners,
but there's a new section appearing on wine shop shelves

(01:10:01):
called chilled Red, so I might talk about that later.
It's a happening friend at the moment, it is happening
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
So would you drink it now? Or do you reckon?
It'll it'll do well for a couple of years.

Speaker 24 (01:10:15):
Well, I think it's I quite like bright, fresh, fruity flavors,
So that that's what I'm going to get now and
in five years time, if I can hang on to
it that long, it's going to be more become more
mellow and slightly savory, and that's that's got appeal too
for me. So so it's a it's a hard call,

(01:10:38):
but I'd given the choice, I'd probably go for the
fresh Yeah, yeah, right, But.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
It depends what you like. It certainly won't be ruined
if you give it five years in a stable environment,
right right, yeah, ah, very good. Hey, thank you so much,
Bob appreciate it as always. Bob Campbell is our master
of wine, and his best buy for us this week
is a Villa Maria seller selection Merlow Cabinet Sauvignon. We
will put all of the details for that up on

(01:11:03):
the News tours. He'd be website after eleven on News
Talks ed b Paula Hawkins, the author behind The Girl
on the Train, has a brand new book. Our book
reviewer has been reading that says she's going to give
us all the details on that. Plus I'm going to
make sure we save plenty of times so we can
listen to some of Coldplay's new album Moon Music has
been released just in time for the New Zealand tour,

(01:11:25):
so it'll be interesting if you go into those concerts.
I suppose it's a good time to start listening to
a bit of it. Although knowing Coldplay, they're pretty they're
not that you know how some artists can be total
punishers and just not punishers, I suppose. But they only
play their new music and everyone's desperate for some old stuff.
I feel like Coldplay. Coldplay gets it, they know the
deal right. So when they're playing Eden Park, I think

(01:11:46):
there'll be a mix between some of the new new
tracks off Moon Music and some of the old classics
as well. Right now, it's just gone eleven minutes to eleven,
give a Jactame on News talks edb with still.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Sharp don't less their biggest spring sale ever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Rude Climb passes our man in the garden killed her.
Well you are, you're europepolic. How many languages do you speak, Rude?
I can imagine a.

Speaker 7 (01:12:11):
Few, yes, quite a few. But that's that's all by accident.
The the thing actually you you made a really good
comment about, you know, other countries in the Netherlands we
needed we spoke Dutch, of course, but it was compulsory
for us to learn French, German and English. Wow. And
so you came, you came basically out of school with
four languages. And and because French was so difficult, you

(01:12:35):
had to start in the primary in primary school French. Yeah,
we started a year earlier with French. It's good fun.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
So so did you find French? I mean, German is
more kind of rigid with its grammar structure. Right, But yeah,
so did you find French more tricky than those other languages.

Speaker 7 (01:12:53):
Yes, it is a little bit because of all the
genders and stuff like that as well, but that's that's
of no concern really because once you've done things like
French and you go to Italy on holiday a couple
of times, and then you go to Spain, you pick
you literally picked them up. The only thing that I've
totally lost this Mongolian.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Oh yes, no, the same thing happened to me. That's
the problem with your mongoingan.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Yeah, it's so lost. It's like I never had it
in the first place. That's our lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
very good. Well what about learning English? Sorry, very quickly,
what about learning English? Because that's supposed to be quite difficult, right, No,
it's not.

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
English For me was quite easy because everything on the
television was in English trend was all subtitled, so there
was an easy way of learning. Well, actually that's a
good idea, the subtitling up until yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Well, I reckon that the TV show Friends has talked
more people English than any educational assets, you know, like
so many people out of world have watched Friends and
just learned. But I always think like little quirky things
with English. Sorry, we're going on it. This is very
unlike us, I know, we never never get diverted whatsoever.
But you know, like it's the classic, it's the big

(01:14:05):
red dog, right, so in English we just know it's
the big read dog. Well why is it not the
read big dog. There are lots of little quirks in
English like that. So if I said that read big
dog over there, you say, well, that's a weird thing
to say. But it's kind of hard to define why
that's a rule, especially if you're learning and you know
English is the second language anyway.

Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
On the other hand, when you are doing those languages,
Latin languages, you learn Latin, and that is forgardening quite interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Oh yes, exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:14:35):
Well this is the point NPK nitrogen phosphate, and potash
K is carlium. That's the actual word for it, and
so it's quite easy to understand that. And the same
with the names of plants, yes exactly, yeah, and birds
and everything else. So I was going to have a
little chat about, you know, seeing it's finding a bit
nice and warm about fertilizers and people. I think it's

(01:14:58):
always good. So that's why I wrote this quite a
lot of stuff that goes on your website about NPK,
how it all works, and what you need for which plants. Right,
you know, that's the one and first of all, and
it's for nitrogen. That means it makes green stuff. PA
is for root development, so that's for you know, root crops,
and case potest's for sex basically flowers and fruits. There

(01:15:21):
you go. So the more and you have, the more
you get into green, the more pea you have, you
get more into roots and plant health, and the K
the potest is for flowers and fruits. So it's it's
as simple as that. So I gave some examples of
what you use for lawns, what you use for carrots,
what you use for tomatoes, et cetera. And then there's
all these other things. And here comes latin quite nicely,

(01:15:43):
magnesium and sulfur, calcium, copper, iron, zinc, manganese, you name it.
They're all called trace elements and they eat them as well,
so you need a little bit of that too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Yeah, yeah, okay, that is the basic thing.

Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
So the rest you can read on the website.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
That well, what you've done is you've got to really
useful suggestions for potatoes and tomatoes and roses and that
kind of thank you. What about dog pee?

Speaker 7 (01:16:09):
Dog pee is absolutely full of nitrogen. So if you
have a dog that sits there and does one huge
way on the lawn, it becomes yellow. It is too
much nitrogen and it becomes literally overdosed.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Yeah, the grass goes yellow and it starts to become
bear and all that sort of stuff, and you need
sometimes you resow it. But here comes the thing. It's
mostly the female dogs that do that damage.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Why is that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Do you ask?

Speaker 7 (01:16:38):
Well, if you have a male dog, it goes tiny
little bit cocks its leg, tiny little bit here, tiny
little bit there, tiny little bit there. It basically makes
its mics off its territory.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
And female dogs don't like their territory.

Speaker 7 (01:16:54):
No, they go like, I've gotta go now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I had no idea about that. Okay, So so.

Speaker 7 (01:17:03):
People, if you've got these patches on the loan, you've
got a female dog, get a different dog.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Yeah, well I had This is great. It is never
not an educational few minutes that we share our Saturday
mornings through. That's what I that's what I love about it.
Very good. Hey, thank you. We will put your your
your advice, your explanations and the tips on different types
of fertilizer for different plants. Will make sure all of
those are up and available on the website. You have

(01:17:29):
yourself a great weekend, won't you. Austellaeo. That is rude
climb past in the garden for us this morning. Like
I say, all of those bits and pieces at Newstalks
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we put all the good stuff from our show, those
those TV shows from our screen time segment. They're all
up there on the website right now. Recipes that we share,

(01:17:52):
film reviews, books, everything goes up on the news Talks.
He'd be website. After eleven o'clock, our travel correspondent is
taking us to Sri Lanka's world heritage spots and he's
going to give us his favorite wildlife tips in Sri
Lanka as well. Plus a new book from Paula Hawkins
from The Girl on the Train Fame, and new music
play for you from Coldplay. It's almost eleven o'clock. Doon'tws

(01:18:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Bathur's weekend at Mount Panorama. I think things kick off
tomorrow just after one o'clock New Zealand time is when
they kick off, so they because they usually finished just
before the six news, don't they, So they get through
a thousand k's and yeah, very quickly. It doesn't come
as a huge surprise anyway. We're gonna ask Jason Pine
about that before midday today, get his thoughts on the

(01:19:15):
All Whites performance too as they begin their World Cup
qualifying campaign. As well as that, we're gonna listen to
some music from cold Play. They have just released their
tenth album, it's called Moon Music. Their last few albums
have been very stadium rock heavy, which is not necessarily
a bad thing. They are, of course playing three dates
at Eden Park in just a few weeks time, so
we will make sure we play some mood music before

(01:19:38):
twelve o'clock as well. Right now, it's eight minutes past
eleven and our sustainability commentator Kate Hall is with us
this morning. Calder Kate Hey day, and we are talking
about litter in the ocean. And this is one of
those things that every time any of us walks along
the beach and you see all the bits of rubbish
and plastic and things on the beach, you kind of

(01:19:59):
feel sick inside. But of course that's always you know,
that's like a you know, only just kind of scraping
the very edge of the problem, right, and you're behind
a new effort to try and clean up our oceans
a little bit.

Speaker 25 (01:20:10):
Yeah, So sustainable Coastlines have I think probably most people
know about them, and they're exactly what it sounds like,
disencouraging people to clean up our coastlines and oceans. And
they've just released this kind of litter intelligence report because
they've been working with you know, thousands of individuals doing
beach clean up, so they know the types of rubbish

(01:20:33):
that are most common. Yeah, and you know, kind of
the main culprit so that we can actually kind of
catch our ways from the start, because you know, most people,
as you think about all those pieces of litter on
the coastline, they probably have come from a household who
didn't think they were littering, you know, like just it's
blown away in the wind because yeah, like i'd like

(01:20:55):
to think that most kiwis don't just throw things on
the ground, you know. So yeah, with this kind of
litter intelligence report they've come out, you know, and fish
and chip shops, how there's a kind of species chart,
the classic you know, and I probably it's kind of
a mandatory for fish and chip shots Zealand to have

(01:21:15):
that fish species chat. So they've taken that classic visual
and turned it into trash species of Altoto and New Zealand.
So it's really like it's I think it's great because
it's very clear.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
People I've seen very clear. But yeah, it's very it's
very yeah, and you're totally right. So that just just
just to remind people, you know that the classic species
chart at the fish and chip shop. I think you
can get like cool ones now because you know how
it used to be like that. You always said, the
kind of grimy one at the fish and chip shop
that was all hair grease on it and that kind
of thing. Yeah, but you could look at it and

(01:21:49):
you'd be like, oh, there's an orange ruffy, there's a
John Dory, there's a snapper, there's a you know, and
this is it's a it's a reimagined one, but all
of the species are trash.

Speaker 8 (01:22:01):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 25 (01:22:02):
There's like a blue pod, which is kind of a
vap kind of container. There's smoky which is cigarette bats.
I mean that's kind of one of the main things.
I've actually been standing on the beach once and someone
thrown their cigarette just literally onto the onto the sand,
and I said, oh, sorry, you dropped this, But what.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
The what if?

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
They say, imagine doing that? Well, they should feel it's a.

Speaker 25 (01:22:32):
Cultural thing, like even with cigarette bats, right, It's almost
like I would say, probably most people who dropped cigarette bats,
for small percent who still smoke, they wouldn't drop any
other litter, you know. Thens are just a cultural thing
that we're exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:22:51):
The other one I love on that chat, I mean,
obviously I don't love this because it would be cool
of this chat didn't exist, we didn't have less of it.
The cord fish. I think it was a great results
made up of like tables and parts of you know,
fishing line and rope. That's something I find personally because
I live right by the ocean, a lot of that

(01:23:11):
I try to pick up, you know, at least whenever
you walk along along the ocean. I sometimes feel quite
guilty that I don't have time to do a beach
clean up every day, but I pick up at least
three it's usually five, a little bits of rubbish. And
it is quite surprising when I walk and i've you know,
I can see there's heaps of people have trodden. I

(01:23:32):
can see all the footprints that a lot of this
rubbish is just sitting there that you know, if every
one of those people would walk past had picked up,
you know, even just three or five pieces. Yeah, it's
really important. So I hope that this kind of visual
that the Saentel Coastlines have created, and I've got exhibitions
down at their space in Auckland at the moment, will

(01:23:52):
help people actually see this and go, oh my gosh,
Like it's not just the you know, fashion marine life
in our oceans. These things are just really really adding up,
you know, like they had. There's that the skull lollipops
that's one of my favorite names of one of the species,
and the trash species chat looks like a lollipop wrapper. Yeah,

(01:24:13):
and they've picked up since twenty eighteen, eighty three hundred
and one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Gosh, and these are plastic. Eight, Like, this is the
thing for it and so that it's not breaking down
in the ocean. You know, I'm not saying you should
be throwing away like a popsicle stick or something like
that that is wooden, but the plastic is a big
concern because it takes so long to degrade. And so
totally those lollipop sticks, there's eight hundred eight thousand, three
hundred six those are plastic. They're like the chubber chub

(01:24:40):
lollipop sticks, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:24:42):
And out of all of the litter that they collected,
so six hundred and twenty one thousand individual pieces they've
collected since twenty eighteen, seventy five percent of that is plastic,
like made up of plastic. Yeah, and obviously there's a
lot of you know, the Gusa fish on that chart
is the construction waste is a huge, huge issue. I think,

(01:25:03):
you know, there's this piece of really awesome visual charts
that you know will be around the place hopefully help
people realize, yeah, these these things we should obviously pick up.
You know, especially over summer we're spending a lot more
time at the beach. You just take a few pieces home,
you don't have to turn your whole holiday into the
beach green app that it does get fun personally, I

(01:25:26):
think so anyway, but also just stopping it from the
get go, you know, thinking do I need to get
a lollipops? Like is there another snack or treats that
I could bring my kids, you know, to the playground?
That how can I stop this from the source, you know,
how can I reduce my waist, to reduce my packaging,
maybe buy things more in bulk so there's less kind

(01:25:48):
of single use and just be really conscious of what
the little actions you can make so you don't add
to the trash species.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that is that is a vital message.
So just just to give our listeners a bit of
an idea of some of the other things on the
trash species. Power Raid is an power has a plastic
battle plastic bottle tops, which is I think one of
the most common found items and beaches. Right, so they
reckon they find one for every one thousand square meters
of coastline, they find eighteen plastic bottle tops. Oh that's crazy,

(01:26:22):
A that's crazy. Food wrappers are pretty high up there
as well. Like you say, the cigarette parts and filters
are a big issue as well. So how can people
go and see the poster and support this work?

Speaker 25 (01:26:37):
Okay, So finamalcoastlines dot org is that you can find poster.
You can even buy a poster you know, to have
your work or in your fish and chip shop in anywhere.
And yeah, you can go down and see what they have.
Be really involved. Again, all the information that Cinama coastlines
dot org very good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
We're going to put a copy of that poster up
on the website as well so people can go and
have a look at it. Oh, the heir's a classic.
The soy sauce things from sushi. Ah ah, there's a classic.

Speaker 25 (01:27:11):
Yeah, yeah, when are they going to stop being created?

Speaker 9 (01:27:13):
I know?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
I Hey, thank you so much. Kate appreciate it as always.
That is Kate Hall, our sustainability commentator. You can find
her on all of the social media platforms as well
by searching ethically Kate. Next up, our travel correspondent, is
taking us all to Sri Lanka sixteen past eleven on
News dogs 'b Travel.

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Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Newstorg's edb Well the Black Ferns have had a pretty
rough time of things as of late. They have had
a rough couple of couple of games against England and
the Northern Tour, and they've got one game left for
their season. That's against France this weekend in the final
of the tournament in Vancouver. So I think last week

(01:27:58):
they went down what forty nine thirty one against England,
nine tries they conceded, which was a record for the
Black Ferns. But anyway, it's their final final game of
this Vancouver competition and they're up against France, so a
lot of pressure on the Black Ferns and hey demand
That game's going on just after eleven o'clock tomorrow morning

(01:28:19):
in Vancouver, So we will catch up with Jason Pine
very shortly get his thoughts on the Blackfurns chances. Plus,
the All Whites are counting down to the next stage
of their World Cup qualification. The next Football World Cup
has a lot more teams than the last one. It
should theoretically mean that the All Whites have a slightly
easier time making the World Cup than they have in

(01:28:41):
previous tournaments. They've just faced off against Tahiti and they
look pretty comfortable against Tahiti. Actually, in fact, Chris Wood
lashed in some unmarked goals which were a Premier League striker.
It's not the sort of thing he gets to do
during his day job. So yeah, they're always looking relatively
strong for the time being. But they've got a couple
more games coming up this year, including on home soil.

(01:29:02):
As they count down for that to those or to
the next Stuff Football World Cup in twenty twenty six
and hopefully qualify. It would be wonderful for Chris Wood
to get one more crack at the World Cup before
he retires. Before midday on News Talks Hebb, we're going
to listen to Coldplay. They've got a new album called
Moon Music, plus the very latest from Paula Hawk and
she is the author of The Girl on the Train

(01:29:24):
alongside several other cracking books, so we're going to tell
you about that very shortly as well. Right now, it
is twenty one past eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Thank you very much for your feedback this morning. Shirley
has asked me about a TV show that we were
recommending this morning before eleven o'clock in our screen time segment, Jack,
where can you see the Bear? Okay, so, Surley, the
thing you have to understand is that, first of all,
I'm very behind the times, so when there's a new
show that everyone is talking about, it takes me at
least eighteen months to get there. But I have got there,

(01:30:03):
which is which is something I'm very glad about when
it comes to The Beer, because it is an extraordinary
TV show. It won a gazillion Emmys. It's one sort
of every every prize under the sun. The lead actor
is now a Kelvin Klein pin up boy heart throb,
So anyway, you can watch that on Disney Plus. At

(01:30:23):
the moment, I've only seen season two of The Bear.
There are three seasons, and the third season, which I
haven't seen yet, has had mixed reviews from fans and
critics alike. So i've season two was a work of
genius in my opinion sitly, but that's just my opinion.
I will reserve commenting on season three until I've had
an opportunity to see that. It's twenty four plast eleven
non news talks. He'd be after Midday today. Jason Pine

(01:30:45):
is in the hot seat for US with Weekendsport Calder
Piney calder Jack, the America's Cup finally underway, we've had
the Challenger series. But it's that weird kind of time.
I was saying, this is sad this morning, where we
are just waiting to see how we're actually going to
shape up with the Challenger.

Speaker 26 (01:31:01):
I think we're going to be okay, and that's really
based on nothing more than quite a bit of reading
done and people analyzing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
But really, you're right, Chack.

Speaker 26 (01:31:09):
It's not until I was gonna say the rubber hits
the road that's completely the wrong metaphor.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
It's not until the voats at the water.

Speaker 26 (01:31:15):
That we find out whether there's any race rust for
Emirates Team New Zealand, who haven't been on the water
competitively for about a month, against any Os Britanna, who
have basically been been going hard out for the last
month to win the Louis Vuitton. How will they match
up in terms of boat speed, in terms of the
way that they sell these boats and everything else, all
the million little details that go into it, we don't

(01:31:37):
really know. But Ray Davies, as the coach of Emirates
Team New Zealand, he's on the show just after midday,
so he'll give us some insight into what they've been
doing as they prepare to defend. But yeah, one o'clock
tomorrow morning, is I guess when we'll get our first
real indication.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Fantastic. Yeah, it is a kind of one of the
curious things about the way the competition is structured, right,
So from the perspective of the defender, they have the
benefit of seeing Britannia or any Us Britanna race for
the last month or so, so they they know full
well how well in Eus Pretanna is doing. But then

(01:32:10):
in the EUSt Pretanna has the benefit of being race
ready and experience, right, and so they might not know
with the same kind of detail how Emirates Team New
Zealand is shaping up. But they do know how to race,
and which of those two things is more important. I
don't think we know. I don't think we know.

Speaker 26 (01:32:25):
Is it better to be race hardened or is it
better to have the intel on your challenger that that
Emirates Team New Zealand do. I guess, as I say, Jack,
we'll find out in the early hours of tomorrow morning
for the first time. And then yeah, whoever gets to
seven race wins first gets the old mark.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Very good. So Ray Davis on the show, what else
you got for us this up?

Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
Yep?

Speaker 26 (01:32:41):
Indeed are the relevance of international rugby league. This has
been a big talking point in recent times. The NRL
just seems to monster rugby league and you know the key,
we seem to fight for relevance and amongst it all.
So Greg Peter's out of the New Zealand Rugby League
is going to chat to us about that. And after
two Chris wood Is on the show. Yeah, captain of
the All Whites come wait to have a chap to Chris?
What about their World Cup qualifying campaign? And of course

(01:33:03):
being one of the prettymier league's top strikers, don't get
them on the on the radio?

Speaker 8 (01:33:07):
Very open?

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Yeah, pretty yeah, that is pretty special. I'm really looking
forward to that. I mean, what did you make of
that pitch yesterday against it? Yeah, of all the pictures
I've seen, it was the most recent. Yes, that's a
that's a generous way of putting things that reminded me
of like my backyard.

Speaker 26 (01:33:22):
Yes, back home now though, so they get to play
the next two, well, they play Malaysia Friday night at Albany, sorry,
Monday night at Albany. And then next month both of
their World Cup qualifiers are back on home soil, so
I know they'll be looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
That, so you'll be pleased with me. I've got not
only do I have tickets for the November game in Auckland,
but I've also got tickets for next weekend.

Speaker 26 (01:33:44):
Wonderful, Yes, wonderful, Yeah, selling apparently going to sell out, Jack, Yes, yes,
I've heard this morning that that they are target They're
always targeting to sell out, but they are tracking towards
selling Mounts smart out for that first game a week today.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
That's amazing. Can't wait for that. Well, we'll have plenty
more to say about that next weekend, no doubt, but
very much looking forward to the show's afternoon, and of
course Emirate's team New Zealand in their first race just
after one o'clock tomorrow morning, New Zealand time. Thank you
very much, sir, Thanks Jack. It is amazing actually, how
much like Sabine Ainsley's fortune to have reversed something. You know,

(01:34:21):
it's extraordinary to think of where any Us Britannia were
just a few years ago competing in the last America's
Cup in Tarmachimikoto in Auckland, and they had all sorts
of issues, remember the boat was they had all sorts
of issues of the boat and went down and then
they needed repairs and all those kinds of things, and
it really you know, there was a debate over whether
they'd be good and low winds, and then oh no,
maybe they're actually rig their vessel to be better in

(01:34:43):
high winds, and then no, actually it was just a
total dog. But things have really turned around. Because pretend
you have looked pretty sleek on the water in the
coast off Barcelona ten past one tomorrow morning. That race
will be competed the first race of the America's Cup.
So of course we're going to keep you up to
speed with Team New Zealand's progress and we should get
a pretty good steer if that race goes to it

(01:35:05):
goes ahead. As to how emerates Team New Zealanders like
to likely to shape up in that in that contest,
it is just coming up to eleven thirty on news talks.
He'd be a travel correspondent. Mike Yardley has been having
a few issues, which is very unlike him given, and
it is remarkable really, given he travels the world constantly
that he's usually able to connect to us. So I

(01:35:26):
know we seem to have lost him. We tracked him down.
He's lost his phone some somehow this morning while he's
in the United States, but we managed to get him
on zoom. So we'll see if we can track him
down in a couple of minutes. It's just coming up
to eleven thirty on news Talk. Oh hew is here
we got have we got my gap?

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
There he is?

Speaker 11 (01:35:43):
Good morning, Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Oh sorry, don'tze, Yeah, no, I you go.

Speaker 11 (01:35:49):
I was just going to say, I know we're talking
to Sri Lanka. I'm actually in Disneyland and I did
a very stupid thing and I misplaced my phone an
hour ago, which is in the process of apparently being
dispatched to Lost and Found.

Speaker 5 (01:36:03):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
That is the worst feeling a losing your fire. I
suddenly realize how woefully dependent we are on these things. Well,
I'm glad that we've found a technical work around whether
you land, yes, but fair to say that, at least
for today, it's not the happiest place on earth for
you exactly. Yeah, Okay, Well, look we are talking Sri
Lanka this morning, and we loved your tips for Gaul

(01:36:26):
last week. But we're looking at some of the world
Heritage sites and wildlife in Sri Lanka. So let's start
off with some of the world heritage bits. Tell us
about Dam Buller.

Speaker 11 (01:36:36):
This is the most amazing place. Jackets the start of
what they call the Cultural Triangle, and this is an
area that encompasses all of Sri Lanka's greatest world heritage treasures.
So the dumb Buller Rock Temple. It has been a
Buddhist pilgrimage site for over two thousand years and it's
considered Sri Lanka's best preserved ancient edifice. It's this massive

(01:37:00):
cave temple complex which was carved by monks, and these
caves huddle under the vast overhanging rock and geniously they
carved a drip line into that rock so that their
interiors would stay bone dry. And oh my goodness, it's
like an ancient art gallery. These caves over one hundred

(01:37:21):
and fifty Bodis statues. There's a huge reclining bodder. There
was one cave jack I went into and the ceiling
is just covered in fifteen hundred border paintings may all
flawlessly follow the contours of the rock. It is absolutely enthralling.
An inster picnic.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Yeah, that sounds amazing. So tell us about Lion Rock.

Speaker 11 (01:37:44):
Yeah, this ancient rock kingdom was the shortest lived but
the most staggering of all of Sri Lanka's ancient capital.
So it's also known as Sigidia, but better known as
Lion Rock. And it's this massive towering monolith, a bit
like Oolarou, but higher, and it's got a flat top summit.
And this king called Kashi, he turned it into a

(01:38:07):
fortress kingdom about fifteen hundred years ago, and he decorated
the rock walls with frescoes, and he built a pleasure
palace on the summit that was only accessible through the
mouth of a massive carved lion. So I hauled my
way up the twelve hundred steps cut into the rock face,

(01:38:27):
and the steep start between a pair of lion paws
which have been carved into the base of the rock.
And at one time the stairs led through the open
mouth of this lion's head, crouching between the paws. It's
all very James Bond in a moodist sort of way.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Why was he considered a crazy king?

Speaker 11 (01:38:47):
Oh my goodness, mad as a hatter, a miglomaniac and paranoid.
He actually overthrew his father and buried his father alive
to assume the throne. I know, I mean, just she
very extreme. He apparently historians reckon he had fire one
hundred women up in his pleasure palace to pleasure him.

(01:39:10):
And you can see their bathing ponds down at the
base of the rock, because those bathing ponds are part
of what is considered Asia's oldest surviving landscaped gardens, so
they sort of just unfurl like a blanket from the
base of the rock. And another amazing feature, Jack, there
is this enormous boulder down in those gardens. This boulder,

(01:39:31):
I reckon, would be the size of a three or
four story high house, and it was cut in half horizontally,
the boulder so that it forms sort of like an
amphitheater for the king as an audience sort of hall.
But how did they do that cutting this boulder fifteen
hundred years ago? And that's the question that just keeps
needling it to as you go to line rock all

(01:39:53):
over it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
How did they do it amazing. And you checked out
another ancient capital, Mate.

Speaker 11 (01:39:59):
Yes, Pollon is she hod On? I'll get this right,
Polona Ruer And this was an ancient capital eight hundred
years ago before the power base shifted to Colombo. And
it's a bit like a mini ankor watch Jack. So
it's been liberated from the jungle and it just brims
with tombs and temples and statues and stupas. The centerpiece

(01:40:21):
is this flamboyant buttadage, which is a superbly decorated circular
stone shrine and there's this huge bodder statue at its heart.
It's just dropped dead gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Yeah, that sounds gorgeous. Sound sounds amazing. What about the primates?
Are they prolific in that part of the world.

Speaker 11 (01:40:41):
Well, as much as I enjoy admiring lost cities, Jack,
I was constantly distracted by the primates. So, if you're
up with your Disney knowledge, Polona Ruher was actually the
inspiration for Disney's Monkey Kingdom movie because it's considered the
best place in the country to get up close with

(01:41:01):
Sri Lanka's three diurnal primates. They've got the purple faced
leaf monkey, the Tokamakac and the absurdly delightful tufted gray Lingo.
I love those langers. They're all full of mischief and
they certainly know how to work a room.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Yeah, yeah, I love the monkeys there. They're amazing. Do
you have to watch your stuff? Do they get that close?

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Totally?

Speaker 11 (01:41:23):
Yeah, absolutely fearless.

Speaker 10 (01:41:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Yeah, You've got to be smart because they will. They're
always cunning, aren't they. They know how, Yeah, take advantage
of a distract good tourist.

Speaker 11 (01:41:31):
Yeah, like a gang of muggers.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Totally. So, speaking of wildlife, what national part would you
recommend for Safari?

Speaker 11 (01:41:38):
Yeah, it's a good question because there are quite a
few that are all well regarded. But my pick would
be uda Wa law because it's heaving with six hundred elephants.
And the interesting thing about the shri Lunkan elephant jack
is it's the biggest of all the Asian elephants. Yeah,
and they've got herds at uda Wa Lawie of fifty elephants,

(01:41:59):
you know, in one herd, So it is majesty ript large.
Fun facts. By the way, the average shri Lunkan elephant
guzzles down two hundred liters of water a day, isn't
it amazing? So after after a lot of trunk time,
we also swooned over mongooses and jackals and water monitors

(01:42:23):
who aren't monitoring the elephant's intake by the way, lots
of crops, sloth bears. We even drove over, most unfortunately
a six meter python.

Speaker 9 (01:42:34):
Oh no, oh, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:42:38):
The only disappointment jack, by the way, was the elusive leopard,
very well named in Sri Lanka because he did indeed
elude us Atalai. But apparently he's not so elusive that
at some of the other national parks, So I'll have
to go back for a second serving.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Yeah, indeed, Oh that sounds so good.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
We're going to put all of your tips for tripping
around Sri Lanka's World Heritage and Wildlife on the website.
So if they found your phone, if they traveled down.

Speaker 11 (01:43:02):
The Samsung Find your Phone service indicates it's still in Disneyland.
I've got a cast of Disney stars, all apparently ferreting
out of it's supposed geographic whereabouts.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Very good, Okay, well, good luck, good luck. Such a
pain in the butt, but we'll be thinking of you,
crossing our fingers and hope, the hoping that we can
call you this time next week. Thanks so much, Mike.
That's Mike Audley, our travel correspondent. Next up, the latest
book from the author of The Girl on the Train
twenty three to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with
Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and bepured on code
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Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
You're so good, Yes, scared.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Us Talks EDB with Jack Tame twenty to twelve. Katherin
Rains is our book reviewer. She has read a couple
of reads for us this weekend and to recommend. Hey, Catherine,
Morning Jack. So let's begin with the latest book from
Paula Hawkins, the author of The Girl on the Train
tell us about the Blue Hour.

Speaker 27 (01:44:15):
So this is a slow burn mystery thriller, and it's
set in this very isolated island off the coast of Scotland,
a place called Heiress, and it's only accessible during low
tide and this island Reare. It's remote and storm batted,
and that isolation and wilderness of the landscape really adds
to the whole a atmosphere of the book and the

(01:44:35):
island was inhabited by this famous former artist, a woman
called Vanessa Chapman, and after her death, she left her
works and her journals to a guy that was actually
really a former enemy of HER's, a guy called Douglas.
But her cheating husband has also disappeared about twenty years ago.
And then there's this executor of the will, a woman
called Grace, and she's not working particularly quickly to hand

(01:44:57):
over the Vanessa's estate, and she actually lives in Chapman's house,
and she's supposed to be sorting through these letters and
works to determine what's personal and stays and what's professional
and grea to this foundation that Vanessa had left the
rest of the works too. And then a bone is
found in one of her sculptures and it's revealed that
it could be human, and this revelation links those three

(01:45:18):
characters together, and so you get it told in the
present and flashback from two decades ago, so you get
the expert excerpts from her diaries, and this drama between
the characters slowly unrevels. And it's a thriller that doesn't
kind of, you know, wag you with twists and turns.
It just slowly reveals itself bit by bit, and there's
realistic characters in a tense, chilling atmosphere. Has a different

(01:45:40):
vibe to her most popular book, Girl on the Train,
but it's an excellent read all the same.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
Oh School, Okay, that's the Blueout by Paula Hawkins. You've
also read Unfiltered by Gantha Steiner.

Speaker 27 (01:45:49):
So. Gantha Steina is one of the stars of the
Netflix documentary Drive to Survive about if one, and he
was the team principal par has A head of the
twenty twenty four season, but actually he was let go
by gen has who's the guy that owns the team,
and so he's friend of the responsibilities and the constraints
that might use for an actual fact, he actually doesn't
do this, and he.

Speaker 10 (01:46:13):
Feels fear in.

Speaker 27 (01:46:14):
The way that he talks about hass you know, And
ultimately he was told that he wasn't required and actually
in the middle of an Italian supermarket at the deli counter.
So that's one way to find out you've got no job.
And it's got those highs and lows and experiences from
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty three, and probably the most
interesting part of It is the opening sections on how
Hass actually entered IF one, and so Steiner goes into

(01:46:37):
a lot of details about how, you know, he was
an ex Redville engineer and he managed to find himself
a billionaire to invest in this perspective IF one team,
which happened to be Gene Hass, and then he presented
it all to the I A and they entered eight
years ago, which is really interesting now when you look
at IF one and they really seem anti new operations
being part of the F one racing and so, yeah,

(01:47:00):
really interesting the way they talk about it, and he
talks about on track incidents and things about Miksho Schumacher
as well, and about Kevin Magnuson and those relationships and
that really kind of those relationships between himself and Gene
Hass and the frustration as the development tapes were turned
off and then has was wondering why the team was plummeting.
So that's really interesting and yeah, and Steiner has a

(01:47:23):
certain way with telling the story and recollections and opinions
and Heather be warned it contains prolific swearing. If you've
watched if you've watched Drive to Survive, you will know this.
But it's a good read, though, But I think that
there's probably a more interesting autobiography to come in the future,
which he keeps alluding to. But interesting if you want
a little bit more behind the scenes of Drive.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
To Survive, Okay, cool, it's unfiltered by Gunthera Steiner. He
is a real character. If Drive to Survive is anything
to go by, I beg you Catherine Catherine's first book,
The Blue Hour by Paula Hawkins. Coldplay has just released
their tenth album, Moon Music, right ahead of their new
Zealand tour. We're going to play you some of it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Next, giving you the inside scoop on All you Need
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Speaker 9 (01:48:09):
It'd be weather it words a mold, You've got a love,
weather it it remains, You've.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Got a.

Speaker 7 (01:48:35):
Love.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
This is Coldplay. That songs called All My Love. You
instantly recognize the voice of Chris Martin and it's false aid, No,
don't you. They've got a new album called Moon Music.
As Dale Clifford as our music reviewer, she's been listening.

Speaker 28 (01:48:51):
Hey, hello morning, it's an interesting place to come in
on that song there, because you'd probably think the whole
album is some sort of ballad man at his piano, yeah,
and the and there is definitely plenty of that in here,
but actually there's something so really big fat bass dance
along tracks. They've gone somewhere different a Coldplay like they've

(01:49:13):
gone into this space where the very synth or piano
lead and then orchestral, which the early days of Coldplayer
don't think with that. Maybe since the uncoupling, you know,
like there's been a transition and the type of music
and the messages I think that Chris Martin wants to
share and his music. So this is like a follow

(01:49:37):
up album because obviously all their songs so far in
the last couple of years have been you know, a
sky full of stars, very space atmosic, and so Moon
Music follows along that same kind of theme, right, the
two kind of go together, and it does have a
lot of that beautiful, eerie sort of stuff where it's
his voice over a piano or guitar and then suddenly

(01:49:59):
the strings come in and then the orchestra comes in,
and sometimes that quiet sort of sound and then other
times because actually there's been a critique for a song
called we Pray on this album, and a lot of
people are saying it's too much of a mishmash of
styles because suddenly.

Speaker 29 (01:50:16):
There's, like, like I said, fat bass, there's him singing.

Speaker 28 (01:50:19):
Beautifully, there's like some hip hop kind of fusion together,
and it probably shouldn't work. But for some reason, when
it's Chris Martin offering me that I'm okay with it.

Speaker 29 (01:50:30):
I don't know what it is. I'm like okay.

Speaker 28 (01:50:33):
And the overall arting theme of all of this music
is about sharing the love and being able to just
appreciate people's differences and love that. And I'm not going
to knock that message because I think there.

Speaker 29 (01:50:45):
Needs to be more of that in this world.

Speaker 28 (01:50:47):
There's some dark spaces, you know, so I think Chris
Martin is really trying to find that positive. It makes
me think that a lot of their live gigs there
will be glow sticks and will be swaying.

Speaker 10 (01:51:00):
You know, No they're not.

Speaker 29 (01:51:03):
Maybe that's what they've done.

Speaker 28 (01:51:04):
I actually I really want to go to the gig
with the Light Up Wristband, and I don't know, it
just sounds like a really beautiful festival all inclusive kind
of vibe, and so I think this is what this
music is about. Okay, there are some real dance along tracks.
You will wiggle along sometimes. I think there's been some great.

Speaker 29 (01:51:20):
Co lads of voices together.

Speaker 28 (01:51:23):
I think he is one of those artists that plenty
of people are quite happy to work with him, and
probably he is quite happy to work with other people too,
because it opens up the audience for Coldplay. And again,
the musicality is really nice. You look sort of atmospheric,
and then this musical stuff and orchestral stuff that comes in.
There's no rush in this album, right, Maybe that's a

(01:51:44):
really good thing for all of us too. It's good,
take your pace with it, and it's okay. Maybe even
part way through their next live set, we'll have all
all dropped.

Speaker 29 (01:51:53):
Down and do down with dog and have some yoga stretching.
Like I couldn't help but think that this morning when
I was listening to it.

Speaker 10 (01:51:58):
Well, so.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I'm like I was saying earlier, I just adore Coldplay's
first two probably three albums. I love the first two albums,
the third one I like a lot. Yeah, after that,
I mean, I don't have a problem with the kind
of stadium rock sound. Yeah, yeah, I don't like it
as much as I like their first albums.

Speaker 29 (01:52:19):
Well, I think that's the thing.

Speaker 10 (01:52:20):
It was.

Speaker 28 (01:52:21):
It was a guy and his guitar who could then
play a lot of other instruments, but it had that
more rock probably sound to it, and a little bit
more worldly and not just this kind of peace loving
tree hugging kind of Yeah. I mean they're very more
more synth pop I think now than they are probably
any sort of rock fusion. Yes, right, yeah, their element's
gone and so I guess that's the original stuff that

(01:52:43):
people really love them for.

Speaker 29 (01:52:45):
It's what got them on all the charts, right and
global recognition.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
Yes, yeah, Okay, this is just the evolution.

Speaker 28 (01:52:50):
I mean I wonder if they'll go back there at
some stage and go, we've done this peaceful vibe. Yeah
you can rock, you know, like yeah, yeah, like maybe
you can go back into a lot more of that
some loud guitar eh.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
And yeah, yeah, it's just a bit of it, just
a bit of a met Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:53:07):
It makes me think, how do they do this album live?
Because it is more of that sort of trippy, cool,
low key almost kind of sound. So maybe they just
have to fuse in the rock.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Yeah, why do Certainly there's certainly talented musicians, is no
doubt about it. I think I think he's classically trained from.

Speaker 28 (01:53:26):
That and you can tell, yeah when you hear all
the layering that they do, and in particular in this album,
it's actually very beautiful. So have a listen to some
of that stuff and appreciate the fact that I think
he's maybe showcasing some of the other side. But like
you say, for the last probably decade he's sat there,
so is there a return.

Speaker 29 (01:53:45):
And also of those other band members also going, hey,
let's be up the sound.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
Yeah right, okay for to give.

Speaker 29 (01:53:50):
It, it's an eight out of ten ten nice.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Yeah, it's going to be when they're in New Zealand.
Thank you so much. We'll have a couple of minutes
col catch you're so that is a stale Clifford our
music reviewer more cold Play for you will play one
of their good songs from the new album in a
few minutes eight to twelve.

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For everything from our show Newstalks dB dot coded inzed
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Pine is going to be behind the mic this afternoon

(01:54:38):
with the Weekends Sporting with us right after the twelve
o'clock news. Really looking forward to his interview with All
White Striker Chris Wood for now that we're going to
leave you with Coldplay ahead of the New Zealand tour.
They've just released a new album. The album is Moon Music,
not mood music, but is Moon Music. This song is
called I Turner. See you next week.

Speaker 20 (01:55:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
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