Full Show Podcast: 26 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
More in a good Morning, Welcome to News Dogs V
Jack Tame with you behind the mic through the midday Today,
big show coming up for you this morning after ten o'clock.
Our feature interview this morning, our feature as we have
every Saturday morning. Our standout interview for you on a
Saturday is British comedian Ed Gamble. He's one of those
regulars on all of those amazing British panel comedy shows,

(01:08):
you know, shows like QI, Mock the Week, He's on Taskmaster,
all those kind of shows. He's an extremely funny man.
He's also the co host of one of the most
popular podcasts in the UK. So he's gonna be with
us after ten this morning and before ten o'clock. A
little bit of a Winter Warmer. A little bit of
a Winter Warmer, just to kick you off for your
anzac weekend. Yeah, it's actually one of my favorite recipes.

(01:31):
If the spinach in your garden is going bananas at
the moment. If your spinach is going bananas, this is
the perfect recipe for you, a Sarguala recipe that we
will share very shortly right now, though it is eight
minutes past nine. Check team. I had a kind of
a funny entry in my calendar this week that kind
of took me a moment to decipher. So it said

(01:51):
Marva one Sea Anniversary, and my heart kind of skipped
a beat when I saw it anniversary. I thought, what,
oh ah, no, hang on, no stand down, stand down,
forget romance. What my end tree was telling me was
that I had just reached the anniversary for this very
radio show in which I had shared with you our decision,

(02:15):
our family's decision to become a one car household. So
we made the call at the start of twenty twenty three,
right because Marva had this old dunga that sort of
needed to go, and in theory, it just just didn't
seem necessary to replace it. In theory, at least, sure,
it was convenient having two cars. It was what we

(02:37):
had always been used to. But with a little bit
of coordination, a little bit of extra organization, we reckoned
that at the very least, Moving to one car was
worth a crack. So the anniversary has passed. We are
now more than two years in and I can report
we are still a one car household, and otherwise though

(02:57):
our circumstances have changed. So for starters, there are now
there's now four of us. We've got me, Marva, our
eight year old, and our ten week old baby, so
that means a baby capsule and a booster seat. And
we've upgraded from my oh so cool gray Toyota Corolla
to an oh so cool white Toyota Corolla. You could

(03:20):
say I'm on a corole.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
O.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
My dad get used to it. Anyway, every household is different, right,
every family is different. I get that. And there are
things that make our set up easier and things that
make it a little bit harder. So for starters, it's
easier to have a one car household when you live centrally,
and we live really centrally centrally, which certainly helps. But

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then we also have kids, kids who have appointments and
sports and playdates with their friends, kids who need to
be in different places at the same time. The way
it kind of works at the moment is that I
default to not taking the car about eighty percent of
my journeys I reckon are journeys in which I ride

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my bike. So when it's really heavily raining, I take
the bus or I catch an uber to work. Sometimes
when Marva isn't pregnant or isn't carrying a newborn baby,
she rides her bike too, And honestly, that uber thing
is actually a really big one. Again, easier obviously when
you live in a big city, but when we became

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a one car house, we kind of told ourselves that
we wouldn't feel guilty spending money on ubers if the
pair of us had a clash in our schedules or
a thunderstorm was rolling through. It didn't take a Nobell
winning economist to work out that a few big uber
journeys and rush hour traffic probably still wouldn't come close

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to what we were spending on insurance and parking in Petrol.
That was the theory, anyway, That was the theory, But
in practice it has been a comprehensive money saver. So
I looked it up. Did the sums. Last year? We
spent about three hundred dollars on ubers. Yep, that's real money,
three hundred bucks. But compared to the price of buying

(05:10):
and running a second car, it's nothing. The hardest thing
for me has been when plans change at short notice,
so one of us is out with the car, the
other one's waiting at home to use the car, but
then the first person gets delayed. That is frustrating and
it kind of throws a bit of a spanner in
the works. Even though I know I have to look

(05:30):
at the overall spend rather than individual one off journeys.
I'll be honest, like catching a forty dollars uber when
previously we might have driven, that still kind of catches
in my throat. That still feels a bit galling, and
it can be hard to remind yourself you've got to
look at the big picture, look at the overall spend
rather than one off journeys. So two years on, what

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is the verdict. Well, sure it takes marginally more coordination
than it did with two separate vehicles, but if anything,
it has honestly been easier than I imagined. I've actually
noticed subconsciously I often don't even think about taking the
car for most of my journeys. The biggest challenge is

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organizing around a clash in our schedules, but there are
honestly surprising benefits outside the obvious. One little thing, I
just I love not having to faff around so much
with parking. It seems minor, but it's like a quality
of life thing for me. And look, I'm not saying
that our setup is right or will work for every

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household and every family, of course, not. Okay, you do you,
although it has to be said. We've got really good
friends who have a three child house in a suburb
that's much further out than our one, and they manage
with one car just fine, and not once in the
last two and a bit years has either of us,

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either me or Marv doubted our decision. It is cleaner,
and even if you don't care about the fact that
it's cleaner, it is certainly cheaper having a one car
household and interesting right New Zealand still has one of
the highest rates of car ownership in the world after
two years. I'm convinced that doesn't need to be so.
Jack Team ninety two ninety two is our text number

(07:20):
this morning. If you want to send us a text message,
don't forget the standard text costs. Supply you can email
me as well. If you like jackitnewstalks EDB dot co
dot Nz. Before ten o'clock, We're going to tell you
about a couple of fantastic films showing at the movies
right now, right now. Next up, though, Kevin Milner is
in to kick us off on our Saturday Morning together.
Fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning.

(07:41):
This is news dogs ZEDB.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.
Saturday Mornings with jacktam and beepwured dot co dot nz
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Speaker 2 (07:53):
EDB seventeen minutes past nine, Jack, wait till your kids
start playing sport and have our other activities and need
to be in separate places, says Brendan. That may be so, Brendan.
In the future we may need two cars, but we've
already saved money as well as any of other things
over the last two years and just having one. So look,
in five or six years time, you could be one
hundred percent right. And maybe that's my point. Maybe there

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are kinds of times in our life where actually moving
to a one car household is convenient. Diana says Jack.
Can you catch an uber or a taxi with a
baby and small child and no car seat. That's probably
the problem with young families in one car. Yep, Diana,
we can't do that. So that's where we have to coordinate.
If Marva or I need to take the baby somewhere,
then we know that they've got to take the car

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and that the other person will have to be on
a bike and prefer a bet or taking an uber
or catching the bus something like that. And Warwicks is Jack,
you're risk it all riding a bike, risking your health. Yeah,
it's funny. I mean I've been I've been riding my
bike basically all my life. I love riding my bike, honestly,
I just love it, especially when you live centrally. I
swear and rush out it's faster. But I also get

(09:00):
that it's not for everyone. So when Marva was pregnant,
for example, I didn't love the idea of her riding
her bike, especially with Kee drive us. And you know
the same as now that we have a little baby,
we're not putting that little baby on the bike in
Central Auckland. Although look, there are other people who do that,
and you do you ninety ninety two if you want
to send us a message this morning Jacket News dot
co dot ins. Kevin Milne is with us now, Calvin Kevin.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Get a jack.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Well, I think we've just gone from two cars to
three actually because our daughter.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Tommy as well.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, she's just bought her own car.
So and then we've got it.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
I don't think we could get by just yet, just
as as a couple with without having two cars. No, London,
my wife goes to work and and I'm at home.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
You wouldn't want to be at homeal day without a car?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
No, that's fair enough? Could you? And when you're traveling
around at home, do you are you like, are you
going far from home during the day?

Speaker 4 (09:57):
No? Not really No, So could you.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Theoretically could you like could you bust to those places?
Could you ride a bike?

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah? As I could bus? Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I mean look, it's not it's not for everyone. I'm
not I'm not saying everyone has to do this. I
just reckon we sometimes maybe fall into a trap, you know,
where you just kind of think that you sort of
have that you have to have a two car household,
and actually if you step back sometimes and look at
it kind of critically and even do the sums like
you know, we were spending like at least fifteen hundred

(10:28):
bucks on car insurance plus petrol, plus parking for a
second car, plus of course the cost of the car
in the first place. And if you just think we
actually does that make sense?

Speaker 6 (10:39):
You know?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Anyway, it's not like I said, not not for everyone necessarily.
And maybe there'll be years in the future even where
you go from either three to four or from three
to one.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'd like to work towards us having one.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, yeah, I was worth considering at the very least. Kevin,
You've been surprised by how much research is being done
on New Zealand is killing killed in the First will
or in the in the two World Wars?

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Yeah, I've been finding out more about the death of
three of my uncles, all of them were brothers in
the First World War. What surprised me is how much
of that work's already been done by researchers with no
connection to these men. All I had to do was
google the names of my uncles, for example, Lawrence Dona Hue,

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New Zealand soldier World War One, and up came pages
of information I've never known about his time in the war.
There are the obvious sources, such as the Auckland War
Memorial Museum site, the New Zealand Wargraves Project, and the
Waou Military Museum site. But Google also appointed me in

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the direction of a Facebook site called the Lads of
the New Zealand Division nineteen fourteen to eighteen. It appears
to have been compiled by a couple of Kiwis, Jason
Sinclair and Josh Gudden. A key participator, though, is a
Belgian Frank Mayhew. He's devoted much of his life getting

(12:04):
information back to New Zealand about their family members who
died on Belgian soil or nearby so On the Lads
of the New Zealand Division site, I found out much
more about my uncles who fought and died in Passiondale
and Eprah or nearby battles to those areas, and there

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are maps showing where the soldiers met their death, whether
they were on the front line or not, maps of
the ambulance camps where they were treated that treated behind
the lines, and photos of where they're buried, even their
height and health as they were being trained and camps
back in New Zealand and the ships pictures of the

(12:47):
ships that took them to war. So a bouquet this
morning to these wonderful researchers who find out so much
about the lives of our fallen soldiers, and I encourage
listeners to give it a crack. It just starts with
keing the full name of the presion want to know
about and their war.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Just key that into Google in your way.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, it's amazing some of the some of the and
it's often led by kind of amateur historians as well,
and people who aren't you know, they're doing it as
a passion project rather than any financial gain or anything
like that. But it is remarkable some of the efforts
that people have gone to just to find out more
about the service and stories of you know, of New
Zealanders and other soldiers who fought in those in those

(13:35):
world wars. It really is incredible the kind of wealth
of information that we have accessible to us courtesy of
the Internet as well. Right in the past, you might
have had to go to a library, or you might
have had to do that stuff yourself with you know,
physical copies of documents, but now so much of that
has been uploaded online.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
And of course the one thing they don't know really
who are the living relatives of the people that were
their research. Yeah, so you've got to kind of make
the first step and go on to their site and say, Hi,
what can you can I'm looking into the history of
Lawrence don Hue, for example, of Mike Ads what can

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you tell me? Or can you tell me any more?
They'll send you a missed backs right away.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, special, isn't it. So how do you find when
you know, when you come across those records for your relatives,
do you feel like do you feel a kind of
you know, I don't know what it is. They're like
a kind of connection this you have some sort of
emotional response when you're finding out those little bits of
information you Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Absolutely, these three guys in the one family, I knew
their sisters. They were like all grandmothers to me. Yeah,
they were. They were very close.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
A lot of them didn't marry. I suppose there was
a shortage.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Of men around at the time, but to think that,
and they were wonderfully close to me when I was.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
A kid, and so yeah, it is. It is very special.
And I still would like to go over there and
see there graves. Yeah, I almost feel like.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
You should, Kevin do it. Yeah, yeah, go on, make
it happen this time next year, you know, put some
plans in place. I think, I think, I say, it'd
be a special thing to do. I did one, you
know one time. I remember, I'm a fan of the
going down a Rabbit Hole here, but I'm I'm I.
I had some interest in the New Zealand author John Mulgan.
You know, he wrote Man Alone and I when I

(15:30):
was in I went to Egypt years ago by myself,
kind of on a wee holiday and you know, it
was sort of like under martial law at the time,
so it was kind of an interesting time to be
in Egypt. But I remember I went and tracked down
his grave in Cairo, kind of in this in this
you know, Cairo is chaotic, dirty, kind of crazy city.
And then you know it's one of those cities in

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one of those places like many in North Africa and
Europe that you know, you can you can go, you know,
travel to a place that has this incredible collection of
graves and of commonwealth graves as they were in Egypt.
And so I traveled out to the suburbs and had
a look at his grave and I remember it, just
you know, it's not someone I'm related to, not someone
I have any real personal connection to, except for the

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fact that I'd read his books and I found it
really moving to go and find us grave there was
it was a special experience. So yeah, id you to
do it? Give and make it happen? Yes, yeah, very good.
All right, have a great weekend. We will catch you
again soon. Kevin Milne with us this morning. Jack, a
car is freedom, it's freedom to move, so cut the bs,
says Radu. Yeah, well Rada again, I'm not saying you

(16:36):
have to lose your car. A bike is also freedom
to move, Jack, what about rural ubers. This is my point,
as I said, having a one car household, isn't going
to see everyone a lot easier catching ubers when you
live in a city. Again, not for everyone, Jack says Gilly.
Living in a city is so much easier when you've
just got the one car as opposed to We lived
in Wellington for ten years. We had the buses and

(16:56):
trains that we could catch. I'm and blend him. Now
we're close to town, so I walk bike or my husband
bikes where possible. We still keep two cars though, because
there's no public transport and no ubers, which make it
tricky when appointments clash. Yeah, that's that's fair enough to Gilling.
Thank you for your message it ninety two ninety two
if you want to send us one. What a crazy
try Harry Potter last night for the Force against the

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Chiefs at bay Oval. I don't think I've seen a
try like that in Super Rugby before. Basically they took
a quick kickoff, the Chiefs were kind of you know,
ambling back to position and Harry Potter brought us a
little bit of magic, hey, you see, by chasing down
his own team's kickoff and scoring in the corner. Anyway,
we'll get our Sporto's thoughts on that in a couple

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of minutes. Twenty seven past.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Nine, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack
Team on News Talks.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
EDB coming up to nine thirty. Our Sporto Andrews Saville
is here. What did you make of that Harry Potter
try last night?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Not bad?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Ap, yeah, not bad?

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Every time he scores there's obviously some corny line.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yes, yes, yeah it was. It was. It was a
little bit special last night and like a great result
for the Chiefs at bay Oval really good, really good occasion.
But my goodness, there'd be a lot of concern in
the Blues camp this morning.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, there would be. First of the Chiefs. They will
stay top this weekend. Although the Crusaders play the Highlanders tonight,
they need to win by sixty or seventy points. I
don't think that's going to happen in Dunedin. But yeah,
the Chief's fifty six to twenty two over the Force.
Great night in the mount first super game the ever
at bay Oval sold out, so a lot of people

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there obviously for score holidays or Anzac weekend, so that
was a that was a good scheduling move by the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
And then Brisbane.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
The later game gee was Queensland thirty five twenty one.
Once again the Blues had a huge amount of possession,
which they did against the Crusaders. They just couldn't score.
I think there was a period then other tail end
of the first half for ten minutes or so when
they were camped inside the reads twenty two and just
could not Well, they got over the line several times
that they were held up knock ons, penalties, they just

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couldn't score. And for a team last year who did
score a lot of tries and who defended very very well,
there's just something really missing in this Blues this year.
Marked Talia didn't help. He was yellow carded and that
was upgraded to a red card for a tip tackle.
Now seven defeats across the season for the defending champions

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that ninth. They could falld a tenth today if Mawana
beats Fiji Drewer at Northaber Stadium later this so afternoon,
it's now unlikely the Blues will make the top Sex.
They've got four games left they probably have to win.
They've got a pretty good draw running home, but they'd
probably have to win all four games with bonus points.
So jee, what a what a turnaround? Yes, they've had

(20:00):
a lot of injuries, but those injuries are pretty much cleared.
The Blues just really struggling number one to g to
cross that trail line.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah they are. I mean, what was a three
disallowed tries last night and one that was held up,
which I mean, yeah, lady luck certainly wasn't on their
side last night, but of course you met your own
luck sometimes as well. Tell you what though, The warrior
is my goodness.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Yeah, last top class game of rugby league at that
level anyway at the old Addington Showgrounds jack which is
which was reasonably swiftly turned into a makeshift venue after
the twenty eleven quakes and has remained ever since. I
don't need to hark on about that for our christ

(20:42):
Church listeners, but what a night last night for the Warriors.
That game's been sold out for ages against the Newcastle
night they won twenty six twelve. I think it's the
Warriors first win in and around Anzac weekend for a decade.
And what they showed against the Brisbane Broncos again last
night similar very good defense on the whole where you

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have to number one defend well to win games, and
then also on attack they showed some really good glimpses.
So good on the Warriors and wonderful atmosphere. Wasn't it
great to see them taking games around the country and
what a fitting farewell to a ground. I'm sure they'll continue,
I think playing local sport there, but for a ground

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that is steeped in Canterbury rugby league history and also
the Kiwi's played there many many times, what a way
to go out for top grade rugby league at the
old at the old Showgrounds.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well said, yeah, it'd be great to see it in
the new stadium next year. Thank you so much, sir.
We will catch again very soon. That's Esporto Andrew several
before ten o'clock. We've got that Saguala recipe. We're going
to make it with Hallumi this morning. But Sagwala is
one of those things where you can kind of choose
what to make it with, right So if you've got
heaps of spinach, it is just such a delicious option,
especially at this time of year, with a little bit

(22:01):
of coconut cream, you know, just to add a little
bit of richness in there. So we'll give you that
recipe very shortly. Next up your movie picks for this weekend.
Right now, it is twenty six minutes to ten.

Speaker 8 (22:11):
Were in a salestor minute knocks me out.

Speaker 9 (22:14):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 8 (22:15):
It's never been enough for since I was seventeen.

Speaker 10 (22:20):
I gave you everything.

Speaker 11 (22:21):
Now we wake up from a dream, Well, baby, what
was done?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I know you're thinking, you're thinking, hang on, what what
was that? What was it?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
That was?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Lord? Yeah? And that song was called what was that?
So what was that? What was that was that?

Speaker 12 (22:42):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Francisco right in our film reviewer is here with her
movie picks for us this weekend. Hey Francisca, you are
such a boner sometimes, I know, I know the thing
is what I'm I'm I mean, I'm late late thirties,
but like deep down and makes you just like a
seventy five year old man.

Speaker 13 (23:02):
I'm very excited to have new music.

Speaker 14 (23:04):
Yeah, the winter, Yes, I'm.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Really looking forward to it. It was interesting she you know,
for anyone who missed it. The other day, she tried
to do a bit of a pop up concert in
Washington Square Park in this cool part of New York,
but it didn't go very well. The authorities basically shadowed down,
so you just had like thousands and or you know,
thousands of people turned up expecting to see Lord and
then she wasn't allowed to perform, which is funny because
Washington Square Park always has lots of randos performing against Rando. Yeah, yeah,

(23:31):
I know. She went back and dance, but it was
quite fun.

Speaker 12 (23:33):
Yeah, yeah, to get up and just dance on a.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
You know, I feel like she kind of embraces her
dancing as well. You know, she brings the kind of
different style, which I love. Anyway, I'm glad that you're
excited because I'm really looking forward to new music from Lord.
So yeah, that's great to see them anyway, our two
picks for us this weekend. Really looking forward to your
take on both of these films. So both of these
are showing in cinemas at the moment. Let's start off
with a little bit of a Listen to the trailer

(23:57):
for The Correspondent.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
The protesters are making it very clear how willing they
are to defy the government.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Al Jazeera.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Who is it? Yes?

Speaker 13 (24:11):
Who are you?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Are you police? Starting to go? Okay, this is the
story of the arrest, the trial and imprisonment of an
Australian journalist.

Speaker 15 (24:24):
Yeah, it's a really fascinating story and it probably people
will remember this. So it's twenty thirteen and Peter Grestor,
he's the Nairobi foreign correspondent for Al Jazeera.

Speaker 12 (24:34):
He's asked, hey, could you just.

Speaker 15 (24:35):
Go to Cairo and we've got someone going away for
a couple of weeks over Christmas on holiday would you
mind covering?

Speaker 12 (24:41):
And he's like, you no, that's no worries.

Speaker 15 (24:42):
So he heads there and of course there's a lot
of unrest at that particular time, and after reporting for
about two days, just going about doing his job, as
you heard in the trailer, there's a knock on the
door and some people come in and then they want.

Speaker 12 (24:53):
To take him down to sort of a police station
or something, and he's like, that's fine, that's okay.

Speaker 15 (24:58):
I can get this all cleared up. And I quite
know what's going on here, but I know how these
things kind of work. And he is in something, arrested
with two other journalists, and it becomes apparent quite quickly
that this isn't something that he's going to be able
to clear up. He had a bit of cash in
his hotel suite which was for his expenses, and who
perdems while he was there, and they accuse him of

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financially aiding and being part of a terrorist organization. And
it becomes pretty clear, as I said, becomes clear quite
quickly when the Australian sort of embassy visit him and
go there's a process we have to go through. He's
given a lawyer who is to represent him, who was
then arrested and charged with treason. It becomes clear to

(25:41):
him that this is not going to be straightforward that
you know what is seemingly straightforward. Hello, I'm a journalist.
I work with this organization. He just reporting is not
going to be a straightforward process. So we follow him
as he realizes that he is going to He ends
up in solitary confinement. He meets some other pretty interesting people,
political prisoners who sort of help him adjust to his

(26:01):
new situation, and along with these two other prisoners, goes
through the courts and spends a lot of time in
prison and things. Look, if you're not familiar with the story,
I'm not going to give away the result sort of
how it all unfolds, you can enjoy watching that. In
the film, Richard Roxborough plays Peter Grestor. He does an
absolutely fantastic job. He's in every scene in this film,

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and you really do get a sense of the journey
that he went through and just that whole trying to
adapt to finding yourself and such an extreme situation with
no hope.

Speaker 13 (26:36):
So it's really great.

Speaker 12 (26:37):
I actually spoke to Peter Grestor and Richard Rocksborogh on
the Sunday Session a couple of weeks ago. It's worth
having a listen to the interview, especially actually if you've
been and seen the film, because they talk about the
making of it behind the scenes, and Peter Grestor sort
of talks a little bit about his career since and
he is still a convicted terrorist and or regarded as
a terrorist and is doing a lot of work to

(26:58):
bring attention to the fact that, you know, journalists just
going about their daily jobs can find themselves in some
pretty difficult positions.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (27:07):
Really fascinating story.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Okay, sounds really good. Okay, So that's the correspondent that's
showing in cinemas at the moment. Next up, another movie
at the movies, This is Sinners.

Speaker 11 (27:19):
There are legends of people with the gift of making music,
so true, sicking conscious spirits from the path.

Speaker 16 (27:28):
And the future.

Speaker 17 (27:30):
This gift can bring fame.

Speaker 12 (27:32):
And fortune, but it also compeers the veil between life.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And then there's a lot of heart about this film.

Speaker 12 (27:45):
Yeah, and look, to be honest with you, I sort
of saw the train and I went, oh, it's another
sort of vampire horror film.

Speaker 15 (27:50):
Oh yeah, okay, and headed along. Ryan Coogler has directed this.

Speaker 12 (27:54):
He did Black Panther and Creed and he's teamed up
here with Michael B.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Jordan.

Speaker 12 (27:58):
Who he has worked with a lot since they're since
his debut film, fruit Vale Station. They work together on that.
And in this film, Jordan plays these twins, Smoke and Stack,
and we're in the nineteen early nineteen thirties in Mississippi.
It's a really bold, ambitious mix this film. It's a
period piece. It's part gangs to flick, Smoke and Stack

(28:19):
of just returned from Chicago where they were sort of
moving in the mobster world. And it's also a vampire
horror and it really kind of shouldn't work, Jack, but
it all comes together and it does. And so what
they've done here is is sort of taken a popcorn film,
a mainstream sort of vampire film, and it's wonderfully over
the top, but it's got kind of some heart and

(28:41):
soul and all these messages and while messages galore, because
it sort of focuses on race and history.

Speaker 15 (28:47):
And religion and repression and sin and redemption and freedom
and what is freedom and all these things. It's a
film really about the black American experience. Look, it's long,
it's two hours and seventeen and actually, to be honest
with you, it might have all been a bit much
to throw all that and never did. I love being
part of this world because the cinematography is fantastic. There's

(29:10):
some wonderful one shot scenes. The music is wonderful. The
blues it's so soulful.

Speaker 12 (29:16):
And there's this great scene where Coogler reminds us how
timeless music is, and he shows how the blues is
at the head of so much more, even music today.
And the tone. It isn't afraid to be gory and
be great and have lots of fun with these vampires
and things so very central as well steamy. It's full
of life. It's not perfect, but there's lots to like.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
That sounds great. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this one.
I reckon this is one. I'm deliberately going to carve
out a bit of space to go and see it
at the see it at the movies as well. Thanks Francisca.
So that's Sinners and Franciska's first film is The Correspondent.
Both of those movies, all the details of them will
of course be on the news talks. He'd be website Jack.
I've also got a knee bike and I love it

(29:55):
instead of just driving around you in the car. But
I wonder where do you leave your bike? Do you
have a really good lock? That seems to be one
of the hurdles that you need to accept with not
using cars, says Carl. So we have I have a regular,
good old human powered bike and my wife has an
e bike and sometimes I borrow her e bike and
just give it a bit of a black around the place,

(30:16):
because it is quite fun to ride on an e bike.
If you haven't readden on one, honestly, you've got to
try it. It's a it's a real rush. But yeah,
we both have really good locks, and that's how I
kind of do things, and honestly it's pretty convenient. So
for me, for example, sometimes if I want to go
to Mount Smart Stadium, like it's probably at least a
ten kilometer journey to Mount Smart Stadium, and so the

(30:38):
options are like I could drive there. I could try
and catch the train, which would take much more in
an hour. Driving there means like parking you know, probably
two kilometers away and then walking to the stadium. Or
I could take my wife's e bike and lock it
up directly outside the stadium. And I can tell you
that is far and away the fastest option. So if
I want to go and see orkand f C, or
I want to go and see the Warriors, that is

(30:59):
comfortably the fastest way to get there. But look, I
realized it's not for everyone necessarily. I'm not saying it is.
Call it to tend on newsed zedby. We're cooking Sagulea next.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Saturday Mornings with Jack Tae keeping the conversation going through
the weekend with bpure dot co dot in here for
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Speaker 2 (31:18):
Thirteen to teen. Kate loves biking as well.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I've always biked, and Christ used to write twenty five
k's each way to work, even in light snow. Okay, Kate,
you're going above and beyond. If it looks like a
bit wet, I'm like, I'm gonna get take the bus today.
I'm gonna catch a new bits today. Kate say she
loved it. I was so fit and so much petrol
saved now in hockey ticket. Our household has a couple
of cars because we have various different outdoor pursuits which

(31:43):
require them, but currently our son has one of them
to help him in the next town over with his study.
So once again we're making do nicely with one car,
some coordination, no excuse not to bike to town as
work is just up the road. Go the one car scenario.
Save the planet, save some dosh, says Kate. Well said, Kate,
thank you ninety two ninety two. If you want to
send us a message this morning. Margo Flanagan, who was,

(32:04):
of course one of the two Raw sisters, is here
with us today.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Killeder, killed a jack.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
How's it going very well? Thank you great to have
you with us, and I'm so delighted that you are
making one of my favorite recipes. Honestly, this is this
is a jack tame go to. It's just I reckon.
Sarguala is so delicious and like very very easy, and
it kind of makes you look like a better cook
than you are. It's one of those kind of dishes,

(32:30):
you know. So for anyone who doesn't know what a
saguala is, do we just want to should we start there?
I think it might be helpful just to explain what
what aguala is.

Speaker 11 (32:39):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 18 (32:40):
I mean agala is it's almost like a green curry sauce,
but it uses heaps of greens, so it's really good.
If you have a veggie garden, or if you love
a good Indian takeout, this is a really good alternative
to make yourself that full of nutrient dense ingredients. And
as you said, it's too easy.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
It's like that's that's it's like a delicious Indian curry
that's actually healthy. Yeah yeah, I mean, look, there's a
bit of there's a bit of a groom in there.
I'll go. We can get to that in a minute.
But that but like you, honestly, I have like a
garden's worth of spinach in mind, and I just feel
I feel like Popeye afterwards, you know.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
So yeah, okay, So so run us through the recipe.
You've you've decided to make a halloumi saguala this morning.
And I suppose you know, you could always trade in
the hallumi for different proteins. You could have chicken in
there if you wanted. I actually make mine with panier
a lot of a lot of the time.

Speaker 18 (33:29):
Yes, well that's what I was going to say. You
can you can swap the hallumi out with chickpeas, panier,
chicken tofu, whatever your dietaries require. But I was in
Sri Lunka last year and I did a cooking class
and learned all about the spices, which is why this
all this recipe was inspired by my travels over there,
and if anything, I realized how simple it is to

(33:52):
make a curry. I think we always think, oh, I
can never make make a curry as good as takeout,
and we kind of have that joke in my household.
Whenever you make a curry, it's like, oh, yeah, that's
a that's a white person curry, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, well this is fantastic, So run us through the
recentme cool.

Speaker 18 (34:10):
So super easy. All you need is dice one brown onion.
If you don't have brown onion, you could use red
onion or a leak, and then again with a big tomato,
so one tomato. And then we've got a little bit
of coconut cream in there, so a sort of a cup.
You could use coconut milk if you wanted to, or
just milk if that's all you head At home, We've

(34:32):
got four cloves of garlic, a good tablespoon of freshly
grated ginger, a teaspoon of garam masala. So Gara masala
is a mix of human coriander, peppercorns, cinnamon. So if
you don't have garamasala at home, no worries. You can
just use curry powder, or you can use a bit
of human and a bit of coriander. That'll be totally fine.

(34:55):
And then we've got chili flakes, or you can use
a fresh chili again depending on how spicy you want it,
a bit of cinnamon and sea salt. So you just
want to saute the onion off and everything off that
I just mentioned, and then we're going to add five
cups of greens, right, so that's a lot. But as

(35:16):
we all know, when you wilt down greens it turns
into nothing, so rarely chuck all the greens in there.
You can use spinach, rocket, herbs, kale, silver beet again,
whatever you have in the garden or in the fridge
that needs using, whatever's cheap, and then you just wilt
that down for about five minutes and blend it all
up in the blender or a slick blender, and that's

(35:36):
your delicious sarguala curry baits. So it's as easy as that.
And as we said earlier, I've put this with fried hallumi,
so I just fry the halloomi separately in a pan,
or you can use chicken panier, chickpeas, whatever your half
desire is and then add that into the sauce and
just heat it up till you've got your desired temperature.

(35:59):
And I like to serve mine with brown rice. You
could use white rice. I like to do chili oil,
peanuts and a bit of coriander. So it does actually
take about fifteen minutes. Yeah, and I have had the
comment so this recipe is on our two or sisters
app and a lot of women have said to me
that my husband said, this is the best meal I

(36:21):
ever made.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Ah, so there you go, very good. Yeah, oh that's fantastic,
thank you. I yeah, it is so easy, I reckon,
like I even do it sometimes with a little bit
of kumita or something like that, Like have a little
bit of kumita and some ponier. And then my other
thing is that I sometimes dice some like roast almonds
really finely and then sprinkle that over the top. Looks

(36:44):
kind of fancy, or like get some you know, sliverd almonds.
Get some of those and just chuck them over the top.

Speaker 10 (36:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Just it's all about the presentation, Margot, Don't you worry
about that?

Speaker 18 (36:52):
School about what you've got. Do you roast your komitter
before you put it in?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Or do you?

Speaker 19 (36:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Or yet no?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
I do sometimes or sometimes I just dice it and
then cook it really low and slow for ages as well. Yeah, hey,
thank you so much. There is Margo Flanagan, one of
the two Raw Sisters. We'll make sure that recipe is
up on the News TALKSZB website and of course you
can find them by downloading the Two Raw Sisters app.
Right now, it is seven to ten.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
Jack, can I please add meat to the recipe? Yes,
you can add meat to the recipe if you like.
I Ah, I mean usually sagual isn't like if you
went to an Indian restaurant. Usually it's with like a
white meat or like it's usually with chicken, or it's vegetarian.
But look, there's honestly nothing to stop you, so you
do you and we'll make sure that recipe is up
on the website very shortly, because it looks like quite

(37:49):
a few of you are keen to make it this weekend,
which is fantastic, Jack says Gary. Have you thought about
the fact that with your one car house, that one
car is doing more running around now that you've only
got one car often forgotten when you're looking at the savings.
Good point, Gary, But let's imagine that our one car
is doing exactly the same amount of journeys as our
two cars used to do. Right, we are still saving

(38:11):
on insurance and like that in our household, and I'm
just speaking for our household. Heere, the cost of insurance
is much greater than the cost of ubers and buses
that we now take separately. But yeah, I mean it's,
like I say, not necessarily for everyone. I just reckon
maybe a few more kiwis if they sat down, thought

(38:32):
about it, were slightly more organized stomach to the coordination
in their household, would actually find that, yes, it's doable.
It's actually surprisingly easy, and it saves your money, which
is the great thing. Anyway. It is just coming up
to ten o'clock. Our feature interview ed Gamble right after
the news. News is next though you with News Talks dB.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
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Speaker 2 (39:28):
You're with Jactaim on News Talk Zed b Ed Gamble
is a man of many hats. He is a Taskmaster
champion in the UK. He is a podcast co host.
He's an author, a television host, a stand up comedian,
and most of all, he is an absolute food maniac. Well,
maybe not a maniac, a food fanatic at the very least.

(39:49):
He's bringing a feast of comedy to New Zealand with
his new show Hot Diggity Dog, and ahead of his trip,
he'd Gamble is with us this morning, Calder.

Speaker 17 (39:57):
Good morning, Good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I'm very well, thank you, very excited that you're bringing
Hot Diggity Dog to New Zealand. Just just give us
a sort of the beck of the envelope explanation. Tell
us about Hot Diggity Dog.

Speaker 17 (40:13):
Hot Diggity Dog is a very funny show and you
should all buy tickets. Whenever I'm asked what the show
is about, I'd normally say it's a collection of things
that have happened to me since the last time I
did a show. There's a long bit about my disastrous
honeymoon to Las Vegas. There's a long bit about me
buying a cat with my wife, and it's a lot

(40:34):
more exciting than my description of it makes it sound.
I'll promise you'll be on the edge of your seat,
even though it sounds incredibly tedious of middle class.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Is Las Vegas a romantic destination?

Speaker 17 (40:46):
No, I wouldn't say so. I'd say it's one of
the grossest places I've ever been in my life. We
just thought it would be a fun, sort of mad
thing to do as a honeymoon, and I would now
disagree with my past self. Is a disgusting place.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I mean, if ken and I'll be all of those
things can not be fun and mad, disgusting and also fun.

Speaker 17 (41:09):
Yes it can be, I would say not if you
have my personality necessarily right. I don't like gambling. I
don't like necessarily staying up past midnight.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Nice.

Speaker 17 (41:21):
It was a terrible choice. We did have a lot
of fun, and let me tell you, I've got a
twenty five minute bit of stand up comedy out of it,
so it must have been worth it.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Okay, that's good. Just tell us what was the single
grossest thing you saw you observed in the single most
repellent observation you made in Vegas.

Speaker 17 (41:41):
I mean, I mean as soon as soon as you arrive, really,
I mean we saw. It's gonna make me sound like
a real prove.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Is that the people? Is that the people gambling at
the airport? Because I always found that really alarming.

Speaker 17 (41:52):
Well, that's obviously insane, because you know, why would you
gamble at the airport when you could just get in
a cab and do it in a bigger place with
more people doing it? Hugely alarming I found.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
We did.

Speaker 17 (42:04):
We did do some fun stuff. We went to a
AGA branch that was a lot of fun, but then
we got essentially beaten up at a time massage parlor.
It was you know, there's a lot of things going on. Yeah,
there's a lot of things going on in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, at the very least, you know that with Vegas
you're always going to get stories, You're always going to
eat a canteen time. From from a comedian's perspective, am
I right in thinking that hot Diggity Dog got you
in trouble with the advertising people in the UK because
apparently you were advertising junk food.

Speaker 17 (42:35):
Yes, so the poster is me messily eating a hot dog.
I'll be honest. That's where the title of the show
came from, because I didn't know what I was going
to call the show, but I came up with the
idea for the poster, and we worked backwards, and then
we tried to put up posters on the Tube for
my London shows and they bounced it back and said
we can't put this up because it's advertising junk food.

(42:56):
But I look like an absolute pig while I'm eating it.
If anything, it was putting people off junk food. So
rather than not advertise it on the Tube, we photoshopped
the poster and changed the or to a cucumber and
they put it up. So it's a bizarre poster. It's
a hot diggity dog and there's a picture of me
eating a cucumber. But they didn't seem to mind that
I was now promoting vegetables.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I feel like there's going to be a real streisand
effect with that kind of thing, you know, like by
doing that, they've actually drawn far more attention to your show,
which now I'm not suggesting with win them, but a
lot of attention al really, But it's kind of done.
You a favor in a sense.

Speaker 17 (43:29):
Well, as soon as that happened, Jack, of course, my
management were all over this, and there was a press
release out and I was interviewed on the radio for
Today program, which I would not have been interviewed on
were that not to have happened. I suddenly, I suddenly
turned into a newspiece, which is to be honest with
the dream when you're trying to sell taken will you?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Were you asked to pass judgment as to whether or
not advertising drunk food on the tube is a morally
good or bad thing?

Speaker 17 (43:54):
Of course I was, and I would not be drawn
on it. I just kept saying where the show was,
because I don't really have an opinion on that, although
I think broad in my opinion is yeah, probably advertised
junk food to young people a little bit less. But
you know, I wasn't going to just necessarily say that
it was much better to be a pariah and one
of these comedians who says, you can't say anything anymore

(44:16):
that they seem to sell tickets, So why can't I
be that guy for it?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, fuir enough to I feel like it comes without
saying that most of us have been thinking about food
for most of our lives. But I think for you
it's kind of it's it's in another it's in another
straighter sphere. Maybe I don't know, it kind of reaches
another demention or something, right, because there are all these
ways in which kind of food is this kind of
little patina in your life. And you know, hot diggity

(44:40):
Dog in your cucumber hot dog experience on the tube
is only as only the latest. How do you how
do you kind of think about the role that food
plays in your in your life more broadly outside of
just nourishing you.

Speaker 17 (44:57):
Well, I mean I think about food probably I'd say
like eighty percent of the day if I'm not if
I'm not eating food, I'm thinking about the next thing
I Am going to eat, and getting excited about restaurants
and what I'm going to cook, and you know, coming
up with the recipes and reading cookbooks and doing all
of this stuff. So I spend a long time thinking
about it. I get a lot of joy from food.
Food is one of the things that I know will

(45:19):
always offer me joy, and I managed to parry that
into a career as well. I mean, I do a
food podcast. I'm a judge on a FOD show. I've
written a food book. There's that people. People seem to
enjoy it when I talk about food, and I enjoy
talking about food as much as I enjoy eating it.
So it's worked out pretty well.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Going back to Vegas in did you do one of
those horrible all you can eat things? I know you're Tiwan,
so I don't. It would just mean a whole lot
of insulin. I presume, yes, exactly.

Speaker 17 (45:46):
I mean the whole trip to America meant a whole
lot of insulin, to be honest. But I've become as
a proper foodie and also Type one diabetic. I've become
a bit of a bit of an expert on on
on insulin doses. I'm pretty it's one of my true
pure skills is looking at a bit of food and
working out how much insulin I need to give. We
did do a buffet. We did the Weir in the

(46:06):
Win Hotel buffet, which I think is one of the
higher end ones. So me and my wife went in
there with almost a spreadsheet of the order of things
we needed to do. So it was, you know, screaming
high quality proteins at each other when we first went
in just being like, hit up the prime rib and
the lobster and the prawns straight away, and then if
there's room move on to some of the lower grade carbs.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Was it a pleasurable experience?

Speaker 17 (46:32):
Uh not by the end, I'd say I'd say maybe
the first two plates definite pleasure because it's quite good stuff.
But you know, when you're getting towards the sort of
the back end of the buffet plate eight or nine,
you're very much doing it out of a sense of duty.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. The classic thing is that you sort
of think I've got to get my money's worth. There's
some sort of weird primal switch that happens, right You're like, yeah,
hang on, I can nourish myself obscenely, so I don't
need any more, you know, energy for the next three days.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Anyway, So you mentioned the podcast, and I mean, you
and James A. Kester have just had so much you know,
love and iteration for what you guys have achieved over
the last few years. And the podcast is brilliant. It's
such a kind of simple concept in a way, and
yet through talking to people about food you sort of
get a kind of it's like a leans into their

(47:27):
life in a strange way. So for people who haven't
heard the podcast, basically you ask them to describe a
menu and they can come in and they can talk
about a sideplate, they can talk about a main, a dessert,
all that kind of thing. What has been the most
alarming answer that you have received and off menu over
the last few years.

Speaker 17 (47:45):
We've had some pretty alarming ones, I'll be honest. The
first bad one we had so it stands up as
a bit of an icon, is the comedian Joel Domit,
who is a very healthy boy. He's in incredible shape,
but the way he eats is just so weird, and
he he the main issue with his was his dream

(48:05):
drink was a strawberry protein shake, which is so unacceptable.
I mean, you know, in the years of speaking to
him now and again, I have delved into the world
of protein shakes. You know, you get older, you start
trying to work out a bit and work out your
macros and things. But that is no one's dream drink
that should be that. But he genuinely he loves strawberry

(48:26):
protein shake. It just feels that was pretty fair.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
If you're drinking a strawberry protein shake, call me off fishing,
but I just like, I like food and drink to
actually be food and drink. And if you're drinking a
protein shake, it's the ingredient to numbers, you know. And
oh yeah, this sort of incredibly artificial.

Speaker 17 (48:44):
Yes, it wasn't it wasn't a great choice. But he's
been he's been rightly hauled over the coals for it
so many times, and I think now it must be
five years later, and I think people still shout him.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
And radio interview is a cost of world. People are
still criticizing him for the call. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I once upon a time went through the online dating
thing and prided myself on trying to in these dating
situations throw questions at various dates, just just because I

(49:15):
thought you'd get a bit of an insight into their persona.
And one that I always asked was, if you could
only have one cuisine for the rest of your life,
so it's not just one dish, but one cuisine every day,
every meal for the rest of your life, what would
you go with. And it's not necessarily that there is
a wrong answer, but you need to I always thought
you need to be able to give a kind of

(49:35):
strong justification as to why you chose that cuisine. Is
there anything like off the top of your head that
would that you would choose if there was one cuisine.

Speaker 17 (49:44):
I think you need to I mean, I'm not professing
to know everything about every cuisine and all the things
they offer across the world, but I think you need
to select something that sometimes you can eat light and
it's delicious, and then sometimes if you really want to
go for it, you can you can find stuff to
do that as well. And I think for me, it
would probably be Japanese food because there's so many. There's

(50:05):
so many that are fresh and light and delicious and
high quality and amazing. But then also you can absolutely
go for it. If you've ever been to Japan and
gone into like you know, Tokyo late at night, you
can just get fried chicken and you can get all
this amazing, amazing stuff. So I think it would have
to be It would have to be Japanese food for me.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Someone said to me, and I'm not joking, someone said
to me English food and I was like, hmmm, And
I said to them beforehand and I was like, there's
no wrong answer, but you.

Speaker 13 (50:36):
Know, but.

Speaker 17 (50:39):
Look, we have we have some wonderful foods and wonderful
traditional dishes. They are they are all. They are all
dishes built for the dead of winter and working down
a coal mine. And I just I think they all
they're all stick to your ribs stuff. We have some
incredible restaurants, but I think what we do very well
here in the culinary scene is absorbing other cultures as well.

(51:02):
So we've got some fantastic restaurants, but there aren't many
that I would consider to be purely British food.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Yeah, hey, how do you find the sort of British
sense of humor? And I know that it's a pretty broad,
all encompassing term, but how do you find it translates
to New Zealand and Australia because of the kind of
you know, the sort of a cultural connection there.

Speaker 17 (51:22):
Yeah, I think we've got enough sort of shared cultural
stuff and enough shared references that it actually translates incredibly well.
I mean, like with so many British comics come to
New Zealand and Australia, and likewise we get so many
Kiwi and Australian comics come over, and it just it
just seems to click. It works really nicely. But yeah,

(51:43):
like you say, there's no specific one type of British humor,
just just as there isn't in New Zealand and Australia.
Although I would argue that I think the New Zealand
censer of humor is more distinctive than both of those
two things.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Really interesting, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 17 (51:56):
I think I have an idea of what New Zealand
humor is in my head. I've got more of a
set idea, and it's more, you know, it's more laid back,
it's more offbeat, it's slightly more surreal, but in a
self deprecating way. And I think that's why that's why
the UK enjoys New Zealand camera as well.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Hey, finally, then, how do you personally find it giving
you a lot of the work you do as sort
of collaborative stuff, whether it's with James or whether it's
on the panel shows and that kind of thing in
the UK, How do you personally compare the experience and
thrill of writing and then performing a live show solo.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
I love it.

Speaker 17 (52:31):
I mean I love I love being the only one
who's put it together and the only one who shaped it,
and you get you get a huge amount of pride,
especially being able to fly to different countries and do
it whilst you know, doing it alone, and I love
collaborating as well, like we've done some off MANU live
shows recently and being on stage with James and messing
around and you know, getting big loves out of those

(52:52):
audiences is an incredible feeling. But you do sort of
feel like you're getting away with it, whereas when when
you've written, when you've written stand up and you're performing
it in front of people, you're like, Okay, I feel
like I've worked for this and I've probably earned.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, yeah, I was so excited to have you here.
It's yeah, fantastic that you're making your way to New Zealand.
All the very best with Hot Diggity Dog and we
will see your own can't wait.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
Thanks Jack.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
That is Ed Gamble. All the details for Hot Diggity
Dog will be up at newstalk zb dot co dial
in zed Ford slash Jack, alongside everything else from our show.
So before eleven o'clock this morning, we're going to tell
you about this new rule in the EU regarding cell
phones and bits of like electronic equipment. So you know

(53:34):
how the EU is kind of like cracks down or
tries to crack down on technology a bit more so.
They were the ones who said, for example, that iPhones
had to have the same charging cables as the phones
that are used by you know, Android platforms. Well, now
they've come up with a new rule that means that
all new bits of electronic kit are going to have
a sticker on them that says how long their battery lasts.

(53:57):
So when you go to look at a new phone,
for example, you'll be able to look at different phones.
You'd be okay, you have a standardized MESA, you'll be
able to say, right, this phone should have a battery
that lasts for twenty one hours, this phone should have
a battery that lasts for twenty three hours. And that
might influence which product you decide to buy. So we're
going to tell you a little bit more about that
system very shortly. Right now, it is twenty two past

(54:19):
ten your screen time picks for this weekend.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Next start your weekend off in style. Saturday mornings with
Jack Taine and vp it dot code on inst for
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Speaker 4 (54:30):
News Talk said b.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
It is twenty five minutes past ten on your Saturday morning.
If you're feeling like one of those weekends where you
just go on the couch. Good News. Tara Reward, our
screen time expert, has three shows to watch your stream
at home that she's going to recommend for us this morning.
Hey Tara, good morning. Okay, let's kick things off with
the show streaming on Prime Video. Tell us about Mobland.

Speaker 12 (54:55):
Yeah, last week I talked about a Guy Ritchie documentary
series about a group of London gangsters, and this week
we've got a Guy Ritchie drama series about some London gangsters.
This is Mobland. It stars Tom Hardy, Pierce Brosnan and
Helen and Maren and it's pretty much what it says
on the tin. This is a crime series about two
warring mob crime families in London, the Harrigans and the Stevensons.

(55:19):
And it's about the power struggle between the two families
which is escalating as they try to control crime and
profits in the city. And in the middle of it
all is Harry who's played by Tom Hardy, who's great
in this. Harry is a fixer. He does all the
dirty work. He knows everyone and he has to do
some pretty questionable things to keep his employers. The Harrigans
Happy and this is a great little watch. It's gritty,

(55:41):
it's smart, it's a little bit violent, but brilliant cast.
Helen Mirren and Pierce Brosnan play the mob boss married couple.
They're quite scary together. Patty Considine and Joan Froge are
in this too. It feels a bit like the show
Gangs of London, but it's not as heavy or as slow.
It's exactly what you would expect from a guy Ritchie
Tom Hardy crime drum and nothing more. You know, big energy,

(56:02):
lots of dodgy blokes and just a very entertaining series.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Nice okay, cool, that's mob Land. So that's on Prime video.
Also on Prime video Ittoi Yeah, this is.

Speaker 12 (56:12):
A new comedy drama that's just landed this week. It's
made by Amy Sherman Palladino and Daniel Palladino, who are
probably most famous for making shows like The Gilmore Girls
and The Marvelous Missus Masel and the new show is
something a little different. It's set in the world of
ballet and it's about two prestigious dance companies in New
York and Paris who both struggling to survive financially, and

(56:35):
so the artistic directors come up with this idea to
swap the major dance stars in each company between Paris
and New York and the hope that will revitalize things
and be a drawer card for new audiences. And so
it becomes your classic fish out of water scenario. Lots
of egos, lots of personalities, and a little bit of
dance as well. And if you've watched Gilmore Girls or

(56:56):
Marvelous Missus Masel, you know those dramas have that fast dialogue,
that witty banter, lots of humor, and that show has
the same kind of feeling to it. It's not quite
as strong here, not quite as quirky, to be fair,
I think the first episode is fleshing out a lot
of things, so hopefully it will find it stride as
it goes on. But if you are a fan of
Gilmore Girls, or if you love a bit of dance,

(57:17):
this is light and easy to watch and something not
too serious for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Right, Okay?

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (57:21):
And on Netflix, Ransom Canyon.

Speaker 12 (57:25):
Yeah, this is the number one TV show on Netflix
and New Zealand at the moment, so lots of us
are watching Ransom Canyon and it's an American family drama
that's kind of a cross between Virgin River and Friday
Night Lights. It's set in Texas. It stars Josh Jumel,
and it's about three families who farm on these massive
ranches across the sweeping Texan countryside, and it's about how

(57:49):
their lives cross over, their relationships and their friendships and
their feelings. And there are a lot of feelings in
the show. There's a lot of grief and lost loves,
lots of sad cowboys. It's a Western soap opera effectively.
But I can see why lots of people are watching it.
It's escapism. It's soft and romantic and a little bit cheesy,
or a lot cheesy, but it's comet for TV, and

(58:11):
I think a lots of us are turning to that
at the moment. There's lots to be said for a
show that is predictable and safe and you know it
might not be perfect, but you can just step into
it for a couple of hours and and forget the rest.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
This is a bit of escapeism, isn't it, Tara, Nothing
wrong with that from time to time. So that's a
Ransom Canyon. Hey, there's one you've left off the list
this week, so I'm just gonna have to addit. New
season of Grand Designs New Zealand. I just go wrong.
I love Grand Designs. I don't know what it is.
I just well, yeah, I just yeah. It's fantastic. So

(58:42):
a new season of that kicks off tomorrow evening on
TV and Z one. I think seven thirty. It'll be
on TV and Z plus as well, So I can't
wait for that. Hey, thank you so much. Have a
great weekend, and we will put those recommendations online. Of course,
those shows once again on Prime video mob Land, that's
the Guy Ritchie drama Ittoil is the one about the
dancers from the from What Paris and New York was

(59:05):
it going into Popping around It? And Ransom Canyon is
the show streaming on Netflix right now. It is ten thirty.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team
on News TALKSB make up your.

Speaker 16 (59:28):
Mind, Sime.

Speaker 12 (59:41):
I can kill be Cad.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Oh how good do you hear that? It's kind of
a little blend of emotion, a bit of finesse, a
bit of aggression in there. This is Samantha Fish. She's
a guitarist, the songwriter, a vocalist, blending all sorts of
genres so rock, country, funk, and bluegrass. She kind of
covers all the bases. Anyway. She's got a brand new
album out. The album is called paper Doll, which is

(01:00:06):
the culmination of years of commitment to the music scene.
She has really created some incredible work, but has kind
of floated around relatively under the radar so far in
her career. In fact, would you believe until this week,
I'd never heard of her, I know, shocking for someone
who's usually so patched him with all the current trends. Anyway,
I love what I've heard so far, and so we're
going to make sure we have a little bit more

(01:00:26):
of a listen. She actually she opened for the Rolling
Stones this year, which kind of was a bit of
a breakthrough for her. Now our music reviewer Atestelle Clifford
has jumped into this album this week, so she's going
to join us before midday. We'll play a couple of
tracks and you can make up your own mind on
Samantha Fish. Before eleven o'clock, we are in the garden
and we're going to take a look at Dingy Fever
and the risk that it can actually present in this

(01:00:48):
part of the world or in the wider kind of
South Pacific region. Next up, though, our texperts in twenty
five to eleven, putting the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 8 (01:01:00):
It has the trunk to blink. It's later spreads to
China and tariff appears to be he's going to back down.
No hall see can use the former advisor to send
us to John mccainey's with the American Action Forum these days.
What's your sense of this whole terrorff thing.

Speaker 11 (01:01:12):
I think it's been a real problem for the US
and the global economy in general.

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
Would you say Trump has blinked in the last twenty
four hours? Is this is what the comments about China's
really about.

Speaker 11 (01:01:21):
It's absolutely true that the president never as he made
a mistake, but he does respond to pressure, and we've
seen him respond to that pressure in the past week.

Speaker 8 (01:01:28):
So what happens now?

Speaker 9 (01:01:29):
I think the.

Speaker 11 (01:01:30):
Reciprocal teriffs go away under the guys of negotiations with
these country or something like that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:35):
Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
a Vita News Talk zib.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Hey thank you for your text and emails this morning.
So I started off the show by reflecting on the
last two and a half years or so, well two
and a bit years in our household of being a
one household car. So at the start of twenty twenty three,
my now wife and I decided that we would get
rid of one of the cars. She and oldunga and
just kind of needed to go. And we thought, we're
not going to replace that. We'll see how we go

(01:02:01):
with one car. And we thought in theory it would
be possible. It might, you know, need require a bit
of coordination and that kind of thing, if he sacrifices
here and there. But honestly, it's just been so much
easier than I even thought. Now. I'm not saying it's
going to be perfect for everyone, not saying that, but
for us at the very least, going to a one
car household has been a kind of dream, And a
big part of it is cycling. Jack on the text machine,

(01:02:24):
I love your love of cycling. I, like you and
most other cyclists, drive a car as well, and therefore
do contribute to the cost of roding through various taxes, etc.
I commute during the week on my bike and absolutely
love that part of my day. The issue, though, is
the danger that exists from attitudes of other New Zealanders
in their cars. Once they get behind the wheel of
the car, they get aggressive all of a sudden. Yeah,

(01:02:45):
I mean, I definitely notice that, and I sort of
feel like when I'm cycling, I just have to have
eyes in the back of my head, Like I really
feel like I need to have eyes everywhere the whole time,
and you know, it can be kind of an intimidating thing.
I actually I've always ridden the bike, so even you know,
when I was in high school, ways to ride my
bike all the time to school, and so I've never
really stopped, which I think helps you kind of have

(01:03:07):
a good sense of you know, we are traffickers most
of the time, but there's still stuff that happens to
me on the road where I'm giving I'm really given
a terrible fright and I'm like, my goodness, But for
you know, thirty centimeters there, that could have been a
really serious accident. So I agree with that point ninety
two ninety two. If you want to send us a
message this morning, right now, it's twenty two minutes to

(01:03:28):
eleven in our textbook. Paul sten House is here with
us this morning, and when I say here, he is
kind of here because although Paul is usually based in
New York City, he is home on Uncle Judy at
the moment. How's it been back, Paul.

Speaker 13 (01:03:41):
It's been great, Jack. I'm here visiting New Zealand's Cutest
five months old. Ah, and he definitely has that title,
and I'm not biased about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
That's fine, no biased there whatsoever, just so long as
he's not competing with the New Zealand's Cutest two months old.

Speaker 13 (01:03:52):
Because okay, see that was why I didn't say New
Zealand's you know, New Zealand that you refine that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 13 (01:04:00):
I thought i'd better, Yeah, I thought I better.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
How good is Uncle Judy? A just all no responsibility.
It's just so good to be able to like swing
and have some fun, get some smiles, you know, then
hand them and.

Speaker 13 (01:04:10):
It's so it's so fun. You know, my sister so
she's over from Melbourne. It's the it's the full the
full steinhouse household, bajackets a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I beat your pars loving it, Paul.

Speaker 13 (01:04:20):
Yeah, yeah, as everybody. And now, but the thing that's
so interesting, as my sistory says that, oh he's got
a new trick today, and it's so crazy it changes
by the day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I know it is. Hey. Anyway, Yeah,
let's talk tech because it's also changing pretty quickly at
the moment. Interesting. The EU are kind of the party
purpose when it comes to some of the big social
media platforms and you know big tech companies. Well, party
purpose is not party purpose. I'm more for them. They're
the big regulators that they regulate as hard as any

(01:04:52):
country does or any group of countries does, which is
not to say that it's necessarily a whole heap of regulation.
But they're now bringing in requirements that will mean all
tech sold in the in the European Union will have
to have a label on the box.

Speaker 13 (01:05:06):
Yes, So if you've gone into you know, Lemings or whatever,
you've probably seen those big stickers on the TV and
the fridge talking about energy efficiency and things like that,
and that's what they're bringing in for basically all devices,
so your phone, your tablet. There's a different requirement that
has for laptops and things like that now that really
wants to let consumers be able to compare with standardized

(01:05:31):
information that kind of looks cross between like a nutrition
label and one of the five star ratings you see
on a hotel. But they're looking to get people to
understand really about the device and how how you can
repair it, how durable it is. Basically trying to give
you a sense of when you go and spend thee
now couple of thousand dollars on a device, how long

(01:05:53):
is that then going to actually last you? So, how
how many times can the battery be recharged, what's it
rated for? How long will should the battery be actually
be lasting each day? Can you repair it? Can you
drop it? And interestingly, they've also put in some eco
design requirements they call them right and that's to make
sure that devices are up to a certain standard when

(01:06:14):
it comes to things like being able to handle splashes
of water or dust or scratches or drops, things that
you know break your device and cause you have to
buy another one. So they're actually really trying to look
out for the consumer. And I would probably go as
so far as the stair. As you said, they are
probably one of the biggest regulators. I think they have
probably driven more innovation, more innovation or forced innovation and

(01:06:35):
technology in the past couple of years than anyone else.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:06:39):
Yeah, they are the reason we have USBC in our iPhone.

Speaker 20 (01:06:42):
Just be real.

Speaker 13 (01:06:44):
And so what's interesting is this is this is coming
in now pretty quickly June eighth. Every device, every cell phone,
every tablet being sold in the EU will need to
have this mandatory label so folks can compare.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
No, very good, hey, very quickly. Paul open Ai says
that be open to buying Google's Chrome browser.

Speaker 13 (01:07:00):
Yeah, because the DOJ, the Department of Justice in the
States ruled last year that Chrome is a monopost in
search and so now they're trying to figure out are
they going to carve up parts of Google And one
of the things they're looking at doing is taking Google
Chrome and forcing it to be sold. And open Ai
took the stand this week and see we'd be interested
in buying it. Yeah, you would, no wonder what an

(01:07:23):
instant audience, but you know, they want to be the person,
they want to be the surface you go to for
everything AI, the thing you open, the app you open.
What better way than doing it than grabbing the world's
number one web browser and Google and sorry, open as
tried to work with Google a number of times they
haven't been able to get to a deal day instead
partner with bing. So this would be this would be

(01:07:45):
a big curve. This could if this actually happened, this
would really truly be a potential to undo Google's what
decade of being the number one search and number one
web browser platform.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah, oh, they'd be fascinating. Okay, we'll see what happens there.
Thank you, Paul, enjoy the rest of your time and
it all will catch you soon. That's our texpert, Paul
Stenhouse at seventeen to eleven. Doctor Brian Betty is in
with us next.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
It was such sad news. A twelve year old Sarmon
boy died in Auckland Starship Hospital last week after contracting
dingy fever. So he'd been really sick in some more
and then was transferred to New Zealand. But yeah, someone
media confirmed I think a day after he was flown
to New Zealand that he had died. So we want
to know a bit more about dingy fever and the
kind of risk that it can present in this part

(01:08:44):
of the world. Doctor Brian Betty is here with us
this morning. Kelder Brian, thank you for being with us.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yeah, I mean, obviously this is a really you know,
really sad case, just just twelve years old. But for
those who don't know anything about dingy fever, what actually
is it?

Speaker 10 (01:09:00):
Yeah, no, look at something we do need to be
aware of because we often travel to the Pacific Islands
and so it's a mosquito spread virus. So you get
it from mosquito bites, so when you get bitten, dingy
fever can happen if that mosquito is infected with dingy fever.
Now it occurs with the small mosquitos that occur during
daylight or fly around during the day. Now, this is

(01:09:22):
very different from mosquitos that cause malaria, which occur early
morning or early evening. So it's a daytime mosquito that
actually causes the problem. Now, we know it's endemic in
the Pacific Islands, so it tends to float around the
Pacific Islands and every two to five years it tends
to be a major outbreak of it. And that's actually
happening at the moment in Samoa tolerant Fiji in particular.

(01:09:45):
Now it is becoming more common around the world with
climate change. This is what's really interesting and not talked
about at the moment. So we've seen it in more
parts of the world. In fact, you can actually get
to North Queensland now and as temperatures become warmer, more humid,
mosquitoes tend to spread, dingy fever tends to spread, and
there's about four and a half million k this is

(01:10:06):
a year around the world at the moment. Now, the
question has could have reached New Zealand one day with
climate change? The answer is actually yes, and it's probably
one of the things we don't talk about enough in
terms of the spread of these types of diseases. So yeah,
endemic in the Pacific AD's certainly an issue at the moment,
which which has led to this very tragic outcome.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
So what happens if you've betten buy a mosquito that
has do you automatically.

Speaker 10 (01:10:30):
Well not always now it can be a symptomatic and
some people can get very mild illness. But what can
happen is is generally the infectional start to show itself
four to ten days after the mosquito bite. Now, the
typical symptoms are very high fever, severe headache, often pain
between the eyes, and very severe muscle or joint pain.

(01:10:51):
And colloquially it's been referred to as break bone fever.
Some of your listeners may have heard of that phrase before,
and it can cause nausea and vomiting, the skin rash. Now,
typically it will get to better, get improved, and get
better after one to two weeks. Now, however, there is
a very severe form of it called dingy hemorrhagic fever. Now,

(01:11:12):
this typically occurs after the second infection, So you've been
affected once. What happens the immune system gets very primed
to the dingy fever. You get a second bite in
the second infection, and the immune system overreacts to it
and you get this very dangerous condition called hemorrhagic dingy fever,
and that can lead to very severe complications and in

(01:11:34):
some cases death. So, yes, the second one that can
often be a real real problem if you get bitten.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
So there's no vaccine to prevent the disease. What do
you do? How do you treat it?

Speaker 10 (01:11:46):
Yeah? Yeah, so this is really important. So, no, there
is no vaccine that you can prevent it, So you
can't go and see your doctor and get a vaccine
to prevent it. Dingy fever, there's no treatment, so there's
no antiviral treatment. So the only treatment that's available is
really supportive. So in mild cases, it's things like paracetamol,
plenty of fluids, and bed rest, and the majority will

(01:12:07):
slowly get better. However, if the symptoms get very severe,
you end up seeing a doctor, and in severe cases
you'll end up in hospital for supportive treatment things like
fluids and oxygen and sometimes I see you and things.
So yeah, no treatment and that's actually a very very
important thing to realize about. Dnky fever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Yeah, so you've just got to prevent it. How do
you do that?

Speaker 10 (01:12:30):
Prevention is actually the way to go. So look, I mean, look,
if you are traveling to the su Islands and you're
going to one of the resorts and things, the r
resorts are very good at sort of keeping moskettos away,
So they treat the grass, the areas, no stagnant water,
They do a whole lot of things to prevent mosquados,
so it doesn't tend to be a problem. It's going
outside of the resorts into two areas where mosquitos could

(01:12:53):
be about. That is an issue. So you have to
protect yourself. So that's things like insect repellents, especially repellents
with something called deep in them which stops the mosquitos.
Long sleeve you know, tops or pants are really really
important and during the day actually mosquito yets if you're
in those areas. So it's prevention and mosquito bites are

(01:13:14):
the only thing you can do, and that's you need
to be aware of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Hey, thanks Brian, I appreciate your time. Yeah, yeah, it's
that is fascinating and you know it could become even
more of an issue in years to come in New
Zealand of all places, which is yeah, the concern. Hey,
that's doctor Brian Betty with us this morning ten to
eleven on News Talks. He'd be.

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Speaker 14 (01:13:40):
Rude, Hey Jack, you're all good.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Yeah, I'm very well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Thanks. Hey, Hey, just before we get into things this week,
I don't know about you, but I just watching from
Afar and seeing the news. I have been quite affected
by the by the murder of this young man in Auckland.
Kyle Warrell is this entomologist in Auckland. And you know,
I know that the entomology community isn't the largest community

(01:14:06):
in the world. I just I don't know I as
someone who obviously has dedicated his life and is similarly
passionate about bugs and insects and things. I just I
wondered how you had kind of taken in that news
this week.

Speaker 14 (01:14:19):
It's yeah, it is an awful thing to happen. The
irony is that I don't I did not know know
that guy at all, to be quite honest, and the
reason is because he is based in Auckland. But we
also had earlier this year another entomologist who got or
got killed by some idiots in Blockhouset Bay, and the ironies,

(01:14:41):
I knew him really well, and I knew his tennis
club really well, and et cetera, et cetera, And that
those are the awful things. And so we have talked
to a few entomologists at the moment, because we quite
often go out at night looking for things and suddenly
we think, WHOA yeah, a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's just it's crazy that we would
be having these conversations in New Zealand and five sactly.
So said I just, yeah, where's the respect?

Speaker 14 (01:15:11):
That's it? So, yeah, I totally agree with you. We
we really have to think about it in the future.
I do it a lot with teachers, going outside at
night with the UV torches.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Great fun.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
But but okay, anyway, you're thinking about names this morning.

Speaker 14 (01:15:29):
I'm thinking about names. I'm thinking about tafrina deformants. The
reason is, for instance, that a lot of people say, oh,
we've got this this lovely little trouble on our on
our trees, especially on peaches and things like that, and
how do we work about that? And what are we
doing about that? So I go like, tafrina is the

(01:15:51):
fundus basically that that basically goes onto these particular plants,
and especially especially fruit trees. And the point is now
is the time that you can do something about that,
and that is the important. So what I do with
my pitches is from now on, especially when the leaves

(01:16:13):
are falling, I give them a double dose of copper.
Once I do it again two or three weeks later,
and basically the leaf girl on the pitches will at
this stage become part of the tree. You'll basically be
early on getting read.

Speaker 16 (01:16:30):
Of the of the of the leaf girl by spraying
it right now. And if you've got bloody plum or
plum pocket as they call it, same thing, it is
also a tafrina.

Speaker 14 (01:16:41):
It does the same thing and it actually causes a
lot of trouble on your plants later on in spring.
This is the time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Okay, very good, here, we'll get onto that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense.
All right, you're given the weather starting to turn, it's
probably the time to start focusing on those kinds of things.
Thank you very much, so we will catch you again,
get you very soon. Set a rude climb past and
the garden for us. This morning, after eleven o'clock on
Newstalks EDB, we are going to take a little trip

(01:17:12):
to Salzburg in our travel segment this morning, we're going
to listen to this new music as well from Samantha Fish.
She's got an amazing sound. This kind of there's like
a little sliver of Amy Winehouse and her, but then
she's kind of bluesy and kinds of blue grassy as well.
She's a guitarist, so yeah, you know, play a bit
of that. She's got a brand new album called paper Doll,

(01:17:32):
but we'll pick out a couple of choice tracks and
share those with you very soon as well as that.
If you're looking for a good read this weekend, we
of course have book recommendations, including a book called The
Perfect Divorce, which is just one of those amazing names.
You know that book's just going to do super well
off the title alone. It is almost eleven o'clock though,
News is next yet with Jack Tamet Saturday morning, and

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this is News Talks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
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Speaker 12 (01:18:36):
Maud in a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Good morning you were Jack Tame on News Talks, he'd
be my pleasure to be with you this ANZAC Saturday morning.
I think we can call it that day. Hey, some
fascinating detail has come out of a big legal case
in the US this week. So Mark Zuckerberg and Meta,
the company that I owned Facebook, have been on the
stand in this big antitrust case and there were some

(01:18:59):
numbers that I saw reported out of that which just
blew me away. Basically, they show that social media is
no longer social. Right, So, the whole thing with Facebook,
the whole thing with social media when it was first introduced,
the thing that got so many of us interested in
the first place, was that it was a forum for

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us to all interact with our friends and family. Right.
You think about the first time you got a Facebook account,
and it was an opportunity for you to go and
add your friends and then to talk to them, and
to make posts about different things, and then to react
to your friends different posts. The whole thing was social. Well,
increasingly it isn't. So get this. In the last two years,

(01:19:40):
the amount of time that people spent engaging with content
posted by their friends on Facebook has gone down from
twenty two percent of the time on Facebook to seventeen
So just seventeen percent of the time that people are
spending on Facebook is actually spent engaging with stuff that's
come from their friends. The rest of that time, the
other eighty three percent is content that's just being posted

(01:20:03):
into your feed. Now, some of it might be from
groups you've chosen to follow, or things that you've expressed
interest in, but some of that is just coming randomly
into your feet. On Instagram, it's even more stark so
in the last two years, it's gone from eleven percent
of time spent engaging with posts and friends down to
seven percent. So really, when you think about it, at

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least in Meta's case, in Facebook's case, and honestly, this
is exactly the same, if not more extreme, is the
case on TikTok. They've gone from being social media to
just being media. Right, They are just content machines. They
are basically just big algorithms that don't really have that
much interest in engaging you with your friends. They're really

(01:20:45):
focused on just giving you whatever content will keep you
on that platform for the longest period of time. In anyway,
the reason I raise that is because I have yet
another gripe with Meta. So overnight I got an email
from Professor Rinky Murphy, who is widely respected endochronologist, she's

(01:21:08):
basically a diabetes expert at the University of Auckland, and
she sent me this link to what is a deep
fake video. So this video has been posted on Facebook
in which someone has taken an interview that I did
with Professor Murphy for Q and A, and they've changed
our voices, so the interview looks exactly the same. It's

(01:21:31):
me there standing in a TV studio. Then cuts to
an interview that I did with Rinky, So it's all
really well less. It looks like a professional It looks
like a professional interview, except they've managed with AI to
change the shape of our mouths and change our voices,
so all of a sudden, both Rinky and I have

(01:21:51):
different sounding accents, and the video is very different to
the interview that we originally recorded. In this deep fake,
Rinky urges people to give up their regular diabetes medication
and to pay several hundred dollars for a miracle cure.
Right now, if you have come across this, listen to

(01:22:13):
my words very carefully when I say this. It is
a scam. This is a scam. It is not real.
If you are on diabetes medication, do not stop taking
that regular medication, and certainly do not transfer any money.
It is a scam. Now, it's really really frustrating, I

(01:22:35):
mean for Rinky and me and for many other people
in our position who've been caught up in these kind
of scams. Speaking personally, This is not the first time
I have had my likeness used in a scam on Facebook.
It is far from it, right, I've had my image
use many times before from people, you know, trying to
shell various products and get people who are on Facebook

(01:22:57):
to hand over their credit card details. It is so
frustrating with these things because they pop up time and
time and time again. And I've got to say that
when it comes I'm still a company like Meta with
all of its resources. With Facebook, I just find it
preposterous that they cannot do more to proactively stop this
kind of behavior. So for the time being, at the

(01:23:19):
very least, we have reported this deep fake video, But
then when I click on a link, I'm still able
to see a version of it on Facebook. So I
don't know whether or not it's coming up on other
people's feeds or not. It's you know, it may well be.
For the time being, all I can do is try
and use my public forums like being with You on
Saturday mornings to urge you not to give up your

(01:23:41):
medication and not to hand over any personal information or
to pay several hundred dollars for what's being sold at
the moment as a miracle cure. It is incredibly frustrating.
But even for one of the world's biggest companies like Meta,
these problems just do not seem to stop popping up
from time to time. All right before mid day on
news talk Z'DB, We're going to play some new music

(01:24:03):
from Samantha Fish. She's got a brand new album, Paper Doll.
I never heard of her until this week, but she
sounds fantastic, so really looking forward to that, and very shortly,
our travel correspondent will be here as well. Right now,
though it is thirteen minutes past nine. On New Stalking
Team Clinical Psychologists, Google Sutherland is with us this morning.
He's from Umbrella Well Being of course golda Google cureder.

Speaker 6 (01:24:24):
Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
I'm yeah, well a little bit, you know, frustrated this morning.

Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
But like frustrated, Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
It's just it's a it's appalling. Honestly, these things are
just appalling, and I just cannot believe that for all
of the technology and AI development and all of that stuff,
that companies like Meta can't do more to actually stop
the thing from happening in the first place. I just
I don't find it.

Speaker 21 (01:24:44):
I completely completely agree it's you know, if you if
we put the emphasis on those companies to actually rub
this stuff out, yeah, and you know, prevent children from
under the age of twelve being on. You know, I
think we're rather than that, all the emphasis having to
go on people having to.

Speaker 6 (01:25:01):
Do it themselves. It's just the biggest belief that they
can't do it, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Yeah, I mean, they just have no financial incentive right now,
which is the problem. Anyway, So last time we spoke,
I was talking about being very busy and always doing
a thousand things at once, and that has inspired in
new a topic for this morning, which is the benefits
of doing one thing at a time. And look, Google,
it doesn't take them. It doesn't much to say that
this might be targeted at me.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Well, you know, it was just inspired by our conversation.

Speaker 21 (01:25:30):
I was just reflecting on it because I used to
have a very similar pattern to you, and you know,
doing trying to do three things at once and pack
in as much as you can and brushing my teeth
while you know, combing my hair and listening to a
podcast at the same time whilst keeping the other air
on the news. And actually I think it just adds
to the sense of frenetic busyness, franticness that we have,

(01:25:56):
many of us have in our lives, and being able
to disentangle yourself from that, I think can have some
real benefits just for living you alone life or destressing
taking some of the busyness out of life.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Oh for sure. I mean it's not a virtue, and
I have to remind myself this sometimes, like being busy
isn't a virtue. It's actually like you know, there are
some really significant downsides to it. But it is amazing
how busy our lives have become, especially with that addictive
little electronic device in our pockets. So as an inestimate
from a couple of years ago that we have thirty

(01:26:32):
four gigabytes of information coming at us every day.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
Yeah, that's and that is from a number of years ago.
I was trying to find.

Speaker 21 (01:26:40):
Some more recent figures on that, but I couldn't come
across anything.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
But that was I think a Stanford study that was
done a few years ago saying that.

Speaker 21 (01:26:50):
That's how much they estimate, and I'm sure that is
more now. And you know, Spark, going back to your
comments just previously around social media, which not really social anymore,
but just that influx of information, and you know, it's
always coming at us, always.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Coming at us.

Speaker 21 (01:27:08):
And I'm not you know, I'm not a love eye tie.
I've got a phone and I'm on social media, and
I've used iPads and computers, but it's just can be overwhelming.
And I think we get into the pattern of always
being on and always trying to juggle, and always doing
three things at once. And I'm not sure that that's
actually all that helpful, to be honest with.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
You, No, I tend to agree. You know, it's you know,
there are obvious kind of negative effects on well being, right,
You've always got that kind of low level of stress,
and you know, I just find that like like busyness
kind of breeds busyness, and it kind of you know,
when you're addicted to your phone and someone's you know,
and you're having conversation with someone and then you just
find yourself reaching for it and kind of scrolling mindlessly

(01:27:49):
in a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Like, it's really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
It's bad for relationships, man. So anyway, you've got three
tips this morning, practical things that we can do to
try and focus on one thing at a time. Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:28:01):
Yeah, absolutely, Look firstly and We've discussed mindfulness before and
many many people I'm sure listening will have heard of mindfulness,
but i'd encourage people to dig.

Speaker 6 (01:28:12):
Into that a little bit more.

Speaker 21 (01:28:14):
That's it's a lot, it's more than people think it is,
and it's it's.

Speaker 6 (01:28:21):
One of the one of the benefits of it.

Speaker 21 (01:28:23):
I always think about mindfulness actually is a bit like
an onion, is that you know, there's layers and layers,
and the more you do, the more you kind of
understand it and appreciate it. One of the benefits, I
think is just learning to notice when your mind has
where your awareness has drifted onto something else and allow
yourself to bring it back to just doing one thing

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at a time and acknowledging that we will get distracted
and that's okay, but just bringing back the control of
your awareness. So you're just going to do this one
thing at a time, whatever, that one thing and so
I think that's that's the first tip. Okay, second second
would be and a little bit inspired by you our

(01:29:04):
conversation from a couple of weeks ago. You know, you
around you brushing teeth and listening to your podcast, etc.
Get into the practice or the habit of just doing
a task, a daily task might be something like, you know,
brushing your teeth, or getting dressed, or even cycling or
walking or doing the dishes.

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
Just do that task.

Speaker 21 (01:29:27):
So practice doing that one thing and just noticing all
the different components of this. So if you're brushing your
teeth and it sounds a little bit kind of people
might be going with the ex that's going to do
about but you know, noticing the taste of toothpaste, noticing
the feel of in your mouth, noticing, noticing all those aspects,

(01:29:48):
Noticing when your mind drifts off and it goes to
something else, and just practice bringing it back.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
So there's nothing magic about brushing your.

Speaker 21 (01:29:55):
Teeth or doing the dishes or going for a walk necessarily,
but it is that practice, that habit of actually noticing
your mind drifting away, getting distracted by other things, and
bringing it back just to this one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Yeah, your third tip is an absolute doozy, a classic.
This is this is something a little bit left field.

Speaker 21 (01:30:17):
Oh look it's and you know, I've got to be honest,
I'm not being paid for this endorsement in any way,
shape or form. But my daughter and I my daughter
is home for the Easter weekend, from Union Auckland and
we just heard I don't know, we came across this.
It's Moose TV basically, and it's Swedish slow TV. And

(01:30:40):
I'm sure many people have heard of slow TV, but
this is a these It's about thirty cameras on Swedish
TV running twenty four to seven and you can log on,
you can go to the website and watch it yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:30:54):
You don't have to be in Sweden.

Speaker 21 (01:30:55):
And it's essentially thirty cameras that are tracking migrating moose
across a river. And at last count I just checked
about half an hour ago, sixty four moose had crossed
over the past about fourteen or fifteen days.

Speaker 6 (01:31:10):
So that gives you the sense of how. But there's
just something.

Speaker 21 (01:31:13):
I honestly can almost feel my blood pressure reduced just
by sitting there watching it, because there's these beautiful scenes
of Swedish fewords and rivers and nothing. I've got to
be honest, nothing much is happening for most of that time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
It's just it's just.

Speaker 21 (01:31:29):
Pictures of forest or a river, and occasionally you see
most if you're very lucky, but it's yeah, it's just
really and it's just like ah, I can almost just
feel I'm just watching this one thing.

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
I've not got ads coming in. I'm not switching. It's
just this thing.

Speaker 21 (01:31:46):
So I think it's on for about four or five
more days, so people can go and check it out
if they're interested in that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I love it. There's such a good idea, doogle. I'm
going to give it a crack. I swear, hey, thank
you so much. We will get up very soon. Google
Sutherland from Umbrella Well being there. It's twenty past eleven,
non news Storks.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
He'd be travel with Windy Woo Tours Where the World
is Yours book now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Twenty three past eleven. On news talks, he'd be Mackyard
these our travel corresponding. He's here this morning, Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
Mike, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Jack.

Speaker 19 (01:32:18):
All lies on St. Peter's Square tonight. How do you
think Rome's hotels are well?

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Interesting? You asked that because as soon as you know,
the news came through, I was on I was on
breakfast this week, so I was getting up and doing
in the early morning shifts, and the news came through
what like eight thirty or so on Monday night, and
I thought, oh, it'll be interesting to see if our
correspondent can hot tail it from London to Rome by
the time we're on here tomorrow morning, and whether or

(01:32:44):
not they'll be able to get her to get her
a hotel and any and she was there fine, made
it with penty of time and got a hotel. But yes,
I suspect there might have been a little bit of
surge pricing, just a just a hunt, just a little hunch. Yeah,
and my mind met that Christopher Luxan's and like a
you know, the standard the standards hotel. He's probably in
like a three and a half star or something. You know.

Speaker 19 (01:33:05):
Well, I'd say he's via Veneto, where all the luxury
hotels up. But interestingly, according to booking dot Com, at
the moment, Rome is ninety five percent full of The
amazing thing is and I've always found this incredible about Rome.
They have ninety eight thousand hotel rooms in that sitting.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Ah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
I think it isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:33:26):
I don't think anything could sell it out because yeah,
the inventory is just so massive.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Yeah, Wow, that's incredible. Okay, Yeah, it'll be amazing to
watch that funeral tonight just after eight o'clock New Zealand,
of course, but we're turning our attention this morning to
a location just down the road relatively speaking, and Salzburg.
So Salzburg sort of feels kind of like it was
kind of made for tourism.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Ah, totally.

Speaker 19 (01:33:51):
It's it's as if tourism's planets were just perfectly aligned
over Salzburg, because you've got that perfectly preserved old town.
You've got amazing gardens, Baroque churches, one of Europe's largest
and medieval fortresses, all cradled in Alpine grandeur. And then
overlay that jack with its music, Meca status, Wolfgang Amadas,

(01:34:15):
Mozart and of course the von Traps.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
So it really has all the elements.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
So where would you go to get a good sense
of Mozart's life.

Speaker 19 (01:34:24):
Well, I think the main shopping street is we should
head first, because that's where you will find Mozart's family home.
He's got this fabulous pestle painted townhouse and that's where
he lived for most of his life, twenty five of
his thirty five years. He died of kidney disease at yeah,
a ridiculously young age. But inside that townhouse there are
so many amazing artifacts, like you can see his childhood viola,

(01:34:48):
the square piano he played on the claver chord, on
which he composed his final work, Requiem, which was played
for his own funeral. There is this stunning cafe about
three hundred and fifty years old called Cafe Tomasselli. He
was a regular via Jack and Man. He was ahead
of the he was very partial to almond milk.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Oh wow, so way ahead of the trends.

Speaker 19 (01:35:13):
Yes, and of course in a city swollen with his music,
there are just so many concert halls every night that
just before Mozart's music. Best of all, though, Jack Mozart Kogle,
these are well sort of Mozart immortalized in chocolate. They're
a mash up of chocolate, pistachio and Marsipan Mozart balls.

(01:35:37):
Definitely get your fill of his balls.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Wow, yes, yes, so to speak. What about the sound
of music.

Speaker 19 (01:35:46):
Well, this is the amazing thing about Saltzburg. Despite the
movie's oscars acclaim, it is still really unfamiliar to a
lot of Europeans. And the reason for that was when
it was released, much of Central and Eastern Europe didn't
screen it because its Nazi themes were deemed too raw,

(01:36:08):
too soon for movie audiences. So a lot of locals
in Salzburg. Yes, they'll see the souvenirs, but they'll have
no affinity or knowledge of the of the movie itself.
So yeah, many Austrians never heard of it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
It's what like the sixtieth anniversary of that film, Mate.

Speaker 19 (01:36:25):
It is incredible, and it's estimated that even though the
locals aren't really up with the play with the sound
of music, forty percent of visitors to Saltzburg are lured
there by the movie ringing in its ears. So it
is very much, you know, the Lord of the Rings
Austrian style. And there are just so many incredible movie

(01:36:46):
locations where you feel like you've just walked into the movie,
particularly places like Mirabelle Gardens. You know where they did
the do rey Me piece in the movie. It is
just as it was back in nineteen sixty five. Non
Burg Abbey. There are still twenty seven Benedictine nuns in
that abby and even though you can't actually see much

(01:37:09):
of the abbey, you can go inside the church and
if you go there at six forty five in the
morning jet you can actually hear the nuns perform near
daily Gregorian chants.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Maria not included, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
To say, also countless time. So what about dining destinations
where is good for a taste of Salzburg.

Speaker 19 (01:37:30):
Yes, well, aside from binging on mosart balls, it's hard
to be stiff to scaleless and pizza. Now, these are
the sellers of Saint Peter's Abbey and it may well
be the oldest operating restaurant in Europe. So you've got
this sort of like cave like cloister setting in this
restaurant and they have been serving diner's jack since eight

(01:37:52):
hundred and three. Ad isn't that craze? They do really
good schnitzel with parsley potatoes and cranberry confie. Really good
spinish dumplings, by the way, But wherever you dine in
the city, Salzburger knock on is a staple dessert that

(01:38:13):
you've got to absolutely stuff yourself with. So this is
this gigantic sweet soup fle It salutes the three peaks
that backdrop the city, and it's got cranberry confee icing
sugar topped. It's so big the souflay i reckon you
could virtually ski jump off it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
It is just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Yeah, oh so good so beyond town, do you have
any recommended excursions?

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
Yes.

Speaker 19 (01:38:40):
Well, when I was there a couple of weeks ago
with Trafalgar, we jaunted to the Bejeweled Lakes district of Austria.
Absolutely stunning, very much like the Southern Lakes of New
Zealands because they glacially fed, so you get those very
vivid turquoise and milky blue colors.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
One of the best spots is Munsie.

Speaker 19 (01:38:59):
It's a church there, gorgeous Benedicting church was where the
marriage of Maria and the Baron was filmed. And the
sound of music. But every summer I laughed about this.
There's a Saudi shake. He jets into Monzi every summer
to his lake house and he brings with him twenty
three wives.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
That would take some wrangling.

Speaker 4 (01:39:18):
Jack.

Speaker 19 (01:39:21):
Just across the border from Salzburg into Germany and the
Bavarian Alps, we took a ride up Germany's highest mountain road.
It takes you up two thousand meters from Auba Salzburg.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Oh Man, two thousand Okay, it is pretty high, like
Mount Hutt really are ye? Yes, Like that's kind of
where Hitler's Eagle's nest is local today.

Speaker 19 (01:39:44):
Yeah, it is, and that's really the attraction as such.
It is still standing. Allied bomb is mis hitting it.
They wanted to knock it out, but they missed it.
But it was the fiftieth birthday present from Hitler's in
a circle and it's perched alone amid alpine splendor. It's

(01:40:05):
kind of like a Bond villain's leah when you first
clap eyes on it, this lodge just looming out of
the mountaintops.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
So today it's a restaurant and they have got a.

Speaker 19 (01:40:15):
Memorial war there decrying the abject horrors of its previous owner.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
But the setting itself. Check it seriously is pinched yourself stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Yeah, that sounds really interesting. Okay, cool, Hey, thank you
so much, Mike. We'll make sure all of Mike's advice
on soaking up Saltz book is on the news Talks.
He'd be website Newstalks, he'd be dot code Oliens ed
Ford slash Lifestyle. You'll be able to find his article
right there. It is twenty eight minutes to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on Newstalks, b.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Gets News Talk. It'd be twenty five minutes to twelve.
Jason Pine is behind the make this afternoon for a
weekend sport killed a piny up. Hey, let's start off
with Super Rugby and some interesting results last night. I mean,

(01:41:20):
the Chiefs ended up running away with things at Bay Oval.
But I cannot get over that try from Harry Potter
from the Force. I know, it's always weird when you
say that. I mean, I know Alisa Simpson as well,
so you know. Anyway, it's funny how they think heaven.
But there's I think a fear bit of concern in
the Blues camp with that result this morning.

Speaker 20 (01:41:39):
Yeah, I would say so, it's kind of I mean,
they're not necessarily drinking at the Last Chance Saloon, but
they do have to get a bit of a wriggle
on the Blues. You look at their runnin though, Jack,
and it's not the most onerous the Force, the Drewermana,
Pacifica and the Warratars. So on their day the Blues

(01:41:59):
can beat all four of those sides with the bonus points.
So there are still twenty points on the table for
them to look to. And you look at the table
at the moment, and even though they're ninth, there are
only four points outside the top six, So that's the
rose tinted part of it. The other part of this, though,
is that now they've lost to the Crusaders and the
Reds and consecutive weeks. Last week, I think they were

(01:42:20):
probably a little bit unlucky in some ways not to
come away with the win against the Crusaders, but I
think they were second best last night. I watched large
parts of that game and I wasn't really that impressed
with the Blues that I'm honest with you, So.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Look, they do have a bit of work to do.

Speaker 20 (01:42:36):
The Chiefs, on the other hand, went to Bayoval and
almost ran up a crickets core at Bayoval, yeah fifty six.
I was so impressed with Josh Jacob at first five
and for Damien McKenzie, who's got a bit of a
hand injury. A guy like Josh jakins interesting, you know
he went, he's at the Chiefs. He sees Damien McKenzie,
one of the best first fives in the world, almost

(01:42:58):
blocking his way to the team. A lot of other
guys have gone, you know what, I'll go somewhere else
and tryma like somewhere else. Instead, he stayed. He's played
in every game this year, all ten of them, six
starts four off the bench, and has probably become an
immeasurably better player just by being in the company of
Damien McKenzie.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
You know, yeah, yeah, no, very much. So I agree. Well,
I think the premious plate, I mean, mathematically you would
have to say it is like ninety nine point ninety
seven percent Auckland f C's already. But tomorrow is of
course a big match where hopefully they will sew that
up comprehensively and we won't need to debate it anymore.
How do you feeling about that?

Speaker 14 (01:43:36):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:43:36):
Look, I'm delighted for the playing group, delighted for the
coaching staff, delighted for everybody associated with a football club really,
and I've chatted a lot about this, Jack. You know,
what they've done very quickly is engaged the football community
of the Auckland region where was clearly waiting for a
team like this to come along, and have have done brilliantly.

(01:43:57):
I mean, two losses in twenty four games, crowds of
an average of sort of sixteen seventeen thousand. They're talking
about another sal out there tomorrow to watch the Premier's
Plate actually being lifted by the team. I mean, you're right,
it's almost it's almost certain now I know the Premier's
plate will certainly be at go Media Stadium tomorrow. So
if they do complete the job they've got to get

(01:44:18):
only got to get a points against against the bottom side.
You know that they should be lifting that silver where
all things being equal, around seven o'clock tomorrow evening. So yeah,
I can't wait for that. Well, we'll do a lot
a lot about that on the show tomorrow. But yeah, no,
good on the mate, good on them.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
What's on the show?

Speaker 20 (01:44:33):
This doesn'tnoon, butsual Josh Jacob, I mention him because I'm
going to chat to him this afternoon. I want to
find out about whether he thought, hey, you know what,
I'll move away or or whether he always was going
to stay. So we'll talk to Josh Jacob. Adam Pompey
out of the Warriors Goodwin in christ Church last night. Yeah,
a couple of tries for Adam Pompey. I'm sure he's pleased.
So he'll have a chat to us. And the big
story of the week is this New Zealand cricket thing. Jack,

(01:44:56):
you know, the the the investments in the North American franchise,
the Major League Cricket franchise. What does this mean for
the cricket fan. I've heard a lot of chat about,
you know, what it means for New Zealand cricket and
their balance sheet, the opportunities for players, for us as fans,
what does it actually mean? And some other bits and

(01:45:16):
pieces too. So the Man at the top of the tree,
Scott winning just after midday on that and one of
my favorite sporting events every year, the World Snooker Championship.
Unfortunately you can't watch it here in New Zealand unless
you buy a subscription, which I've done. But we're going
to get to the Crucible after two o'clock to chat
about the first week and prospects for the second week
of the World Sticker champions.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Very good, Oh busy show this afternoon, Thank you sir.
That's Jason Pine with us right after the midday news
with Weekend Sport. Before midday, of course, we've got that
new album from Samantha Fish and next up we're going
to tell you about the Perfect Divorce.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News Talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
Eighteen to twelve on News Talks, They'd be Katherine Rains
has two recommendations for our book picks this week. Ay
Catherine Jack looking forward to these this morning. Let's begin
with a new book by Geneva Rose tell Us about
The Perfect Divorce.

Speaker 9 (01:46:08):
So this is a psychological thriller with quite a dark storyline.
And Sarah Morgan is married to Bob Miller and they're
having a child that they have a child together, but
Sarah catches Bob having a one night stand and immediately
files the divorce and custody of their daughter. And then
mixed in this the story as a corrupt cop and
he's responsible for some pretty disastrous investigation in Sarah's past

(01:46:31):
and now he's been arrested for a dui resulting in death,
and Sarah turns out to be his lawyer. And then
there's Stacy Howard and she's the woman at the center
of Sarah's divorce and she's vanished and Bob accuses Sarah
of being involved, and so the stakes are really raised.

Speaker 14 (01:46:48):
At this point.

Speaker 9 (01:46:49):
Is Sarah doing the manipulating or is her ex husband?
So you get this great domestic thriller, and it's quite
twisted with some very suspicious individuals and some quite unhinged behavior,
I have to say. And it's written in multiple points
of view, so you're never quite sure where the story's
going or who's telling the truth. So yeah, lots of
kind of read hearings thrown in there, but yeah, good story.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
Okay, that's the Perfect Divorces by Geneva Rose. You've also
read Paris Express by Emma Donahue.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
So this is.

Speaker 9 (01:47:17):
Based on a historical event, an eighteen ninety five train
disaster at the Paris Last train station, and it captured
at this disaster had been captured for history and a.

Speaker 14 (01:47:27):
Series of photographs.

Speaker 6 (01:47:29):
But the story begins.

Speaker 9 (01:47:30):
At eight thirty am with an embankment at Granville station
on the Normandy coast, and as the train moves along
on its three hundred and fifty kilometer journey towards Paris,
you get the stations and the people that are boarding,
who are all imagined, but you get rail workers and
families and artists and writers to this whole gambit of
French society.

Speaker 13 (01:47:50):
And then so because of.

Speaker 9 (01:47:51):
That, you get a lot of commentary on different things
that are going out on the in French in France
at the time. So about apperilysm and economic instability and
gender and class and racism and the emergency of new technology.
So these carrots is on the trainer weaved into this
narrative in quite symbolic of the time. And as the
train there's Paris, the action becomes much more fast paced,

(01:48:13):
and the commentary on the characters' lives becomes more intense,
and motivations are revealed and author humor. Em Donahue is
really good at taking a piece of history and winding
it into a really interesting novel, which is what you
get with The Paris Express.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Okay, that's Paris Express by Emma Donahue. Catherine's first book,
The Perfect Divorce by Geneva Rose. We'll have all of
the details for both of those up on the news
talks he'd be website, and a couple of minutes, We've
got new music for you by Samantha Fish.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
It's called it a twelve, giving you the inside scoop
on all you need to Know Saturday Mornings with Jack
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supplements use talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
This is paper Doll. It's a song by Samantha Fish.
She's got a new album called Paper Doll and Estelle.
Clifford has been listening. Hey is Stelle, How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
Yeah? Good?

Speaker 22 (01:49:26):
What a fine?

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Well, so, okay, this is bad. This is bad. So
you say, what a find. I've just got a kick
from my dad, Jack. I have been raving on to
you for the last eighteen months about Samantha Fish exclamation mark,
exclamation mark, exclamation mark. You should see her play cigar
cigar box, guitar slide, exclamation mark, exclamation mark she played

(01:49:49):
in New Zealand and twenty thirteen exclamation mark, exclamation mark,
exclamation mark. I mean he'sn't bad about it at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's not at all annoyed. Well, I would gently remind
my dad that once upon a time, many years ago,
I went to him and said, had there's this new
band called Coldplay who sound quite good. I think we
might like at them, And he said they're rubbish. And
then about two years later he came to me and said, oh, actually,

(01:50:10):
this band Coldplay sounds right. You should listen to them.
So I consider that square, Dad, consider a vibe. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so yes, sometimes for those of us who.

Speaker 22 (01:50:18):
Are yes outside your family, you need a little nudge
outside the game. Samantha Fish is this amazing based in
Louisiana rock chick. She's actually bluesy vibe. Yeah yeah, right right, right,
right right, got ya. But but but this album here,
there's a bit more of that rock stuff and yes,
that whole box guitar thing like wild and I think

(01:50:42):
where she has really found her feet Samantha Fish is
that she she does a really incredible live shows because
she's playing instruments like that that you're like, whoa this is?

Speaker 15 (01:50:52):
This is fire.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
So just to be get a cigar like a cbchas
like it's like a guitar made out of a cigar
box basically, yeah, totally like.

Speaker 22 (01:50:59):
That's how they made instruments right out of whatever you
could find, and then it makes us really cool sound
and then you you catapult on that. I think that
from the light the live sound that she's got, she's
now managed to put that into an album. I think
the last couple of albums I've listened to hers, they've
had this about them, but they haven't been quite as
sort of raw and full on. I think also with
this album, she has recorded it with her touring band,

(01:51:22):
so they're used to playing live together. So there's a
bit more of that riff and jamming kind of sound
to it, which I think is really cool, and a
lot of it just has that absolute energy where she's
just powering it out. She wanted, she said she wanted
to just sing a lungs out. She just wanted to
do an album where she just cranked it and went
for her and so she's definitely achieved that. There's a

(01:51:43):
little bit of a connection here where one of the songs,
I just can't get this out of my head because
if you ask me, the songs called don't say it,
but I think it has a little bit of a
crowded house kind of sound behind it. We've got a
little We've got a little bit if you want to, Yeah,
dar well, like I just got the sawmy with you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Yeah, yeah, it does.

Speaker 22 (01:52:09):
You're right, definitely, And I think it stood out because
it has that little, rolling, pretty melody guitar, with the
rest of the album has a lot more of that real,
going hard kind of guitar. But I was like, oh,
there you go. I mean, if she's been influenced slightly
by our crowded house, will take it, won't we?

Speaker 4 (01:52:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Yeah, I like that I think it's gonna sound yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:52:27):
Yeah, But everything else she really has got this. I
think her lyrics you can really connect to us with
what she's saying about sometimes the world isn't clear, but
I'm finding my own path and pushing on through. That
is on one of my favorite songs that's on this album.
I really I love hearing her thundering delivery. I think
there's the best way to kind of put it, but
it still has that old school Americana undertone, you know,

(01:52:51):
but like with a fresh female lead. And to me,
she's just as strong vocally as she is with like
slick electric guitar runs. And also, I don't think you
necessarily have to know her back catalog like bless your Dad,
go back if you can, but you don't have to
go that. You can jump straight in with this album,
and I think really enjoy what she's got to say

(01:53:12):
and what she's sounding.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
Like.

Speaker 22 (01:53:14):
She needs to come to New Zealand. I'd really love
to see her lie because I love this jamming sort
of rock blues thing that she's got going on. Yeah yeah,
twenty thirteen, Like that's kind of a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
Well, Dad's just teaching me again. To say. She is
a very big dad seems to know a lot about
Samantha version and she's got a very busy work schedule.
So hopefully if she's doing a lot, then she can.

Speaker 22 (01:53:36):
Can get is her support crew or something?

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
Well yes, yeah, I mean I think he is a
big fan, maybe involved with the Nelson Tasman Blues Club
as well. Yeah, so there you go. If she's going
to perform anywhere, there you go, Dad, I'll put in
a word people, Yeah, there we go, get her performing
a Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:53:54):
The single Fortune Teller is a highlight. It has this
really cool drop in the chorus, quite badass tone, and
then halfway through the song it completely changes tempo and
you think you're in a different track, but it's the
same one. So definitely get amongst Fortune. Don't say it
with the whole crowded house kind of vibe. But also
my favorite on the album is called I'm Done Running.
Oh yeah, cool, absolute standout. It's kind of been one

(01:54:15):
of the lead singles, and I think it's one that
everyone can can get amongst.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
It's really good, right, that's the one we've picked out
to play next or play them. Yeah, that's cool. So
what do you give it.

Speaker 22 (01:54:25):
I'm giving a Oh this is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Hard knowing that my dad is listening.

Speaker 22 (01:54:29):
Oh shall we just give them a team?

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Should we make them?

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Chell proud of himself. He found this for you, John
found this. There you go, Thank you, Dad. Ten out
of ten from a Style Clifford not at all influenced
by your recommendation, but somewhat influenced by your recommendation if
you like. Definitely a ten out of ten in Dad's books,
and a ten out of ten and the steals as well.
Looking forward to having a bit more of a listener
in a couple of minutes. I'm sorry, Dad, I should

(01:54:52):
have done it much earlier. Stelle, thank you very much.
Pleasure rock on Style Clifford is our music reviewer. Paper
Doll is the album from Samantha Fish at seven to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
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Jack and bpewre dot co dot insiet for high quality supplements,
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Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
B We are being kicked out of here to make
way for Jason Pine and Weekend Sport this afternoon. Thank
you very much for tuning in and for all your
messages this morning. Go to the news talks. He'd be
website for everything from our show, and thanks as always
to my wonderful producer Libby for doing all the tough stuff.
We're gonna leave you with Samantha Fish. Her new album
is Paper Doll. This is I'm done Running in the Mirror,

(01:55:55):
snuping clear.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
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