Full Show Podcast: 15 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Yard A, good morning, Welcome to news Talks V Jack
Taane with you in the hot seat through to midday today.
Before you ask, no, no, nope, nope, nope, no nope,
not yet. No baby, no baby just yet. But what
we are lacking in babies, I'm pleased for report we
are making up with fresh super rugby action. My goodness,

(01:06):
I feel kind of torn as a Crusaders fan because
last night was fantastic, wonderful game of rugby Crusaders Hurricanes.
Great to see the Crusaders get up, unless, of course,
you are familiar with Crusader's history and all the train
spots out there will know that for many of our
title winning seasons, the first game of the season the
Crusaders have actually lost, So I don't want to celebrate

(01:27):
it too hard at this stage. Anyway, we'll catch up
with our sport. I get his thoughts on the opening
for Super Rugby twenty twenty five very shortly as well
as that before ten o'clock, going to take Your Life
to meet Stock and our feature interview After ten o'clock
she is back in New Zealand. Something tells me she
won't be at meat Stock today, but it could be wrong.
Rachel Hunter is going to be with us. I cannot

(01:48):
wait for that right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Jack Team.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, I suppose it was inevitable that something would go wrong.
It wasn't like the new school lunch providers all had
the opportunity to ease into their work. You know, they
didn't do a huge practice run or slowly build up
capacity over time. For most of them, it was a
case of going from zero to one hundred day one

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of the school year, and they had to be zipping
along in fifth gear. And you know, all you needed
were a couple of photos of a few mishits word
of a few schools with missing lunches, and news spread
on social media in a way that blunders never would
have under the last school lunch regime. And don't mean

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it makes sense right I think about it. Last year,
all anyone, any parent, any educator, any school had to
compare school lunches to was the previous regime when schools
were provided with nothing. Now, well now there's a different precedent.
And if we're honest, you know, if we're totally honest,

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there is a bit of a political dimension at play somewhere,
isn't there. David Seymour is so attached to the school
lunch funding cuts, but he's all rising figure, especially in
educational communities, and just as he's happy to soak up
political support for being the guy making the funding cuts,

(03:16):
I'm sure there are more than a few educators out
there who are quietly willing David Seymour to fail. All
that being said, I don't think anyone who has seen
the kind of examples of some of the stodgy offerings
being sent out to schools or not being sent out
has has also been the case, could possibly argue with

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the young students who have reportedly been comparing their school
lunches with dog food. It's funny I was listening to
Newstalks He'd the other day when someone said that presentation
doesn't matter. It's simple the kids don't eat the meals.
When if it's simple, if the kids don't eat the meals,
then they really can't be that hungry. I mean, for

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anyone who's actually spent time around children, they'll know just
how naive and misguided that is. Sure, if we were
in the midst of a full blown famine, then you
might reasonably expect kids to eat any old slop. But
mercifully we are not in a famine, and actually, hungry
kids don't always act rationally. Most young children would prefer

(04:24):
to go without kai for an afternoon than be forced
to eat a tray of dog food. You probably would too.
Presentation matters. It's funny. I was discussing it with a
mate this week and he said the whole thing still
really annoys him because it should be parents responsibility to
feed their children, not the New Zealand taxpayer. Sure, I said, yeah,

(04:46):
in a perfect world, I totally agree. But unfortunately, in
case you haven't noticed, this, ain't it For whatever reason,
there are thousands and thousands of kids who, without school lunches,
would not be eating three square meals a day. Even
if you think it is all the parents' fault in
every single case, none of those can can choose their

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pearance any more than we choose ours. And here's the
thing I think risks being lost in this whole episode.
Full ballies aren't just good for the kids who would
otherwise be going without. They're good for all of us.
At a moment in time when our government is literally
soliciting for ideas to drive economic growth, there are few

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things that will drive our future productivity in this country
like better educational achievement. Kids who are hungry do not learn.
An investment in a full belly today is an investment
in growth in twenty years time. It's an investment in skills,
in businesses, in innovation. The new school lunch program is

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off to a lumpy start literally in many cases, and look,
teething issues were inevitable. I really hope it'll improve, but
I can tell you this much. For all the concern
over the state of the book, the savings made from
the school lunch program are worth nothing if the kids
don't eat. Jack Team two ninety two is our text number.

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If you want to see me a message this morning,
Jacket Newstalks, he'db dot co dot nz is the email address.
We've got your film picks before ten o'clock this morning.
And we have noticed a little bit of a theme
for a few films going around at the moment. Okay,
there's the one with Anne Hathaway, The Idea of You,
that is a film in which Anne Hathaway takes on
a much younger lover. There's that new one with Nicole

(06:39):
Kidman in which he's kind of doing the same thing.
And there's yet another film before ten o'clock. It's the
latest Bridget Jones, in which Bridget Jones, would you believe
falls for a younger man, a younger toy boy. So
that's at least three shows at the moment. I think
we can call that a trend, can't we. Kevin Milman
will be here next. I'm sure he's got thoughts on that.
Thirteen minutes past nine and I'm Jack Tayment Saturday Morning

(07:01):
in This is News Doalks.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
He'd be a little bit of way to kick off
your weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
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Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, I think you for your feedback this Morninglanda says
to me, Jack, explain to me how all these starving
children manage to survive six to eight weeks of school holidays. Jack,
you just sound soft. Lazy parents could make children at
lunch and not complain about it. But they don't, Jack,
what were the kids eating over the eight weeks of holiday?
Who knows what they were eating. Who knows if they
were hungry or not. One thing that wasn't happening over

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the holiday was they weren't being educated. The thing is
when kids are being educated, when they're sitting in classrooms,
they don't take information and they don't learn nearly as
well when they're hungry as they do when they're well fed.
And ultimately that's going to benefit all of us.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
We produce enough food in New Zealand to feed forty
million people. The hungry children aren't the problem. It's the
greed of the wealthy that cannot be satiated. Ninety two
ninety two. If you would like to send me a
message this morning, that is our text number. You can
email me as well. Of course, Kevin Milne is with
us this morning, Kelder Kevin.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Kurra And you asked, how do I feel about all
these movies where they are women are looking for younger men.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yes, one word nervous.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Oh come on, Kevin, you' and Lenda a rock solid,
rock solid.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
I'd like to think that it is.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Doesn't mean there's a little bit of a theme, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah? You know, yeah, oh, well fair enough.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
I mean I wonder what it is, because I wonder
if they all, you know, like, if there's kind of
crossover from the writing teams or something, you know. I
don't know anyway, certainly one that we've noticed. So we're
we're going to take take a closer look at the
new Bridget Jones film be fourteen o'clock this morning. But Kevin,
you're wanting to talk about childbirth yourself.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Yeah, well, I thought, given child birth that was on
your mind, Jack, i'd tell a story of one of
my own children's birth. It was the arrival of our
second child, Rory, at ParaPara Umu Hospital, one of those
gorgeous little maternity hospitals that no longer exists. The difficulty
of face with your second birth is what to do
with your first child. We decided to take him to

(09:14):
the hospital with us at about midnight, and while Linda
was given a bed to work through her labor, our
little Alex and I were given another bed to get
some sleeping. But three year old Alex had no interest
in sleeping. I chased them around the hospital rooms until
about three am, and then the night nurse came up

(09:35):
with an idea.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Kids who always fall asleep in cars.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
She said, why not tak him for a drive then
pop them back into the hospital bed once he's asleep.
So off we went in the car and Alex fell asleep.
We were driving past a closed service station on our
way back to the hospital when car put my dat's
in one twenty y broke down. I'm panicking, thinking I

(09:58):
may now miss the birth of child. A cop car
drives through the service station on a routine nighttime check.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I run over. Excuse me, my car's broken down. Any change?

Speaker 5 (10:09):
You could drive me a couple of keys back home
to pick up my wife's car.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Sure, they said.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Then they noticed they had a sleeping three year old
in the back of the car. Why have you got
a baby child in your car? Acter's hour of the night. Sorry,
we're just gonna have to make a few checks. I
suspect they thought this was a domestic incident and I
was on the run with my child. I explained, my
wife was on labor and if I didn't get back quickly,
I'd miss the birth of child. The cops were brilliant.

(10:37):
Strap the ladd into the back of our car, and
we'll get your home as quickly as possible.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
And it was quick.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
My little fellow had never felt speed like it, nor
had he ever felt more awake.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
It was his first trip in a police car.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
We picked up my wife's Morris eleven hundred, and I
was back in time to watch the glorious birth of
our second son, three year old Alex. Never slept a
wink all night. When I caught sight of him after
the birth, he was in the hospital kitchen enjoying bacon
and eggs with the night nurse. Wow, so these things happen,

(11:14):
Funny things happen. I've got an endless array of of
birth and I'm sure all our listeners have them too.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
The only things that happen, isn't that amazing? Like he
he will, you know, I'm sure he said at the time.
You know, even when said, oh my gosh, how do
you feel about having having a little sibling, and he
just said, oh, I got to go in a police cars.
Exactly why I got to go into a police car.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
It's a dramatic enough night as it is, but you
can only imagine how exciting. It must have been for him.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Ay, it's so funny, isn't it that because it was
such good advice. Yeah, yeah, because kids do full of
sleep in the car, and he did, they do. But yeah,
but then but then we then political really fast.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
To get my other car. It was just a funny night.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, it all turned out well.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, I'm glad things turned out well in the end.
But that is that is terribly exciting. My goodness, your
quarters old levels must have and somewhere else by the
end of all of that, Kevin, that's right, that's right, Yeah,
very good. All right, we'll catch you again very soon, Kevin.
Glad that I'm glad that you've noticed the theme as well.
But I don't think you need to be too nervous
about the older women choosing younger men, even if it's
Bridget Jones, Anne Hathaway and Nicole Kibman. It's quite the selection,

(12:26):
isn't it. He're all following this trend. We'll take a
look at that very shortly. Right now is twenty one
minutes past nine. Our sport Owen with his first thoughts
on Super Rugby twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Next, Getting your weekends started It's Saturday Morning with Jack
Team on News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Twenty four minutes past nine on News talks 'B. This
is why I love the station. This is why I
love this show. Dame Julie Chapman has just flicked as
a note chef kids can of course, who says Jack?
I can tell you listeners, and I think Julie would
have to be like the expert in New Zealand on
this front. I can tell you listeners what happens over
the holidays. The food in security and households becomes much
much worse. For example, we know that about one and

(13:08):
two pacifica about one and four Maldi kids experience are
regular food and security problems, so during the holidays the
issue is exacerbated. Many kids suffer extreme hunger during the holidays,
and teachers tell us that on the first day back
at school, kids are so hungry, sometimes just so glad
to be back because they can get access to food.
We need to remember it is not the child's fault,
no matter what kind of household they come from. Thank

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you very much for that. Ninety two. If you want
to send us a message this morning, twenty five minutes
past nine and time to catch up with our Sporto
Andrew Saville and Super Rugby got off to an absolute
cracking start for twenty twenty five the Hurricanes, Crusaders' old
rivals sav and Yeah, it was a game that just
felt like it went from end to end.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, good morning Jake here.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
It was a fantastic start of the season. Crusaders down
fourteen nil. They lost Scott Barrett early to the sinbin
and also Noah Hosom, the young All Blacks half back,
to an injury.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Nice at all.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Hold on a minute.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
This is not looking great for the Crusaders who are
trying to bounce back from that horror season of last year.
But they did very, very well. I thought Will Jordan
was outstanding. Scott Barrett when he got back on lead
from the front like he always does. Some of the
younger guys really put their hands up as well. With
Ethan Blackadder. Yet, hopefully his dessicated finger isn't too bad

(14:31):
and he's back on the field. He's had so many
injuries over the years. I hope he has a decent run.
But he played well. But I thought Will Jordan and
Jordan played quite a bit at ten. Yeah, coming in
at first receiver and really injected himself into the game.
And it goes to show Jack that last year when
they didn't have Will Jordan for the whole season, the
Crusaders really really struggle.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah with that without out and out attacks in the back.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
When he hits the line at pace, he's just so
good at timing his runs and they hold the pass
and then he just hits that line.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
Of and whether he's making a break and popping the ball,
whether he's whether he's making a clean break himself here.
So all all good fight back from the Crusaders. I
thought Patches the Hurricanes were very good as well.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Some new talent there. It's amazing, Jack, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
I think there's There were twenty five debutantes across the weekend,
fifty players out injured across the New Zealand teams. And
I often think as the years go by, when is
the production line going to run out? I think it's
slowing down. But from what I saw last night, it
certainly hasn't run out just yet. You look at Kyle

(15:37):
Preston for the Crusaders, had to come on for his
Super Rugby debut in about the sixth or seventh minute
for the Crusaders. Wellington MPC player came to life in
the NPC last year and that in that championship winning
team he goes and scores three tries on his debut
last night. Not that he was outstanding, Yeah, and is
not lost, No, it was amazing. And then the Highlanders, Yeah,

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poor old Highlanders one point. This would have been a
great woman behind this because the war Tars. Yes, the
Aussie teams have been fairly limited over the past few years,
but with the demise of the Rebels, that talent there
has been spread around and it was a Wallaby laden
Waratars team. But the Highlanders did everything to win bar

(16:24):
the last couple of minutes reserved prop scored a couple
of tries in the last ten as last try, being
the last player of the game.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
The worst suspicions of a little knock on wasn't checked.

Speaker 8 (16:35):
So poor old Highlanders will be on the plane back
to the South ruining a major lost opportunity, that's for sure.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Absolutely, So we've got Blues chiefs tonight. What are you
expecting done that?

Speaker 8 (16:47):
I think, look, my gut sort of gut sort of
saying the Blues. My head is saying gee, can they
repeat last year? It's going to take an almighty effort.
Bowden Barrett wasn't there for the championship run last year,
so that's a major positive for the Blues playing at
full back tonight, so I think the Blues hometown advantage.

(17:12):
But the Chiefs will be well and truly motivated, you know,
losing that final last year in Eden Park and getting
trounced in the final, really that will be big motivation
for them. They've got a lot of all Blacks, all
black quality players, and the Chiefs is three or four
of them on the bench easing them back in McKenzie's
at fullback. And I think the Chiefs from memory are

(17:34):
the least hampered by this onset of early injuries, so
I think it should be humbling of the game. What
I was the press was last night, Jack, was the
referees were speeding up play. They weren't allowing scrums.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
To be reset.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
They players hurried to the line out. It's now sixty
seconds for the conversion, and that all adds into a
quicker game.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
And I thought last night.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
The games were pretty much control well and we're played
at at a fast clip.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, no too right, So You've got preseason game tonight,
the Warriors taking on on Amill, the storm A and Hamilton.
So I've just had a TEXI I'm going to have
to double check this, but I'm going to read it
out for the time being because it sounds about right.
Eighteen thousand tickets sold already. That's amazing. If if that's
the case, it's so good. That's for amials and I think, yeah, yeah, okay,

(18:22):
I'm going to double check that before we go and
broadcasted any further. But yeah, so that's that's exciting. You've
got all kindf CE tonight playing as well, of course,
and the black Caps looking running it up Pakistan. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
Look, it's a warm up tray series, but to beat
Pakistan a couple of times in Karachi is no mean
feat pretty much full strength Pakistan my understanding. The bowlers
diod very very well again last night, the spin bowlers
and and pace including Willow Rat this new young fast bowler.

(18:56):
So look'll it'll build a lot of confidence in the
black Caps.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
It'll build momentum.

Speaker 8 (19:00):
At four or five days time, they played Pakistan again
in Karachi to open the the Champions Trophy, which is
the fifty over tournament. So there's nothing like momentum in sport,
and the black Cats have it.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, absolutely all right, sir, thank you very much. Enjoy
the sporting weekend and we will catch you very soon.
That's our sporto Andrew Saville. Now, before ten o'clock this morning,
we're going to take you to meat Stock, which is
an annual celebration of all things.

Speaker 9 (19:28):
Meet.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Our cook, Nicki Wicks is going to be there. She's
doing various demonstrations today, but she's got this delicious recipe.
It's like a marinade that you put on lamb and
it's quite It can be used for lots of different
cuts of lamb and lots of different situations with you
cooking on the barbecue, with your cooking inside and all
that sort of stuff. So she's going to give us that.
We could be before ten o'clock. Next up, though, we've
got your film picks for this weekend. It's just after
nine point thirty. I'm Jack Taman. This is news. Doorg's

(19:51):
he'd be.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Is the cord of.

Speaker 9 (19:58):
Thing, the news you seem to look behind. I can
keep you here.

Speaker 10 (20:05):
This like the.

Speaker 9 (20:10):
Perfect but that's call way.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
This is Olivia Dean that songs called It isn't perfect
but it might be. It's actually her new song for
the new Bridget Jones film. Francisca Rudkin is our film reviewers.
She's with us this morning, killed a good morning. I
have something very very embarrassing to admit to you this morning.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
You've never seen a Bridget Jones.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I've never seen a Bridget oh jack Ah, Yeah, I just,
I just, I mean you know that I'm bad with
seeing films. I still haven't seen The Godfather either, but yeah,
so I've never seen a Bridget Jones film. And I
had to google how many Bridget Jones films I've been
this morning, So you know, I'm just I want to
give you a sort of sense of how as to
how well I've kept.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Up with all of this.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
But there is a new Bridget Jones film out and
it's following well a bit of a what's become a
bit of a theme at the moment, women shacking up
with younger men. We've hand to col Kiman do it,
and Hathaway has done it. Now Bridget Oanes is doing
it too. Let's have a listen to Bridget Jones Mad
about the Boy.

Speaker 11 (21:11):
Bridget, You're a widow with two wonderful children live. Advice
to you is put your own oxygen mask on first.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
You just have to get late shouts is right, Oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
It's been four years.

Speaker 12 (21:23):
You're actively a nun.

Speaker 11 (21:27):
I've set you up on Tinder?

Speaker 9 (21:28):
What king now?

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Okay, that's Bridget Jones mad about the boy? Tell us
about at Francisca.

Speaker 7 (21:36):
So, as you've known, this is the fourth film and
apparently the final film in this series that began back
in two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
They always say that, they always say.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
That, I always say that rom com based on the
books by Helen Fielding and the Bridget films Jack, I've
always been about a woman who's trying to find her
a dream job or dream man, work on herself and
her self esteem and things. And over the years there's
been a lot of hilarity we have shared with Bridget,
and look, I would recommend going back and watching the
first film when she slides down a fire station pole

(22:05):
onto a tea camera. It was a laugh out loud,
absolutely hilarious moment, and I think that's what we love
about Bridget. This film, though, takes a little bit of
a turn. It is a rom com, but it is
also about grief. I found it a little bit old
fashioned and its approach in this sense that some of
the lines were a bit nafs, some of the jokes

(22:27):
a bit cringey. I think if you love Bridget you'll
find it quite sort of familiar and comforting. I didn't
really feel like we were stepping into a twenty twenty
five Bridget, but there is this shift. There is a
shift talking about grief. So there's everything you'd expect from
a rom com. There's the comical meat cutes, there's crazy
supportive friends, there's misunderstandings, jokes about internet dating, you know,

(22:51):
lovely scene set with falling snow and grand gestures and
embarrassing situations. So everything you expect from a rom COM's there.
But they sort of take a bit of a turn here,
and it's kind of appropriate because Bridget is in her
middle age, she's been laid, she's got a couple of kids,
and Colin Firth, who plays Mark Darcy, has passed away

(23:13):
and this has caused a little bit of drama for
a lot of people because he's a much loved character.
So it's really about her, four years later, coping with
his death and moving on with life and her friends
are like, come on, Bridget, you've got to get out
and get on with this. It does actually look I
actually kind of welled up in this film. It does
have an emotional kind of kick to it. It is

(23:35):
quite moving. But I wasn't laughing like I used to
at a Bridget Jones film, although I did take my
brother and he laughed quite a lot. So it's not
necessarily a girl's night out. You could probably go and
watch this, But what I'm trying to say is it
didn't have the hilarity. It didn't make me laugh quite
as much. I just thought it was a part of it,
just a little bit laugh But it does have this
kind of new angle, this really moving part. But I

(23:58):
tell you, Hugh Grant and Emma Thompson saved the day.
They both star in this and they're in it briefly,
but they are absolutely brilliant and they did bring a
smile to my face and I had giggle, so they
kind of.

Speaker 11 (24:07):
Saved the day.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, Okay, so that's Bridget Jones made about the boy.
What what do you think about this theme? At the moment,
We're not overstating it right. There seems to be a
bit of a at the moment women with the younger men.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Well, yeah, I mean, to be honest with there's not
a huge amount of films based on Three Happened, Yeah,
I know. And also Emma Thompson, how I just mentioned
a couple of years ago, was in another great film
called Good Luck to Julio Grand You're true, true, but
I tend to think, you know, you know, women do
date younger men, and that's absolutely fine, But.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
It just seems like there's a it's a it's a
sort of familiar narrative art at the moment.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
Maybe it's a.

Speaker 13 (24:48):
Little bit of a theme, but you know, maybe that's
just coming off the back of finally we're sort of
accepting that, you know, middle age actors and actresses and
lives can be just as interesting and complex and fascinating
as you know, a couple of young twenty year olds.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
For yeah, no, very good.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Okay, So let's bridget Jones man about the boy it's
showing in cinemas at the moment, also showing in cinemas
something completely different. Let's have a listened to September fifth.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Ready, camera one, got it.

Speaker 12 (25:17):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
I'm Jim McKay speaking to you live from the Olympics
in Munich, West Germany.

Speaker 12 (25:21):
So you want to bring in the Balatics? How about politics?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Spy mush, do you hear where I was going?

Speaker 12 (25:32):
Sharts?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
That is, of course the nineteen seventy two Munich Olympics,
synonymous with the hostage crisis involving the Israeli athletes tell
us about September five.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Yeah, So this is a really tense, well written, sharp
smart film. It's received an OSCAR nomination for Best Original
Screenplay in our cinemas at the moment, look at this
has been captured before on Film Munich, Steven Spielberg's film
and One Day in September, both, you know, both very
good films. This, though, was retold from the perspective of

(26:05):
the ABC, these sports crew who are in Munich to
broadcast the Olympics, who find themselves witnessing this terrible attack
and broadcasting it live, and the film doesn't take It's
not political statement actually, it's more a statement on the
voyeuristic nature of TV journalism and the difficulty of the

(26:26):
ethics involved in getting it right. So we're in a
world where there's no cell phones, using landlines and walkie talkies,
we're using. You know, you're shooting on film, which needs
to be developed. It's a very manual process putting this
to air live, so you have the challenges of getting
the right information out there and not putting out unchecked
statements that you know, they realize that this is the

(26:47):
first time something like this has happened and they are
being able to broadcast it live, but then they realize
the terrorists can also see this, and so they are
they're sort of directly influencing what's happened. So it sort
of takes a look at the difficulty of knowing how
to present information live and do it properly and do

(27:10):
it well without causing more harm and having those conversations
about hang on a minute, the parents of these you
know Israeli hostages are watching this live. You know, like
there was just all these thoughts and they're all things
which we think about today. You know, how often do
you hear the police say, hey, please do not put
up videos that you shot of a car accident as
you drive past it. We think, we're still thinking about

(27:32):
all these things today, but sort of within you know,
using different technology. But look, it's I thought it was
very very well put together, very tense, very much from that.
It's all coming to you from the control room of
this TV studio to an interesting new take on this
on this event.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Nice Okay, that's September five, that's also showing in cinemas.
Francisca's first film was, of course Jones Mad About the Boy,
and all the details for both those movies is on
the news Talk z'd B website. Thank you, Francisca. We
will catch you again next week after ten o'clock this
morning too. If you're feeling like, actually, uh, you can't
be bothered leaving the house this weekend, you're just going

(28:13):
to park up on the couch, not even going to
make it to the movies. We have three shows for
watching or streaming at home to recommend you in our
screen time segment, including this latest drama speaking of Colin
Firth starring Colin Firth called Lockerbye Or. It's a drama
about the lockerbe bombing and a man who basically worked
for years and years and years and years to try

(28:35):
and get some justice after the lockerbe bombing. So we'll
tell you a bit more about that after ten o'clock
this morning. Right now, it is seventeen minutes to ten.
We're off to meet stock next.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
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Speaker 3 (28:55):
Quarters to ten on News Talks EDB. Thank you so
much for all your messages. I've had heaps heaps of
emails and texts this morning, Dean says Jack. Good morning
on a beautiful Wellington day. Regarding the school lunch program,
the new program is actually doing pretty well when you
consider it effectively began at zero, so you have deliveries
on time in the ninety something percent within two weeks

(29:19):
of starting at just thirty seven point five percent of
the cost of the previous government scheme, with less wastage.
There's little doubt the current extreme criticism is largely politically motivated.
To listen to most commentators, you think the gold plated
labor scheme provided alacarte service to every kid who ate
everything they were served. Not even close to the case.
Now I agree with you on a lot of that, Dean,

(29:42):
I do. I think, yeah, there wasn't ever really criticism
of the old system when it came to the actual
service delivery, because anyone would be comparing that to what
was in place before, which was nothing right, So even
if lunch was late or whatever, they'd be like, well,
it's still better than what we had before this. So
I think there's probably a political dimension to that, and

(30:03):
I think if you look at the overall deliveries, yep,
overall deliveries have been on time, but clearly there have
been some pretty stodgy offerings out there and perhaps some
providers who haven't done the best job so far. My
overall point is that if we don't get this right,
the savings that have been made will be worth nothing,

(30:24):
because honestly, getting kids with full bellies is one of
the top things we can do to drive productivity in
the future. So thank you for that. Ninety two to
ninety two. If you want to send us a message
this morning, Jacket Newstalks hedb dot co dot Nz. Time
to catch up with our cook, Nikki Wicks. Who's with
us this morning, Kilda?

Speaker 14 (30:41):
Yeah, good morning, Jack.

Speaker 15 (30:42):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
I'm very well? Thank you?

Speaker 9 (30:44):
You are?

Speaker 3 (30:45):
You are at an almighty celebration, an unrivaled celebration. Today.
You are at meat stock.

Speaker 15 (30:52):
I'm at meat stock.

Speaker 16 (30:55):
More of them.

Speaker 14 (30:56):
I'm probably, be honest, more of a Woodstock girl, but
I am at meat Stock. It's a huge celebration that
they have. This is the second year in New Zealand
down and Mystery Creek down here by Hamilton, and huge
celebration of barbecue culture, live music, butchery schools, a whole lot,
and it's hilarious because there's all these pit masters. But

(31:16):
I'm actually down here with a crew from cross Ray Barbecues,
which are infrared gas bed bar and so it's kind
of I wouldn't say I'm a pariah there. That would
be too strong, but I've got all of these sort
of big boys who are throwing you know, all sorts
of things.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
On their on the fire.

Speaker 14 (31:36):
I'm popping on the gas.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, I tell you what.

Speaker 14 (31:39):
They were very impressed with myself, my chocolate self sourcing
thing that I cracked out yesterday.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
So just odd of interest. Well what what like because obviously,
like you know, barbecuing and pit culture is going through
a bit of a period at the moment. But you know,
there's all sorts of different gadgets and things you can buy,
but what doesn't infrared barbecue allow you to do?

Speaker 14 (32:02):
Well, it's amazing. It's what it is is it's great
for the environment because that uses it is by LPG,
so it's sad by LPG. But it heats up these
ceramic plates then push out this infrared heat, so it's
intense heat. And I mean it's extraordinary. I used it
yesterday as a pizza oven as well, and so and

(32:24):
it takes less time to you know, to heat up
and uses about fifty percent less LPG. Really great, so
I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, so how hot would you how hot would it get?

Speaker 14 (32:35):
Oh three fifteen?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Oh wow? Okay, yeah, I struggle to get my barbecue
over about two hundred degrees?

Speaker 17 (32:41):
Oh no.

Speaker 14 (32:41):
And it's such a shame to thing. You have to
have a pizza oven as well.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 14 (32:46):
Know, I really enjoyed. It becomes my total outdoor kitchen
during summer.

Speaker 10 (32:50):
So I'm loving it.

Speaker 14 (32:51):
It's actually great, it's fantastic.

Speaker 10 (32:53):
It's good festival.

Speaker 14 (32:53):
So today I will be slinging quite a lot of
sort of beautiful pork with crackling and rotisserie chickens and
all that sort of thing, as well as my Black
Green Shop at self sourcing pudding. But I'll also be
using lamb today because today is New Zealand's National Lamb
Day of February every.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Year that does that deliberately coincide with meat stock.

Speaker 14 (33:17):
I don't know if it does or not.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm sure someone in the meat community will be able
to come back to us on that.

Speaker 14 (33:23):
I love someone today, but I love it. It nights
the anniversary of the first frozen lamb shipment that took
off from Port Charmers to London in eighteen eighty two,
and that really changed things for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yet transformed our economy. Yeah, totally absolutely transformed New Zealand's history.

Speaker 14 (33:44):
Really actually, just as we said that, it gave me,
gave me shivers because it really did. You know, our
lamb could then get to the rest of the world
just by technology catching up and being able to send
off frozen lamb. So look, I've got a beautiful, beautiful recipe.
This is off so good. So look you could use
What I love about this is it's really about the marinade.
And you can use any cut of land you like.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
You could use lam m.

Speaker 14 (34:06):
Steak, loin chops, shoulder chops probably maybe on a slower cock.
And also you could use a butterflied leg of lamb,
which I just adore. You can get your butcher a
bone that that out for you if you just take
that bone out and you've got this beautiful leg of
lamb that takes half the time to cook. Here's the marinade.
It's last quince season, Jack. I discovered that quince and

(34:30):
lamb are really good, mate. So my marinate has got
a huge, big dollop of quince paste in it.

Speaker 15 (34:38):
Now.

Speaker 14 (34:38):
Look, if you can't find that, I'm telling you apricot
jam will work just as well. It's got this sort
of tartness and the sweetness that you need. But quince
paste beautiful. A big large tablespoone maybe even two of
store bought HORRIFICA harriss is that beautiful spicy spicy spice
makes from that's made into a paste from Middle East

(35:02):
regions really and it's absolutely beautiful. Four clives of garlic.
You could crush those or I actually grape them on
a little microplane. Saves you're peeling it because the peel
sort of gets left in your hands and you can
just grape the flesh of the garlic in there. One
read onion finally dies that two tablespoons of vinegar. So
here we've got something to offset that sweetness, also help

(35:23):
to break down the lamb and the marinating. You could
use lemon juice for that. That's fine. Two tablespoons of
olive oil, nice big teaspoon of sea salt in there,
and just mix all of that together and you've got
this beautiful, vibrant looking sort of orange marinaate and then
smother your lamb whatever cut you're using with that. Leave

(35:43):
it over night if you can. I always read that
in recipe, so Jack and I'm sort of fifteen minutes
before I want to cook it. You can also just
marinate for fifteen minutes heat, have a barbecue hot plate
to about medium, throw your lamb on that, baste it
with any excess marinate as it cooks. There's a lot

(36:04):
of sugar in the marinate, so we'll have a tendants
to have a little bit of charring in places, which
I don't mind, and just cook that. What even whatever
your lamb is, it's going to time. I'm not going
to give you a cooking time here because it will
depend on what cut you're using, but you'll just find
this spicy and beautiful and so five minutes before you
think your lamb is ready, give it that final base

(36:26):
which will be just enough to cook that marinade and
it goes all jammy. Serve it with a beautiful big salad,
maybe some couscous, maybe a scatter of coriander splashyr yogat
on there. Honestly, it's absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
It sounds superb sounds absolutely delicious. Yeah, okay, there's definitely
one for me. Thank you so much, and have a
wonderful time with all of all of your mates at
meat Stock, won't you.

Speaker 16 (36:50):
I will.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
We'll catch it you next week, Nicky, thank you. We'll
make sure that marinade recipe is up and available on
the newstalks. He'd be website as well. You know where
to go Newstalks. He'db dot co dot nz forward slash Jack.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to know.
Mornings with Jack team and bepewre dot co dot nzet
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Speaker 3 (37:13):
Feel like I'm missing out a little bit by not
being at meat Stock this weekend because the barbecues and
stuff are really going through a moment. My brother in
law got one of those new like the palette fired
ones and it's all like Wi Fi and abled and
there's an app and all the sort of things so
you can and like he's he cooks meat in there
for like fourteen hours. It's delicious, like absolutely amazing that

(37:33):
this thing, you know, looks like it should be attached
to the International Space Station. And I know that he's
not the only one who's getting into it. Paul has
flipped me a note to say he went to meet
Stock yesterday. A great fun of the sun bears and
lots of and this is a direct quote made from Paul,
So thank you for that. Ninety two ninety two. If
you want to send us a message on Newstalks, he'd
be this morning. It's a big weekend actually with all

(37:53):
the sporting action as well, Super Rugby Warriors with their
preseason stuff, A League games as well as well as that.
You've got the Red Ball Trolley Grand Prix kicking off
today in Auckland. I think it's the tenth year they've
been running that. In domain. It's always so much fun,
even if you can't go along, just seeing the highlights
some of the creations that people make in their in
their you know, backyard backyard go karts and trolley's usually

(38:21):
ends and up ends up with a few scraped elbows
and things as well, but it should be plenty of fun.
So that's kicking off I think just after midday in
Auckland's domain. If you are in the nine after ten
o'clock on News Talk's EDB, we've got your screen time
picks for this weekend, plus our feature interview years back
in the country for a short window, so we're making
sure we grab her while she's here. Keiwi model, actor, businesswoman,

(38:44):
TV presenter Rachel Hunter with us right after the ten
o'clock news. It's almost ten though, I'm Jack tayme. This
is News Talk's EDB.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
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Speaker 12 (39:17):
Come.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
A girl's in your yoda, Good morning and welcome to
news Talks. He'd be Jack taying with you through the
midday Today. Saturdays are for sun snacks and supermodels. Lucky
for us, Kiwi icon Rachel Hunter is back in Old
tiot Or at the moment, and she's with us this morning, Calda,
good morning, welcome home and welcome to the show.

Speaker 11 (39:38):
You gotta Jack.

Speaker 9 (39:38):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I'm very very good, thank you. How how often are
you back these days you have? How do you do
the time split?

Speaker 14 (39:47):
All right?

Speaker 11 (39:47):
Very good?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yes.

Speaker 18 (39:50):
I actually usually come at the end like around well,
not the end, around September October for about six weeks
and then January through you know, March ish around that
time as well, So at least like three months a
year I come down here.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Oh that's pretty good. And so the rest of your time,
and excuse me for if I get the strong it's
like you've got time in La and in India as well.

Speaker 11 (40:14):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 18 (40:16):
So I go back and do the retreats in India
and Bali and other places, and then I also obviously
go back to LA and also London because that's where
Renee is. So I kind of move around in that way,
which I'm very lucky. But yeah, it's it's kind of
the flow right now.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Do you feel like you see New Zealand change?

Speaker 16 (40:38):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (40:39):
Look, I think everything changes, right. But it's funny because
I think about this and you know, you see, you know,
there's fundamentally there's like you know, the things that you.

Speaker 11 (40:50):
Eat, the you know, the dairies, you know, the.

Speaker 18 (40:54):
Beaches, the places, especially during summertime obviously when you do.
Everyone goes off on the on their breaks during summertime,
and you can't help but be pulled to memories of
your child hood. And as much as yeah, we keep
we're going to keep evolving, the whole world's and evolving
in some type of way, you know, it's it's still

(41:15):
the memories of how how you spend your time with
your family and your friends. That's ultimately what it is.
And yeah, I mean skylines changed. I mean so is
the rest of the world. But I think fundamentally we
really when we come back to our home land, you
can't help but provoke those really amazing times growing up.

Speaker 12 (41:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah, there's like an element of nostalgia and there's something
wonderful about that when you've been away you come home
and you're like, oh, my goodness. I never appreciated this
properly when I you know, when I was younger or
when I was living here. It's so true, this sort
of funny dynamic at the moment with New Zealand. And
I'll be interested on your perspective as someone who is
fortunate to travel a lot. A lot of people feel

(41:59):
like we are in a real funk at the moment,
Like we're in not like a depression as such, but
we're in a really kind of you know, tricky little period.

Speaker 18 (42:07):
What is my senses is everybody watching the same news
as well? I'm watching because I think it's a broadant situation.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Isn't it like one? You think it's like a global thing?

Speaker 18 (42:18):
You I would think so when you like, I mean,
it's it's interesting. But I think, you know, look, everyone
ebbs and flows, like our careers flow, our life does.
We get changes, we get things that come in and
disrupt us and we're like, wow, this is amazing, and
you know, so it.

Speaker 11 (42:38):
Just it fluctuates.

Speaker 18 (42:40):
So how do we how do we, in our best
possible way move through that in more of a positive way.
Yes we can, you know, get you know, disgruntled and
things are hard and things just aren't.

Speaker 11 (42:52):
Fair sometimes that's just the bottom line.

Speaker 18 (42:55):
But I think, you know, and that's okay too, But
I think fundaments like how are we going to shift that?
But at the same time, yeah, you're you're going to say, oh,
this isn't going right and this isn't going like yah
yeah yan, yeah, Like who wants to sit next.

Speaker 11 (43:08):
To that all day long?

Speaker 18 (43:09):
Like look at where we live, like, look at where
people live here? You know, so I don't know. Yeah,
to me, I think it's you know, I don't know.
I don't want to spread that to every country, but
I think it's hard everywhere.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Because look at the jobs.

Speaker 11 (43:26):
Look at what is a job?

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Now?

Speaker 18 (43:28):
You know how it's yeah, I mean we could really
go down a rabbit hole here, Jack.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Like please please, I'm already no.

Speaker 11 (43:37):
No, no, no, I'm not going down.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I'm not going to get you in trouble, I promise,
I promise you.

Speaker 11 (43:40):
No, I don't mind being in trouble.

Speaker 19 (43:42):
I always like to be a little bit rebellious.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
So it's all good. See you've taken kind of you've
got quite a spiritual bent on that, like in being
positive and you're kind of positive outlook when you can
not an annoying positive no, not like.

Speaker 18 (43:58):
Peace, love and happiness and nothing L like like I
don't mean that, I mean like we sometimes things are
not fair.

Speaker 11 (44:05):
Absolutely yeah, but yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
How important is your kind of spiritual practice? And you
know you're leading of retreats? How important is that side
of your life to your everyday existence?

Speaker 18 (44:18):
Now, well, I think there's an integ integration about it
because I think, you know, there's that very human side
that we have to get particular things that we move
through in life that are just fundamentally human. And it
seems to be my word on this radio show right now.
It's fundamentally But you know, we definitely we go to

(44:38):
the bathroom.

Speaker 11 (44:39):
We have to work, we have to pay bills, we
have to do these things.

Speaker 18 (44:42):
But I think where we sometimes where that connection is
of where do we find that stability where we can
like enjoy our life, enjoy our friends, enjoy our own
our own state of peace and well being, you know,
And so what is that and how do we move

(45:03):
into that At times when things just seem a little
bit afraid, we need to kind of come home to
that place within our salves to feel that stability. And
I think from there then you can see things a
little bit. But at the same time, again, you know,
I get ruffled and my mind works, you know, fast,

(45:23):
and it's busy and all the rest of it. And
I think, you know, doing this and having gone through
this with as teacher trainings such as and yoga when
I did it back in twenty seventeen. It's kind of
allowed me to find that place where I can kind
of harness all that energy more so and bring it
inward to be able to be more stable. So, I mean,

(45:45):
people can call it spiritual or they can call it energy,
you know, so it's like, how are you maintaining that
energy that sometimes feels fraid at times? So I think
the two combine, you know, whether we call it religion, spirituality, energy,
it's just kind of refining more of finding a stable
place for ourselves. So that's kind of what I aspire to.

Speaker 12 (46:07):
Really.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah, well, excuse my profound naivety on this front, because
I'll probably just say something I'm you know, put my
foot in it totally here because I'm just totally not
naive about the stuff. But I am curious, right, So, so, like,
do you see spirituality and religiosity by being religious? Do
you see yourself as being both of those or do

(46:31):
you separate the spirituality from the kind of you know,
being led by different energies. Can you kind of distinguish
those things for me? M?

Speaker 18 (46:42):
Well, I mean, obviously it's always changing, So what I
might say here now might change next week or next
year or whatever.

Speaker 11 (46:49):
Right, So as always, we're.

Speaker 18 (46:50):
Always changing our opinions and our viewpoints depending on our
experience that we're having, whatever we're doing. But you know,
I was brought up in a very not very religious
My mum was very psychic, and so this none of
the stuff is kind of new to me. So we
were you know, Christian. We went an investigated Mormon, Buddhism,

(47:12):
like all this kind of stuff. So we did have
that growing up. You know, I think it's just you know,
there I would say that, you know, the spiritual side
of it or the religion side, there's that all that
murky water, And I don't want to say anyone's or
put a framework around it, because it's whatever you're drawn

(47:32):
to in some ways, because you can look at spirituality
in some ways as energy too, you know, I mean,
because there's an energy. I mean we're looking at scientists
now seeing some of this stuff as far as meditation
is concerned, and people would class that spiritual, correct, right
would you?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (47:50):
So, but you're seeing spirituality and meditation is really just
creating a sense of stability. So I don't I want
to leave people to their own experience rather than getting
me into mine, because then it gives you know, people
have to investigate themselves and draw their opinion off that.

(48:11):
But I like the freedom to move around because I
do love looking at religions and fascinated by them, and
at the same time I'm interested in the spirituality and
the energy. So I think there is a difference as such.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Yeah, what do you love about India?

Speaker 18 (48:29):
It's just you get in there and you just get
lost in this immense, sensorary place of.

Speaker 9 (48:42):
Just life.

Speaker 18 (48:44):
You're immediately pushed into an incredible sense of life and
movement and colors and smells and people and going on
the side of the street and drinking chai and having
the most amazing conversation with who you know you sit
down on the side.

Speaker 11 (49:00):
It's just it just has that where you just drop.

Speaker 18 (49:05):
Away almost from all what you think and it just
takes you on this ride. So I think it just
takes all that kind of ego away from you and
you just you just yeah, you just go in there
and just get taken away. You know, it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Do you how much time do you spend there, like
in a normal year these days.

Speaker 18 (49:27):
Around about like just under six months, just going in
and out just with the as far as doing the retreats.
Obviously you're not going in and out all the time
because I mean that becomes quite well, it's expensive now
with flying.

Speaker 11 (49:39):
But yeah, so I kind of stay put for a
little bit.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Do you ever find it like overwhelming?

Speaker 18 (49:48):
Yeah, but that kind of creates like that time where
you kind of can change, you know, where things can
get a little bit like, oh God, this is happening
or that's happening. But no, I love it. I love it.
I love watching and being involved in war kind loving people.

Speaker 11 (50:08):
Yeah, it's it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
I think the intensity of the sensory experiences like that, it's.

Speaker 18 (50:19):
Yeah, just explodes and it takes your any ideas or
ignorance you have just get beautifully transformed in some kind
of wham whatever that is, whether you come out of
India with whatever has happened, whatever, it just is a
transformational experience.

Speaker 11 (50:35):
I mean that's for me.

Speaker 18 (50:36):
Other people might go to Italy and have wine and
cheese and enjoy the coast, or go to Morocco or
go anywhere else in the world and have that same experience.

Speaker 11 (50:45):
But this is just mine.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah, I'm just going to take all of the above
for that. Yeah, yeah, no, it's it is a really
special place. Hey, you've become a grandma, right I have.
How's life is a grandma?

Speaker 18 (50:58):
Oh it's so sweet. He calls me, Louis calls me Rarah.
They're about to have another baby very soon. But he's
just gorgeous. And I just had Christmas with them this
last Christmas. Yeah, he's he's very very there's such incredible
appearance too.

Speaker 11 (51:15):
They're really amazing parents house people.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Congratulations. Well look you are you are doing something a
little bit off off the beach. You're teaming up with
Uber eats. So what's the deal. Explain it to us.

Speaker 18 (51:27):
Oh, it's just you know, I did the TV commercial
a few years ago and they're doing a new PR campaign.
Obviously worth going down to the beach and you can
get anything ordered from sunscreen to ice blocks, so you know, Auckland, Wellington,
christ Church and some of the other coastal beaches you
can order Uber eats down to the beach, so if

(51:48):
you've forgotten anything, you can just direct it straight to
your beach towel. So yeah, so it's just a it's
just a nice I don't know, I find them really
really easy to work with. Very yeah, and it's I mean,
who doesn't order Uber eats right.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
And at the beach, I mean, if you can make
any of the experience at the beach even more convenient
than hey, I think we're all here for that.

Speaker 11 (52:11):
Yes, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Well, look, it is so good to have you home.
Thank you so much for giving us your time.

Speaker 18 (52:18):
Next time, I'd love to come in and we can
have a longer chat about those things I did.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, you, I do.

Speaker 18 (52:24):
Have Human Spirit on there with I just started a
new podcast called Human Spirit with Rachel Hunter and it
starts next Thursday, on the twentieth, and we have some
great New Zealand guests and stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
So yeah, human okay, yeah, well we'll find we'll put
the details for that up on our website as well,
because I know a lot of people will be really
thank you. Yeah, and thank you, thank you for helping
to educate me. I feel fundamentally. No, No, that was
the key word for today. It's the key word for today. No,
I'm just I'm aware that there are some some some enormous,

(53:00):
many enormous holes in my in my knowledge and wisdom
about certain subjects. So what you class says it.

Speaker 18 (53:06):
By the way, what are you class between religion, spirituality
and energies as such?

Speaker 9 (53:12):
Wow?

Speaker 11 (53:12):
Your opinion?

Speaker 3 (53:13):
I mean I just you know, see I I didn't
have a upbringing. No I tried meditating, but then see
I'm just like the opposite because I'm all about like
optimizing time and things like that, which is not so.
I think I would really benefit from from meditating and
really benefit from more of a spiritual life, but I
just haven't kind of made my way in there yet.

(53:35):
So this is this is maybe maybe it's a project
for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 18 (53:38):
You know, well, next time I come back and to
a meditation class, you can come along and we'll sit
down see if we can have a little that we
can You can come in and have a little meditation session.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Yeah, there would be amazing people, I mean not just
everyone sees it's you know who can can They say
it's incredible for you, it's such a beneficial experience. So yeah, yeah,
I'm open mind. Yeah yeah, yes, right, thank you so much. Yeah,
love you to check and enjoy the rest of your
time here to see you soon. That is the one

(54:09):
and only I think we can use this term. We
can definitely use this term.

Speaker 10 (54:12):
Key.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
We icon Rachel Hunter with us this morning before eleven
o'clock on Newstalks EDB. We're in the garden. We've got
your wine picked for this week, and I'm going to
tell you about my Valentine's Day disaster very soon. Next
up your TV show pick weeks, your TV show picks
for this week, and our screen Time segment. Three fantastic
shows to tell you about. Right now, it's twenty two
minutes past ten.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack,
Tame and vpew it dot code on inzad for high
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Speaker 3 (54:41):
US Talks EDB twenty five ten on News Talks EDB.
Tara Awards our screen Time Expert screen Time Time for
your Saturday Hey Tara, Oh hello Tara.

Speaker 11 (54:53):
Good morning Jack.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
You've got three shows for us this morning. Let's start
off with the new one starr In Colin Furss on
TV and z Plus TV and ZED one from tomorrow.
Tell us about Lockerbe's search for a truth.

Speaker 20 (55:06):
This is a new British drama about the Lockerby Plain
disaster in December nineteen eighty eight, when a Plan AM
flight from London to New York exploded media over the
small Scottish town of Lockerby, and as you say, It
stars Colin Firth who plays the real life father of
one of the passengers who died. He plays Dr Jim Swire,
who was an English GP and when his daughter Flora

(55:29):
was killed, Jim became obsessed with finding out what really
happened and spent the next few decades teaming up with
journalists and lobby and governments. And he was unrelenting and
persistent about uncovering the truth about who was responsible for
the bombing and went to some extraordinary lengths to get
those answers. And the drama captures all those details.

Speaker 7 (55:50):
It's a pretty.

Speaker 20 (55:50):
Extraordinary story, and it's told from Jim Swire's perspective, so
it's inspired by his own research. Colin Firth is very
good in this as the grieving father who just becomes
obsessed with getting justice. If the story does interest you,
there's also a good documentary series on Netflix called on
Neon called Lockerbe that features the real Jim Swire, which

(56:12):
will give you a bit more real life background.

Speaker 9 (56:14):
But the drama.

Speaker 20 (56:15):
Itself is a very compelling story that gives a human
insight into what is a really terrible tragedy.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Yeah, yeah, this sounds really interesting. Okay, lockerbe Search for Truth.
So that's on TVNZ one tomorrow and on TVNZ plus
of course on Netflix. You've seen Friends Like Her?

Speaker 12 (56:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (56:33):
Friends Like Her is a new Zealand drama that came
out early last year on three, but it's just shifted
over to Netflix and is getting a brand new audience
both here and in Australia, which is why I wanted
to mention it again today because it's such a great
local drama and if you missed it the first time
around on Three, it's definitely worth catching on Netflix. This
is written by novelist Sarah Kate Lynch. It's a family

(56:55):
drama that turns into a thriller as it goes along,
and it's set in Kaikulda after the twenty sixteen earthquake.
It stars MORGANA O'Reilly and Tess Halbrick. They play sisters
in law Nicole and Tests, and when the show begins,
Nicole is having a surrogate pregnancy for Tests, but the
agreement between them goes wrong. Nicole wants to keep the

(57:16):
baby and it destroys the family and they have this
secret in their past, these two women that they're both
desperate to keep hidden. But things start to snowball and
the secrets start to rise to the surface.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
And it's all.

Speaker 20 (57:29):
Taking place in a community that has been damaged and
fractured physically and emotionally by the earthquake. And the show
really captures that feeling of small town New Zealand where everyone.

Speaker 12 (57:41):
Knows everyone else's business.

Speaker 20 (57:42):
It's just a show with great performances, well written, fantastic cast.
You know, it's a whole package. And I'm so pleased
that it's getting out to a new audience on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
So so good. Oh, it's really good to see it
up there. I thank you that friends like her on
Netflix and on Disney Plus High Potential.

Speaker 20 (58:00):
Yeah, this is a new American crime drama. And if
you're a fan of shows like Monk or I think
you're like this as well. It's a classic fish out
of water story and it's about a single mother called
Morgan who is raising three children. She works at night
as a cleaner at the local police station, and she
has this amazing brain, which means she processes information differently

(58:23):
and sees things that other people don't. And she starts
to solve these crimes in the office at night, much
to the annoyance of their detectives, and Morgan is so
good at it that they reluctantly have to start bringing
her in on their tricky cases, except that you know,
she's not a trained detective. She's a straight shooting, fast
talking heart of gold, single mum who doesn't really follow

(58:46):
the rules, which leads to.

Speaker 11 (58:47):
A lot of chaos.

Speaker 20 (58:49):
It is all a bit ridiculous, but I also thought
it was a bit of fun that you shouldn't take
too seriously. It stars Kitlin Olsen from Hacks, who holds
the show together beautifully. You know, it's far fetched, but
it's also light and quirky and there's a lot of charm.
It's one of those formulaic crime of the week kind
of dramas. But it's a really fun, easy watch.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Oh nice, Okay, cool, that's high potential. It's on Disney plus.
Friends Like Her is the KEII drama that's on Netflix,
Sit and Kai Colder and Lockerby Search for a Truth
is on TV and Z one and TV and ZI
plus all the details for those shows, of course, on
the Newstalk ZEDB website. My Valentine's Day, Blunder.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Next, Getting your Weekends Started.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on Newstalk ZBE.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
If you turn on the radio or the tally back
in twenty twelve, chances are you would have heard the song.
It was all the TV shows, you know how new
music used to get released on TV shows. Was in
shows like Bones, Catfish, The Vampire Diaries. It was on
commercials everywhere, and it was on this very little known movie,
one that didn't have much success called silver Lining's Playbook. Anyway,

(01:00:15):
it's a johey. It's by the Lumineers, and they're kind
of plucky heart on their sleeve. Folk band. They started
as a cover band and then obviously kind of grew
from that and they moved out of New York, which
is a little bit unconventional, but found huge success internationally. Anyway,
they've just released a brand new album, is their first album,

(01:00:36):
and we're gonna have a little bit of a listen
before midday today see if they've changed their sound at all,
see if they've headed in a different direction. I'm looking
forward to that, speaking of heating in different directions. Valentine's Day,
I thought I was sorted you see, I thought I
had it and our kind of agreement, and I feel
like couples do need a sort of an agreement, even
if it's unspoken. Our agreement is you don't kind of

(01:00:56):
spend heaps of money on Valentine's Day or anything. You
just do something kind of thoughtful. And so I had
planned for Valentine's Day this year to give my wife
a nice card, write a little poem inside, like a
little funny little poem, and get us some chocolate as well.
I thought, oh, that'd be good. And I didn't mention
Valentine's Day, and obviously she's got other things on her
mind at the moment. So I thought, you know what,
she's probably going to forget Valentine's Day. I'm going to

(01:01:17):
win Valentine's Day this year. Anyway. I get up yesterday
morning and I go into the kitchen. My wife has
made me a beautiful card, and she's got me a
very nice box of chocolates. I immediately realized that she's
got me a much nicer box of chocolates than the
chocolate I've got her. Now, I'm not too concerned about that,
because I think, don't worry Jack. The card is absolutely

(01:01:37):
nailed it this year. Now for the card, I have
a bit of a system, like to be organized, and
that every time I go to a book shop or
a stationary shop and I see unique cards, I always
buy a couple because the thing is, you always need cards,
and it's so annoying if you've then got to go
out as a special outing to go and get a card,
you know, for someone's birthday or anything. So I keep

(01:01:57):
a little selection of cards in a drawer at home.
Earlier in the week, I went to that drawer, I
looked in it and I found the perfect card. It
had a picture of a shrimp on the front of
it and it said You're shrimply the best. I thought,
that's perfect, right, perfect for Valentine's Day. My wife is
going to love this card. Good old me forgetting this card,

(01:02:18):
however long ago I got it from whatever bookstore I
got it. Anyway, get the card, get the chocolate, leave
it out for Valentine's Day. My wife's got a bit
of chocolates for me. That doesn't matter, because my card's
gonna win. I get a call a couple of hours later,
my wife's on the phone. Hey, Sweetart, I said, happy
Valentine's Day. She said, you gave me my card. I
said what, and she said, you gave me a card

(01:02:39):
that I had bought already. And I said, no, no,
I didn't. I went to my card collection and I
got I got a card for myself, and she said no.
I saw the You're Shrimply the Best card online and
I bought it so that I could give it to someone.
And you've just recycled my card. So it turns out

(01:03:00):
that I didn't win Valentine's Day this year. Never mind,
it'll come around again February fourteenth next year, I suppose.
But yes, a little bit of egg on my face.
Thank goodness. My poem was so good. You're not hearing
that though. Twenty four to eleven, you're a jackdaim on
Newstalk ZEDB.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Putting the time question to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 21 (01:03:18):
Former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is, well, this course
you're in the country to talk about economics, which we're
deeply interested in at the moment, in trying to grow
the economy. So give us some advice from Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
How do you deal with the world.

Speaker 21 (01:03:29):
In foreign investments? And immigrants and their money without blowing
it up politically.

Speaker 22 (01:03:33):
It's a tough equation to balance. The most important thing
is people need to understand that your immigration program has
strong rules and they're enforced, and that your borders are secure.
In our experience in Australia, people don't think the rules
are being followed and the system's being gained, they won't
buy it. But more broadly, on attracting foreign investment, remove
the barriers that are coming through regulation to improve competitiveness.
It's really not rocket science.

Speaker 21 (01:03:54):
Back Monday from six am the mic Asking Breakfast with
the Rain drover of the last news Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Twenty one to eleven on news Talk z'db. Well, the
Gulf of America is official. President Trump ordered it to
be changed an official government documentation earlier this week. That
means that Google Maps and Apple Maps have followed along
in our textbook, poor stenhouses here with the details cal
to Paul.

Speaker 23 (01:04:17):
Yes, they say they're doing it because of long standing policy.

Speaker 15 (01:04:21):
Jack.

Speaker 23 (01:04:21):
They say that they always try to match the official
US government sources. But interestingly, the changes only for those
folks who are in the United States are the only
ones who are going to see Golf of America. In Mexico,
it's still going to see Golf of Mexico, and in
the rest of the world it's going to say Golf
of Mexico with Golf of America in some brackets.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Right. It's yeah, obviously a real pressing issue. I've seen
all of these divisions this week where people have gone
and looked at maps and tried to work out how
much of Mexico's Exclusive Economic Zone covers the or how
much of the Golf of Mexico slash America is covered
by the Mexican Exclusive Economic Zone, how much is Cubas

(01:05:05):
and how much is America. And I haven't yet seen
one divide that suggests that America can claim the most
of that space. But anyway, we just go.

Speaker 23 (01:05:14):
If you put an S on the end the Gulf
of America's yeah, there you go. Maybe that's the way
to solve this diplomatic Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Hey, Apple's expected to launch a new low end phone
this week.

Speaker 15 (01:05:27):
Yes, they are.

Speaker 23 (01:05:28):
It's expected to be the new version of the iPhone S.
So it's actually the last phone that still has the
physical home button that was on the original iPhone.

Speaker 19 (01:05:40):
Right, it changed a bit of a time.

Speaker 23 (01:05:41):
It got a touch id and things like that, but
it's the only one that still has it, so that
whole look is going to be gone. Assuming it's going
to be just like the other iPhones now where it's
you know, a swipe up and things like that on
your screen, but also expected to get the latest and
greatest A eighteen chip as it's known, which is also

(01:06:02):
in the iPhone sixteen currently.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
And it's going to get something brand new.

Speaker 23 (01:06:06):
It's going to get Apple's own modem. So Apple was
using other people's chips and then started making their own
and had huge success with that. By the way, now
they're going away and they're getting rid of the old
modems that they used to buy from suppliers and they're
doing that themselves too, And so it's expected that that
will be the very first time that gets to be

(01:06:29):
connected to the internet. Tim Cook's teased for launch by
saying it was an opportunity to see the newest member
of the family, so it could be something bigger. That
seems to suggest somethingeh, but I think most of the
analysts think it will be the new iPhone.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
The thing is with THEE that people love it. People
who like people really love it. You know, you've got
all the topping bells and whistles, ten cameras on the
back iPhone. Yeah, but this is the EC's the cheapest
model and it really reliable. Eh yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:06:59):
And the other one that people it's maybe another it's
a divide, but I'm one of those people. I don't
want my phone to keep getting bigger. I'd actually quite
like it to be small. And the minis the iPhone
was an iPhone you see mini. I can't remember the
naming convention, but they did a smaller iPhone and that
was really popular with a big group of people. Small

(01:07:20):
a small group of people, I guess, but those who
had it loved it. Didn't want a genormous phone in
their pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yeah. Now, Meta has been enjoying pretty stellar performance in
the stock market recently, but they've laid off thousands of
people this week.

Speaker 23 (01:07:34):
Yeah, they did well, they did. This is now their
third year in a row that they've done these sort
of beginning of the year cuts. This was another five
percent of their workforce, So if you do the numbers,
it's up to about as many as three thousand, six
hundred people. What's different about this one is the other
one part of their sort of year of efficiency as
they called it, where they really were trying to you know,

(01:07:55):
cut some of the costs out of the business, which
as as you say, did incredible things for its stock price.

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
This one, though, they.

Speaker 23 (01:08:02):
Publicly said, is is they get rid of staff who
weren't meeting expectations, right, which, if you got cut is
one of those five percent.

Speaker 15 (01:08:11):
That's a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Of a dagger, that very much so.

Speaker 23 (01:08:14):
Yeah, and for everybody to kind of know that, which
may only not even be true as to why these
people are being let go, because they also say it's
to make way for strong AI talents, so you would
have to assume that they're maybe gonna read jig some
investment rather than just get rid of terrible people. But no,
not a nice way to start a year, and especially
when you've got that headline.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Along with you as well. Yeah, yeah, hey, thanks Paul,
appreciate it. As always, that is our Textbert Paul stin house. Jack.
If your wife bought the same card as you, how
did that get to be your fault?

Speaker 9 (01:08:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Sorry, I didn't explain it properly. It's not that you
bought the same card as me. It's that I took
a card that my wife had bought and gave it
to her for Valentine's Day, What Mom seventeen to eleven
on News Dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
He'd be a little bit of way to kick off
your weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepeart
on code on Z for high Quality Supplements used Talks'.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Fourteen minutes to eleven on News Talks. They'd be Bob
Campbell's our master of wine and is with us this morning?
Colder Bob?

Speaker 15 (01:09:14):
Sure, Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Before we get to your best buy for this week,
we thought we would hit you up for a Valentine's
Day pick as well. If, like me, you're trying to
make up for a bit of a Valentine's Day faux
pas yesterday and you you've chosen to Pegasus Bay Averts
Tremina from North Canterbury. So tell us about the Gaverts.

Speaker 17 (01:09:31):
Yeah, well, Gaverts Tremina is an aromatic wine that's that's
got punchy aromas that often resembles flowers, and in this
case it's rose petal, which I think makes it the
perfect Valentines. They better than forget the roses.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Go with the rose petals instead. Yeah, nice, Okay, and
your picture. This week, your best buy is a Trinity
Held twenty twenty one, the Gimblet wine from Hawk's Bay.
So tell us about this. Why did you choose it?

Speaker 17 (01:10:00):
Well, it's New Zealand Lamb Day today, as you said,
and I just wanted to choose the wine that would
make a great match with Lamb. Lamb's a high fat
meat and in fat as flavor, so that makes it
a high flavor meat and that's a major consideration when
you're making a trying to contrive a food and wine match.

(01:10:22):
Cabinet Sauvignon is the absolute classic. It's a thick skinned
red grate that's high in flavor, and it makes it
a perfect match with the high flavored, high flavored Lamb.
Trinity Hild twenty twenty one. The Gimblet is a blend
actually of Cabinet Fronc, Cabinet Sauvignon, and Petty Verde. I

(01:10:43):
think the wine even has a subtle minty character which
gives it a built in mint sauce like component that's
I think absolutely perfect for Lamb.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Oh, that's amazing. So what does it actually taste like.

Speaker 17 (01:10:55):
Well, it's dense and tense red with casis, dark berry, chocolate,
mocker vanilla, cigar box and spicy oak flavors with a
touch of mint. It's an approachable wine now, but it
has good aging potential. I think a powerhouse red that
was built to enhance the flavors of New Zealand Land.

(01:11:18):
I think from the Gimblet Gravel's a premium red wine
region in Hawk's Bay which specializes in in high flavored,
high flavored red wine.

Speaker 24 (01:11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Nice, so we can you pick it up?

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Bob?

Speaker 15 (01:11:34):
Well?

Speaker 17 (01:11:34):
I found it at Whiskey and More in the White
Kaddo for thirty four dollars, which is a bit of
a saving on the regular price. Liquor Legends Auckland has
it also for thirty four dollars, and the Good Wine
Company in Auckland for thirty five ninety nine, so they're
all pretty keen price.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
And you said at ll Age, well, but how long
should you be storing it for before enjoying it?

Speaker 12 (01:11:57):
Do you think?

Speaker 15 (01:11:58):
Well?

Speaker 17 (01:12:00):
Five to ten years? Yeah, ten years might be stretching it,
but with full storage it'll it'll do that with the ease.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Nice. Okay, fantastic, Thank you, Bob. So Bob's best by
this week celebrating National Lamb Day is a Trinity Hill
twenty twenty one the Gimblet Cabinet Sevignyon from hawks Bay.
All the details, of course on the news talks EDB website.
Right now it is eleven minutes to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Rout climb Passed is our man in the garden on
Saturday mornings on news Talk ZEDB, and he is celebrating
a summer harvest this morning, morning.

Speaker 12 (01:12:40):
Rude, good morning. Are you all good?

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Yeah, I'm very well too.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
You what.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
We've been harvesting a fair bit at our place. Actually,
just the number of tomatoes. Have absolutely nailed the tomatoes
this year. I know that nailing tomatoes has nothing to
bring about too much, but give him if it's last
year versus this year. My goodness, it's political. I'm sort
of I'm like getting into like Chutney territory now, I think,
you know, Yeah, it's just there's so many and there's
only so much you can do.

Speaker 16 (01:13:06):
No, there's there's lots more you can do. You can
also stuff things up like I've done. No, no, I've
only got a half.

Speaker 12 (01:13:13):
If you like amount of tomato.

Speaker 16 (01:13:15):
So it's not, as you say, easy, and you know,
anybody can do it. Sometimes things can go wrong, and
it's in my case, you know, it's it's the watering.
It's actually where I learned how to pre water before
you plant the plants in a in a saturated area.
I remember when we talked about a few four weeks ago. Yeah,
that's it, so that that didn't go that well. But yeah,

(01:13:37):
I've been harvesting different things because you know, I've been
on the road a bit with my cousin and with
my little three and a half year old. So it's
cool fun and no, it's it's cool fun. But we
found fu sure tree future on Bank's Peninsula. But it
is a really beautiful and quite common in that area.

(01:13:57):
And the cool thing is they've got the most amazing
flowers and the most deep purple fruits, which are right
right now. So I thought, blow it. I'm going to
put those things. I'm going to get them and I'm
going to put them in a container of some seed
raising mix, and I'm going to do according to what

(01:14:18):
people say it has to be done, because it's not
easy growing those things, by the way, So there you go. Yeah, yeah,
so that's what I've done, literally, and I put all
the stuff on the on the on the on the website.
There very tiny seeds. To terminate them, you simply put
them in you know, you put them in some soaking
water and then slowly put them gently all over the

(01:14:41):
place in your in your bed of of of mix,
your seed raising mix. And basically that can happen in
that can actually come up in three weeks or three years.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
And you can also turn those little little you can
turn them into jam, your little seeds.

Speaker 16 (01:15:00):
Yeah, you probably could, but I don't think that many
people do that. Not those particular seeds off the tree.
Few they are atable mode you used to eat them
all the time. But what we did, what did what
we did? A week later, Julie and I just realized
that the dems and plums were falling off the tree.
They they actually are weird if you taste them raw,

(01:15:21):
but actually not that bad. But boy, do you make
jam out of that? It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Yeah that's normally, yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:15:31):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 16 (01:15:32):
Normally when you pick them, you picked them in the
later on you as you know, with stonefold, you actually
chewed them into you know, actually get the trees and
properly cut them into proper if you like trees, not
too high, not too low, and all that sort of
so of pruning is important. But I thought, you know

(01:15:54):
what I'm going to do. As I'm pruning, I'm picking
the things off at the same time.

Speaker 12 (01:15:59):
So I thought, that's it. You don't have to go
on your letter twice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
You know that doesn't in.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
So you you to be totally clear. You're picking your
dams and plums and then pruning at the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:16:10):
No, I think I actually pruned a whole if you
like the whole plums off, the whole stalks with the plums,
and then you take it down.

Speaker 12 (01:16:22):
I ended to Julie and she starts.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Taking yeah, nice, yes, exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:16:27):
You don't have to buck around up there. So this
is how it went. And then you realized that.

Speaker 16 (01:16:31):
It wasn't me that actually invented it, because I saw
it in the in the Helenda.

Speaker 12 (01:16:36):
Ellen's book as well. Some people have done that. So
all these little bits and pieces.

Speaker 16 (01:16:41):
I decided to put that in because it saves you
so much time if you want to harvest the damsel plums.

Speaker 12 (01:16:46):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Nice, Yeah, that sounds great. Okay, you've got a little
recent for us as well. It's a bit of a
mix up I think from Linda's recommendations and Julie's as well. Right,
so we're going to make sure we put that up
on the news talks he'd be websites so people can
make a bit of a bit of a spread as
well with their damse and plums because they because are
they how sweet are they coming off the tree or
coming off the freshly prune branches?

Speaker 12 (01:17:10):
They are not that sweet. So you put a bit
of sugar. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 16 (01:17:16):
And one thing you have to remember that's good for
your teeth is to make sure that you take all
these bickle hard seeds out of the gym because if
you make one mistake, I don't think some cross would
be impressed.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
No, no, no, there's a couple of crack mollers. No
one wants that very much, sir. I hope you've enjoyed.
I hope you've enjoyed joy and your cousin around the
place as well. And we will see you next Yes,
root climb past in the garden for us after eleven
o'clock on news Talk. Z'd be travel correspondent is taking
us to the west coast of the US, strolling along
the coastline to Santa Monica in LA As well as that,

(01:17:52):
we've got your book picks for this week, including the
latest from Jojo Moy's new music from the lumin Ears,
looking forward to that, plus big life changes what things
are like at your place, but we're going through a
few at mine at the moment a clinical psychologist, as
well as after the eleven o'clock News with some really
useful practical tips on navigating big life changes. News is

(01:18:14):
next up. It's almost eleven on News Talks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Bticle Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going
through the weekend with bpure dot cot dot instead for
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Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
What's the word for a goka without an engine? You know,
like a homemade goka? You know, Like, do you call
it a trolley? You do call it a trolley A
but it's weird, it feels weird, doesn't feel right to me.
A trolley. I'm going to make a trolley like a
trolley something you collect food within a supermarket, don't you know. Anyway,
it's just been bothering me all morning. Conditions for the

(01:19:19):
Red Bull Trolley Grand Prix looking a little bit overcast
in the O nine in Auckland for this afternoon's racing.
It's the tenth time they've held in Auckland's domain. Thousands
of people are going to be going along and watching it.
It's just so much fun. The whole thing is just
a bit of a celebration. But they do reckonckd There
could be a little bit of rain this afternoon. Not
sure how that's going to affect the handling for some

(01:19:40):
of those trolleys. It probably doesn't affect them quite as
much as it does in Formula one or anything like that.
If you can think of another word, it is trolley.
I'm sure it's trolley anyway. That kicks off just after
midday today. Big afternoon is sport. You've got that, You've
got Super Rugby, the Chiefs and the Blues. Tonight you've
got the Warriors of course in their last pre season
match against the Storm and the Tron. Thousands of tickets

(01:20:01):
sold for that game, eighteen thousands at last count. So
big weekend of sport Elliott's that will be taking you
through the afternoon with weekend sports that we're going to
catch up with him very shortly before midday though new
music from the lumin Ears, their fifth album has just
been released and they've gone in a little bit of
a different direction, so I'll make sure we save some
space and play some of that very shortly. Right now though,
it's eight minutes past eleven, Jack team time to catch

(01:20:24):
up with our clinical psychologist. Google Sutherland is with us
this morning.

Speaker 15 (01:20:28):
Cald A, good morning, Good morning, Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
How are you. I'm very well, thank you. I think
you and I have a few things in common at
the moment in that both of our families are going
through some big life changes.

Speaker 25 (01:20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:20:39):
Absolutely, yes, I was thinking about this this week and
about how you've got an impending arrival and we had
our first grandchild arrived into our family just before just
before New Year actually, which.

Speaker 15 (01:20:53):
Which was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Congratulations, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:20:57):
Yeah, it's still getting my head round that.

Speaker 26 (01:20:58):
And then I'm also getting my head round the fact
that our younger daughter is we're taking her up to
Auckland this weekend act.

Speaker 15 (01:21:06):
Le to start at UNI.

Speaker 26 (01:21:09):
And yeah, it's a very you know, those big phases
of family life are quite big mark as I think
for any family to go through.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yeah, it's funny because they can. I mean, there are
some obvious upsides and reasons for celebration and all of that.
But when you go through change, especially when you've been
in a family that has you know, kind of had
consistency or not necessarily routine, but you know you've kind
of the shape of a family has been you know,
a certain way for a while, it can be a
little little bit upset unsettling, right.

Speaker 26 (01:21:41):
Yeah, absolutely, And actually I really like that term, that
shape of the family, because you're right, it changes and
it morphs. And I often think about it too, like
a bit of a metaphor springs to mind for me.
Sometimes it is about, you know, a ship setting out
to see and setting off on a voyage and you're

(01:22:03):
kind of into uncharted territory.

Speaker 15 (01:22:04):
Yeah, you know, and you're not quite sure where you're going.

Speaker 26 (01:22:08):
You've never been here before. And there's lots of people
that have been on similar journeys and who could give
you all the advice that you'll you know, they want to,
but it's not quite the same as doing it in
your own journey, and it's uncharted waters, and that's it
can be quite disruptive for people just just you know,
not in a just more in a sort of a subtle,

(01:22:29):
ongoing way rather necessarily than one huge, big thing. But yeah,
it can be really unsettling for families.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Okay, well you've got some really useful practical tips for
just managing the immediacy of those big life changes, then
why don't you run us through them?

Speaker 15 (01:22:43):
Yeah? Sure.

Speaker 9 (01:22:44):
So.

Speaker 26 (01:22:44):
Look, I was thinking about what would I say if
somebody said, what are your three three top tips?

Speaker 15 (01:22:49):
So I'm trying to narrow them down to three.

Speaker 26 (01:22:51):
So firstly, and actually you're I think you were talking
a little bit about this last week about how you're
a man that likes sort of routine and pattern and
you know, likes to do the same thing, you know,
have your coffee the same way, And I think you
know there's something in that about having some really nice
rhythms to your day, having some things that you know,

(01:23:16):
I sort of like tent holes that are that will
help keep you stable. So whether that's whether that's you know,
going to the gym every day or most days, or
whether that's having meals at a particular time or you know,
family meals, but just some some rhythms that happen throughout
your day most days. If not all days that just

(01:23:36):
keep you grounded, They keep you coming back and when
everything else can send chaotic or turbulent, these are the
things that can help just give life a bit of
shape and a bit of sense.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Yeah, it's like a touchstone.

Speaker 6 (01:23:49):
Eh.

Speaker 15 (01:23:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good way I'm thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah,
so that's number one.

Speaker 26 (01:23:54):
Number two would be as much as possible, And obviously
this is this is more difficult if you've got a
new baby just about to arrive. But keeping those bookends
of your day reasonably can a stunt, you know, getting
up at roughly the same time and going to bear
at roughly the same time. This sounds like, this sounds

(01:24:15):
you know, in some ways, I think people can overlook
how this sounds simple, and I think people can overlook
how that how how simple but effective it is. You know,
have a lieon shure sometimes and you know people have
late nights, all good. But keeping that sort of those
book ends of the day, the start and the end
reasonably fixed as much as you can, I think, really

(01:24:38):
help keep stability. If we go back to that metaphor
of the ship, it helps the ship keep sailing smoothly,
or at least as smoothly as it can when things
get a bit when the weather gets.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
A bit still, Yeah, nice, And what's your third tip?

Speaker 26 (01:24:52):
Third one is really around our relationships without with each other,
that that you know, these times of family change, when
when you're the shape of your family is changing, can
can result in you know, some tension, some a little
bit of friction from time to time, whether that's because
you've disrupted, you know, you're down on sleep, or where
they're just not feeling quite right. And so practicing forgiveness practice,

(01:25:18):
assuming that the other people that you were talking to
are engaging with come from a place, from a good place,
They've got a good intentions. They're not out to deliberately
muck things up or say things to hurt you. But
they But we when we're under stress, we all kind
of can do or say things that we wish we hadn't.

(01:25:40):
And so adopting that stance going in and saying, actually,
let's just forgive each other and practice forgiving as much
as we can so that those so that you avoid
that sort of layer It's almost like pancakes on a
plate can layer up and up and up. So it's
about forgiving and getting those pancakes off the plate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Hey, look, I'm always one for getting pancakes off a plate,
you know me. Absolutely no, that's such good advice. And
thank you, good good luck for the trip to the
O nine and for this big change. And hopefully if
you've got a bit of the empty Nesta vibes, then
hopefully you can make that up with your new grandchild.
And you know one will last shit the other.

Speaker 26 (01:26:20):
Yeah, look, thanks Jack, and good luck for your impending
arrival too.

Speaker 15 (01:26:23):
It's goes really well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Yeah, thank you so much. Doogle, Google subtle and from
Umbrella Well Being. Then we sorted it. It's not a
belly cat, although that was a good suggestion. It's not
a no go cart. It's also a good suggestion. The
word I've been looking for all morning was soapbox. Yes,
because the Americans, right, they call them soapbox, like a
soapbox and derby or do they call it a derby?

(01:26:47):
They probably called a derby a soapbox derby. But yeah,
a soapbox derby. But it still feels weird if you
call it a soapbox, because you feel like I feel
like a preacher stands on a soapbox. Right, No, maybe
not anyway, that's what they're that's what they're racing an
Awkcland's domain this afternoon. So that should be a whole
lot of fun. Right now, it is quarter past to leave.
We're going to take you La next. Our travel correspondent

(01:27:08):
has just visited Santa Monica.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Travel with Wendy Wuturs. Where the World is yours book now?

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Yeah, travel correspondent is Mike Yardley and he's with us
this morning. Kilder, Mike Kilder.

Speaker 25 (01:27:21):
Jack.

Speaker 10 (01:27:21):
Now, Kyle Preston. I believe till Major could be handing
him the keys to the city.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Three tries on debut, So let's be honest. Kyle probably
wasn't expecting to get on the park last night. Nor
maybe he wouldn't have been expecting to get on for
seventy minutes. He might have been thinking, you get fifteen
minutes at the end, right, yeah, James, Yeah exactly. And
to score, to score three tries on debut having signed
from Wellington, it cannot get much sweeter than that.

Speaker 10 (01:27:46):
I happened to be in Wellington today, but I won't
be boasting.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
No, keep your keep your hometown very quiet as my
advice to you. I mean, there is another way to
look at it, though, Mike, as I was saying earlier,
you know, I think how many of those Championship Crusaders
seasons started with losses. If you're a statistician, you might
actually be really concerned that they had a triumphant victory
over the old Faux last night. You know that's true,

(01:28:12):
But no, given last season, very very pleased with the
first game last.

Speaker 10 (01:28:16):
Night, encouraging.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Yes, anyway, we're turning our attentions to another side of
the Pacific this morning, the spirit of Santa Monica, and
it is all about sand, surf and sunsets of Santa Monica.
Do you have any favorite perchase?

Speaker 15 (01:28:30):
I do, Jack.

Speaker 10 (01:28:31):
I just love how the intensity of Ala just melts
away when you arrive at Santa Monica and you can
sort of understand why Angelino's descend there on the weekend
and such numbers to decompress. But if you want to
get to Bearings as the first timer to the scene,
I reckon there's two great spots. Palisades Park, which is
a top that huge bluff above Pacific Coast Highway AUSO

(01:28:53):
motion views and you get that long lens view down
onto the pier. And another Swell purchased the beautifully designed
Tonga Park, which is named in honor of the area's
indigenous people. And I've got he's fabulously designed wire frame lookouts,
the like giant concures and you can just walk into

(01:29:15):
them and you're just wracked in this beautiful like steel
wire frame looking at on the Pacific. That is a
choice spot.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Oh yeah, oh that sounds amazing. Did you check out
Venus Well, I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:29:27):
Know you about you, Jack, but Venus s beech Man.
Every time I go there, it seems kookier and crazier,
a hot mess of life's rich tapestry. Perhaps there's a
nice way of putting it, but it's colorful. And I
have to say, if you share my weakness for cheap
graphic T shirts, Venus Beach is hard to beat. Really

(01:29:49):
good bargains down there and very graphic, and I'm in
graphic in every sense t shirt. I actually went on
a bike down from Santa Monica to Venice, which is
I think from memory, about five k but you can
actually keep going on that cracking cycle path the Marvin
Broad Trailer all the way to Marina del Rey, and

(01:30:09):
if you want to do a guided bike to it.
They do some really cool stocks outside former homes of
the likes of Jim Morrison, Charlie Chaplin, and I also
saw Frank Geiy's home now. He of course is one
of America's great architects. Think of Walt Disney Concert Hall
in La. It's home Jack Frank Airi's so odd. It's

(01:30:30):
sort of like hay Barn meshed with a loft apartment.
It's the weirdest looking house I.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
Have seen, really, and by the beach as well, which
is very curious. Okay, that sounds interesting. I mean Santa
Monica is you know, they're all about the beach sports,
the UC people playing frisbee and stuff and you know,
and macking around. But it's really the birthplace of beach
volleyball A definitely.

Speaker 10 (01:30:54):
Yeah. I think how Waii says they invented it as
it was actually Send Monica.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
That popularized it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
Yeah, yeah, very much.

Speaker 10 (01:31:03):
And they also developed it into the tour side game
that you know, were associated with the look at Games
for example, which is why, of course obviously that beach
will play host to the sport at the twenty eight Games.
I also headed to Dogtown Coffee Jack, the reason being
that building is considered the birthplace of modern skateboarding, so

(01:31:24):
previously the cafe, and they do a great job sort
of paying homage to the history. There was a business
called Zephyr Productions that used to be based at Dogtown Coffee.
They made surfboards right back in the seventies, but they
noticed that for Surfe's and Santa Monica, if the waves
were small, they wanted to do something else, so they
developed these really aggressive skateboards so that surface could have

(01:31:49):
a ride on the dry land.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Yeah, oh that's amazing, that's so cool. So what would
you rate is the must dos on Santa Monica pier itself.

Speaker 10 (01:31:56):
Well, you've got to get that cliche selfie at the
end of the trial route sixty six sign. Then I
took a ride on the World's Only Soul about Ferris
wheeld Ones with one hundred and sixty thousand dazzling LEDs,
and I thought I did a light shoe in my place. Man,
you will not get a better aerial view of the
coast than from that fair as well. It's just incredible

(01:32:19):
and down the right at the end of the pear.
I loved this little Baha style canteena Maria Soul. If
you like here for heaters and oversized margaritas, you will
be in Seventh Heaven at Maria Soul.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
Cheek what about drinks and eats? Were there any standout
venues you fancy?

Speaker 15 (01:32:38):
Yeah, beyond the.

Speaker 10 (01:32:39):
Pair, I went to a mistaken seafood venue called Shaye
j on the Ocean ab And the reason I went
there is because it's got the most incredible history. A
guy called Jay Fiondella. He founded it in the fifties
and he was like this big town personality of Santa Monica.
The celebrity set loved him and there are just so
many insane stories. He convinced the astronaut Alan Shepard to

(01:33:03):
take one of the bar's peanuts into space on the
Apollo fourteen mission, and then several years later he nuts
back on Earth. Steve McQueen went into the bar and
nearly ate it. And the other really cool thing is
you can look at all the history on the walls.

Speaker 15 (01:33:21):
It's show.

Speaker 10 (01:33:22):
There is this photograph of circus elephants blowing their trumpets
at the bar back in the sixties.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
So as you do not to suggest that that isn't
very cultured, the spot are there any other culture spots
you recommend in the neighborhood.

Speaker 10 (01:33:37):
Well, if you like your movie history, there's actually this
amazing little restaurant. It's the oldest in Santa Monica called
the Galley. It's ninety years old this year. The reason
it's so special the fits out. It is decorated with
the props from the nineteen thirty five musingly on the
Bounty film. Wow, I feel like you're just sitting in
a film set, white visionary up cycling. You'd have to say, so,

(01:34:00):
you're going here for a clam chowder and a bit
of culture. The other thing I really like jack down
on Santa Monica Beach, the Singing Beach Chairs. They do
really good public arts and Santa Monica, but this would
be my favorite stop. These super sized chairs and they're
equipped with stainless steel tubes, so you just sit in
the chair and those tubes produce all sorts of whimsical

(01:34:22):
musical tones as the breeze blokes. Welcome to Santa Monica.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
Yeah, that's lovely. I was there a few months ago,
so before the fires.

Speaker 12 (01:34:30):
It's some.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
I reckon. It's just one of America's top people watching spots.
But walking along that coastline from Venice to Santa Monica.
Just you get all I mean, you get the tourists
as well, but you just get so many characters they
you know, walking along past Muscle Beach and all that
kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure, yeah, you know.
It's just it is.

Speaker 10 (01:34:49):
It is, you know, the carnival of life.

Speaker 16 (01:34:51):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
It is just all sorts of interesting people. I absolutely
love it. So thank you very much for that. We
will put all of your tips on newstalks. They'd be
website and catch you again next week.

Speaker 15 (01:35:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 25 (01:35:00):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
That is Mike Hardley, our travel correspondent.

Speaker 15 (01:35:04):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
I'm in the seventies. My brother and their friends all
used to call trolley's billy carts. I having a clue
where the name came from, but my parents called them
that too. Trolley Darby's is what they called these days,
says Ann Jack. A go kart without a motor we
used to call a billy cart and an Australia in
the nineteen seventies, says Simon. See, so obviously billy cart
is a bit of a Maybe there's a sort of

(01:35:25):
a geographical divide, do we think maybe between soapboxes and
billy carts. See as a kid, I always called them
go karts, But I see why that gets confused with
motorized go cuts. I see you can't maybe have the
same name for them both. Non motorized gokut doesn't work
quite as well either, does it. In a couple of minutes,
we'll catch up with Alex Smith. He has a very
very busy show planned for us on Newstalk's EDB Weekend

(01:35:48):
Sport this afternoon, right after the midday news with all
sorts of sporting action this weekend. Right now, though it
is twenty seven minutes past eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Getting your weekends started, It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
This this is Kendrick Lamar. You probably saw him in
the Super Bowl halftime show the other day. I thought
it was pretty good. I feel, I feel if you've
been following the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, basically
his entire Kendrick Lamar's entire Super Bowl show was dedicated
to stomping on Drake's grave and humiliating him and what

(01:36:46):
has become probably the greatest rap battle of this or
wrapper battle of this of this century. Anyway, I started
to feel bit bad for Drake. Actually, if anything, Elliot
Smith was I'm sure watching the Super Bowl for other
reasons on Monday and his and for weekend suport this afternoon,
Good morning, sir.

Speaker 27 (01:37:03):
Morning, both were equally well that it was better than
the game itself that the halftime show, because the game
was a bit of a dud.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
It was a blowout in the end. It was such
a bad game of football. Yeah, it was really poor.
Its just yeah, it was just totally one side today.

Speaker 27 (01:37:17):
If you're you just want a good game a game
homes didn't turn up and the Eagles just monster monster
and was very.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
Prison Yeah, yeah, it was amazing. Really, what did you
think about Kendrick Lamar's fleared jeans. I wouldn't with myself, No,
that would I know, I'm just not you know how
all fashions were in cycles, right, but I just I
just don't know. I just can't see myself pulling that
on off.

Speaker 27 (01:37:39):
I'm sure I used to wear similar sort of jeans
like that. Yeah, that very long time ago, maybe twenty
years ago, but that was before.

Speaker 15 (01:37:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Anyway, a fantastic start to the Super Rugby season. Just
such a good start Crusaders Hurricanes. Fantastic game, indo end stuff.
Kyle Preston, Yeah, player i'd never heard of before last
night comes in poor no hope them hobbles off what
less than ten minutes into the game. Carl Priston comes in,
takes a spot up against cam Roy Guards, scores a

(01:38:14):
head trick. How about that?

Speaker 27 (01:38:15):
What a fairy tale against him is from Wellington against
a lot of his teammates that he's played with the
NFSC side. The Hurricanes tried to sign him, but he
wanted to get out of Wellington a little bit and
away from home, went to the Crusaders, debuted last night,
scores three tries against some of his mates and helps
win the game. He was exceptional off the bench. He Yeah,
he's very, very dynamic, which is exactly what you want

(01:38:37):
from a halfback. Saw him in the NPC last year,
wondered whether he could take it further to super regular level.
Well in one game if he keeps playing like that.
He has answered those questions. Yeah, doesn't much better than
three tries on.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
And just such an important win for the kind of Crusaders'
mentality after last sear.

Speaker 27 (01:38:53):
While they needed that, didn't they to get the monkey
off the back four wins in total last year. If
you start with a win over in New Zealand, side
just gets that confidence up a little bit and you
know the Hurricanes can take plenty out of that performance
as well. They were leading fourteen twenty two to fourteen.
They'll be gutted to lose from that position. But I
liked elements of what they did last night as well
in terms of Super Rugby. Kicking off that game, then

(01:39:15):
the warritars Highlands after it. Yeah, one pointed to decide
it Highnders fans. Maybe there's a knock on and the
lead up to that winning try for the war Atars,
but you know, a close game first up at one
pointed to finish two cracking games to get Super Rugby underwelling.
Kyle Preston is going to join us on the show
this afternoon, Fresh Office three tries looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
You've got to course the Blues Blues Chiefs this evening.
You've got the Warriors playing in the tron as well
AFC playing across the ditch. I think about eight o'clock
to the FC. What else is on the show?

Speaker 27 (01:39:47):
Mark Robinson us on the Rugby Chief Executive is going
to join us as first comments since the Innos saga
blew up during the week.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
So, okay, here's my question about this, right so old mate,
Sir Jim Ratcliffe says that market conditions mean that Inios
can't afford to basically pay for the sponsorship for the
remainder of his deal. Isn't he personally worth like two
billion dollars? He is may even more than that.

Speaker 27 (01:40:09):
He might be worth checking the bank account, you know,
market conditions of his bank account, because I'm sure he
could pay it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
See, isn't the reputational damage to him alone? How much
was left on the deal for the three years?

Speaker 27 (01:40:22):
And I've heard varying numbers, but he were between sort
of eight million to fifteen maybe even twenty million a year.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Okay, Obviously for you or I that's a lot of maney,
a lot of pair of bell bottomed jeans, right, But
for Jim Ratcliffe, like that's a rounding era. If you,
if you've read it worth a couple of billion dollars,
you would have thought that the reputational damage alone would
be enough for him just to step and pay it
out of his personal coffers.

Speaker 27 (01:40:42):
I wonder if there's something bigger at plays mentioned market conditions.
But you look at the cycling team that is cut
to shreds. Yeah, the if sorry, the America's Cup team
that he is now ditched and he's going to set
up his own that won't come cheap. And then Manchester
United's cutting hundreds of jobs there. He just bought it
in the last year or so. So there is some
maybe some underlying issues within yours around.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
That Libbysis Tech produced the Libbysis checks fifteen bit dollars.

Speaker 27 (01:41:07):
Here we go, So I mean he can afford take
that out of your bank account. So Jim, you've got
plenty left over, don't worry about that. So Mark Robinson
to join us to go through that saga and exactly
how New Zealand Rugby found out that any US weren't
going to pay.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Yeah, okay, yeah, and the likelihood that they're going to
be able to find another sponsor.

Speaker 27 (01:41:25):
Well, these things take so long, don't they. It's not
like you basically go and you know, sign the deal
same day that you meet these people. It's a lot
of relationship building and haggling over numbers and what they're
getting out of the product and how many commercial appearances
and where their logo.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Is going to be.

Speaker 27 (01:41:39):
So these things take a while to from gestation to
actually coming on the jersey, so it's not like it
happens overnight.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
You know, there'll be some people who are out there thinking,
you know, what serves New Zealand Rugby right for signing
up with any offs. I mean it's ultimately it's our national.

Speaker 27 (01:41:53):
Sport that sign Yeah, signing up for anything you don't
get delivered, you know, a company goes into receivers it,
whatever it is. You're left out of pocket from something
that you're expecting to be delivered and New Zealand Rugby
have got it. So it's going to be fascinating to
see whether this goes to a court case, whether there's
a settlement coming, whatever it might be.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
But you New Zealan Rugby not happy, very good, Okay,
thanks for your time. Looking forward to the show this afternoon.
Now it's Smith behind the mic for Weekend Sport right
after the twelve o'clock news before midday. That new album
from the Luminiars to share with you right now is
twenty five to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Saturday morning with Jack Tame Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
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Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
News Talks. He'd be twenty two minutes to twelve on
your Saturday. Katherine Rains, our book reviewer, is here with
her two reads for the weekend. Hey Catherine, Morning Jack Okay.
Jojo Moys has a new book. It's called We All
Live Here. Tell us about it.

Speaker 28 (01:42:48):
So, Lila Kennedy's the main character, and she's a middle
my age woman and her husband Dan has recently left
her and her two daughters to be with his pregnant
girlfriend and Lylah's two children. Sally's have your typical moody
sixteen year old girl who's dealing with all sorts of
her own problems. And Violet, her younger daughter, is almost
completely the opposite. She's outspoken and she has no filter.

(01:43:11):
She never holds back her thoughts, and her recently widowed stepfather,
Bill has moved into their large old home. And then
all of a sudden, her estrange biological dad, Gene, unexpectedly
re enters her life after thirty five years. So she
has the stress and drama which seems to be carrying alone,
and she herself as an accomplished writer, but with all

(01:43:31):
the stress, she's got writer's block. And she hasn't been
able to produce the chapters that she's been contracted for,
So you're adding in a whole lot of financial stress
on top of that, because money's tight and she's full
of rage really towards just about everything. And then you
see her world start to change in this new definition
of family that's messy and chaotic. There's a bit of
romance in there and friendships and very unconventional family dynamics.

(01:43:55):
And I guess what Jojo Moyes is talking about is,
no matter how complex and difficult your life can become,
you can always rely on those that are around you,
and not necessarily immediate family. And so it was all
about adapt to and simplifying life. And it was a
really well told story with actually a really good dose
of humor in there too.

Speaker 15 (01:44:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Nice, Okay, that sounds great. So that's by Jojo and Moyes.
The book is We All Live Here. You've also read
The Peacock and the Sparrow by Is Barry.

Speaker 28 (01:44:20):
So Is Barry herself spent six years as an operations
officer for the CIA, serving in Baghdad and elsewhere around
the globe, and lived and worked through Europe and the
Middle East and particularly Bahrain during the Arab Spring, so
you can kind of see the aspects of this in
the story, and the story set deep within the capital

(01:44:41):
city of Menmah, and the sounds and smells and the
decadence and the poverty, and that sort of sense of
inevitable change running throughout the novel, and the stories about
a very cynical and jaded s Ai s Cia sorry
spy called Shane's Collins, and he's ready to come in
from the cold, and he's stationed in Bahrain, off the
coast of Saudi Arabia for his final tour, and he

(01:45:04):
just wants to get it over and done with, which
is covering Iranian support for an insurgency against the monarchy.
And he meets this young woman, a beautiful artist called Elizma,
and his eyes are open to the side of Bahrain
that most expats never experience, in questions he never thought
to ask. And then when a trusted informant becomes embroider
and a murder, he finds himself drawn into the conflict

(01:45:25):
and his loyalties are up ended and he's caught in
this cross winds of revolution. In his entire career, it's
kind has led him to this point in relationships and
an interesting take on how he thinks about things and
that moment we have to choose where your loyalty lies.
And I think because of is Berry's background, you get
this real feel of a real deal of a spy

(01:45:46):
novel and someone in the know and giving you the
inside edge and the spy world. Well maybe who knows,
but yeah, it was a well told story and I
really liked cool how it was all pulled together.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds really really good. Okay, that's The
Peacock and the Sparrow by Is Barry. We All Live
Here by Jojo Moyes was Catherine's first pick. She'll be
back with this next day with another couple of raids.
Thanks Catherine. Right now it is eighteen minutes to twelve.
Automatic is the new album from the Luminears. We're gonna
have it listen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
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Speaker 9 (01:46:25):
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Speaker 24 (01:46:37):
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Speaker 12 (01:46:49):
Let it lie comb down on me, Let it lie
comb down on me.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
This is your all I Got. It's by the Luminears.
They've just released there this album. It's their fifth album.
The album is called Automatic and the Stell. Clifford Our
Music Review has been.

Speaker 29 (01:47:12):
Listening nothing like a heart reaching ballad for Valentine's Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:47:20):
Great.

Speaker 29 (01:47:21):
He has a stellar voice and it's really showcased in
this album. So something about the luminis after that massive
song ho hey, that's like just.

Speaker 19 (01:47:29):
Been everywhere.

Speaker 29 (01:47:34):
And it's got that big strum banjo we kind of sound.
And it was at a time when all of there
were kind of those folky bands coming to the forefront,
the Ears of Monsters and men.

Speaker 19 (01:47:45):
What's the other guys on?

Speaker 29 (01:47:48):
Yeah, it was all the rage and I and I
think that's great and I love that kind of folky stell.
This album steps slightly to the side of that, and
I like it because I think it's an evolution of
what they are as musicians and it's pushed them right.
And I think what the sound the sound is here
is that their producer has kind of decided to do

(01:48:09):
something different.

Speaker 19 (01:48:10):
So he watched that doco pena Jackson's Dooco of the Beatles.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Yeah, the long one.

Speaker 19 (01:48:15):
Yeah, yeah, the long.

Speaker 29 (01:48:16):
One, which actually you're weird at our day because you're
watching them, going like what am I watching real people?

Speaker 16 (01:48:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 29 (01:48:22):
Yeah, I kind of almost expect to see actors and
you're like, oh no, wait, this is real studio vibes.
And so he was really Yeah, he was really taken
with that and that whole like just set up a
room to be the studio and just record it like that,
so go almost live, I suppose, yeah, right, And I
think that took these guys somewhere else because they've always
had really big vocals, but they've obviously they've layered them.

(01:48:44):
They've been able to do tracks, right, So you record
a track, you record a track, you record a track,
and you layer it all in. But this type it's
kind of got that more raw just as it is
one guy singing, and I think it leans into that
folky but also it kind of adds this kind of
real rawness and emotive type of way of capturing a song.

Speaker 19 (01:49:04):
Yeah, Like a couple of the songs on this album,
I think that.

Speaker 29 (01:49:08):
The very last song and maybe that one there You're
a Got is like they did kind of two takes
and they're like, yeah, I think that's it, Like leave
that edgy kind of sound about it, and you've sort
of had to run around a studio to capture all
the sounds, and I.

Speaker 19 (01:49:22):
Yeah, I really like it.

Speaker 29 (01:49:23):
Wesley Schultz, he does have that voice, and he said
he's kind of done it on purpose in this album
where he's almost at that breaking point of where his
register can go. So it sounds quite vulnerable and you're
almost expecting him to crack, you know what I mean, like,
which I think again sort of gives you that real
emotive sort of sound to a voice when it's kind
of tension where you're like, I don't know if his

(01:49:44):
voice can go much higher or further than that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Yeah, which I like.

Speaker 29 (01:49:48):
There's something about it that I feel he's really committed
to what he's saying and what he's singing. There's still
that kind of witch that I think the Luminias have had,
Like it's that dry, sort of dark probably humor that
we relate to as Kiwi's it amongst the lyrics. So
still really storytelling kind of songs, but again a bit
more heart on sleeve, not overproduced. One of the big

(01:50:11):
jams that will be quite huge of this album I
think is called slow Burn right. Interestingly enough, it's not
a slow song just the title. It's actually that real upbeat,
fast paced the Lumineu's ho hey almost kind of sound
that you think, and it's really led by the drums
that they've done. First, I've watched a couple of videos

(01:50:34):
of them creating the song and sort of they were.

Speaker 19 (01:50:37):
Really heavy on this this tempo and this beat.

Speaker 29 (01:50:39):
But actually then the beautiful piano playe comes in and
I think that's the thing that brings it all together again,
with him having this amazing voice that kind of goes
over the top. Yeah, lots lots of super catchy tunes,
but then some real simple, pared back so kind of
like some real simple ballads, but then they can go
full anthem at the same time with more of a

(01:50:59):
really emotionally charged, intimate sort of sound to them. I
think that they both really flourished in this kind of
new way of recording and environments.

Speaker 15 (01:51:09):
So there you go.

Speaker 19 (01:51:09):
Everyone's just constantly inspired by the Beatles.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'll leave you
to compare the Luminears with the Beatles.

Speaker 29 (01:51:16):
Making comparison just the recording just I mean, we're not
ever going to be able to get John Lennon pul
McCartney in a room together again.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
But you know, like there's a lot to be said though.
I mean, Creer's always talking about there's like being in
it exposed to new ways of doing things and being
in new spaces. There's something it does to the signapses
or whatever, right that's right.

Speaker 29 (01:51:33):
And just shaking it up that much to also trust
that you're great musicians, that you'll capture something that maybe
is a little more on the edge than what you
were thinking you were going to do with something just
break away from what has become your norm I suppose, yeah,
And I like that the folks storytelling still exists in here.
But there's just something like this album's really stuck to me,

(01:51:54):
and I'm really pleased about that. I wasn't quite sure
where I was going to go with this album.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
But yeah, so do you would you still do you
still call it like indy folk?

Speaker 29 (01:52:05):
I think you can still do indie folks. It's probably
a bit more of a rock sound to it, but
I think they still will probably sit in that genre.
It's so hard, isn't it to capture like people because
they have probably been in that in the folks thing
for a long time. This probably branches them out just
a little bit. And I think that's okay too. Yeah, right,
without completely going like, oh now we've become a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
It's not out of the bath order. Yeah, they're not
stadium rock necessarily just yet.

Speaker 15 (01:52:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:52:27):
And there's some sort of Coldplay influence in the air,
you know, those kind of big anthems that come about.

Speaker 19 (01:52:32):
And the leading voice that sort of sits over the
top of everything. Yeah, so maybe a little bit more
of a pop fusion as well. But yeah, yeah, it's
a really enjoyable listen. I recommend it great.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Okay, that sounds really good. So what did you give it?
Automatic by the Luminaars.

Speaker 19 (01:52:46):
I'm going to give it an eight out of ten.
It feels familiar very quickly.

Speaker 12 (01:52:51):
A lot.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
There's something all with that. I feel like I've scared
you out of getting ten to ten out of tens,
which I never wanted to do.

Speaker 19 (01:53:00):
Maybe it would have to work hard to impress it exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Yeah, Okay, maybe that's it. Maybe that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
It's a good album, Yeah, very good. I'm looking forar
to having a listen. Okay, Automatic by the Luminius is
the album aid out of Tennis Steale cliff At our
music reviewer rerickens it's worth We're gonna have a bit
more of a listen in a few minutes. Right now,
it's nine to twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
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(01:54:10):
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Sounds like half the Tron's turning out for it as well.

(01:54:33):
For now though, thanks to my wonderful producer Libby for
doing all the tough stuff. And we're gonna leave you
with the Luminiars. Their latest album is Automatic and this
is same old song I'll see you next week.

Speaker 25 (01:54:45):
Bease man, is anyone of us gonna make it big
or good? End up down on the pavement? And if
I was today, if the plane went down and you survived,
do you ever wonder what your parents man when they
told you wheredmas in heav Because I don't feel it

(01:55:07):
like I did back then in the black sit down
of the impression and everyone's all right.

Speaker 12 (01:55:14):
I cannot afford to see the light.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
I don't know what's wrong with me.

Speaker 12 (01:55:22):
I killed the mood some now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Truly the guests beginning to make me feel.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
Long same, So we sing this same So we sing
this same, same sad song.

Speaker 24 (01:55:51):
In the brain where the top it's black like a
starving mouth for the years said the.

Speaker 9 (01:55:57):
Boulevard was not that bad, and the jack darbing with.

Speaker 24 (01:56:00):
The instruments in broad daylight. They popped the trunk and
the keys behind the cops, me changing the care. I've
never seen my mom's guitar. I don't know what's wrong

(01:56:20):
with me. I killed and moves so that I truly
a guess, begin to make me feel.

Speaker 9 (01:56:29):
The party has been done for hours away my bathroom time,
smelling all my bets below the throne. Save. So we
sing this same so we seen MI save, save sad,

(01:56:57):
so save, So we seen this where you saying.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
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