February 7, 2025 • 13 mins
One of the most legendary couples on the New Zealand theatre scene, Jennifer Ward-Lealand and Michael Hurst have acting resumes that range from pimps, to politicians, to animated versions of Buzzy Bee.
They’ve been in countless productions together, but it had never been just the two of them on stage until their most recent stage work - In Other Words.
In the show, the two play a married couple dealing with the onset of Alzheimer's, and it had a sold out run in Auckland last year.
This year, Ward-Lealand and Hurst are taking the show across the nation, which Ward-Lealand told Jack Tame they’re thrilled to be doing.
“It would be rare to find a New Zealander who hasn’t had some connection in some way to some, either member of their Whanau or friends, or friends of friends who’ve experienced dementia,” she said.
Despite the serious topic, Hurst says the play isn’t particularly heavy.
“It certainly confronts it, but it’s levity and uplifting and the human condition, and caring, and all of those things – and music. So all of those things which are part of the dealing of it.”
Although there is levity in the play, Ward-Lealand and Hurst have taken care to represent the symptoms and reality of Alzheimer’s, which they say has been well received by audiences.
“The feedback that we’ve had from people has been really, really humbling,” Ward-Lealand said.
Dates and Venues
Clarence St Theatre, Hamilton
Hamilton Arts Festival
22nd & 23rd Feb
Circa Theatre, Wellington
27th Feb – 2nd Mar & 5th – 8th March
Isaac Theatre Royal, Christchurch
13th – 15th Mar
Dunedin
TBA 2025
Wānaka
TBA 2025
Opera House, Hastings
4th Apr
Q Theatre, Auckland
11th-12th April
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
from News Talks at b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jennifer Ward Leland and Michael Hurst have acting resumes that
range from pimps to politicians the animated version. It's a
good thing, guys, it's not a bad thing. Yeah, yeah,
I should have said politicians to perps. I'm not sure
which is better or worse to animated versions of Buzzy Bet.
They've been a countless productions together, but it had never
(00:34):
been just the two of them on stage until their
most recent stage work in other Words. In the show,
Jennifer and Michael play a married couple dealing with the
onset of Alzheimer's. It had a sold out run in
Auckland last year, a massive response and fantastic news. Jennifer
and Michael are now taking in other Words nationwide and
they are with us in person in studio this morning,
(00:57):
Cold Accord to We're great to see it is a
great pleasure to be speaking with you. And like I say,
I know when Other Words showed a Q Theater in Auckland,
there was just a huge response, sold out shows everywhere.
So people are going to be delighted to know that
it's going on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, we're really thrilled to be doing this. I think
it was one of the when I say the naisiest
audience it's I mean that in the very best way,
because while we were performing, we were often hearing them
going yep, yes, oh yeah, because I don't think there's
one new Zealander who hasn't had well, it would be
rare to find a new Zealander who hasn't had some
connection in some way to some either member of their
(01:33):
FARO or friends or friends of friends who've experienced dementia.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And this is the thing because it's in some respects
it's a heavy subject, but in other respects, like it
strikes me that it is kind of this weird sort
of taboo in that it feels like given the impact
it has on people's lives and like you say, kind
of everyone's lives, including mine and including yours, I'm sure slip,
(01:59):
we're not. We kind of don't confront it. Maybe as
you might expek.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I wouldn't call it it is a it is kind
of a sad or if this play isn't like that,
it's it's certainly, but it's levity and uplifting and human
condition and caring and all of those things and music,
so all of those things which are part of the
dealing of it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yes, but I think what you're you're right there, Jack
in that what is unspoken, I think is the work
of the caregivers quiet one, and we don't hear about
that much. And that's that's often the loved one, the
partner who's actually bearing the brunt of that muhy, which
is unpaid most of the time unless somebody has got
to the stage where they need to be in care
(02:43):
dementia in it or something like that. So for this
couple Jane and Arthur, of course, you know, they've been
together a long time, they know each other well, and
then Michael's character starts developing these symptoms and you know,
you you sort of brush it off with, oh, it's
just you know, old age, you know, forgetfulness, all of
(03:03):
those kind of things, until finally they get a diagon.
Is the beautiful thing about the players. We step out
of our the characters kind of step out of the
scenes and talk directly to the audience saying things like,
you know, I didn't know what was wrong. I thought
he thought he had the flu I.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Thought I had the flu.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, you know, you know, it's very much like that.
So I think the audience feel very brought into the hole,
very included in the whole production.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And also that does work as a sort of a
left out from the real, you know, the tough stuff
of what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, and you and I know people experience when their
loved ones has has dementia. There are all sorts of
different kinds, we know that, and sometimes you can have
a complete personality change, getting aggressive, sometimes it's very sweet,
just confused, all of those things. And this play kind
of shows all of those things in a very tight
(03:57):
sort of just over an hour of performance. And it's
a really incredibly satisfying to perform. And as I said before,
the feedback that we've had from people has been really
really humbling, a really humbling play to do.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And it's it's not often that you you think about
audiences literally verbally agreeing yeah exactly with the performance.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And I've had women after, you know, waiting for me
after the show saying I'm you know, character is me
right now, and I'll just give them a hug, because boy,
it must be tough.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Were you surprised by their Michael, not so much surprise. Well,
you know, you like it when people react in an
audience because if they're listening, reactioning, reacting is good, you know,
in this you know, I mean in a way, I'd
be surprised now if they didn't the one, you know,
I'd say something like, so I went to the shops
to buy the the the the the items, and and
(04:58):
you'd hear people.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Go, they know, this is a little status.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
So it becomes an organic part of the performance. Actually,
I think has.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It made you? Has it made you reconsider your own
kind of views on Alzheimer's and dementia at all? If
you go to the store, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Examine it. I have found I've been examining everything. And
then you know, like as Jennifer said, you go, oh, no,
it's just it's just I remember all sorts of lines.
It's just me getting older. And then you go, what
is that word? What I'm going to leave until I've
got the word.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Or and I think you know that. One of the
other interesting things about actually learning the words was in
the script. Learning the script is in one particular scene,
they are talking at cross purposes because what he's hearing
is not what I'm saying, and that was really tricky
to learn. And we we're you know, quite good swats
(05:58):
learning lines. We've been doing it for a long time.
And you know, you have to download a book into
your head and then the next play comes along you
get rid of that book and the next one. But
with this one, I was going, why is this so hard?
And I realized it's because there was no natural purposely
in the script. There was no natural follow on, there was.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
No you know you were connections.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The connections were so different because these people are connecting
differently but woven through. And why the play is called
in other words, of course, is the music of Frank Sinatra,
and this couple meet over one particular song and have
that zing in one particular song. So every time that
things get bad.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Or Arthur is sort of an episode or something.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Having an episode, the music exactly a touch and it
brings them back to love to each other. So ultimately
it's it's full of love and and hope in what
is a very long goodbye. I think this disease.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm sure everyone always says, oh, what's performing together? So
I'm not going to go there. It's a question, Well,
give it get instead. What is the best thing about
performing together and what is the hardest thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The best thing is that we have an innate trust
with each other as performers. We trained in a similar way.
We have a shorthand we can dissect things if they're
not working, and we can fix it pretty quickly. And
I think he's a great actor. So that's the best
thing for me.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, I mean, i'd agree with most of that. I
am aga. One good thing about this one, though, is
because of the nature of the couple, you know, habits
of a long relationship. It's funny to be on stage
and be behaving in a way that you behaving at home,
Like what do you mean? Just questioning like we normally
(07:51):
did you pay the bill at the bank?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Hey? God, I did that aligned to him at home
when we were rehearsing, and he thought it was real
And I said, did you pay that? You know that?
Did you talk to the bank about that?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
But I mean, we don't break care but I was
doing exactly what I do in the play. That's and
I guess difficulty. I'm not sure if there is a
difficult thing particularly, I mean, you're a bit bossing. But
apart from that, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What about if you're like, what about if you in
real life like grumpy at each other or something, And.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I would never bring that on the stage.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, no, no, no, of course not. But there must
be some.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Is that hard? I think no. Look, I think the
whole discipline of when you arrive in the theater and
you do you do your vocal warmup and your physical
warm up and get into your costume and do your
hair and makeup and stuff. All of that is leading
to your work on the stage.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So it's a compartment absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
You know, if we were grumpy, and I'm not sure
that we have been particularly grumpy in this play, but
if we were, you'd say, look, one of us would go,
let's just get anoledge that and use that as because
we know that going on stage was a porman if
he used to say, you've got to get rid of
the stink of the streets before you go on to
the stage, because you know, the audience don't want to
(09:07):
pay for They're not paying for that, they're paying for
what you do.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Of course, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I also think we're kind of unprofessional to even doing
that behavior.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Before you went on stage. Normally say yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm going I'm going to throw you a bad cue.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, I'm going to be late in that queue.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah. No. But but people do ask us in forums
about how we can leave that the emotion of the piece,
how we can just go home and be normal. And
actually we're very good at that, and I think it's
I think we're quite robust actors and that we've been
doing that for many years. And so you do your work,
you leave it where it belongs, and then we can
(09:46):
pretty quickly, as I said, leave the stage and talk about, oh,
we need to fix that or do this.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So it doesn't make it harder to disconnect, because that
was my other question, like, you finish the finished performance
for the night, and whereas usually you might go home
and you know, and and one of you has been performing, say,
and the other one hasn't, and you can go, okay, well,
you know, here's it, haw's you day, blah blah blah.
When you're both head exact the same kind of experience,
it's not harder to get in the car and then
think about it that.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I think it's pretty quick for us, you know, and
also remember we have gone through it and gotten rid
of the way right literally, I mean I often think
about about the kind of therapy nature of all. If
I think of all the things I've had to go through,
all the deaths, all the times I've literally been killed
on stage, stabbed, strangled, beaten to death, or you know,
(10:33):
anything huge that you've gone.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Through that you kind of you go through them and
you bring all those the simulacrum of all of those
things that would be if it was real, and your
body goes through it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yea, So maybe there's a bit of that. Often it's
a physical tiredness, isn't it. If you're yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's a bit like running a sort of a marathon.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, right, it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I don't I think it'd be something weird if you were.
I don't know. Some people carry it, some people do
each of their own.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Jennifer, I had to ask you about your eighteen months
or so now on the yes the Marii Language Commission.
How has it? How has it been?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
It's been wonderful because it's not the first. I've been
on a lot of boards before, but not a crown entity.
So I had to learn a lot of the the
acronyms and all of those kind of things and just
learn how how we fit in the greater sort of
ecology of Crown entities. But I have an incredible group
(11:34):
of people on that board and I'm learning a lot,
and I think I'm much more settled in there now
than I was, you know, to say it like a
year or so ago. But of course we have a
big you know, we have a big fu fire in
front of us. You know, we've got we've got to
make sure that keep those you know, seventy three percent
of New Zealanders value the Old Mary and three ol Mary,
(11:56):
and we want to keep those numbers up. And you know,
I get concerned when things like the three T Settlements
Bill are in discussion. Somehow this will stop. I don't
want it to stop. The wonderful trajectory that we as
New Zealanders are on. And certainly for me being on
this journey learning thro L MARII and being part of
(12:20):
that that world is, you know, it's made me much
more solid and in my own skin here in this
country I stand in this country, my old or my
New Zealand is so much more strongly than before I
started learning. So I hope that New Zealanders still keep
that value there and still understand that it's what makes
(12:42):
us unique to have a living culture around us. My
hopes and dreams.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Anyway, I suspected I might know the answer this. Are
you a thrash metal fan?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Are you talking about alien weaponry?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
About the documentary?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm dying it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I would say that's not my music of choice. However, Yeah,
I'm intrigued to see this documentary because I think these
young men are wonderful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I did too, that they're incredible. So yeah, that
film sounds amazing as well. Thank you so much for
coming in guys. So, in other words, is going to
be playing Kitty Kitty, doors can be playing Hamilton, Wellington,
christ Church, Dunedin, Warnica, Hastings and great news. You're coming
back to town.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Three more nights in Auckland dot QC at eleventh and
twelfth of April.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, so we will make sure that all of the
dates are up on the news talks, all right, But
thank you so much. Wonderful to see both. Yeah, fantastic
Michael Hurst, Jennifer ward Leland with us this morning. In
other words, touring alt Or right now, it is twenty
one minutes past ten.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Jennifer Ward Leland and Michael Hurst have acting resumes that
range from pimps to politicians the animated version. It's a
good thing, guys, it's not a bad thing. Yeah, yeah,
I should have said politicians to perps. I'm not sure
which is better or worse to animated versions of Buzzy Bet.
They've been a countless productions together, but it had never
(00:34):
been just the two of them on stage until their
most recent stage work in other Words. In the show,
Jennifer and Michael play a married couple dealing with the
onset of Alzheimer's. It had a sold out run in
Auckland last year, a massive response and fantastic news. Jennifer
and Michael are now taking in other Words nationwide and
they are with us in person in studio this morning,
(00:57):
Cold Accord to We're great to see it is a
great pleasure to be speaking with you. And like I say,
I know when Other Words showed a Q Theater in Auckland,
there was just a huge response, sold out shows everywhere.
So people are going to be delighted to know that
it's going on the road.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, we're really thrilled to be doing this. I think
it was one of the when I say the naisiest
audience it's I mean that in the very best way,
because while we were performing, we were often hearing them
going yep, yes, oh yeah, because I don't think there's
one new Zealander who hasn't had well, it would be
rare to find a new Zealander who hasn't had some
connection in some way to some either member of their
(01:33):
FARO or friends or friends of friends who've experienced dementia.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And this is the thing because it's in some respects
it's a heavy subject, but in other respects, like it
strikes me that it is kind of this weird sort
of taboo in that it feels like given the impact
it has on people's lives and like you say, kind
of everyone's lives, including mine and including yours, I'm sure slip,
(01:59):
we're not. We kind of don't confront it. Maybe as
you might expek.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I wouldn't call it it is a it is kind
of a sad or if this play isn't like that,
it's it's certainly, but it's levity and uplifting and human
condition and caring and all of those things and music,
so all of those things which are part of the
dealing of it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yes, but I think what you're you're right there, Jack
in that what is unspoken, I think is the work
of the caregivers quiet one, and we don't hear about
that much. And that's that's often the loved one, the
partner who's actually bearing the brunt of that muhy, which
is unpaid most of the time unless somebody has got
to the stage where they need to be in care
(02:43):
dementia in it or something like that. So for this
couple Jane and Arthur, of course, you know, they've been
together a long time, they know each other well, and
then Michael's character starts developing these symptoms and you know,
you you sort of brush it off with, oh, it's
just you know, old age, you know, forgetfulness, all of
(03:03):
those kind of things, until finally they get a diagon.
Is the beautiful thing about the players. We step out
of our the characters kind of step out of the
scenes and talk directly to the audience saying things like,
you know, I didn't know what was wrong. I thought
he thought he had the flu I.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Thought I had the flu.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, you know, you know, it's very much like that.
So I think the audience feel very brought into the hole,
very included in the whole production.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And also that does work as a sort of a
left out from the real, you know, the tough stuff
of what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, and you and I know people experience when their
loved ones has has dementia. There are all sorts of
different kinds, we know that, and sometimes you can have
a complete personality change, getting aggressive, sometimes it's very sweet,
just confused, all of those things. And this play kind
of shows all of those things in a very tight
(03:57):
sort of just over an hour of performance. And it's
a really incredibly satisfying to perform. And as I said before,
the feedback that we've had from people has been really
really humbling, a really humbling play to do.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
And it's it's not often that you you think about
audiences literally verbally agreeing yeah exactly with the performance.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And I've had women after, you know, waiting for me
after the show saying I'm you know, character is me
right now, and I'll just give them a hug, because boy,
it must be tough.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Were you surprised by their Michael, not so much surprise. Well,
you know, you like it when people react in an
audience because if they're listening, reactioning, reacting is good, you know,
in this you know, I mean in a way, I'd
be surprised now if they didn't the one, you know,
I'd say something like, so I went to the shops
to buy the the the the the items, and and
(04:58):
you'd hear people.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Go, they know, this is a little status.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
So it becomes an organic part of the performance. Actually,
I think has.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It made you? Has it made you reconsider your own
kind of views on Alzheimer's and dementia at all? If
you go to the store, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Examine it. I have found I've been examining everything. And
then you know, like as Jennifer said, you go, oh, no,
it's just it's just I remember all sorts of lines.
It's just me getting older. And then you go, what
is that word? What I'm going to leave until I've
got the word.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Or and I think you know that. One of the
other interesting things about actually learning the words was in
the script. Learning the script is in one particular scene,
they are talking at cross purposes because what he's hearing
is not what I'm saying, and that was really tricky
to learn. And we we're you know, quite good swats
(05:58):
learning lines. We've been doing it for a long time.
And you know, you have to download a book into
your head and then the next play comes along you
get rid of that book and the next one. But
with this one, I was going, why is this so hard?
And I realized it's because there was no natural purposely
in the script. There was no natural follow on, there was.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
No you know you were connections.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The connections were so different because these people are connecting
differently but woven through. And why the play is called
in other words, of course, is the music of Frank Sinatra,
and this couple meet over one particular song and have
that zing in one particular song. So every time that
things get bad.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Or Arthur is sort of an episode or something.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Having an episode, the music exactly a touch and it
brings them back to love to each other. So ultimately
it's it's full of love and and hope in what
is a very long goodbye. I think this disease.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm sure everyone always says, oh, what's performing together? So
I'm not going to go there. It's a question, Well,
give it get instead. What is the best thing about
performing together and what is the hardest thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The best thing is that we have an innate trust
with each other as performers. We trained in a similar way.
We have a shorthand we can dissect things if they're
not working, and we can fix it pretty quickly. And
I think he's a great actor. So that's the best
thing for me.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, I mean, i'd agree with most of that. I
am aga. One good thing about this one, though, is
because of the nature of the couple, you know, habits
of a long relationship. It's funny to be on stage
and be behaving in a way that you behaving at home,
Like what do you mean? Just questioning like we normally
(07:51):
did you pay the bill at the bank?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Hey? God, I did that aligned to him at home
when we were rehearsing, and he thought it was real
And I said, did you pay that? You know that?
Did you talk to the bank about that?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
But I mean, we don't break care but I was
doing exactly what I do in the play. That's and
I guess difficulty. I'm not sure if there is a
difficult thing particularly, I mean, you're a bit bossing. But
apart from that, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
What about if you're like, what about if you in
real life like grumpy at each other or something, And.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I would never bring that on the stage.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, no, no, no, of course not. But there must
be some.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Is that hard? I think no. Look, I think the
whole discipline of when you arrive in the theater and
you do you do your vocal warmup and your physical
warm up and get into your costume and do your
hair and makeup and stuff. All of that is leading
to your work on the stage.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So it's a compartment absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
You know, if we were grumpy, and I'm not sure
that we have been particularly grumpy in this play, but
if we were, you'd say, look, one of us would go,
let's just get anoledge that and use that as because
we know that going on stage was a porman if
he used to say, you've got to get rid of
the stink of the streets before you go on to
the stage, because you know, the audience don't want to
(09:07):
pay for They're not paying for that, they're paying for
what you do.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Of course, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I also think we're kind of unprofessional to even doing
that behavior.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Before you went on stage. Normally say yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm going I'm going to throw you a bad cue.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, I'm going to be late in that queue.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah. No. But but people do ask us in forums
about how we can leave that the emotion of the piece,
how we can just go home and be normal. And
actually we're very good at that, and I think it's
I think we're quite robust actors and that we've been
doing that for many years. And so you do your work,
you leave it where it belongs, and then we can
(09:46):
pretty quickly, as I said, leave the stage and talk about, oh,
we need to fix that or do this.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So it doesn't make it harder to disconnect, because that
was my other question, like, you finish the finished performance
for the night, and whereas usually you might go home
and you know, and and one of you has been performing, say,
and the other one hasn't, and you can go, okay, well,
you know, here's it, haw's you day, blah blah blah.
When you're both head exact the same kind of experience,
it's not harder to get in the car and then
think about it that.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I think it's pretty quick for us, you know, and
also remember we have gone through it and gotten rid
of the way right literally, I mean I often think
about about the kind of therapy nature of all. If
I think of all the things I've had to go through,
all the deaths, all the times I've literally been killed
on stage, stabbed, strangled, beaten to death, or you know,
(10:33):
anything huge that you've gone.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Through that you kind of you go through them and
you bring all those the simulacrum of all of those
things that would be if it was real, and your
body goes through it.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yea, So maybe there's a bit of that. Often it's
a physical tiredness, isn't it. If you're yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's a bit like running a sort of a marathon.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, right, it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I don't I think it'd be something weird if you were.
I don't know. Some people carry it, some people do
each of their own.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Jennifer, I had to ask you about your eighteen months
or so now on the yes the Marii Language Commission.
How has it? How has it been?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
It's been wonderful because it's not the first. I've been
on a lot of boards before, but not a crown entity.
So I had to learn a lot of the the
acronyms and all of those kind of things and just
learn how how we fit in the greater sort of
ecology of Crown entities. But I have an incredible group
(11:34):
of people on that board and I'm learning a lot,
and I think I'm much more settled in there now
than I was, you know, to say it like a
year or so ago. But of course we have a
big you know, we have a big fu fire in
front of us. You know, we've got we've got to
make sure that keep those you know, seventy three percent
of New Zealanders value the Old Mary and three ol Mary,
(11:56):
and we want to keep those numbers up. And you know,
I get concerned when things like the three T Settlements
Bill are in discussion. Somehow this will stop. I don't
want it to stop. The wonderful trajectory that we as
New Zealanders are on. And certainly for me being on
this journey learning thro L MARII and being part of
(12:20):
that that world is, you know, it's made me much
more solid and in my own skin here in this
country I stand in this country, my old or my
New Zealand is so much more strongly than before I
started learning. So I hope that New Zealanders still keep
that value there and still understand that it's what makes
(12:42):
us unique to have a living culture around us. My
hopes and dreams.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Anyway, I suspected I might know the answer this. Are
you a thrash metal fan?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Are you talking about alien weaponry?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
About the documentary?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm dying it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I would say that's not my music of choice. However, Yeah,
I'm intrigued to see this documentary because I think these
young men are wonderful. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I did too, that they're incredible. So yeah, that
film sounds amazing as well. Thank you so much for
coming in guys. So, in other words, is going to
be playing Kitty Kitty, doors can be playing Hamilton, Wellington,
christ Church, Dunedin, Warnica, Hastings and great news. You're coming
back to town.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Three more nights in Auckland dot QC at eleventh and
twelfth of April.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, so we will make sure that all of the
dates are up on the news talks, all right, But
thank you so much. Wonderful to see both. Yeah, fantastic
Michael Hurst, Jennifer ward Leland with us this morning. In
other words, touring alt Or right now, it is twenty
one minutes past ten.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
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