August 22, 2025 • 6 mins
Haydn Jones is a little late to the trend, but this week he started baking sourdough.
Falling in between the craft beer and veggie garden stages, nothing says you’ve hit middle-aged quite like a sourdough starter.
This was exemplified for Haydn by the visit he and his friend made to Briscoes on their hunt for a good baking dish.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks a b.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Sixteen minutes past nine on News Talks by Jack. You
are one hundred percent right. Don Mcglashan's everywhere at the
moment's so good. I was at the CSO concert last
Saturday night. It was superb so oh who whoa whoa
good on stage with this trusty euphonium keyboard and guitar.
He's just such a versatile musician and poets still humming
Dominion Road to myself a week later. Thank you so
much for a great night, Don, says Anne love it.
(00:35):
Thanks An ninety two. If you want to get in touch,
Hayden Jones is with us this morning, but not sidelined.
Don't tell me you've been banned.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Hato, no, no, no, we've got late game late Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
What's a late game for your son's football team?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Teen thirty? Oh yeah, teen thirty in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, because our eight year old has eight am kickoffs,
which that's well. See, I think that's when I remember.
I have these memories of playing rugby on Hagley Park
or like Waltham Park as a kid in christ Church,
where you know, you know, you turn up for an
eight am kickoff as like an eight year old, and
the frost would be so strong that steam would be
(01:12):
coming off the earth. You know that, you know that,
as the you know the kind of as the whatever,
the frost started to dissipate, and then you'd run out
onto the pitch. You'd be absolutely freezing cold. You go
into the first ruck of the game, and then someone
with their studded boots would stamp on your toe. And
I still don't know if I've ever experienced pain like that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Anyway, I grew up, and I grew up in the Southland,
and those boys from the Tolder didn't have boots. They
did it in be a fee and aside. He is
on the let's work close to mustaches and mullets and
always won by fifty points. There you go, joy, Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Anyway, so you've been warming yourself up this week a
little bit, you have. I've got to be honest, Hayter.
You're a little late to the crazy. You've started baking sour.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, look, nothing says you're a middle aged man. Like
the stage in your life where you start baking sodo.
You know, long after sort of the craft beer stage
before the Vegie Garden stage. Yes, soda was kind of
a it's in and there on that you've hit middle aged.
Who was My kids like to call it Boomertown. Nothing
really says middle age Like me and a friend from
(02:21):
down the road who's got to kill a recipe? He said,
come with me. So we went to kind of a
hospice shop and they didn't have quite what we needed.
In browsing two men, browsing the aisles of farmers and men,
of course, we ended up where every human ends up
Briscoes and brought my first Dutch oven.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh, I've got hang on, do you cook sowdo on
a Dutch oven?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well as him south and I thowt a Dutch oven
was like something you did under the blankets to your
bed mate who was sleeping over. But no, it's a
cast iron cassehole dish yees yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Is that a Dutch oven?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Though?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Is a Dutch of here? It's got the lid right.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, look, I'm relying on I've only got one source
of truth. A sou's my mate down the road people
have a Dutch oven. It's a Dutch over.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think it is. I think it is a Dutch
oven another ones you mean, I've got one of two.
They're good for making like slow cook meats. Oh, if
you want to make like a pulled beef, there's a particular.
If you want to make pul beef tacos, you need
about six hours maybe one twin. You just do it
low and slow, baby, that's how you do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Sorry, you know, you know when we were like kids
on the news, well, and I never thought that we
would end up doing a radio cooking show.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Really it's yeah, it's the like the middle aged dad's
cooking class with Hato and Jack.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh my god, Hey, play out your phone. Have you
got your phone in the studio? Yeah, pull out your
phone and opened up your photo gallery, because my photo
gallery is kind of gone from sort of meals away
out and maybe you know, drinking times and my buddies
or photos of my kids to just photos of sourdough.
You how, and the listeners can do this at home
as well. But if you open up your photo gallery,
and that tells you what stage of life you're in.
(03:55):
So what stage are you in? Martin?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You've got yeah, minor photos of my kids, like spewing
on themselves basically just spewing all guests, you know, like
spearing on their mums, spearing on their grandmasping on the neighbor.
It's basically just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So that's a stage of life you're in. Then people
will be opening their phones around your Zella and white
Man and going, oh, I'm at that stage. So I'm
at the sourdough stage. Very happy.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, I mean I think it's a good stage. It's
a healthy stage. So are you now keeping the sour
dough alive?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yes, I've got a starter called it Stewart.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right, very good. Why Stuart just a stister?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well yeah, just alliteration, the yeah TV news alliterations. That's
how we wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I like it. I'm into it. So you've done,
You've done the sour do I'm wondering what the next
craze is going to be for you. You don't do
the beer brewing or anything like that. You've probably already
done that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, I had to go at beer brewing. But we
made one that I quite like at the start, and
I was happy with that, and then my friends wanted
to keep making different ones. I got steadily worse, and
I just wanted to go back, because I was more
about just drinking beer, whereas they were about experimenting.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, right, okay, I reckon, I reckon. If it's the
stage of life thing, you've probably got two years of
sour dough making, then the wood turning crazy begin. It's coming.
It's an expensive one too, so you got to be careful.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No power. It's been a tough week for me. Actually,
I had hearing test, so it's been a real sort
of move to had a hearing test. I've got perfect hearing,
but my wife's is atally listening. That was actually the problems.
That was a waste of time. My daughter got a
driver's license, which kind of you know, that means I'm
one to set close to being driven around by my kids.
It's coming.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's coming, bro, it really is.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, And I've got you do you own one of
those little chili bans that hold like four to six beers,
and when you go to dinner parties, everyone's got a
little chilibin that they take with them just so you
can have a couple of drinks, but then you've got
a lot on the next day, so you can't go overboard.
That's kind of a real middle age life.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's good. This is good. It's all about balance, Hayting,
this is this is necessarily Hey, I'm glad that you've
made it to the stage. I look forward to tasting
some of this. Don't be shy about sending through a
couple of photos. Will chuck them on the website so
people can evaluate your efforts.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh my goodness, this is rich coming from me. You're
Peter Pan of television news. So being told.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Him spoken like someone who hasn't seen me after his
son woke him up at halfas three this morning. Thought
like you say, it's all stage. Thank you so much,
Beast of luck for your ten thirty kickoff. We'll still
talk to you again very soon. Hato car there is
Hayden Jones make a sado for us this week and
kicking off the show on Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News Talks 'd B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks a b.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Sixteen minutes past nine on News Talks by Jack. You
are one hundred percent right. Don Mcglashan's everywhere at the
moment's so good. I was at the CSO concert last
Saturday night. It was superb so oh who whoa whoa
good on stage with this trusty euphonium keyboard and guitar.
He's just such a versatile musician and poets still humming
Dominion Road to myself a week later. Thank you so
much for a great night, Don, says Anne love it.
(00:35):
Thanks An ninety two. If you want to get in touch,
Hayden Jones is with us this morning, but not sidelined.
Don't tell me you've been banned.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Hato, no, no, no, we've got late game late Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
What's a late game for your son's football team?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Teen thirty? Oh yeah, teen thirty in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, because our eight year old has eight am kickoffs,
which that's well. See, I think that's when I remember.
I have these memories of playing rugby on Hagley Park
or like Waltham Park as a kid in christ Church,
where you know, you know, you turn up for an
eight am kickoff as like an eight year old, and
the frost would be so strong that steam would be
(01:12):
coming off the earth. You know that, you know that,
as the you know the kind of as the whatever,
the frost started to dissipate, and then you'd run out
onto the pitch. You'd be absolutely freezing cold. You go
into the first ruck of the game, and then someone
with their studded boots would stamp on your toe. And
I still don't know if I've ever experienced pain like that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Anyway, I grew up, and I grew up in the Southland,
and those boys from the Tolder didn't have boots. They
did it in be a fee and aside. He is
on the let's work close to mustaches and mullets and
always won by fifty points. There you go, joy, Oh
my goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Anyway, so you've been warming yourself up this week a
little bit, you have. I've got to be honest, Hayter.
You're a little late to the crazy. You've started baking sour.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, look, nothing says you're a middle aged man. Like
the stage in your life where you start baking sodo.
You know, long after sort of the craft beer stage
before the Vegie Garden stage. Yes, soda was kind of
a it's in and there on that you've hit middle aged.
Who was My kids like to call it Boomertown. Nothing
really says middle age Like me and a friend from
(02:21):
down the road who's got to kill a recipe? He said,
come with me. So we went to kind of a
hospice shop and they didn't have quite what we needed.
In browsing two men, browsing the aisles of farmers and men,
of course, we ended up where every human ends up
Briscoes and brought my first Dutch oven.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh, I've got hang on, do you cook sowdo on
a Dutch oven?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well as him south and I thowt a Dutch oven
was like something you did under the blankets to your
bed mate who was sleeping over. But no, it's a
cast iron cassehole dish yees yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Is that a Dutch oven?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Though?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Is a Dutch of here? It's got the lid right.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, look, I'm relying on I've only got one source
of truth. A sou's my mate down the road people
have a Dutch oven. It's a Dutch over.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think it is. I think it is a Dutch
oven another ones you mean, I've got one of two.
They're good for making like slow cook meats. Oh, if
you want to make like a pulled beef, there's a particular.
If you want to make pul beef tacos, you need
about six hours maybe one twin. You just do it
low and slow, baby, that's how you do it anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Sorry, you know, you know when we were like kids
on the news, well, and I never thought that we
would end up doing a radio cooking show.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Really it's yeah, it's the like the middle aged dad's
cooking class with Hato and Jack.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh my god, Hey, play out your phone. Have you
got your phone in the studio? Yeah, pull out your
phone and opened up your photo gallery, because my photo
gallery is kind of gone from sort of meals away
out and maybe you know, drinking times and my buddies
or photos of my kids to just photos of sourdough.
You how, and the listeners can do this at home
as well. But if you open up your photo gallery,
and that tells you what stage of life you're in.
(03:55):
So what stage are you in? Martin?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You've got yeah, minor photos of my kids, like spewing
on themselves basically just spewing all guests, you know, like
spearing on their mums, spearing on their grandmasping on the neighbor.
It's basically just yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So that's a stage of life you're in. Then people
will be opening their phones around your Zella and white
Man and going, oh, I'm at that stage. So I'm
at the sourdough stage. Very happy.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, I mean I think it's a good stage. It's
a healthy stage. So are you now keeping the sour
dough alive?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yes, I've got a starter called it Stewart.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right, very good. Why Stuart just a stister?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well yeah, just alliteration, the yeah TV news alliterations. That's
how we wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I like it. I'm into it. So you've done,
You've done the sour do I'm wondering what the next
craze is going to be for you. You don't do
the beer brewing or anything like that. You've probably already
done that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
No, I had to go at beer brewing. But we
made one that I quite like at the start, and
I was happy with that, and then my friends wanted
to keep making different ones. I got steadily worse, and
I just wanted to go back, because I was more
about just drinking beer, whereas they were about experimenting.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, right, okay, I reckon, I reckon. If it's the
stage of life thing, you've probably got two years of
sour dough making, then the wood turning crazy begin. It's coming.
It's an expensive one too, so you got to be careful.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
No power. It's been a tough week for me. Actually,
I had hearing test, so it's been a real sort
of move to had a hearing test. I've got perfect hearing,
but my wife's is atally listening. That was actually the problems.
That was a waste of time. My daughter got a
driver's license, which kind of you know, that means I'm
one to set close to being driven around by my kids.
It's coming.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's coming, bro, it really is.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, And I've got you do you own one of
those little chili bans that hold like four to six beers,
and when you go to dinner parties, everyone's got a
little chilibin that they take with them just so you
can have a couple of drinks, but then you've got
a lot on the next day, so you can't go overboard.
That's kind of a real middle age life.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's good. This is good. It's all about balance, Hayting,
this is this is necessarily Hey, I'm glad that you've
made it to the stage. I look forward to tasting
some of this. Don't be shy about sending through a
couple of photos. Will chuck them on the website so
people can evaluate your efforts.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh my goodness, this is rich coming from me. You're
Peter Pan of television news. So being told.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Him spoken like someone who hasn't seen me after his
son woke him up at halfas three this morning. Thought
like you say, it's all stage. Thank you so much,
Beast of luck for your ten thirty kickoff. We'll still
talk to you again very soon. Hato car there is
Hayden Jones make a sado for us this week and
kicking off the show on Saturday morning.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News Talks 'd B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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