July 11, 2025 • 7 mins
Technology has improved in leaps and bounds over the years – going from landlines to brick phones to smartphones in relatively quick succession.
However, as technology has improved, it’s also become increasingly difficult to repair for one reason or another. Gone are the days when you can pop your battery out of your phone and put a new one in.
Kevin Milne recently tried to buy a new battery for his iPhone, and ran into an annoying problem when trying to get the real deal.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks, that'd be I know, I.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Know, I sound like I've drunk from the cool aid
this morning, but honestly, some of these stats just absolutely
blew me away. I'm going to give you one more
from that article. Okay, this is something I didn't properly
appreciate or understand until this week, and that's just how
inefficient it is to create energy by burning stuff. Right, So,
to power a car by burning petrol is only about
(00:35):
thirty percent efficient, which means that if you charge a
car like an EV car, they are about two to
three times So it takes two to three times more
energy to power a car with petrol than it does
with electricity. Do you get that? So a standard combustion
engine needs two to three times more energy to power
(00:57):
it than an EV, which means that obviously, if you
could power an EV through solar, you would have an
incredibly efficient system. Cheeps of texts Jack. You do realize
there's not a lot of solder generation in winter, says Sharon.
We've lived totally off the grid for thirty five years,
so I know we're talking about it's not the silver
bullet you think. I don't think it's a silver bullet, Sharon,
especially in winter. But I do think that solar could
(01:20):
offset our energy costs in summer obviously a little bit
of the costs in winter, and that we could put
some of the money that we spend on our energy
costs in summer towards our bills in winter. Jack. If
we all went solar in the summer time and generate
heats of electricity, that would allow the big the likes
of Meridian to storm more water in the hydro lakes,
keeping the price down and supply good in winter, says
(01:42):
Sean Morning Jack LJ. Here, every new building in New
Zealand should have solar heating, no ifs or but imagine
how much it would help the government if they didn't
have to build more infrastructure to be overcharged by the
electricity companies. Ninety two ninety two is our text number
if you want to get and touch. Kevin Millon is
here this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Kilder Kevin, Kilder Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Have you got solo pig in my place?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Have you got solar panels at your place?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No? I haven't, No, No, you're on the.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Gorgeous Carbony Coast. Given there's no excuses.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Come on, that's right, No, that's true. Yeah, I just
haven't got light you up to now, I haven't been
moved to do it. Yeah, and I suppose at this
end of my life, I'm thinking, I mean, you're talking
about ten years from now, things happening, and I'm teking.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm thinking, I'm not refuse to accept that for a moment.
You're you're, you're, you're as vital as I've ever been given.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Come on, yeah, I'm thinking that my issue that they
might ring a few bells with listeners as well.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, interesting that you're also talking about energy is slightly
smaller batteries. You've been frustrated by cell phone batteries.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm wondering when we can get we can
get solar batteries on our phones. I needed a new
battery for my iPhone eleven Jack. It's over five years old,
operating at only sixty five percent capacity. An Apple placement
battery was going to cost about one hundred and seventy
five dollars, but a lot cheaper than buying a new phone.
(03:13):
So I went into my local phone agents where I'd
bought my phone, in the first place. We don't change
batteries here, but we can send it to the Apple workshop.
I said, how long will my phone be away? He
replied two weeks? I replied that's ridiculous, at which point
the man might have come back with a number of
(03:35):
helpful responses, like, if you take your phone into the
workshub itself, they'll do it for you much quicker. I
don't know if that's true, actually, Jack, but it would
have been a helpful response. Another might have been year
two weeks is a long time. We could transfer most
of your day to day data over to a loan
phone if you like. Again, Jack, I'm not saying they
(03:57):
can do that, but that's what top level mechanics or
panel beaters do. If they need to take your car
for a couple of weeks, they give you a loan car.
If you were call him, that might have even said,
in a bit of a whisper, it won't be a
genuine Apple battery, but there's a place just down the
mall that will sell you an Apple copy, probably not
(04:18):
as good as the real thing, but cheaper, and they
change it while you wait. Again, I wouldn't expect to
hear that, but if they've given any of those three replies,
I might still have bought myn xiphone off them. But
all the Apple agent could say was it is what
it is, mate. I walked to the other shop and
(04:41):
the mall that sold the non genuine batteries. Yeah, my
battery was replaced for one hundred and twenty dollars, all
done in the time. It taught me to have a
cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's such a funny system. May I've been frustrated by
exactly the same thing. And the thing I always have
to tell myself is that when you get to the
point when you need a new battery in your phone,
maybe after say two or three years, probably three years
of use, the resale of your value, that the resale
value of your phone's probably not that great anyway, and
(05:11):
so just having a non branded battery probably makes economic sense.
Like I think, okay, so I do exactly the same thing.
I go and get that. I go to the shop
on the mall that has the non branded battery, right,
And so it means that when I go into my
phone and say, oh, how's the battery going, they say, dinging,
ding ding. This is not an Apple battery and it's
a bit frustrating, and it's sort of the whole interface
(05:32):
is designed to make you feel sort of bad about
the whole thing. But I always think, well, my phone
is so old and crusty anyway that it's not going
to be worth match. All I really care about is
the utility and if the battery that I've got to
replace it, it's out of warranty anyway. So if the
battery that I've got to replace it works well enough,
then great, I'll just stick with that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Absolutely absolutely. Yeah, I'll tell you why that two weeks.
I mean, I think I'd rather be without MACA for
two weeks, yeah, than without my phone. That's ridiculously long
to change a battery. And I wonder to what extent
that is set like that so that people go, oh,
the hell with it, I'll buy another phone.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, that's exactly what I think too. And can I
say that if you are considering a new phone because
you get frustrated with yours and you haven't had the
battery replaced before, it is well worth just going and
replacing the battery. You'd be surprised at how much beatty
your phone sort of operates and stuff when it's got
a you know, and how much less frustrated you get
when you're not running out of battery it help us,
(06:32):
help us one in the afternoon and recharging it three
times a day. Can it can? Like honestly, it's like
a lick of paint, you know, really makes a whole.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
That's a good, great way of putting it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh, I'm glad that you are glad that you didn't
send it away. Thank you so much, Kevin Now ninety two,
ninety two. If you've got thoughts on that, Jack, I
went solar nine months ago, says Pete. Brilliant quality German panels,
a Teesler battery. I don't think about how many years
it'll pay for itself, because it's already done that by
adding to the house value, saleability, the resale value. Thank
you for that, Pete.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News Talk zed B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast
from News Talks, that'd be I know, I.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Know, I sound like I've drunk from the cool aid
this morning, but honestly, some of these stats just absolutely
blew me away. I'm going to give you one more
from that article. Okay, this is something I didn't properly
appreciate or understand until this week, and that's just how
inefficient it is to create energy by burning stuff. Right, So,
to power a car by burning petrol is only about
(00:35):
thirty percent efficient, which means that if you charge a
car like an EV car, they are about two to
three times So it takes two to three times more
energy to power a car with petrol than it does
with electricity. Do you get that? So a standard combustion
engine needs two to three times more energy to power
(00:57):
it than an EV, which means that obviously, if you
could power an EV through solar, you would have an
incredibly efficient system. Cheeps of texts Jack. You do realize
there's not a lot of solder generation in winter, says Sharon.
We've lived totally off the grid for thirty five years,
so I know we're talking about it's not the silver
bullet you think. I don't think it's a silver bullet, Sharon,
especially in winter. But I do think that solar could
(01:20):
offset our energy costs in summer obviously a little bit
of the costs in winter, and that we could put
some of the money that we spend on our energy
costs in summer towards our bills in winter. Jack. If
we all went solar in the summer time and generate
heats of electricity, that would allow the big the likes
of Meridian to storm more water in the hydro lakes,
keeping the price down and supply good in winter, says
(01:42):
Sean Morning Jack LJ. Here, every new building in New
Zealand should have solar heating, no ifs or but imagine
how much it would help the government if they didn't
have to build more infrastructure to be overcharged by the
electricity companies. Ninety two ninety two is our text number
if you want to get and touch. Kevin Millon is
here this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Kilder Kevin, Kilder Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Have you got solo pig in my place?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Have you got solar panels at your place?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No? I haven't, No, No, you're on the.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Gorgeous Carbony Coast. Given there's no excuses.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Come on, that's right, No, that's true. Yeah, I just
haven't got light you up to now, I haven't been
moved to do it. Yeah, and I suppose at this
end of my life, I'm thinking, I mean, you're talking
about ten years from now, things happening, and I'm teking.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm thinking, I'm not refuse to accept that for a moment.
You're you're, you're, you're as vital as I've ever been given.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Come on, yeah, I'm thinking that my issue that they
might ring a few bells with listeners as well.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, interesting that you're also talking about energy is slightly
smaller batteries. You've been frustrated by cell phone batteries.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm wondering when we can get we can
get solar batteries on our phones. I needed a new
battery for my iPhone eleven Jack. It's over five years old,
operating at only sixty five percent capacity. An Apple placement
battery was going to cost about one hundred and seventy
five dollars, but a lot cheaper than buying a new phone.
(03:13):
So I went into my local phone agents where I'd
bought my phone, in the first place. We don't change
batteries here, but we can send it to the Apple workshop.
I said, how long will my phone be away? He
replied two weeks? I replied that's ridiculous, at which point
the man might have come back with a number of
(03:35):
helpful responses, like, if you take your phone into the
workshub itself, they'll do it for you much quicker. I
don't know if that's true, actually, Jack, but it would
have been a helpful response. Another might have been year
two weeks is a long time. We could transfer most
of your day to day data over to a loan
phone if you like. Again, Jack, I'm not saying they
(03:57):
can do that, but that's what top level mechanics or
panel beaters do. If they need to take your car
for a couple of weeks, they give you a loan car.
If you were call him, that might have even said,
in a bit of a whisper, it won't be a
genuine Apple battery, but there's a place just down the
mall that will sell you an Apple copy, probably not
(04:18):
as good as the real thing, but cheaper, and they
change it while you wait. Again, I wouldn't expect to
hear that, but if they've given any of those three replies,
I might still have bought myn xiphone off them. But
all the Apple agent could say was it is what
it is, mate. I walked to the other shop and
(04:41):
the mall that sold the non genuine batteries. Yeah, my
battery was replaced for one hundred and twenty dollars, all
done in the time. It taught me to have a
cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's such a funny system. May I've been frustrated by
exactly the same thing. And the thing I always have
to tell myself is that when you get to the
point when you need a new battery in your phone,
maybe after say two or three years, probably three years
of use, the resale of your value, that the resale
value of your phone's probably not that great anyway, and
(05:11):
so just having a non branded battery probably makes economic sense.
Like I think, okay, so I do exactly the same thing.
I go and get that. I go to the shop
on the mall that has the non branded battery, right,
And so it means that when I go into my
phone and say, oh, how's the battery going, they say, dinging,
ding ding. This is not an Apple battery and it's
a bit frustrating, and it's sort of the whole interface
(05:32):
is designed to make you feel sort of bad about
the whole thing. But I always think, well, my phone
is so old and crusty anyway that it's not going
to be worth match. All I really care about is
the utility and if the battery that I've got to
replace it, it's out of warranty anyway. So if the
battery that I've got to replace it works well enough,
then great, I'll just stick with that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Absolutely absolutely. Yeah, I'll tell you why that two weeks.
I mean, I think I'd rather be without MACA for
two weeks, yeah, than without my phone. That's ridiculously long
to change a battery. And I wonder to what extent
that is set like that so that people go, oh,
the hell with it, I'll buy another phone.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, that's exactly what I think too. And can I
say that if you are considering a new phone because
you get frustrated with yours and you haven't had the
battery replaced before, it is well worth just going and
replacing the battery. You'd be surprised at how much beatty
your phone sort of operates and stuff when it's got
a you know, and how much less frustrated you get
when you're not running out of battery it help us,
(06:32):
help us one in the afternoon and recharging it three
times a day. Can it can? Like honestly, it's like
a lick of paint, you know, really makes a whole.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
That's a good, great way of putting it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh, I'm glad that you are glad that you didn't
send it away. Thank you so much, Kevin Now ninety two,
ninety two. If you've got thoughts on that, Jack, I
went solar nine months ago, says Pete. Brilliant quality German panels,
a Teesler battery. I don't think about how many years
it'll pay for itself, because it's already done that by
adding to the house value, saleability, the resale value. Thank
you for that, Pete.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
to News Talk zed B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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