Full Show Podcast: 20 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yard and New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks
v Jack Tame with you through to midday today. From
why Mup There to the World? Kayleie Bell has had
an extraordinary rise over the last few years, not just
a ridiculously big rise from the prior to South Canterbury
to the home of country music to how We've been

(01:06):
many gazillion streams. She has really made a name for
herself and she's I mean, the undisputed I think queen
of country music and New Zealand. She's got a brand
new album coming out tomorrow. She's going to be with
us in studio performing today. What a treat, so really
looking forward to that. She's our feature interview after ten
o'clock this morning. We will try and digest that Blackburn's

(01:29):
performance this morning just a little more. In my view,
it was comprehensive. I think I think it's very hard
for any team to overcome four first half tries, but
I think the Canadians were all over them in the end,
we can not really have any major complaints about that,
but we'll get us Sportos thoughts on that, and then
before ten o'clock a little bit of a treat to
kick off the school holidays, a peach and vanilla crumble

(01:51):
slice recipe which we will share very shortly. Right now,
it's eight minutes past nine.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Jack Team.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, for the years that I lived in New York,
I always had visiting Kiwi's and visiting anyone. Really, when
you live in New York, there are lots of visit.
I had anyone, anyone crashing on my couch come up
with a list of the things that they wanted to
do while they were in the city, and more often
than not, when they came to town and you know,
were listing off all the various things top of the rock,

(02:19):
out to the Empire State, those sorts of things. One
of the things I wanted to do in the Big
Apple was to get into the audience at one of
the late night shows. So over the years that I
was there, I went to Lederman, I went to Colbert.
I actually bumped into Jimmy Fallon at his studio when
I interviewed the leader of his band for this very show,

(02:42):
you know, Questlove and the Roots how they are Jimmy
Fallon's band. Well, I went into his studio to interview Questlove.
Quest Love actually spat a piece of tomato on me
accidentally during that into, which was a first. Anyway, That's
where I met Jimmy Fallon as well, bumped into him there.
So that was what just just over a decade ago.
And at that time, late night hosts were more than

(03:05):
just megastars. You know, those shows were institutions. Even with
social media. It sort of felt like their programs or
versions of those late night comedy programs were set to
exist in some form for decades to come. But my,
how quickly things change. Aye. So I like, I love
the US, I love America. But I'll tell you what,

(03:26):
Jimmy Kimmel's suspension just feels like another little moment in
which we're watching a superpower destroy itself in real time.
To be clear, I'm not like a massive Jimmy Kimmel fan.
I mean, he's fine, I guess. I just you know,
like I wouldn't seek him out if I was living
in America. I wouldn't know what time his show aired,

(03:50):
And I thought his comments about Charlie Kirk's assassination were
pretty distasteful, but they were flippant, passing comments, and they
were clearly the opinion of a comedian. And to then
see the head of the Federal Communications Commission, a government agency,
react by threatening broadcasters for airing Jimmy Kimmel's show was
just extraordinary. What did he say? Quote we can do

(04:14):
this the easy way or the hard way. Unquote yesh.
I mean, first, there's the hypocrisy, right, It's only a
few months since Vice President j. D Vance told the
Munich Security Conference this quote. I believe that dismissing people,
dismissing their concerns, or worse yet, shutting down media protects nothing.

(04:34):
In fact, it's the most surefire way to destroy democracy.
You don't say now his government agency is threatening to
remove the broadcasting licenses of companies which broadcast views they
don't like, because nothing honors the memory of a proud
free speech advocate who was literally murdered while speaking by

(04:55):
then suppressing, limiting, and punishing the speech of his critics.
Perhaps even more remarkable, though, is the way in which
these media companies are routinely rolling over and capitulating I
mean on multiple occasions now, big corporates have wilted under
pressure in order to try and curry favor with the

(05:18):
President and protect their business interests. Powermount in CBS capitulated
with his sixty minutes complaint, and then just two weeks
later they fired Stephen Colbert. Personally, I think he was
the best comedian on late night and of course a
frequent brutal critic of the president. And for now at
least Jimmy Kimmel's gone too. It's just interesting to compare

(05:40):
the ways in which media companies have dealt with pressure
from the White House and the ways in which other
countries have dealt with pressure from the US when it
comes to trade tariffs, because if you think about it,
it's actually pretty similar. So instead of organizing a big
collective response grouping together with collective resistance to the pressure,

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the big acronyms in US media, the likes of CBS
and ABC are acting in what they think is their
own self interest in the short term, right, So they
cut a deal and they try to move on. And
whether they're international leaders or media executives, everyone is stooping
to kiss the ring. But I just don't think there's

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any evidence it works. I mean, think about it. If
you give a bully your lunch money, does the bully
then leave you alone in the future or does he
come back for more? See, they think it's in their
self interest to acquiesce. But one capitulation inevitably leads to another,
and then another, and then another. It's snowballs, right, and

(06:46):
before you know it, the President of the United States
is deciding which comedians are allowed on TV. He now
says that some networks that are critical of him should
have their licenses taken away. And like everything, it's hard
to know if he's being hundred percent serious about it, right,
it's hard to know if it's a one hundred percent
serious idea. But the mere suggestion is so profoundly undemocratic,

(07:11):
It is so profoundly un American Jack Team ninety two
is our text number if you want to send us
a message this morning, Jacket Newstalks, dB dot co dot NZ.
I'll tell you what. Feeling a bit glum about the
about the black ferns, But this has been a fantastic
week for New Zealand athletics, Like just such a good week.
It's been the first thing I've been doing every morning

(07:32):
this week getting up and then going on to YouTube
watching the highlights from overnight. Just superb to see Hamish
Kerr Andoradie Beamish getting up. It's a bit of a
golden near for New Zealand athletics as well. So we're
going to ask our spporter about that very shortly as well.
Right now, though it's fourteen minutes past nine, Kevin meln
is here to kick us off for our Saturday Morning
together next this is News Talk's EDB.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with
Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News talksv right.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I thank you for you text this morning, Jack, for once,
I agree with you, says Peter. Or I thank you
Jack kind of agree regarding his comments. But no, Jimmy
Kimmel's not a comedian, he's a political speaker either way.
Nathan doesn't really change anything, does it.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
He might explode if you found out that you can
be arrested for a tweet in the UK, says Ryan. Yeah,
I've been following that. I mean, I think the UK
has gone way too far. I think it's gone way
too far. Ninety two ninety two. If you want to
send us mess that's the text number that just don't
forget if you are sending us a text, that standard
text costs apply. Kevin Milne is with us this morning.

(08:37):
He has, of course, just returned from the UK Kelder
Kevin Adam Marier Koto.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
I've been watching that race of Jordi Beamish, oh yeah,
about ten times, and there's lessons in it for us.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
All.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
If you can just stay with it for about ninety
percent of whatever it is you're trying to do and
then pull out the brilliant effort for the last as
he did about the last fifth ten seconds to win gold,
then that's all we need to do.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
I just keep looking at it and think there are
lessons in this race for all of us.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, I don't know that if I could, like it's
kind of blithe to say, if you can just stick
with the world's best runners for two thousand, eight hundred
meters and as you know, running these like two minute k's,
and then if you can just stick with them for that,
then the last couple of hundred meters. I'm not sure
I'm going to be able to do the first part
of that equation, but you're totally right, like he's he

(09:37):
is amazing, right, because he's the guy with the kick.
He's he's he's the last couple of hundred meters where
he really pushes on. And obviously that that worked out
from this week. It was amazing to see.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
Oh I loved it.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Another thing adolescents, So I see some one all the Emmys.
That's the show that you raved about on this progress.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
It is Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I was pleased to
see that it did well, not surprised to see that
it did so well this week. So fantastic too. Yeah,
you see them, see them recognize. I'm glad that I
wasn't the only one who thought that show was worth something.
But Kevin, like I say, you've just returned from the
UK and you got to meet some fascinating people when
you're in London.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, I just wanted to tell you about some of
the interesting characters that they came across. I had a
few beers of a friend of my son Jake's. His
name was seb He had been working on a TV series,
James May and the Dull Men. Have you seen that
on Tully Jack?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
No, No, I've seen it advertised, but I haven't watched it.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's a worthwhile program. So I think it's
a real blokey kind of a program. Really, it's about
people who become obsessed with silly little things that men
get obsessed with. Anyway, I asked him what his role
was on the show and his response was classic, I
was one of the dull men, keV. I thought it

(10:52):
was a great line. Really said was anything but dull.
As we woofed down several pints. While I was drinking
with Seb, Linda got to meet singer Jake Shears of
the Scissor Sisters, a mate of my other son Alex.
The Cyns and Sisters were doing a concert with the
Pet Shop Boys. We were invited to dinner by another

(11:13):
at one of Alex's friends, Rebecca. I had no idea
what she did, so I was startled when she whispered
across the table I might be meeting Donald Trump when
he comes to London. It was quite a good dinner
party line anyway. Rebecca works for tech Giant Meta, reporting
directly to Mark Zuckerberg. Some huge US UK tech deals

(11:35):
were discuss while Trump was in England. I don't know
whether Rebecca in the end got into that big long
line that Trump talked about where he had to shake
one hundred and fifty ANNs. But maybe she did and
I got to meet mister Bingo Jack.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Have you heard of him? No, he's a brilliant illustrator.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
He worked for The New Yorker, The New York Times,
The Guardian, Time Magazine, etc. Then decided to become mister
Bingo and launch a range of eccentric art projects like
his hate mail. It began when he sent off a
single tweet into the tweet sphere. It read, I will
send a postcard with an offensive message to the first

(12:17):
person who replies to this. Over a thousand abusive postcards later,
mister Bingo is now sending out so many lovingly abusive
messages and drawings around the world he's had to hire
a company to manage the postal side of things. Check
out mister Bingo's website. He's got a fan base in

(12:39):
New Zealand. Actually, he himself's very smart and he's very funny.
But if offensive language offends you may be better not
check out the website.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yes, yes, the key is to reply to one of
his tweets then, but to submit a different address.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yes, yes, you can send her. You didn't send a
card to a friend.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's great to be in
a city like that, you know. You know, obviously the
UK's got its sheer of problems at the moment, but
when you're in a big, vibrant, global city like that,
you are exposed to you know, people who are working
in all sorts of interesting fields or creatives in different places,
aren't you. It is it was what gives those places

(13:22):
the kind of vitality that it gives them their magic.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Well, the guy the doll Man, for example, We're just
sitting there having a few beers with my son and
I said, what are you doing? He said, I used
to work in television, but the program I was working
I'm s finished. And I said what was it? And
and he said so he had been working with the
great James May and and and yeah, and I've seen James.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah. Hey, are you Are you a Kayleie Bell fan
by any chance? Given? You like the country music? Oh okay, well,
even if you're not, you got to stick around because
after ten she's going to perform for us in the studio.
She's amazing, Kevin, Honestly, she's incredible. She was on the
Voice in Australia. But she's had, oh yeah, she's had.
She's she's had a really kind of a diverse career
and she's really driven a lot of it herself actually

(14:13):
as a kind of indie artist. But yeah, she's just
she's got a brand new album. She's gonna be with
us after ten o'clock this morning, Like I said, a
pride of why mattep who I think is the kind
of undisputed queen of New Zealand country music at the moment.
So she's gonna be with us half ten. Stick around
for that because honestly performance, yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
I certainly will be listening to that.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Very good sir, We'll catch again soon. Kevin Milne with
us this morning. Thank you for your messages. Jack. Regarding
Jimmy Kimmel, most comedians are also political and social commentators.
Through humor, they often bring injustice, bring injustices to light.
If Donald Trump has that sort of clout with the
big TV networks, is he honestly any better than the
likes of Vladimir Putin, President she Kim Jong Land, the

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leaders of banana republics around the world. He's tony, I
mean This is the thing. It's just, you know, it's
just does seem very un American. And for those of
you who have written in saying Jack they were going
to cancel Jimmy Kimmel because the show was expensive, I mean, fine,
but I'll just remind you of that quote. We can
do this the easy way or the hard way, said

(15:17):
the head of the feederal agency in charge of handing
out licenses for these networks. I mean, doesn't take a
genius to read between the lines there, does it, Jimmy
says Marie. Jack says Marine. Jimmy Kimmel is a Democrat stooge.
He never criticized anyone on the Democrat Party, and all
the shows I've seen, he never criticized Obama or Biden

(15:37):
or even Carmala Harris. Doesn't matter, Marien, doesn't matter. It's
not who he criticizes, it's whether or not he should
have the right to criticize without the government threatening to
take his TV network off air. But thank you. Ninety
two ninety two is our text number if you want
to send us a message. This morning, twenty five past
nine on Newstalks ZEDV.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks edb.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
When seven minutes past nine on news Talk's head but
you were Jack tame through them ad day on News Talks,
he'd be thirty four to nineteen. The Black Ferns went
down in the Tercanada in the Rugby World Cup semi
final in Bristol. This morning US Sporto Andrew Saville was
watching the game, and sav honestly the best team won
on the day. The Canadians were better almost universally, but

(16:27):
for maybe twenty minutes in the second half, I thought
they are I thought they were more creative. I thought
they were better at the breakdown. We made a lot
of mistakes, and I thought they managed the game extremely well.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Couldn't agree more. Jack.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
On a positive note, it was a fantastic game to watch,
great atmosphere, packed house in Bristol, and it was like
a return to the good old days of rugby where
teams were actually throwing the ball around and moving it
and using width, which the Canadians did really, really well
early on. I think they scored two or three tries
in the first ten to fifteen minutes and that really

(17:00):
put the Black Ferns on the back foot for the
rest of the game. As we've seen recently with the
teams in black jack, we're not good at chasing games
these days, and they were down seventeen nil pretty quickly
the Black Ferns and were really chasing the game the
rest of the match, so that that was the tricky
situation they found themselves in. But I thought the Canadians

(17:22):
were fantastic the amount of ball movement. Instead of this
incessant crashing up of the ball near the ruck and
mountains game and an incessant box kickers we talked about,
there was none of that. The ball was the ball
was hardly kicked it all apart from the chip kit
by the Canadians.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
And then they've.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Got a lock who's the goal kicker and that's another
throwback to the.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
But no.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
I thought it was a fantastic from from from Canada
from the Canadians. But the Black Ferns gave away too
many penalties. Defensively, they were porous. It's been I was
going to say a lot it's.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Going to be.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
I was going to say, it's been a long time
since I've seen team and black jerseys defend so poorly.
But there was Wellington last weekend.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, the way I distinguished it from last weekends, I
felt like the Black Ferns didn't give up. Honestly, I
felt that it almost gave up for twenty minutes ago.
That was what was most painful about last weekend. But
a couple of other observations. You're dead right about the
poorest defense. That's actually what led us down, especially in
that first half, because it just allowed the Canadians to
build on their momentum. But yeah, I think, I just

(18:37):
I just think that across the board in World rugby
that the Black teams aren't as dominant like we're just
we've just seen more kind of in an era where
these other teams are really strong, and honestly, it's probably
a good thing for the game.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
You know, it is good.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
But the concern, Jack is that the Black Ferns have
had a lot of resource pumped into them, whether it's money,
coaching staff, back room staff, what have you. The Canadians
had the crowd fund to get to the World Cup.
That's the worrying concern for New Zealand rugby is that
here's a team with a lot of resource put into it.

(19:14):
Maybe they need more. I mean the England, the English
team has a huge amount of money and resource put
into their women's program. Maybe maybe there's not enough being
put into the women's game here, but they've got the FPC,
the semi pro Opeck Super Rugby that probably needs to
be extended with more games there. But that that is

(19:35):
the concern that this team's had a heck of a
lot of resource put into it. Probably need more games
or needed more games before the World Cup as up.
But there'll have to be a look into where that
money is being spent and how it's being spent once
this team returns home, because because I don't think Jack
a semi final finish is good enough. Yeah, this black

(19:57):
Fern's outfit.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah no, I agree, I totally agree. Hey, let's talk athletics.
What a week. I've just, like I said, getting out
every morning, wat in the highlight, absolutely loving it. I
just think we're sort of this kind of golden era
of New Zealand athletics and it always feels like there's
someone there or there about, you know. Obviously Dame Val

(20:19):
you know, has been pretty amazing the lights of Nick Willis,
but then to see both Jordy Beamish and Hamish kurr
Up atop the podium this week. I think it was
really special and.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
What's what Hamish Kurr is doing is just extraordinary because
high jump jack, it's not one of our great well
attended sports, is it. You know, we don't We don't
breed high jumpers until they're coming out our ears.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
The other thing that's.

Speaker 7 (20:44):
Impressed me when and then Jordy Beamish in the steeple chase.
I mean, it's hard enough running around a bloody track
for three thousand meters lit alone jumping over steeples. It's
a very, very hard running sport. The other thing that's
impressed me Jack during the week is all the focus
seems to have been a lot of it taken away
from the one hundred two hundred meters, which I think

(21:05):
is great, and now we're seeing new stars, like the
men's fifteen hundred final was brilliant, the women's four hundred
meters the other night the second fastest time in history.
So we're seeing a lot of that focus taken away
from the hundred meters, which has always been tard. He
isn't a little bit with the with the drugs brush

(21:25):
and we're seeing these other fantastic athletes. Then you've got
the Planters in the Polvop for goodness, the Mega Star
as well. So no, I think it's and not only
New Zealand, but a lot of other countries are really
having golden eras in track and field as we as
we used to call it, but now Jordi Beamish and
Hamish curve brilliant, brilliant.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Silvil Ferns start this series against South Africa tomorrow evening.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
How are you the last bestian of hoped teams in black.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
And they're saying something if they lose to South Africa,
I think the country will slide into the ocean.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
Look, it's a it's a huge series for these players
because they need to put some convincing performances out on
the court to rectify what has been a shambalic time
the netball.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, no, I totally agree. Be very interesting to see
how that goes down. Thank you, sir Andrew Savil is
our sport O this morning. Thank you for your text.
Marz disagrees with me. Muz reckons that the referee had
a lot to answer for this morning.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I know you've only got one eye coming from Canterby,
but come on, the referee was so one sided. We
couldn't get into the game. I reckon the reason we
couldn't get into the game, muzz was we're almost trying
too hard. Every time we got possession, We'll just make
one pass too many or whatever and then drop the ball.
You know what I mean. It felt like it wasn't
quite It wasn't quite there. You can't build on any
momentum or flow when you're in that kind of situation, Jack,

(22:49):
Where do we watch the athletics highlights? I've just been
watching them on YouTube ten minutes a morning. If you
just search World Championship or World Athletics Championship, they'll pop
right up. I'll put them on my YouTube page as well.
Just search Jack Tame on Facebook rather and I'll put
a link up the so you can see it right
twenty five to ten on New Stalks, he'd be our
film reviewer with her picks for the weekend.

Speaker 10 (23:08):
Next, This is Ray?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Where is my husband? New music? She lost all of
her songwriting notebooks last year. I don't know how, but okay,
maybe there was a fire. Was there a fire? They
were stolen? Libby says they were stolen. Thanks producing Libby.
That's bad. Aim anyway, She's pulled a few tracks from
the depths of her mind though, to bring us this
new one. So that's nice Jack. The women were outplayed,

(23:47):
says being Canada turned up to play New Zealand was
still asleep the better team one on the day. I agree.
Right time to catch up with Francisca Rudkid, our film
reviewer for her picks this weekend killed her.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Let's begin with a movie showing and cinemas at the moment.
This is Splitsville. Please don't say that.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I'm unful.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
No one does, she does.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
Isn't that big as your.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
We're open, we are not mononymous.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Oh okay, little twist there tell us about splits fl Francisca.

Speaker 11 (24:27):
Yes, So I felt like I needed a bit of
a laugh this week, So I took myself off to
my local, my little lido and epsom and sat there
with two other people and I did have a really
good laugh, mostly at a couple of scenes involving goldfish Jack.
And if you've seen splits bul you'll know what I'm
talking about. And I know that sounds a bit odd,
but it was a real got The giggles couldn't stop

(24:48):
giggling laugh, and I think we all need one of those.
I don't know whether you'll laugh at Splitsful or not.
It'll all depend on the mood you're in and whether
you're you're sort of open and available for a bit
of screwball comedy and a bit of fun, a bit
of craziness. I spoke about The Roses recently, which is
also on cinemas. In cinemas, two people, you know, grow
to hate each other and then they sort of been

(25:09):
up with this toxic relationship. This too, is an exploration
of marriage and relationships, but it's a bit more nutty,
it's a bit more bonkers, and it's from the two
guys who brought us another fabulous comedy recently called The Climb,
Michael Angelo Covino and Carl Marvin. And they're going to
getting a name for themselves as these two who are
writing these fabulous comedies, and Covino has directed this, and look,

(25:36):
it's just it's just it's a bit, it's a bit
of everything. There are sort of some quite sweet, sort
of almost you know, lovely moments. There's some outrageous fun,
there's some nudity and craziness. There's some physical comedy. There's
also a fight between these two characters, which is absolutely hilarious.

(25:56):
It goes on and on on and leads to one
of those goldfish scenes. So there's kind of a little
bit of everything. They throw it all at us. This
is kind of one of those films that you think, oh,
this is so refreshing. It hasn't like a studio, hasn't interfered,
and they haven't put it in front of a test screening.
Told them to tidy it up and make it nice. Look,
some of it works, some of it doesn't. But it's

(26:16):
a story of this couple being married for fourteen months.
She suddenly says, actually.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
What am I doing?

Speaker 11 (26:21):
I don't want to settle down. I want to go
and have fun. He pretends that that's absolutely fine, you
go have fun, and they're still sort of living together.
He tells another his best friends Paul and Julie, that
this has happened, and they go, look, you know these
things happen. We have an open marriage, and then everything
kind of their relationships kind of intersect and everything kind
of turns into a little bit of chaos here. So,

(26:43):
as I said, it's they th throw everything at you.
Some of it works, some of it doesn't. But one
of the great things that they did was they got
to Coda Johnson to come in and play Dulie. And
she is fantastic and it's really good fun seeing her
just sort of with a bit more lighter comedic material.
She's absolutely fantastic in themself. So there we go. I've
got alarm.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, very good. It sounds like it sounds like a
good bit bit of fun as well. And I like
the idea that it hasn't been kind of overly produced
by a studio that's you know, test audiencing it too
much and that kind of thing. So that's Splitsville. That's
showing in cinemas right now. Our next film is screening
on Disney Plus. This is Swiped. Young people don't date online.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
If we race through that stepma.

Speaker 8 (27:24):
Suddenly we've got complete market share.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Of on millennial dating.

Speaker 8 (27:27):
And just give me six hundred bucks in a plane
ticket and I will come back with the next fortune
five hundred company with tender.

Speaker 12 (27:34):
I'm swiping right, How do I download it? I want
to see this hi on?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Okay, this is a little bit different. Tell us about
swipe Francisca.

Speaker 11 (27:41):
So this is screening on Disney Plus. It's the unauthorized
biography of Whitney wolf Heard. Lily James plays her and
does a very good job of it. I think probably
the issue here is it is the unauthorized biography. So
Whitney wolf Heard. She was a co founder of Tinder.
She had a relationship with one of her co workers
that didn't work out so well. She leaves Tinder. She

(28:02):
goes on to find to found the popular women's food
stating at Bumble. But she's also very kind of becomes
very well known because she took Tender to court for
or she sewed them for sexual harassment discrimination. So she's
kind of known for those sort of three things. But
she's under a massive NBA, so we you know, she

(28:23):
can't talk, she can't share her story now the can
a lot of other people who.

Speaker 13 (28:27):
Were around it.

Speaker 11 (28:28):
So what they've kind of pulled toget I think this
is a really interesting story. It's an interesting story of
a woman in a very male dominated industry, especially at
a time when it was maybe quite loose, and you
know that that that environment sort of you know, has
a social reputation and often women sort of had to

(28:50):
conform to that culture. So I think there's a really
interesting story here. I think the problem is that they
can't really get to the bottom of what what drove
herd you know what, what her intentions were, the lessons
she learned. So yeah, it's interesting, it's fascinating. Lily James
is great. But I think unfortunately Dan Stevens appears no,

(29:12):
I did not recognize him for a moment. So yeah,
it's glossy and well put together. I just think unfortunately
we can't really get to the truth of the story.
The griedness, you know what, would have made it a
little bit given a little bit more debt.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Okay, all right, So that swiped that is showing on
Disney Plus Splitsville is in cinemas. All of the deats
for those films are up on the news talks HEB website, Newstalks,
heedb dot co dot NZ. Thank you so much, Francisca.
I thank you for your messages this morning as well.
So Dean is a great fan and listener. We really
appreciate his communications. Every week he flicks me an email

(29:48):
and says Jack, good morning. I rarely agree with and
as in rarely as an R A R L Y
rarely agree with what much of the American late night
hosts have to say, but the suppression of Jimmy Kimmel
this week due to the poisonous influence that Donald Trump
is having on the national conversation in the US is
beyond disturbing. Nancy's flipp me an email as well, to say,

(30:11):
Jacket sounds a bit like a Russian copybook. Don't you
think I mean it's just to use the government to
pressure a TV network to cancel a comedian. It's just yeah,
I just think it's so anti democratic and un American.
But to let me know your thoughts, ninety two ninety
two is the text number if you want to see
me a message on that, or you can email me

(30:32):
as well. Don't forget after ten o'clock this morning. If
you can't be bothered leaving the couch This weekend, We've
got our screen Time segment where we recommend three shows
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so we're going to tell you about that. She can honestly,
she's been counting down the minutes for that to hit

(30:52):
the streaming platforms. So we'll give you all the details
very shortly. We're talking food next our cooks with a
very delicious recipe just in time for the school holidays.
Caught it to ten.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Saturday morning with Jack dam keeping the conversation going through
the We again.

Speaker 14 (31:24):
Hope you listen to those words carefully.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Just having a bit of fun with you this morning.
That stone fruit by Soaked Sneaky Wes is our cooksies
with us. Good morning.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
I love it.

Speaker 15 (31:35):
Yeah, a little bit of fruit song.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, yes, I think yeah, if you look at the
words very carefully, I think it might actually be stoned
fruit as opposed to stone fruits.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
So we want to I.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Don't know what you're talking about there, Yeah, I don't
have no idea. Yes, yes, yes, yes, not d stone
for no yet Anyway, we need a peach and vanilla
crumble slice yum. Although I mean, I know we're in
to spring, the heat, and I don't want to get
ahead of ourselves. But have you got fresh peaches?

Speaker 13 (32:06):
No?

Speaker 16 (32:07):
I haven't, But at this time of the year, I
always get ahead of myself. I'm desperate, desperate for the
summer fruit, and so this is the time that I
really rely quite heavily on canned fruit and fruit or
something that I've preserved or something that I've frozen. You're
absolutely right, So because you know you do all that
sort of I freeze a lot of fruit in the summer,

(32:27):
a lot of seasonal stuff that's sort of dropped off,
you know, and I think, oh, oh, save that, and
then summer comes around and it's still in my freezer.

Speaker 15 (32:34):
So about this time I start diving in and go, oh,
what's there. But I guess I was thinking about this
because during the week I read a disturbing story that
a lot of our New Zealand orchards orchardists in the
Bay of Plenty, have had their contracts canceled for supply
or reduced by what is because what are saying that?
You know, they're tinned fruit for New Zealand. Peaches are

(32:55):
on the decline. And I had a look at the
prices and they're about three eighty a can, and you
can buy you can buy fruit for about a dollar
eighty nine. Wow, fruit does not come from New zeal
You know, we have good labor laws where we have
good fruit production, where our fruit is amazing. It hasn't
traveled miles, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
All that.

Speaker 15 (33:13):
So I guess this is a bit of a shout
out to our fruit growers and for all of us
consumers to try, if ever you can, to choose New
Zealand made. It might be a bit more expensive, and
we might wonder why, but it is for all those reasons,
and it's great quality and we do have good label laws,
et cetera in this country. So let's do it. This
is a peach and vanilla crumble slice and it is amazing.

(33:36):
All you need to do is cream two hundred grams
of butter. There goes you budget right there anyway, and
a cup of sugar. That's cheap though, that's good. Okay,
we'll take the wind cream that up till it's nice
and fluffy, and then beat in a nice egg and
a good tablespoon. I mean I always put a teaspoon
in the in the recipes, but really I mean a
tablespoon because you've got to really taste the vanilla in

(33:57):
this one. Mix in two cups of plain flour plus
two teaspoons of baking powder, and you start mixing that
in and you think, oh, this is a lot of
flo and it's never gonna need it. It's never gonna work,
and do I need a bit of milk in there?

Speaker 6 (34:09):
You do not.

Speaker 15 (34:10):
Just keep mixing, mixing, mixing, and it'll come together. And
you want to press all of that mix to your bar,
about half a cup of it into a lined kind
of Swiss rolltin and press it in and so that
it's a nice even base and then scatter over. You're
taking your lovely cand of New Zealand peaches. You've drained
them off. You can use that juice for something else.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Mix it with a.

Speaker 15 (34:30):
Little bit of champagne or prosecco, and mix it with
a little bit of soda water or ice. You chopped
up that fruit and sprinkle that over the base jack,
and then add an extra tablespoon of flour to your
remaining dough ingredients. Mix that together so it's kind of crumbly.
Strew this over the fruit. Love that old word.

Speaker 9 (34:47):
Strew.

Speaker 15 (34:49):
Strew it over the fruit, and dad teaspoonsful of sour
cream all over the top as well. I used about
a third of a cup of sour cream. Bake it
for forty five minutes or until the top is ready golden.
Leave it to cool or eat it warm. You can
slice it into fingers or squares. I made this in
about two seas flat last night, photographed it for you,
and then took it up to a little soiree we

(35:10):
were having here in the community, and I dusted it
with icing sugar and er went down a treat. It
was absolutely beautiful. You know, you can have it with
whipped cream and ice cream, or you can just have
it as a bit of a slice. It's beautiful and
you know that with our canned fruit, it's a winner.
So if you're missing summer fruit, if you're longing for it,

(35:32):
get into it.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Just want queak the appetite, don't you just quit the appetite.

Speaker 15 (35:37):
And not all canned fruits, you know, canned strawberries. I
wouldn't go for canned mushrooms. I'm not a big fan of.
But there's a couple of things black Doris plums, yeah,
and New Zealand peaches. I used to love the New
Zealand apricots too, so those in a can are great.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
How do you feel about a canned light chie?

Speaker 15 (35:55):
Oh well, I ton't love the light che Oh no,
I bet they've got no to perfume for me.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Interesting. Interesting, you're the sime with my wife. She doesn't
like perfume foods.

Speaker 17 (36:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Okay, Hi, fair enough, each to their own. Thank you
so much, Nikki. We will make sure that recipe for
a pitch in Vanilla crumble slice is up on the
news talks. He'db website Jack regarding the Black funds this
morning and regarding funding for the women's game in New Zealand.
It's very old school, but of course Canada has shown
us that you don't need bucket loads of money when
you've got commitment, want and desire. Yes, money might help

(36:31):
his Warwick, but results can come from passion alone. Yeah,
I agree, Warwick. It is pretty amazing right. So if
you haven't been following this, Canada's rugby team have had
a crowd source to fund their World Cup campaign, So
unlike some of the other teams, I mean, England would
be top of the list when it comes to resources
in the women's game, but I think New Zealand would
be would be ahead of the Canadians. Unlike other teams,

(36:54):
they haven't had the kind of, you know, top of
the line resources available to them. They crowdsourced about one
point two million New Zealand dollars, which is impressive in itself,
but still has a drop in the ocean compared to
some of the other the resources available to world rugby teams. Anyway,
they've managed to make it through to the Rugby World
Cup Final. I'm going to be cheering for them in
that final. It'd be an amazing story, wouldn't it, Especially

(37:15):
at Twickenham against the English who came into this tournament
as hot favorites. It would be an extraordinary achievement. Anyway,
thank you for that. Warwick ninety two ninety two. If
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Speaker 1 (37:30):
Giving UV inside scoop on all you need to know
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Speaker 13 (37:39):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I've got a text through here that's got me going,
Moses's Jack. That ranch you had to start the show
this morning just shows how paranoid you are. Who gave
you the inside info that Donald Trump wanted that clown
Jimmy Kimmel fired. I mean, I don't know that it's
inside info. So to be totally clear, the federal agency
that's in charge of issuing TV licenses, the guy who

(38:00):
is the chair of that who was backed by Donald Trump,
came out criticized Kimmel and then said quote, can do
this the easy way or the hard way? So I
don't know. Am I being the paranoid one there? Moz,
thank you for your text. I have more of the master.
Ten o'clock this morning our feature interview of course in
studio performing for US No Less New Zealand Key We
New Zealand Country Music Royalty. Kaylee Bell is going to

(38:24):
be with us. She has had an extraordinary couple of
years from Waymatty to Australia to Nashville, the Homer Country Music.
She's gonna be here with us performing in just a
few minutes. News is Next, though it's almost ten o'clock.
I'm Jack Tamed. This is News Talks edb.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Cranking.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack Team
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Speaker 18 (38:53):
By Toll around Goal through Audio Bama First Dams having
you pulling back?

Speaker 19 (39:01):
Oh yeah, lad is her? Johnny Canty Cray see Cowboy Out.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Kayleie Bell is one of the most exciting and certainly
accomplished voices in New Zealand country music. She's not only
the most extreame female country music artist in Australasia. But
she's got a Country Music Award for Global Country Artists
to her name, collected by Kaylee herself in the home
of the genre, Nashville, Tennessee. Her new album, Cowboy Up,

(39:41):
comes out next Friday, and Kaylee Bell is here with
us this morning. Thank you for being here, Jack Tame.

Speaker 12 (39:46):
It's lovely to be.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Here, lovely to be speaking with you. Cowboy Up is
out this week. How excited are you? How the vibes
at the moment?

Speaker 12 (39:53):
Yeah, I mean just to have a new album is like,
it's one of the most exciting things as an artist
because it means more touring, it means you know, new songs.
New songs are always great to play and to have
fans discover. And yeah, I just feel like we're building
a really cool catalog now of music that we get to,
like I said, get out on the road and play live.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And well there's that other thing too, it's that you've
been working on it for ages. Yeah, and then it's
like you've got a hold about holder back, holder back,
holder back, and then finally the flag dates are released.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
You know.

Speaker 12 (40:22):
I think that's the weird thing is that, like none
of this is like new to me because it's like
you said, like you start working on this stuff like
a year ago. This record was particularly fun to make.
I was about thirty four weeks pregnant when my producer
flew out from Nashville and it actually, yeah, he came
to New Zealand, which was amazing to bring a bit

(40:44):
of Nashville to New Zealand to make the record, and
we just kind of set up at the studio at home,
and I just loved the way we worked. It was
way more collaborative, you know, sort of get up, go
for coffee, come home, spend the day in the studio
at home, and it was really it triggered something in
me that I was like, this is how I want
to make my records now, as opposed to previously, you know,

(41:04):
going to Nashville and it being very very hictic and
you're kind of slotting in with people sort of schedules,
whereas this way, it felt like my producer Tom also
just loved being in New Zealand, you know, around nature.
Just it just felt like such a wholesome way to
make a record.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
So do you think the pregnancy was a component in next?

Speaker 6 (41:22):
I think so.

Speaker 12 (41:24):
I was definitely kind of just working right up till
I couldn't work.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
But it was twenty four weeks is like.

Speaker 12 (41:29):
Yeah, it was like we just got off the kne
Brown tour around Australia and I was kind of getting
to that point where it was like I think enough's
enough now, Like I think I need to sit still,
but my brain doesn't make me sit still. So it
was cool to be able to like just be at
home making a record and just slowing down a little
bit from a body sense, but also just like my

(41:50):
mind still being able to be incredibly engaged in what
we were doing. And yeah, and then all the all
the music was made back in Nashville. The all the
you know, players were Nashville dudes that played on the record,
and it just it just shows how just another way
of how things can be made now, I think is
so cool. You know, nothing like there's no one way anymore.
And that's what I loved about that.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, it's funny when you think about the kind of
origins of country music and then you think about the
ways in which you are like bringing together people from
these disparate parts of the world. Yeah, and then using
technology as well to be able to connect to me,
it's quite amazing. Do you reckon? Do you reckon? The
music that you wrote was different because you were expecting.

Speaker 12 (42:33):
I think, Yeah, there's been a few songs that I've
written since having James and since finding out we were
pregnant that obviously very inspired by him, and that's been
so nice to unlock a different part of who I
am and just see the world a little differently. I guess,
as you know, you know, becoming a parent, it's like
you look at things quite differently. What will their life

(42:54):
look like? What is it like to raise a baby
in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 13 (42:58):
You know?

Speaker 12 (42:59):
So I feel like always kind of trying to grow
as an artist, but just through life you kind of
get forced to grow up, which is nice. So yeah,
there's a song on the record for that period of
time where we found out we were having a baby
and it was a real shock for us. I was
in Nashville and it just wasn't on the it wasn't

(43:19):
on the calling card for me. So it's nice to you,
like I said, show that side of me. And then yeah,
some of the other songs, I wrote one in New
York with a couple of dudes I lived in New
York for a month last year, and yeah, just discovered
what that city is, you know, when you actually lived there,
and it was just like such an exciting time, and
I was like, I need to be writing some songs

(43:40):
while I'm here. Well, I've got this kind of energy.
So there's a few songs from when I was in
New York. And then, like I said, I always love
to write like from the live perspective, because the goal
for me is always to play live and follow like
Shania Twain footsteps ideally one day and play these songs
and stadiums, and so I always loved to have like

(44:00):
just anthems on the record, and I think we've got
a few of those as well.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Yeah, congratulations on James. It is that that is really special.
I think we have babies about the same age we do. Yeah, yeah,
how does it react when you play He loves music.

Speaker 12 (44:15):
For the first six weeks, I know he's got no
choice in this, But for the first six weeks I
just only played Tina Arena. He loves TA and I've
slowly been opening that up to other female Yeah, I
mean he does though. Anytime I put on like a
faith Hill or like just a female like voice, he

(44:36):
like you just see him kind of like yeah, light
up and so yeah, he's very much gonna be. I
just love that he listens to our music. You know,
like there'll be a time where we'll have to, you know,
put on the specific stuff that he likes. But until then,
it's like the radio and a lot of country music,
a lot of nineties and females. I grew up on
a lot of female music.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
So you've got this song with the Wiggles, I do.

Speaker 13 (44:59):
I know.

Speaker 12 (45:00):
I feel like he's going to grow up and think
that it's normal that your mom has.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I feel like I'm just like that one if it
makes you feel any better. You know, baby's only seven
months and we're not trying to let them look at
screens or anything yet. But my wife sent me a
little video the other day of him watching me on TV.
I look confused. I mean, it's like, but you would
just yeah, but hang on a second, yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
How do people in Nashville think about your music? Like,
how do they react when they see a Kiwi girl
from Waymati coming to the kind of homer country music
and performing as you do.

Speaker 12 (45:39):
That's a great question. I feel like Americans love Americans,
if I'm being honest, and so I think there's always
that little bit of like, obviously we have accents when
we speak, but the minute you start singing, it's like gone.
And because I grew up on so much American country,
I sound American when I sing. So I think there's
that little bit of confusion of like, but how does that,

(46:01):
you know, translate to that? So I do get a
little bit of that. I think when people hear my music,
they assume I'm American, right or wrong? You know, Like
I said, that's just how I sing, That's how I
grew up singing. And yeah, I think I really do
feel like we're starting to get to a more global
place with country music. Like country music is a genres,
the fastest growing genre globally, so I think people were

(46:25):
really starting to embrace that. And I've probably seen a
change in the last five years, having gone back and
forth to Nashville, or probably for about fifteen or sixteen
years now, but I've really feel like the last five years,
I've noticed quite a considerable change of people's attitude towards
the fact that you're not from America, and they're embracing
that a.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Lot more because of the kind of global moment.

Speaker 12 (46:46):
I think so in the country is very much mainstream now,
as you know, like you put on the radio station
and you'll get back to back country songs. I mean,
growing up here, I didn't hear any country music of
the radio, and so I think people were just like
really celebrating the fact that it's it's bigger than just American.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yah wants to be country now.

Speaker 12 (47:08):
I was like, please, can you please? Like it's actually wild.
I think anyone that's spent time in Nashville as an artist,
you kind of can't help but fall in love with
the songwriting scene there. It's like I always like, it's
kind of like the respect Rugby gets in New Zealand,
I would say, is the respect that songwriting gets in America,

(47:28):
particularly Nashville. It's people's day to day job. It's their
nine to five. Everyone's chasing a new song every single day.
It can't help but get swept up in that kind
of environment. And so I see why a lot of
these pop artists like each year and and there's been
so many that want to make country records and spend
a lot of time making them, even their albums that

(47:50):
aren't country in Nashville because you can't help but just
be inspired by a town that loves.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
It so much.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
I think it'll be interested for your thoughts. My sense
is that obviously there's the musicality, but I reckon the
storytelling music lyrics is like a really central part of it.
Like story is so central to country music.

Speaker 12 (48:10):
I think that is the thing that differentiates it from pop.
You know, country music has still got a lot of
like pop melodies. Like you look at Keith Urban, He'll
he'll be the first to say that he starts a
lot of his songs with a melody or a groove
or a feel, and he has a lot of pop sensibility.
But then the thing that always brings him back to
country is, as you say, the storytelling. And I don't know,

(48:32):
for whatever reason post COVID, I think people have just
got back to like wanting real stories and like connection
with people. And I think that is why, like country
is a genre is just popping off because it's like
you feel something and you hear about someone else's life
and it can't help but make you feel something whatever
that is.

Speaker 13 (48:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Yeah, So Cowboy Up is out this week. You're going
to be touring. Yeah, James is coming on the road.

Speaker 12 (48:55):
He is coming on the road. He's he's a seasoned pro.
We've taken him a lot of places. He's got a
lot of stamps at his passport at the moment, and
we love having him out with us. My partner is
in my like runs all the behind the scenes of
the band, and so it makes a lot of sceense
having them with us. And I think that's again why
I'm so fortunate to be in a genre like country.
We just have such amazing fans and it's just such

(49:18):
a feel good time. It shows and I'm so happy
to have him there.

Speaker 13 (49:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Well, we're delighted that you've come in to see us.
Thank you so much, and you're going to perform for
us today.

Speaker 12 (49:25):
I'm going to perform my my latest single actually if
that's okay. Yeah, it's a song called the Thing about Us,
Thank You.

Speaker 18 (49:39):
It's a sleeping on a Sudie. It's the walk home,
take the long way, about laughing in the fast and
who's in track of time with you? It's the magic
or the moment. It's a dashboard when it's cloling. Here
we go together, man, we know we're everything is better now. Baby,

(50:02):
that's the thing about such shack kids soon on my
sh long drives. See the way you're looking over your rights,
finding me of something good. Maybe that's the thing about
loose guy's feeding like your blood jeans feels right. Rapt
ben your RITTI. We know this is a forever kind

(50:25):
of love. Maybe that's the thing about us. Maybe that's
the thing about us, because you're reading my mind when
I lost it, keep me on track when I'm off it.

(50:46):
Everybody's looking for we got it the sweetest thing I
ever found.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Baby, that's the thing.

Speaker 18 (50:52):
About sunshine kids sitting on my shoulder, running long drives.
See the way you're looking over your rights, finding me
of something good.

Speaker 12 (51:03):
Maybe that's the thing about.

Speaker 18 (51:05):
Loose guys eating like your blood jeans feels right prap
to being your rip tea. We know this is a
for every kind of love. Maybe that's the thing about us.
Maybe that's a ping about us because we're falling in

(51:29):
seed pad the rup please at the right time. Can't
believe I'm the one that's calling you mine. The thing
about we love you really gotta show up and a
hard times think is never getting better.

Speaker 12 (51:44):
Long nights than can.

Speaker 18 (51:45):
Got aware together, we'll sneak. We know we got something good.
Maybe that's the pay about this, guys.

Speaker 12 (51:54):
Yeah, there's gonna come and go.

Speaker 18 (51:56):
Real life ain't always an easy road. We know this
is are for every kind of love. Maybe that's the
thing about us. Oh ye, baby, that's a thing about us. Baby,
that's a thing about us. Oh baby, that's the thing

(52:22):
about us.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
That was amazing. Thank you, Thanks Check, Oh so good
to have you here. Congratulations on Cowboy Up.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Exciting That is Kelly bell Ah just my heart's singing
right now. That is just really, really really special. Indeed,
we've got all the details for Cowboy Up on the
news Talk he'd be website. The album comes out next Friday,
of course, now before eleven o'clock on News talk'd Be.
We're talking lawns. At that time of the year, you
need to get your a into g when it comes

(52:58):
to tidying up your backyard. Root climb passes our man
in the garden. He's got his top lawn maintenance tips
as well as that Meta. The company that owns Facebook
has just tried to launch a big new product and
one of those big dramatic demonstrations didn't go terribly well.
They had a few technical issues that our texpert will
tell you about very shortly. Right now, it's twenty one

(53:20):
past ten. Your screen time picks for this weekend.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Next, start your weekend off the right way. Saturday Morning
with Jack Team News Talks it B.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Twenty four minutes past ten, Jack. Kaylee Bell has an
incredible voice, so special, Thank you for that. Yeah, Jack,
I'm at a liquid laundromatis Lee thinking surely there are
better things to do today, and then Kaylee Bell comes on. Ah,
I feel my mood sore like a bird. Thank you, Kaylee,
says Lee. Yeah, thank you. Ninety two ninety two. If
you want to send us a text message this morning,

(53:51):
you can email me as well. Of course, Jacket Newstalks
hedb dot co dot z. You should know that by now.
Time to catch up with our screen time expert, Tara
Ward is here with her three picks for shows to
watch your stream this weekend. Hey Tara, a good morning.
Let's begin with the show streaming on Netflix starring Jude
Law and Jason Bateman. Tell us about Black Rabbit.

Speaker 20 (54:12):
Yeah, this is Netflix's latest big name prestige drama. It's
a crime thriller as you say. It's stars Jude Law
and Jason Bateman, who play brothers living in New York.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Jud's Law.

Speaker 20 (54:23):
Jude Law's character Jake is a successful businessman. He owns
a restaurant called Black Rabbit and is kind of this
up and coming man about town. Jason Bateman plays Vince,
who is everything that Jake is not. He is a
criminal and he owes a lot of money to some
dangerous people, and after several months of not talking, Vince
turns up out of the blue, needs his brother's help,

(54:45):
and poll's Jake into the New York criminal underworld to
cover his debts and sort of risks everything that Jake
has built up. Last week I talked about the show Task,
which was pretty dark and gloomy, and this is kind
of similar. Most of it is filmed inside at night,
so it feels about claustrophobic and again has quite a

(55:05):
slow pay. It's very stylish. But I think the thing
here will be whether you like the brothers enough to
care about watching all late episodes. The kind of characters
who are their own worst enemies, so I think it
will depend on how much you sympathize with them. But yeah,
very stylishly made some good tension here. It's a bit
reminiscent of the Beer, you know, set in a restaurant

(55:26):
with some family troubles, but with a bit of dark
crime thrown in for good measure.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Okay, all right, sounds interesting. I certainly love those two actors.
So Bret Do Laura and Jason Bateman in Black Rabbit.
So that's on Netflix on three now. Something completely different,
Tarta Pi.

Speaker 20 (55:44):
Yeah, this is a fantastic new local drama. It started
on three last Tuesday, but it's also streaming on three now.
This is set in more to New Plymouth and it
follows five different people in the hour before a bomb
goes off at a land occupation against a proposed mining scheme.
And there's a few reasons why this show is so good.
The first is that thirty percent of the dialogue is

(56:05):
into the e Maori and it's woven seamlessly through the script.
The second is that it feels very current. The stories
are about politics and issues that everyone will recognize from
the real world, and every episode is one hour long,
so the drama unfolds in real time, and the storytelling
plays with perspectives so that you see the same events
from different points of view, and those five characters that

(56:28):
are caught up in that explosion are all very different.
There's a politician, there's a musician, there's a young dad,
there's a nurse and a police officer. So it's very
clever and layered and thoughtful. Brilliant New Zealand cast in
this as well, including Shevone, Lukity Nikolakawana Jaden Daniels. It's
written and director by Carle mc norton, who lives in Taranaki.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
And what I really liked.

Speaker 20 (56:52):
About it was that this is a drama that feels
very us. It's not trying to replicate an overseas TV show.
It feels very authentic. It's about us and our history
and our stories, and it's taking those issues that we've
see in the news but showing how they affect people
at the heart of those issues. You know, really recommend
this one. They've done a beautiful job on it.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Nice okay and on TV and Z plus Boysone Life,
Death and boy Bands.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (57:18):
This is a three part documentary series that I hooved
down in one sitting last weekend. It is It is
brilliant and I know it's about Boyzone. Please don't think
you have to know anything about Boyzone or even like
Boysoned music to enjoy this documentary, because yeah, it's more
of a nostalgic, quite emotional look back on what it's

(57:41):
like to be in one of the biggest boy bands
in the world and what happens when it all goes wrong.
Boyzone was created in nineteen ninety three. They were going
to be Ireland's answer to take That. They were five
working class boys from Dublin and you know, probably the
most famous as Ronan Keating, and they went on to
have huge global success. They started doing some very cringey things,

(58:03):
just dancing on TV to other people's music, went on
to you know, play in a different different country every night,
and the documentary series talks to the four surviving band
members about how their lives changed and what happened when
the music stopped. And there's a great villain in this too.
Louis Walsh was their manager and he has no regrets
today about the tabloid head lines that he encouraged and fed,

(58:26):
because you know, he was doing his job. Any publicity
was good publicity. So it's a great watch. If you
liked the Robbie Williams documentary or the Beckham doc o.
You know those shows that look back on the nineties
and the two thousands with fresh eyes. You will definitely enjoy.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
This as well.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
All Right, it sounds like a bit of fun Boys,
Own Life, Death and boy Bands. That's on TV and
Z plus Tongua Tapi, the one with Today or Mary
filmed in New Plymouth that is on three now, and
Black Rabbit is on Netflix. All of those shows will
be on the News Talks. He'd be website.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team
on News Talks, edb.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
It turns out we very meet, very nearly missed the track.
So another key week country star has recently released an album.
I think we sort of call a tech country star.
I don't know what Tammy would call herself anyway, It
very nearly slipped us by until our very own music
aficionado slipped us a note to say, guys, you gotta
talk about this. You have to talk about this. It is,

(59:51):
of course, none other than Tammy Nielsen. Fresh from supporting
the likes of Willie Nielsen and Willy Nelson and John
and Bob Dylan. She's just released her new album. It's
called Neon Cowgirl, and that song was Borrowing My Boots,
formed with none other than Kaylee Bell at the Roundhead
Studio Infinity Sessions. Anyway, we're going to have a bit

(01:00:11):
more information for you on that album very shortly. We'll
play a bit of Neon Cowgirl before midday today in
our music segment. Before eleven o'clock, we're going to catch
up with our resident doctor. It's blue September Prostate Cancer
Aweness month, so he's going to take a look at
this that for us very shortly still affects way too
many key we men. So he's got his top tips

(01:00:31):
on making sure that you are getting the regular checks
you need. Twenty seven to eleven on Newstalks, he'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 21 (01:00:41):
It's hard to hide from the number that bad, isn't it.
GDP of zero point nine is not zero point three.
It calls are already up for the Finance Minister's quit.
Sir John Key back with us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I think what you've seen over the last eighteen months,
there's a government that has been working hard to get
the economy straightened up after miss it and heres it,
but it hasn't had a mate in the Reserve Bank.

Speaker 21 (01:00:59):
Nicola Willison's of course, the Finance minister. Could we be
heading for a recession?

Speaker 19 (01:01:03):
In the first three months of this year, we grew
at zero point ninety seen, twice as fast as economists
were forecasting.

Speaker 13 (01:01:09):
So we shouldn't overreact.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
To a bad quarter. We've got to keep.

Speaker 13 (01:01:12):
Playing the full game.

Speaker 21 (01:01:14):
Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Maybe's Real Estate News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Twenty four to eleven on News Talk ZEDB. So Meta,
out of the company that owns Facebook, was trying to
show off their fancy new AI glasses. It's always a
bit dangerous. It's always a bit perilous. There's always an
element of jeopardy when they're doing those live demonstrations of
new products, right because you know that any little mistake
is going to be clipped up and streamed on YouTube.

(01:01:41):
However many gazillion times. Anyway, as you can tell that
all went wrong for Meta. Paul Stenhouse is our text,
but he's got the details.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
Hey Paul, Yeah, are you really happy about this? Because
you know you this is like kind of what happens
on live TV.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
It I feel it. Yeah, yeah, And when you see
you know, when you see a company like Meta, that's
worth about some times at our entire GDP, it's there's
a little bit of shouting forward that comes with it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
There is.

Speaker 16 (01:02:04):
And look, they rehearsed it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:05):
He was Mike Zuckerberg, given see it on stage, He's like,
we rehearsed this. So they were trying to show how
these glasses that have a camera in them, and even
now a screen that's the big new development. This little
screen in the bottom corner can summon the live AI
and help you out when you're cooking, so it can
look at the ingredients and it can help you step

(01:02:26):
by step. And they'd obviously paid this kind of food
content creator guy to come along and be part of
his demos, and you know, they kicked it over to
him and said, go you good things, show us how
it works. And the poor man just stepped there being
like live AI, show me what's next, and then really
long pauses and then like show me what's next. Anyway

(01:02:48):
he made he didn't know how to get out of it,
which is, you know, part of that's the hard thing
when you're like live how do you move on, and
you just blamed the Wi Fi.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
But it wasn't the Wi Fi.

Speaker 10 (01:02:59):
Of course it wasn't the Wi Fi.

Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
But the answer of why it went so wrong was
actually kind of musing. They the the meta CTO kind
of gave them behind the scenes details. And when they
asked the Live AI to do a thing like you
would ask Siri or like you would ask Google, like
you know with the Amazon like your voice assistance, every

(01:03:22):
device in the room heard it and they all tried
to responded exactly the same. So when they were demoing it,
they were doing it with themselves or with like a
couple of other people, and it all went It's why
mugs said, that's always fine. That's because there weren't all
these devices and they had never affected in or thought
about what would happen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
If it's so funny, I mean that's if we if
we were to use the name s I R I
right now, then we would have one hundred thousand phones
around New Zealand or going off at once. I mean
that that is really funny that they hadn't competed.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
Can they tell you something?

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
It is worse because because they were all connected to
the same Wi Fi and Internet. They had set up
a special demo server, and all of those requests went
to the special demo server, which was only expecting to
ever be connected to one device, and so it just capitulated.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
It just melted down, melted technology. A Yeah, like I said,
a little bit of shouting for that, I will admit
to that. Hey, Apple has released its new operating systems,
and you can they're a step closer to this one
operating system to rule them all. So one operating system
that will run your phone, your iPad, and your MacBook.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:04:37):
I put it onto my iPad, the new iPad OS
twenty six, and I thought of you, Jack, and I thought,
how much you want one operating system across all of these?
And I thought, we are getting really really close. If
you've ever used the Mac, in the top left hand corner,
it's got three little kind of traffic light dots.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Yeah, those little traffic light dots have.

Speaker 8 (01:04:58):
Now come to the iPad. The way on the iPad
you can make the windows kind of smaller and drag
them around the screen is much.

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
More like a desktop.

Speaker 8 (01:05:09):
And if you've again ever used the Mac, you know
it's got the bar across the top with the name
of the application and file and edit and view and
that type of thing that's also on the iPad, So
like it really is leaned in in this new OS
to the multitasking piece. And now that they're all running
Apple Silicon and they're all running the same types of chips,

(01:05:29):
developers are now starting to create applications that work across
all of them. This next step that they've taken with
OS twenty six, across all of the operating systems, including
the glasses, all looks the same and feels the same.
It's that glassy thing they've been talking about, and it
really does feel like you're just using a different device,

(01:05:49):
but it all feels so connected for the first time,
it really does feel like one ecosystem. I think, where
maybe only a couple of years. I actually think that's
why they wanted to line up all the numbers, because
they've got iOS twenty six, iPad, the I Watch twenty six.
I think they're just going to call it OS twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, okay, yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Speaker 10 (01:06:12):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Watch the Space, Thank you, sir, Paul Stenhouse is our
text book with us there nineteen to eleven on News Talks,
he'd be We're in the garden very shortly. Next up
Dr Brian Betty on Prostate Awareness Month.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Why no better way to kick off your weekend? Then
with Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News talks at be.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
We are well and truly into the second half of September.
Now I think it's actually almost very nearly spring by
anyone's measure, including our man in the garden. We'll ask
him very shortly. But given it September, it means it
is Prostate Cancer Awareness Month, Blue September. Dr Brian Betty's
with us this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Killed Cuer, Good morning Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
So why is Blue September so important?

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Look, it is incredibly important. It's a campaign that proposs
awareness around prostate cancer and raises money for the Prostate
Cancer Foundation. So men do things like We're Blue. They
get sponsorship for going on run or riding on bikes
or jumping out of aeroplanes, whatever it is. But it's
to raise money. But the key thing about it is
to think about prostate cancer and to talk about it

(01:07:16):
with your GP right now, there's some key reasons for this.
Prostate cancer is one of the commonest cancers in New Zealand,
about four thousand men a year are diagnosed with it,
About one in eight men over a lifetime will develop it,
and more than six hundred men will die a year
from it. So it's incredibly important. And the key thing
here is early detection of prostate cancer can means early

(01:07:40):
treatment and that can sometimes mean cure. The so most
occure of the age of fifty, something that we do
do need to think about and really really important with
this blue setender to think about prostate cancer men.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
So what does the prostate actually do and what are
the things we need to kind of look out for
other than obviously getting regular checkouts.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Yeah, sure, Look, Look it's the Prostate's a gland. It's
about the size of a walnut and it just sits
aro around the outlet to the bladder. So little tube
that leads urine passes through when you go for a
p and it just wraps around that. Now, it produces
fluid for sperms. So it's got a very very specific task.
But as we get older men, As men get older,

(01:08:22):
it naturally increases in size and occasionally cancer can develop
in it. Now if it increases in size, it starts
to produce symptoms. Now those can be like passing urine
a lot, getting a night to go for a P,
feeling suddenly like you need to go to the toilet,
or you notice a weaker urine stream, or when you
go for a P. Now, if you notice any of

(01:08:43):
these symptoms at all, it's really really important you go
to GP and have a chat about it. Because there's
a very very simple blood test we do called a PSA,
and we may do a recular examination as well. But
the PSA if that's slightly elevated, may mean a problem
with prostate cancer and it needs further investigations. So very
very important to take that step.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Okay, I'm thirty eight, so I'm sort of creaking into
what I think we can all agree is probably middle age.
But when should we be getting regular prostate checks if
we don't have any symptoms.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Look, look, the reality is most prostate cancer occurs over
the age of fifty. So look, there is no screening
program in New Zealand for prostate cancer.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
The reason for that is there's no evidence that it
actually does produce results that short that improved outcomes. Although
having said that, there's a very big study going on
in Europe at the moment to see whether it would
be a benefit. However, as a GP, what I generally
recommend my men is from the age of fifty that
you come and have a chat or we get you

(01:09:44):
in to have a chat, and we will do a
PSA check every year from that time onwards, just to
check what's happening with your prostate and if there's any
problem developing. Again, going back to that basic principle that
earlyer you pick up a problem, the more you can
do about it. So look, look, look, look, I think
if you are concerned because you've developed symptoms or you've
reached the age of fifty, please please come along and

(01:10:07):
have a chat with your GP and talk about whether
a prostate check would be right for you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Yeah, and if you do have symptoms, don't delay right,
get on to it quickly. Is the kind of key point.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
I can't stress it enough. You know, symptoms really sort
of say look, you need to jump in and do something.
And look, nine times out of ten there won't be
a problem like prostate cancer. But it's that one time
out of ten that you need to jump onto it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Yeah, all right, Hey, thank you so much, Brian, really
appreciate it. As always, have a great rest, of your
Blue September. So for us check that is doctor Brian Betty,
resident doctor. Hey, after eleven o'clock this morning, we're going
to catch up with our travel correspondent Mike Yardley, who
has been in the thick of it this week. So
if you've been watching the news, you will have noticed

(01:10:51):
there's been an uprising, a revolution of sorts in Nepal. Well,
Mike has been in Katmandu for the last week. He's
been there on the ground experiencing it. So he's going
to be with us after eleven o'clock this morning. I
mean usually he's just pointing out all of the top
tourist sites. I reckon here will have had a additional
experiences over the last seven days or so. We're in
the garden next twelve to eleven on news doorgs 'edb.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Gardling with still Shap's battery system kits get a second
battery half price.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Ten to eleven on news doorgs. He be rude climb
past as our man in the garden.

Speaker 9 (01:11:21):
Hey, Rude, Hey, Jack Hahu, how are you You're going
very well?

Speaker 13 (01:11:27):
Ha?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, I'm very well.

Speaker 13 (01:11:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
I'm impressed that your talking lawns. This morning, because we
have had a few messages people saying, can you get
rude to talk about the lawn? But I know that
deep down philosophically, you're going to say something like lawns
should never exist because they don't exist in nature.

Speaker 9 (01:11:42):
That's about right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
You've heard that before.

Speaker 9 (01:11:44):
I'm sure you. I love it because yeah, yeah, okay,
that's that's true. The crazy thing though, is you know
that this is true actually within the if you like,
the pastoral area, grass grubs have always been an enormous
problems in paddocks and these are these are beetles that
literally can do a lot of image to the grass

(01:12:07):
you know, in the for sheep and cattle and all
that sort of stuff. But what very few people realize
is that the grass grub is actually a New Zealand
native beetlespeak in fact, endemic to New Zealand. It is
our our thing, know that.

Speaker 18 (01:12:26):
So that's number one.

Speaker 9 (01:12:28):
So if you get grass grub in your garden, you'll
find them when you when you do a little bit
of digging in those places which which get yellow and
die up, and you see these c shaped grubs. And
I checked them on the website for you or the
other liby did. I just put them in there, and
that is what they look like, right. But here comes

(01:12:48):
to thing. When we started introducing all these amazing, wonderful,
beautiful important grasses with high nutrients that tastes to the
grass grub as ice like ice cream.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
That is such good that I'm going down.

Speaker 9 (01:13:07):
The hill down below and take the mickey out of
the garden and the people that grow all these the
sheep and things like that, and do the damage there.
It's unbelievable. And people have no idea that they are
actually native.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
So there you are.

Speaker 9 (01:13:22):
Typically yeah, so some of these things will will So
there's there's actually lots of things without say urban grass
grasses if you like, do you get mosses growing in
your grasses? And that is to do with the pH.
You know, if the pH is too low or too high,

(01:13:42):
you get mosses. It's as simple as that. And the
way to actually control those out of your lawn is
either raise the pH or lower the pH after you've
done a test on how how acid they are or
how non acid they are. Basically that's how that works.
Oh my goodness. Now, people that have got troubles with

(01:14:03):
their lawns, I always say, you have to stored them.
If you really want an ice grass lawn, you've got
to restore them. But you do that in autumn, so
that's not the time of the year to do it. Now,
I would wait for six months if you like. You
can also use a ready lawn. It is you know,
it's right, ding ding ding off you go.

Speaker 13 (01:14:25):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:14:25):
And the other one, of course is and this is
what they quite often do at schools, you get these
artificial grass. Yeah, I think, I think, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Really, how does that go down on the clodbust household.

Speaker 9 (01:14:40):
Like a ton of nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
There you go, so there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:14:43):
So that honestly, that's it's so here's the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
So we have a wee lawn. It's not not messive
or anything. And we have lots of the important important
piste spaces. So we have a lot of pastel and
a lot of cou you cocku you yeah, and yeah.
The problem is that. And I think they're quite good
when there's low moisture, like they seem to do very
well when the rest of the lawn's not doing so well.

(01:15:09):
And I'm not someone who you know, spends hours looking
after the lawn or anything, but the reason I don't
like those. In particular is that if I'm just playing
a bit of like backyard cricket or something with the
eight year old, often the ball will hit it and
like go off on a weird angle and stuff like.
It actually disrupts the kind of pla the reason we
have the lawn. But I mean, that's a bit of

(01:15:30):
an effort, right to get that stuff out of there.
You just you're almost better just to start.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Again, exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:15:37):
But cocuus is a really really what do you call it,
aggressive weed if you like, and it goes into your borders,
it goes all to decide And I remember that when
I lived in Lango and Tiki rung in place slug
that we had it all over the place and I
just had to spade it into into straight lines again
to make sure it doesn't go to the to the
nice borders, because then I'll hear from Julie, of course,

(01:15:59):
and then I can't sleep, and you know how it works. Yeah, yeah,
so that's exactly that's exactly how that is. But on
the other hand, you can get rid of it and
start again, hoping that you haven't left any cocoon in
there around there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Gold I just feel like I feel like the moment
I get rid of it, first of all, it's going
to take me a year to get rid of it.
Like I'll be out there every you know, every Saturday afternoon,
listen to weekend sport, on my hands and knees, digging away,
and then you just know that by nick Saturday, it's
all going to be back, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
Yeah, But the way I have a lawn is easy.

Speaker 9 (01:16:31):
You have a lawn with an enormous amount, let everything grow,
wonderful plants, flowers, everything, and then all you do with
your lawn mower is you make these lovely meandering little
bits and pieces through there. That's going to be your
path and the rest will be all your flowers. You
add to the biodiversity. Everybody lives there, everybody happy. That

(01:16:51):
is what the lawn should be about.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Yeah, nice, Okay, Hey, thank you so much. Yeah, we'll
put all your advice and the photo of that grub
up on the news talks with so wrong can have
a look. Thank you so much for catching in next week,
rude time pass in the garden for us this morning
after eleven o'clock on news Talk Seed B, We've got
our book segment for this week where our book reviewer
recommends a couple of good reads. She's got the latest

(01:17:14):
from mckherron. You know, he's the guy who has written
the series behind Slow Horses, that amazing Apple TV series.
I honestly Recoon. It's my favorite TV series at the moment.
I mean it's probably one of those things that's going
to go on a few two seasons many Anyway, mc
hierron has just released his latest book. It's called clown Town.
So she's going to tell us about that as well
as that our sustainability expert is in with her advice

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on sustainable pet ownership. So she will be with us
very shortly. It is just coming up to eleven o'clock
though it's almost news time on news Talk Seed B.
I'm Jack Tame see you very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through
the weekend news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
He'd be, good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Morning, Gilda, if you're just joining us, it is so
good to have your company, Jack Taye with you through
to twelve o'clock on news talks, he'd be, we're getting
very country this morning. I feel like we have actually
been getting country for a week while you know, country
music is going through a bit of a moment at
the moment, isn't it. And this morning we are celebrating
all things Kiwi country. So Kaylee Bell performed in studio

(01:19:01):
and what a treat that was. If you are missed
out on that performance, honestly, so good to newsbork' zdb
dot cod on MZ you be able to listen to
it there before midday, We're going to have a listen
to neonw Neon Cowgirl. That's the latest album from Tammy Nilson.
She says it takes her all the way back to Nashville, Tennessee.
She's kind of a kind of lifelong dream of chasing

(01:19:23):
Nashville and country music there. So she's put out this
brand new album and your Neon Cowgirl, from what I've heard,
does sound really interesting. So we're going to choose a
couple of great tracks from that and play that before
midday as well as that. Of course, we've got our
book picks for this weekend. If you're just feeling like
curling up, it's a bit chilly your place, that cold
front is sweeping through. No drama. Our book reviewer has

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two fantastic recommendations that she's going to share very shortly.
Right now, it's eight minutes past eleven, Jack dam How.
Sustainability commentator Kate Hall is focusing on a bit of
a curious subject this weekend, sustainable pet ownership, and Kate's
with us this morning, kild good morning. Do you know
at first, Blush, I would have thought that being a

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pet owner having a pet isn't a very sustainable thing
to do.

Speaker 22 (01:20:11):
Mamma Ride, You are right, depending on how you do
it right, It's just like with everything. Yeah, it depends
on how you're going to manage their care, how you
know where you're going to buy things from, and also
depends on what type of lifestyle you have and where
you live in the world. Yes, the nuanced complex thing.

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I have written a blog before called why you Shouldn't
own a pet?

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Do you own a pet?

Speaker 22 (01:20:42):
I currently have a cockatail who lives somewhere else with
someone else, and I would never recommend anyone to get
a bird. Yeah, yes, he's eighteen years old.

Speaker 10 (01:20:59):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Yeah, but don't like some parents live till they're like fifty,
don't I.

Speaker 22 (01:21:04):
Yes, yeah, yep, he's a cockatail. Their average life than
is around twenty to twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
So, oh my gosh, it's a commitment being.

Speaker 22 (01:21:11):
With me over half yeah, well over half my oh
my life. So I love, I adore animals like they're
a huge part of my life. But I think there's
different ways that we need to really focus on, not
just thinking about the waste that they produce, but also
just are we get up to have an animal and
for it to thrive. We just overlooked the opportunity to

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do things like dog share and you know, like kind
of share animals and gives them a much better life
rather than them staying at home for fa in an apartment.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Yeah that's a very good point. Okay, so let's talk
through some of your top tips for sustainable pet ownership.
Number one, choosing pet food.

Speaker 22 (01:21:51):
Yes, so not all pet food is created equally obviously,
so consider brands that use things like the byproducts of
an animal or just general sustainable protein sources. When I
had a dog, I said him feed my third Baby,
which is a really great New Zealand brand, And that's
what I found to be the most sustainable option here

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in New Zealand. I'm not so sure about, but even
asking you can ask you a bit. I mean, my
dad is a very sustainable vet. He's a good one
to talk to. But if you ask those questions, they
should be able to answer them because you know they're
You're a customer and you're able to ask those things.
So thinking about what you give them. I know that

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one of my friends has a little gryffin and the
griffin basically eats a whole lot of possum meat from
the possums that are caught in the wild forest place.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
So that's quite a good idea. Yeah, I mean not
to do yea, that is quite a good idea. Okay,
I know that before you have surprised and delighted us
with your description for what you do with dog poo,
which involves a jar, which is very eco friendly. But
if we're one hundred percent honest, probably a bit further
than most people will go. Yeah, so what else can

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you do?

Speaker 22 (01:23:06):
So reusing things like if you have a bread bag,
you know, pacic bread bags or chip packers or something
like that, if that's already going in the bin, then
using that as a great solution. Also, you know free
it's rubbish. You can do things like a hole in
your garden if you do have a garden and use

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that kind of as a little dog poop compost so
that you're not just putting a whold of poop in
the bin, which is not ideal. My mum uses compossible
dog poo bags, but she double uses them, so she
kind of gets a lot of use out of them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
So she doesn't double bags. She uses them once and
then she uses them again.

Speaker 22 (01:23:51):
So when I know that there's a bag, I always
have to ask her is this one being used? So
I don't use the wrong side.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Yeah, I was going to say that it feels like
it's dangerous.

Speaker 22 (01:24:00):
Territory, but she does it very well and very hygenically,
and so I think that's awesome. Tools just simple things
like that mean that you're just you know, you can
find your.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Waist it you want to make sure if you your mum,
don't you that you're not there's not too much of
a break between drinks because because because you know, they
start to compost quite quickly, the moment they're exposed to moisture,
are they start to compost quite quickly, I feel like that's, yeah,
that's your Mum's a brave.

Speaker 22 (01:24:25):
One than I would be walking twice a day.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Yeah right, okay, yeah, and the breed bag is a
good one. My dad walks the dog and this is
going to be a disgusting need limits for everyone, but
he loves to get a breed bag out, scoop up
whatever needs to scoop up, and then he ties it
to the back of his backpack as he walks, and
so as he sort of trots from side to side,
it swings as he's walking, which is just like absolutely

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disgusting and so embarrassing as kids, but very sustainable, you know.

Speaker 22 (01:24:55):
Yeah, that's brilliant. We should all be more like them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Yeah, anyway, what about like crates and clothes and coats,
the doll little booties.

Speaker 19 (01:25:07):
Things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Yeah, there's so much pete stuff you can buy these days,
I suppose hand Marketay.

Speaker 22 (01:25:13):
There are a huge second hand markets for dogs and cats.
When we had a dog, I genuinely never bought any
of that stuff new because there was just so much
out there on trade, meet face, the marketplace. Even if
you just mentioned to a friend, they probably have an
old crate that's wrapped them in their garage, So you

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really really don't need to buy anything new, even the toys.
I made it like tag awad toy out of old
clothes and underwear, and same with the dogs there. Dogiges
can be you know, hundreds of dollars and we had
some cool sustainual beds New Zealand made out there. But
you can just cut up your old clothes and use
it to stuff, you know, kind of a big cushion thing. So,

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I mean, I know people want the best of their
animals and it can be tempting. I want to buy
all the fancy things, but the secondhand stuff can be
it's just good, you know, it's not better and make
your money stretch a lot further.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
Yeah, that's a great message. And I think a really
obvious thing that has often overlooked is just to consider
the impact that your peter is having on the environment.
This is the thing with cats, Like it just kills
me when I see a cat roaming free without a
bell or anything like that, because I'm like, you know,
like think of all of the native birds we have
here and even callanders. They don't want to see the

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cat bringing it home birds and stuff, you know.

Speaker 22 (01:26:35):
No, So yeah, it's again thinking about in my situation,
can I maybe you know, I know a lot of
people who really hear about the environments and have lots
of beautiful native birds around and so their cats indoor
cat and you know, choosing a species that is going
to be okay with that, and just really considering your situation,

(01:26:56):
because I think we can get quite selfish when it
comes to pets and we can forget that actually an
animal has certain needs and if you can't meet them
here in New Zealand or yeah, just in your kind
of usual lifestyle set up, in your work demands, it's
cobly best that you asked to walk your neighbor's dog,
you know, or do something like that. Like for us,

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we don't have a dog anymore and we kind of
co own in a way my parents' dogs, and it just, yeah,
it makes it so so much better. And the little
things when you're walking along the beach and you see
corn off faces for different protected birds, actually listening to
those rather than thinking, oh, my dog doesn't chase birds,

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like putting your dogs on a lead. That's so so important.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Absolutely, I think so much. Kate really appreciate it. Kate
Hall is our sustainability commentator. You can find her on
social media just search Ethically Kate and her smiling face
will pop right up, no doubt and a couple of minutes.
Our travel correspondent has had an adventurous week, to say
the least. It would be adventurous to go to cat
Man Do in the calmest of times, but this has

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not been a week. In Nepal, They've had a revolution,
and Mike Yardley has had a front seat. Sixteen past eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Travel with Windy WU Tours Where the world is yours
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Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Mike Yardley is our travel correspondent. Our Saturday morning's Good
morning sir, Good morning Jack. Oh it's so good to
hear your voice. I thought this morning, you know, I
thought it's gonna we're gonna have to flip a coin
to see whether or not, given all of the events
in Nepal this week, we would be coming through to us.
But fantastic to hear you're doing okay. Just to just
talk to us, first of all about your personal safety.

(01:28:40):
You've had no issues over the last week or.

Speaker 6 (01:28:42):
So, none whatsoever. I come to you without a flak jacket.
It's been the most extraordinary week or so in Nepal,
and I arrived what last Saturday, exactly this time last week,
I was just about to arrive. I was at chinga
airport when I spoke to you. Yeah, and I just

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think back to, you know, the old saying about a
week in politics is a long time man alive. What
a week in Katmand They've gone from like forty eight
hours of gen Z protests that turned to rioting, violence,
mass death, mass destruction, to a state of an interim

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government with a curfew which lasted about forty eight hours.
Then too the fruition of a new dawn of peace
came stability. I just it was a headspinner last week.
So what a lightning fast revolution. I don't know if
the world seen one so quick.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Yeah, it was crazy, right, just to see how much
things have changed. So just to be totally clear, the
situation now we you as okay, the situation in capt
Man do is okay?

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:29:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, very much. The curfew was lifted last
Saturday night. So I know that everyone I spoke to
when I arrived in Captain and that were really concerned
about the impact obviously it was having on tourism, which is,
as you know, jack massive money spinner for the country.
So they were all really anxious to try and convince

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me that no, please tell people to come here. And
I have to say there was absolutely no problems at
all while I was there in Nepal, and it was
like people had just dusted themselves off and got on
it with the fresh start with a new prime minister.
I mean, the corrupt old government has just been clear out.

(01:30:33):
It's just extraordinary the way it was done. I mean,
the one thing you do notice when I was there is, yeah,
a lot of buildings have been scorched, badly damaged, destroyed,
police stations just raised, and yeah, a lot of debris
on the road. But they were dealing to that real
fast while we were walking around, and the major major

(01:30:54):
tourist areas were not actually affected. It was, you know,
very much like the political heart of Camp Mando, where
the focus was put by the protesters. But it was
interesting that, you know, some of the cronies it's to
the old government, they were targeted as well as like
the Hilton Hotel, massive hotels out of action because there
was delt too, because it was seen that's been way

(01:31:15):
too close to the crew up side of the old government.
So yeah, amazing time.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Yeah, Oh gosh, well I'm glad that eurokam glad that
things are a bit calmer, and I always think it's
amazing to travel to an interesting place an interesting time.
You know, you know, there's a real I mean, obviously
it's a little bit ropy, but there's a real kind
of privilege in it as well to be there and
to experience history as you have. So anyway, when you
were planning your Nepaul adventure, I'm sure top of the

(01:31:42):
list was Everest. So in contrast of to doing a hilaria,
what are the easiest ways to see a Mount Everest?

Speaker 6 (01:31:50):
Yeah, a lot of people jack will loped for flight
to seeing a little scenic flight from kat Naandu. Although
to be honest, Paul has a pretty average safety record
when it comes to small playtons, so I was dubious
about that I didn't do it. Option two you can
take this incredible cable car ride just out of Katmandu

(01:32:12):
to Chandragiri Hill. It was closed when I was the
hill last week because the base station had been torched
by the protesters because they were seeing as cronies.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Of the old government.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:32:25):
Option three and I would have to say this is
the best of the lot. Is to really appreciate the
vastness of Nepal's high mountain ranges. You've got to head
an hour out of town to Nagakot, So this is
about twenty one hundred meters high and you do notice
the temperature change straight away. But the thing about Nagacot

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in that high country area is you just get the
most stirring panoramic views of all of the Himalayan ranges.
There are eight Himalayan ranges, so you will see lang
Tang Range, on Napurna Range and Everest Range, and that
really is a sublime sunrise spot. To increase chances of

(01:33:07):
seeing the sunrise over Everest December January prime viewing time,
it's still very cloudy at this time of year, but
amazing countryside out there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
So basically you need a clear, unique clear skies in
order to be able to see it from there, right,
And I suppose the only other is to is to
just you know it, yeah exactly, just boot up yourself,
make your way to base camp, start doing a few
missions up. Yeah, right, so it would be you Jack, Yeah,
I'm not sure my wife would be too pleased about it.
So if you're rising up from the Katmandu Valley, are

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the mountain villages suitable for hiking.

Speaker 6 (01:33:41):
Oh this was my highlight totally.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:33:43):
So from Nagakot, you've just got this cobweb of incredible
high country trails to strike out on, and they sort of, yeah,
stitch together all these little mountain villages where time has
stood still, and you just like walk through these villagers
and all the goats come sort of charging after you.

(01:34:05):
You just see sort of Nepal free spring. It is
just gorgeous, gentle, innocent, but it's quite funny though. There
are an enterprising lot. A lot of the kids in
the mountain villages are that, oh those those tourists, they
seem to have money. So I was sort of like
set up little women promptu craft stalls so that they

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can try and prise a few dollars out of you.
But yeah, it is just the most magnificent area for
a walk. And in the last couple of years they've
opened up this two hundred and fifty meter long suspension bridge,
the Running Jeweler Bridge. It is the most incredible sorry
it's swing bridge, not suspension bridge. Swing bridge, So just
the most am messive bridge to walk across high above

(01:34:51):
the forest in the Nagga court countryside. I just love
that area so you can spendleed Abia.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Yeah, it sounds, it sounds amazing. Did you find that
altitude issue, because that's just over two thousand meters you
seed right, So was that you're passing us or not
too bad?

Speaker 6 (01:35:05):
Surprisingly I found and it's absolutely fine, no problems at all.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
I think it's about three thousand when they say that
that's the when the very toness can start to get gain. Yes, yes,
should be all right. But yeah, so back in town,
where should you focus your sight seeing?

Speaker 6 (01:35:19):
Yeah, well too areas that were not affected at all
by the protests. Duba Square is the big show stopper
the Central Nepal's commercial and political activity for centuries prior
to say, the last century or so. So this is
where you will find those fifty temples, and they Hindu

(01:35:40):
the Buddhist temples. They stretch back about eight hundred years.
I just love the fact that they all look like
wedding cakes and with the most ridiculous number of tears.
So there are like nine tiered temples. They are all
built out of wood, so that's truly magnificent to wander around.
And tamil Is that is the main sort of tourist district.

(01:36:01):
So whether you're looking for a Tibetan singing bowl, jack
taine or a mountain and gear or the street food,
I would say tamel is where you should really tuck
into urban Catman Do.

Speaker 10 (01:36:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Nice. How's the street food?

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
I absolutely loved it. It can be a little bit
dubious when it comes to hygien I would have to say.

Speaker 13 (01:36:24):
But.

Speaker 6 (01:36:30):
That's the key.

Speaker 4 (01:36:30):
You're right.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
A couple of things I would would really recommend to
check out if you're there, chat pat, which are these
flavorful balls of like puffed rice with vegetables and spices
that crunchy, that ting either really good. They drinks, Oh
you know, I know you're a fan of sugar canejuice.
They do the most amazing freshly pressed sugar cane juice

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is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:36:55):
And the Lassie. The Lassie is sort of like the
smoke smooth sweet yogurt come condensed milk drink, which is
topped with dried fruits. It's so calling on a hot
day in cat Man Do. And if you're partial to dumplings,
look out momos. Momos are like tinder dumplings packed with vegetables,
light and savory and if you want something really hearty.

(01:37:16):
And this is something I checked out a Nugga court.
The Mountain noodle soup is called fuck Pa and it's
got chicken and egg and vegetables, very narishing. It's like
the ultimate Nipolese comfort food. So yeah, lots of really
nice treats to entertain the mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Oh so good. Oh man, Yeah that does sound amazing.
I've had a few momos over the years, some everyday food.
Your momo is it? But yeah, yeah, yeah, combined with
a bit of a lassie or something like that, sounds
like a tree. Hey, thank you so much, Mike. We're
glad that you're safe. We're glad you've had an adventure.
And yeah, I'm burning with envy because cat Mander is
certainly a part of the world. I'd like to visit
at some point as well.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
Good stuff, man, Yeah, don't hesitate to go. The people
are lovely, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Mike Hardley with us this morning. He's our travel correspondent.
Before midday on news Storks, he'd be We're gonna listen
to Neon Cowboy saying Cowboy Neon Cowgirl, cow Girl, the
latest album Tammy Nielson. We've got your book picks for
the weekend too. But next up Jason Pines counting down
to weekend sport on Newstalk's EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on Newstalk's EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
I'm from you have a double shout of whiskey.

Speaker 9 (01:38:25):
They down's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
There's a party downtown.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Your future everybody had bind Ah, here's a grim image. Oh,
so you know how I was telling you. We were
talking sustainable pet ownership. I was explaining how my father,
rather embarrassingly for the rest of us, when he's walking
the dog, he takes a breard bag, and then when
the dog does its thing on the side of the road,

(01:38:51):
he scoops it up on the bread bag, and then
he attaches that bag to the back of his backpack
with a peg like a clothes peg, so that when
he walks along alongside the dog for the remainder of
his walk, he sort of has you know what, hanging
in a bag swinging with each step from the back
of his backpack. Anyway, it turns out he's not the

(01:39:11):
only one.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Not long ago, I was following a car on the
open road and spotted a green bag swinging around tied
to the rear window wiper. Upon closer inspection, it dawned
on me that yes, it was a full dog pooh bag.
Within two minutes of realizing that the bag came loose
and exploded on the road at one hundred kilometers an hour.
That is grim. Indeed, there's a lesson, isn't it. Make

(01:39:36):
sure that if you are tying your bag of your
dog's business, you tie it nice and tight. Right twenty
seven to twelve on news Talks, you'd beat Weekend Sport
right after midday, of course, hosted by Jason p and
Poney's going to be speaking with Alan Bunting, the coach
of the Black Ferns, after that disappointing result this morning.
My take, Piney, is that they were soundly beaten by

(01:39:56):
the better team.

Speaker 17 (01:39:57):
That's my take, A good take. It's a good take. Yeah,
it's an accurate take. They were, and I think they'll
freely admit that. And I would say that that's exactly
what Alan Bunting will say when we chat to him
after midday. He'll, i'm sure, be disappointed with a number
of errors that New Zealand made. But in many ways.
They were forced by the pressure of Canada. They man,
they were such a good side, so impressive, the pace

(01:40:19):
that they came out with, the intent, you know, they're
tackling the way they snuffed us out out wide. You
know where poor sherwoodman Wickcliffe and Braxton, Sorrens and McGee
have been so effective. They just didn't get any space.
And by the time they tried to come through the
middle of the second half, they're chasing the scoreboards. So look,
it was a master class displayed by Canada. So looking
forward to breaking it down. What I did love, though, Jack,

(01:40:40):
was this game where are all the box kicks? I
didn't recognize it. I didn't recognize Rugby.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
How refreshing, how incredibly refreshing. Also, I mean maybe I'm
being a bit harsh here, but they also like it
sounds tripe, but they didn't give up. I mean they
were down what thirty one seven at one point, and
I was like, oh gee, this is going to be
a true humiliation. But unlike a certain team's performance in
the second half last week, where I sort of felt

(01:41:06):
like we kind of threw in the towel a little bit,
I you know, there was there was a little moment
in that second half when I thought, man, could this
be possible? Could they make he worked their way back
into it. They had a bit of momentum for the
first time in the game. But no, I mean the
Canadians managed it incredibly well. Then look, Alan Buntings, he's
you know, he's pretty straight up, isn't he. So it'll
be really good to hear his thoughts on weekend Sport

(01:41:28):
this afternoon.

Speaker 17 (01:41:28):
Yeah, one thing this team doesn't like his heart. You're right,
you know, they were still going right at the end,
and that's that's base level for anybody who plays for
New Zealand, I think, in any sports. So yeah, I'll
be interesting to hear from Ellen Bunting a bit later
on Les Elder, who captained the side of course and
won the World Cop in twenty seventeen. She's been part
of the television analysis and keen to hear her thoughts,
but keen to hear from obviously. How is it the

(01:41:50):
audience as well? Like I was, I think I was
more nervous in this game than I was watching the
All Blacks last Yeah, I just because there's more on
the line. I expect them to win. They were behind,
the comebacks coming, the comebacks coming, and it never really came.
But yeah, well we'll yearn some rugby after mid day.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
Yeah, very good. What are you made of the World
Athletic Champs this week?

Speaker 17 (01:42:08):
Loved it apps, I love track and field.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
It's just some primal score but you know, like how
far can you jump? How high can you jump? How
fast can you run? Like just how far can you throw?
Like just trip it back? It's really simple.

Speaker 17 (01:42:22):
Yeah, helpful too with with the kiwi Jeordie Beamas. You
know Hamishkurgie, what a what a great New Zealand of
that manner is you know winning winning a high jump gold?

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Beamish?

Speaker 13 (01:42:33):
Was?

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
That was?

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
That was unexpected.

Speaker 17 (01:42:34):
I think everyone thought Hamish curR would be there or thereabouts,
having been a little bit champion but beamish. But then
this morning Noah Larles winning the two hundred meters.

Speaker 6 (01:42:41):
Man.

Speaker 17 (01:42:42):
I just love the theater of it all. And look
got another couple of kiwis involved still to come. I
see Tory Peters is through to the Tory Morby as
she is now is through the final of them. At
women's javelin, Maddy Wishy and the women's shop qualifying. This
afternoon Connor Bell and Men's discuss qualifying, So there could
be more to come.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
Yeah, Oh it's so good. Yeah, Honestly every morning I've
been getting up and watching those highlights and absolutely it's
just awesome. It's great to see, all right, So looking
forward to the afternoon.

Speaker 10 (01:43:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
Jason Pine, the host of Weekends Sport.

Speaker 10 (01:43:09):
He'll be back with.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Us, of course, right after the midday news on News Talks.
He'd be coming up that new music from Tammy Nielson
Neon Cowgirl is her new album. Right now, it's twenty
three to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News talks 'B.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Twenty to twelve. Time to get your book picks for
this weekend. Katherine Rains as our book reviewer. Good morning,
morning Jack. Let's begin this morning with The Secret Book
Society by Madeline Martin.

Speaker 23 (01:43:37):
So this is a historical novel set in eighteen ninety
five Victorian London, and it's about a forbidden book club
and the dangerous secrets and the woman who dare to
kind of break the societal rules. And the book almost
starts at the end, which is always an interesting way
to start, and you have this woman called Lady Duxbury
and she finds out that a friend's been sent to

(01:43:58):
asylum by her husband. But then we go back to
the start and she started this Lady's Tea to assist
woman in society has been restricted by the controlling men
in their lives, and she offers them access to her library,
as most women are forbidden from reading fictional novels and
things to improve themselves. And these women age from their
late teens on and they receive invitations at their homes.

(01:44:20):
So people like Rosie Wharton and live in their Cavendish
and ellenor Clark get these invitations and they jump at
the chance, and you know, it's allowing them to really
be theirselves and drop the false pretenses, able to read
what they want because Lady Dutchby's given them the ability
and understand how difficult their lives have been. And it's
a really interesting portrayal of their life during the eighteen hundreds,

(01:44:43):
and that detail and the dialogue really makes you feel
like you're there. But also how the upper kind of
parts of society were treated in their marriage and the
controlling and you know, and these women didn't you know,
women who didn't conform were often sense to the same
asylums or mental institutions. And so what you've got is
this book about friendship and caring and kindness. It's really

(01:45:04):
a comparative narrative of the time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Yeah, great, Okay, that's the secret book. Society My Bent
by Madeline Martin now mhern is back. He is the
author of the slough House series, which is the series
that's inspired Slow Horses at Amazing TV show. He's got
a new book called clown Town.

Speaker 23 (01:45:21):
So yes, if you're a fan of slow Horses, then
you'll love this book. So we're at slow House and
there's a bunch of spies have been sent there because
they've blotted their copy books Catterin Stanish and River Cartwright
and Roddy Hole a part of that, and River Cartlit
has been poisoned with nather chopped by the Russians. And
he's hoping to return to work soon and he's waiting
for his medical assessment, but at the time he's kind

(01:45:42):
of need something to do. So he's taken on his
grandfather's extensive library and he's transferring the information to the
Spies College. And one item's missing, one book and he
can't find it, but he knows that it's there because
he's seen a photo taken on his phone. And it
transpires that it's not a book but a dummy book
disguised as a book and which secrets can be hidden,

(01:46:03):
and now someone else has it, and you know, secrets
that were important for his grandfather to hide, and that
kind of starts him down on this really interesting mystery.
And then in another tangent, there's this blackmail that's got
to the first desk of the m I five and
a woman cried Diana at Tabana into her back black
ops mode and she's kind of trying to find out

(01:46:23):
what's going on, and she's in charge and pluming to
power and with this iron grip. And then there's this man,
Jackson Lamb, and he's the really the main protagonist, and
he's kind of mining his own business, drinking whiskey by
the tumble fill, drinking a lot of smoking a lot
of cigarettes, and eating some dodgy takeaways and it's very funny.
The woody is pointed at the Dialogu's pointed and saulting

(01:46:43):
and very witty, and he's focused on kind of working
out what's going on. With this really lazy precision. I
see a lots of themes in the story about redemption
and betrayal and loyalty, and you know, everybody in this
place will kind of eventually betray it will be betrayed,
and it kind of comes with the territory. But it's
really well plotted and a tale that's kind of really
timely and interested and entertained.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
So good. I love slow horses, So I've got to
get into the slare House series. That sounds fantastic. So
that's Mcheron's clown Town. Catherine's first book, The Secret Book
Society by Madeline Martin. All the details for those, of course,
will be up on the News Talks. He'd be website.
And we've got new music from Tammy Nielson. Next to
a new album is Neon cowbo, Oh my Gosh, throughout

(01:47:31):
the eighty fifth time this morning. Tammy Neilson's new album
is Neon Cargirl. We've got a couple of great tracks
for it to play you in a couple of minutes,
giving you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
The inside scoop on all you need to know Saturday
Morning with Jack dam News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
It you see them coming, You've seen them in song
We supply Girl Judge.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
No de brok.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
Ah, how good that's Neon cow Girl Tammy Nilson and
that other voice you could hear might have sounded familiar.
That's because it was Neal fun so good a Tammy's
just released a new album, Neon cow Girl. James Irwin
is here with us this morning to.

Speaker 24 (01:48:59):
James curaa jet Oh well, I want a wonderful morning,
Kaylee bell Foot last hour, it isn't so great with
so celebrating powerful country singing, you know, hard working, hard
mahy country girls, and we're.

Speaker 13 (01:49:13):
Seeing them out on the world stage. Now, I mean
country music maybe is the new nation's tonic we all need.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Yeah, it's funny Y's it's gone through a massive moment
at the moment, like we were saying with Kaylie, it
just sort of feels like it's exploding.

Speaker 13 (01:49:25):
A it's absolutely exploding. I've been actually banging on about
Tammy Nielsen to Wellington listeners for a while now, I mean,
she is a ball of energy, she is a wild woman,
She's the real deal. She is totally Heartbreak City USA
to me. And actually last time we chatted, Jack I
called it early and said there was an album by

(01:49:46):
Bill Ryder Jones, Lucky Dar was the album of the year,
and you know, a bunch of music major music publications
at the end of the year agree with me. Now,
I know it's only September, but I'm one of those
guys who's always chasing the album that's going to save
rock and roll in the loosest possible terms, or maybe
in this case, fire up some country soul and neon

(01:50:06):
Cowgirl currently might be sitting in number one place for me.
This is her tenth studio album, and that's what blew
my mind. Like I thought, oh, Tammy's released four or
five albums, and I went through her discography. There's ten
studio albums and then chuck on a couple of live albums.
This is bringing serious heat this album. It's boot kicking,

(01:50:27):
its highway traveled, swagger field, musical joy, and Tammy's vocals
are absolutely roaring. She's born in Toronto, as a lot
of our listeners will know, but she came to Auckland.
I think she came to Auckland for love and she
pretty much built her music career from scratch when.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
She got here.

Speaker 13 (01:50:44):
She did grow up performing in a family band called
the Nielsen's and they were probably a bit like the
Jackson Five. They just toured across the US and Canada,
opening for legends like Johnny Cash, though a pretty big
deal over in the States. I reckon Tammy Nelson clopped
her ten thousand hour long musical apprenticeship well long before

(01:51:05):
most of us went to Tayo Shoelaces. Yeah, so neon Cowgirl.
You know what I love about it, jack gritty guitar licks.
There's some glorious pedal steel that's never overdone. The drums
are really locked tight, and there's some fuzzed up basslines
which you don't really hear in country music so often.
And I really don't need to say how good the

(01:51:25):
singing is because it's just out the gate incredible. On
some of the tracks, there's this beautiful orchestral string sort
of swooping in and it kind of reminds me of
a huge Grant Hugh Grant rom com. You have the
five Weeks going on in the background as the romantic
kiss or climax happens on the on the bridge of
the river and the fireworks go off. Musically, it's a

(01:51:47):
complete knockout. Is She's a great storyteller, and I know
you talked about it with Kaylie Bell. She's a great
storyteller as well, and that that makes the big difference
in country music. There's she's telling stories, she's lyrically, she's
really digging deep. She's she's singing about survival, about identity,
about lost jobs, lost loves, picking up hearts along the

(01:52:10):
road like souvenirs. There's there's kind of grit and gravitas.
Her voice feels so timeless, but it's kind of like
it's urgently alive. She's got something she wants everyone to
hear about. Yeah, it's it's you know, she's she's hitting
crossover like she's not just a country singer.

Speaker 6 (01:52:29):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:52:29):
At times I'm feeling like she's channeling sort of soul
and funk this, and I feel like I'm bathing in
the gospel spirit at a church in Harban, New York City.
And then other times I'm feeling like I need to
get down down to Cuba Street and buy myself a
giant cowboy hat and go and join a line dancing. True,
She's she's just channeling so much is this soul and

(01:52:50):
this funk and the one thing that I always love
the music, but gospel handclaps, you know, definitely something there.
If you're a wreath, if you're an a Wretha Franklin fan,
you're gonna love it when she hits those big banging
numbers and there's there's some huge dynamics on this on
this album, I laugh. I was looking up a few reviews.
Mojo magazine, which is a terrific music magazine, called her

(01:53:12):
the Feral Patsy Climb, which I thought was a wonderful one.

Speaker 4 (01:53:16):
You know, like she's y.

Speaker 13 (01:53:18):
Yeah, I reckon, that's a total compliment. You know, she's
in this parts there's there's really quiet parts in it
as well. There's a lovely song, the last song of
the album, Loneliness of Love. It's a solo piano track
where she she kind of shows she's not just a powerhouse.
She's actually a beautiful songwriter who can exude emotion and
really hushed tones. So it's gone a little bit of

(01:53:40):
everything you know on this album for people. She collaborates
with a guy called JD. McPherson, who sounds a bit
like our own Delaney Davison, who I'm a big fan
as well. Like you said, Neil, Finn's cracks in on
that because it was actually recorded at Roundhouse Studio, which
is owned by Neil Fan and Alfund. It's it's equal
parts bootscooting party, it's hard on the sleeve balladerie. It's

(01:54:03):
got stadium level swagger. It's sound of highways, you know
late at night that she's probably she's traveled across and
to it. It's Neon motel rooms. It's gospel choirs from
the pulpit. And you know, I'm not even a boozer jack,
but if ever there's an album that made me feel
like pouring a bourbon and right about this time in
the morning. Yeah, great, it's terrific. She was playing live

(01:54:26):
all across the country. She got gigs coming up in October.
So Wantington, Auckland, christ Church, Nelson, total on and make
sure you get along. Honestly, if Tammy Nelson's Neon Cowgirl
was a crime scene, then you're going to find the
best DNA of soul, country and gospel under the victim's fingertips.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
And my goodness, I'm.

Speaker 13 (01:54:46):
Happy to be one of those victims. I'm not even
a huge country man, but I am loving it. I'm
going to get myself some Cowboy books.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
So what did you give it?

Speaker 5 (01:54:54):
James?

Speaker 3 (01:54:54):
Out of ten?

Speaker 13 (01:54:55):
Oh, look, it's a nine and a half out of
ten and I haven't been in a nine and a
half for a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:55:01):
I just love this.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Oh fantastic. I'm looking forward to having more of a listen.
Thank you so much, James that James Irwin reckons nine
out and a half out of ten as the score
for Neon Cowgirl Tammy Nelson's latest We're going to play
a bit more for you in a couple of minutes
right now at seven to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack
Team News Talk SAT Been well.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
Saturday morning started a bit tough, didn't it. The Black
Fern's going down in their Rugby World Cup semi final
thirty four to nineteen to a better team Canadaate got
on top of them this morning. But Black Fund's coach
Alan Bunting is going to be with Jason Pye on
Weekend Sport in just a few minutes with his thoughts
on that game and his team's efforts. Thank you so
much for tuning in this morning for all of your feedback,

(01:55:46):
your texts and emails, News Talks he'd be dot cod on.
His z is the place to go for everything from
our show thanks to my wonderful producer Liddy. We're back
next Saturday Morning. Until then, though, I'm going to leave
you with Tammy Neilson. Her new album is Neon Cowgirl.
This is Love Someone Season.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
I Love.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Here's a green heaving gona come every day under the.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Son, not some warm.

Speaker 6 (01:56:22):
Somewe some.

Speaker 16 (01:56:28):
There's a scream eaming go and.

Speaker 18 (01:56:30):
Come every day under the sun.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
I want to love some water.

Speaker 9 (01:56:36):
That love.

Speaker 16 (01:56:48):
Love.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
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