November 1, 2024 • 14 mins
Kiwi musician Ladyhawke was a fixture of the late 2000s.
In 2009, Pip Brown, better known as Ladyhawke, stormed to number one on the New Zealand albums chart in 2009 with her self-titled debut and hit song ‘My Delirium’, leading to a slew of music awards, and international tours.
15 years later, she’s coming full circle, performing her debut album at the upcoming ‘Others Way’ festival in Auckland.
Ladyhawke told Jack Tame that she has a few tours and shows coming up, but wanted to do something special for the 15 year anniversary.
“I thought, why don't I do something special and do the first record front to back,” she said.
“There's a couple of songs on it that I'd never played live before.”
Although festival goers will be the only ones to get the full album experience, Ladyhawke has been playing a few of her older hits on her tours throughout the UK and Australia.
“Everyone's just, like, really happy. And I love looking out and seeing everyone singing along,” she told Tame.
“I know it's a bit of a nostalgia trip for people, which is, which is awesome for me too.”
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from news Talks at.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
B Still again A woning C three restulla for you, m.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Last what a jam? The year is two thousand and nine.
You turn on the radio and yeah, the moment you
hear that, you know who it is. That is Lady
Hawk of course aka Pitt Brown. She stormed a number
one on the New Zealand album charts with her self
titled debut and this hit song, and it lead to
(01:05):
a s new of music awards, international tours, a couple
more albums in the years since.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The thing about Lady Hawk.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Is she cleverly blends those eighties influences with modern indie rock,
and now she is circling back to play her entire
debut album at the upcoming others Way Festival in Tarmaki, Makoto, Auckland.
Lady Hawk aka Pit is with us this morning, Calda,
good morning, Da.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's so good to be seeing you and so exciting
to know that you are going to be playing Lady
Hawk as Lady Hawk. So you're going to be playing
your album as Lady Hawk, your first album. Why why
do you want to turn back the hands of time.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
It's been sort of a thing for me. I wanted
to do. It's like, first of all, it's an anniversary.
I'm like fifteen years. I don't yeah, yeah, I mean
it feels like two years ago to me. But yeah,
I just thought. I knew I had a few tours
and a few shows coming up this year, and I thought,
why don'd I do something special and do the first
(02:07):
record front to back. There's a couple of songs on
it that I'd never played live, but really so yeah,
I just sort of I don't know why I never did,
but yeah, so that's been really nice for me to
we did.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Do you have any sense as to Wade?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I don't know. No, some of them I think in
my brain, like when that first record came out, I
was always like, well, I've got to play just the
upbeat ones, you know, Oh yeah, slower ones, no, because
I always thought I have to keep the crowd excited,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Now I'm like, I'm sure they'll enjoy the slower ones.
And actually, now that I play these songs, I'm like
they're not slow at all.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So yeah, yeah, that's light and shade anyway, isn't it. Yeah,
Light and Shade. Yeah, so you've been playing because you've
toured Australia.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
This year, right yeah, in the UK?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah right so, and you've played this to those audiences.
How did they How did they receive it?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
So stoic day. Everyone's just like really happy and I
love looking out and seeing everyone singing along. And I
know it's a bit of a nostalgia trip for people,
which is which is awesome for me too.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Is it a nostalgia trip? I suppose it is, Like
you said.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I like that you're questioning it the because it makes
me feel better.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I mean it's you know, you and I are of
a similar Ilken age, and I think young, Yeah, exactly,
incredibly youthful, incredibly vibrant. I mean, describe to us what
your life was like then when when you wrote this
album for the first time, Like, take us back, what
what was Lady Hawk's life at that point? Two thousand
and eight, two thousand and nine, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So I probably wrote it. I wrote the record probably
two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, and then
it was the singles were sort of released in two
thousand and eight. My life, My life over those couple
of years was like the build up was like this
isn't actually happening? Is it? Like that was me every
day like wait, these people like my music. I just couldn't. Honestly,
(03:50):
I was just doing what I loved and I every
step everything that happened, I kind of was in shock,
like no one prepares you for anything. Yeah, so I didn't. Yeah,
it was it was.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It was.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
It was hazy, you know, like everything was just happening
so fast, and yeah, for me, I look back and
I think about that time, I'm like, I wasn't ready
to be perceived. I think that's what was interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Do you know what I mean by that?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
People that I don't know perceiving me in a way,
you know what I mean? Like that was that was
something that I was like, oh my god. I went
from being you know, playing in indie bands and being
guitarist or whatever and just having loads of fun and
to doing this project which I put poured my heart
and soul into. But I really didn't think ahead just
in case it did. Well, you know, I didn't think
(04:39):
that would happen. So I wasn't prepared. It's like they
need to give you lessons or something. Or like like
you know, what's going to happen, Like, oh, strangers are
going to be listening to your music. I'm like what, No,
surely not.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, And did you find that, like, how did you
react to that when you realize that people were perceiving
it to you?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I found it very difficult. Yeah, I it almost ended
my career, Like I almost stopped doing music. I it
was so much for me to take. So after the
first record, I found it very hard and I sort
of retreated into myself and I was very close to
giving up.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Are you serious? Yeah, I'm serious, because people, I mean,
the kind of cliche is that people dream of international
star and their waves being clad with Grammy Awards and
all that kind of thing, right, Yeah, but it sounds
like that first of all, wasn't necessarily a motivator in
any way, but also was kind of a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
It was definitely something I wasn't prepared for, Like I
obviously wanted to have success with my music, but something
that you don't I mean for me anyway, I didn't
imagine what it was going to be like if that
actually happened, if the success happened, Because for me, it
was like, oh, it'll be you know, loads of people
will play my music on the radio, and people will
(05:57):
you know, buying my record and be listening to it
at home and stuff, and then all of a sudden
you're like, oh, hang on, they want to interview you
for these magazines, and you're all of a sudden you're
on TV, and then all this other stuff comes along.
And I wasn't prepared for any of that. I really
wish there was a crash course, you know, that I
could have gone through.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
What was it about it? Do you think that you
found unpleasant or overwhelming or unnatural?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I just don't think it's ever been my personality. I
think I'm quite a I don't know, it just wasn't.
I'm not an extrovert, and it wasn't. I know that
people can't comprehend that, like, but you're a musician, Like
how could you not be an extravert? But I just
I'm not. And I think I was scared of people
(06:42):
judging me, you know what I mean, Like that was
the sort of low self esteem maybe Kiwi side of
me coming out, like, you know, am I good enough
to be here? You know?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And did you feel like that at the time, Like
people were working.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, I was super paranoid. But then it's funny because,
like you get older and over the years of you know,
I'm making my fifth record at the moment, and I've
had a cad and been through heaps, I don't just
don't care anymore. Yeah, I really don't care.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's great, it's refreshing.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah. Yeah, I have realized that now I'm just like
I've I don't think I've ever enjoyed music as much
as I do now.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like, yeah, it's crazy, it's like a liberation.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah it is. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
See, I was reflecting on the album at the time
and knowing that you had kind of just written music
that you liked. It struck me that it was really
unlike some other musicians. I'm not saying to cast judgment
or anyone here, but there was nothing about that album
that was calculating like it wasn't it wasn't you trying
(07:44):
to be like, oh, I really want to like find
a niche and a sound. It wasn't anything like that.
It was just like, here's music that I enjoy. Yeah,
I'm gonna make it. And then perhaps because of that
authenticity the success came.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, do you see that? Yeah, I totally think so.
There was a real I was living in Sydney at
the time when I was writing the record, well, when
I first started writing it, I was living in Sydney
and there was a real scene happening there at the
moment that was really inspiring. It was like, I don't
know what it was, but it was like since was
so cool and like I just loved going out to
(08:19):
parties with my friends and like listening to all the
music that was getting played was super eighties and like
yacht rock was really being you know, embraced in like
two thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Explain what yacht rock like?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Hall and Notes? Yeah, get your boat Shoes on Saleen
in the Sunset.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, I think the eighties that maybe there was
there was something about that time that was kind of
you know, we were going back a couple of generations
and yeah, obviously it was a bit of a kind
of through line for you.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, it just like it really hit and I felt
it was it sort of sit with my voice perfectly
as well, like I could just deliver the vocal I wanted. Yeah, yeah,
it's crazy, I can't really sing any other genre.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, so you said that you're kind of enjoying writing
and performing music more than ever at the moment. Yeah, yeah,
And part of that's down to just not giving a
toss or anything. But what like, if you compare the
way that you're writing back when you wrote Lady Hawk
to how you are writing and performing now, what are
the like, what are the differences? You don't care as much,
but what does that look like on stage or in
(09:22):
the studio.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
So I think I didn't realize I was any good
back then. I didn't know, And now I know I'm
a good songwriter. You know. Now I'm like confident and
I'm comfortable saying that. I used I would be felt
so cringe. Saying that back in the day would be like,
oh my gosh, shame. I just no way I'd ever
say that. But now I'm like, I'm actually confident in
myself and I feel comfortable and I know what I
(09:47):
contribute to a songwriting session is valuable. So I that's
something that's been a huge obstacle for me to overcome
over the years. But it's just I don't know. I'm
ten years sober as well, so I haven't drunk alcohol
for ten years, and that that's also played a huge role.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Congratulation, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
My sanity, Yeah yeah, yeah, just just getting them mental
health and check. I think it's been really good for
my brain and actually made me realize my own worth,
which I didn't realize for many years.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, that's that's really profound. Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
It's been a it's been a pretty awesome journey, and
I'm just glad that I can That's something I can
also like show to my daughter, you know, like she's
only seeing this side of me, which is really cool.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah. How does she feel about your Do you play
around the house and stuff?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh, she's so proud of me.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
She she'll come, you know with me when I play shows,
and she'll standside a stage and take photos. She's my photographer.
I give her a job. I'm like, you get to
take pictures.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Okay, how old is she?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
She's sitting seven on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh yeah, okay, Okay. So this is a that's kind
of a wonderful age because they're still like the innocence
is still.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
The ya, no cynicism, no cynicism. She's just always so
like eyes wide over you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Wow, Imagine what it's like for her, Like this is
like she will remember this even you remember what you
remember it, even for the rest of your life, and
she'll remember seeing you on stage. Imagine how like foundational?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
That's I know, it's so exciting. Yeah, I love that
she enjoys it as well.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, So aside from being sober and kind of having
mental health stuff sorted, do you think that well, not sorted,
but in.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Check and check.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, yep. Do you think is there anything else you
look at over the last ten years or so that
you think has helped you get to the point where
you can say, you know what, I am a good songwriter,
I know what I'm doing here, I belong here.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah. It has been a really hard journey and I
have had some like really low points, but it's yeah,
it's I think it's seeing other people's belief in me
and the longevity of that, Like how long some people
in my life have believed in me and my music
and some people I really respect as well as fellow
(11:58):
songwriters and musicians, And that's been something to me that's like, oh, actually,
maybe I am all right, you know, maybe I'm not
as bad as what I felt like it's it's really
easy to be self deprecating, and I was very good
at that, but I I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, I'm so pleased to hear that. So can you
tell us about the other's way?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yes, I can.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We've got to put all the details and stuff online
so you don't worry about that stuff. But just for
people who aren't aware of the festival and how it
kind of works.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah, cool. So it's a it's a festival where basically
music takes over k Road. So there's a bunch of
venues up k Road and there's just bands playing NonStop
over the course of a weekend, I think, And I'm
playing at Double Whammy, which I'm so excited. I've never
(12:50):
played either of themis Yeah, so this is exciting, and
I know it's a very new venue as well. This
was just something I really wanted to do as well,
Like I wanted to do this festival and this is
really cool people playing it as well that I'm quite
excited about.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So it's really special too because I think K Road
has had like a like a little rough period and
there's still like lots of police signs and that sort
of thing on some of the on some of the
retail spots up there. But it feels like just to
me that it's just starting to turn a bit of
a corner and events like this are just so good
for that community. Yeah, as a real vibrancy.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
That makes Yeah, it's really exciting. It's cool to be
asked to be a part of that as well. Yeah,
it was really tough.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, we are delighted that you're going to be playing.
We're delighted you're playing, Lady Hawk. We can't wait for
your new music. When do you reckon that?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
The aim is next year around October's always it always
takes ages. Yeah, but yeah, I've got some pretty awesome
stuff cooking.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh, I can't wait. So good to see you, and
thank you very much for your time.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Oh, thank you so much, Jake.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Ah so good. So tickets for Lady Hawk's show are
on sale now via mosh tics and we're gonna have
all the details on news talks He'd be website. Thank
you very much for your feedback, Jake love Lady Hawk,
whom you music has inspired my music and my journey.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Thank you. Congratulations on your sobriety, Congratulations on your music,
Congratulations on life in general, says Tom. Hey, Lady Hawk,
I just want to say thank you so much for
your music. You are an inspiration to me. You've helped
me through bad times in my life. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That is so good.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
B Still again A woning C three restulla for you, m.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Last what a jam? The year is two thousand and nine.
You turn on the radio and yeah, the moment you
hear that, you know who it is. That is Lady
Hawk of course aka Pitt Brown. She stormed a number
one on the New Zealand album charts with her self
titled debut and this hit song, and it lead to
(01:05):
a s new of music awards, international tours, a couple
more albums in the years since.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The thing about Lady Hawk.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Is she cleverly blends those eighties influences with modern indie rock,
and now she is circling back to play her entire
debut album at the upcoming others Way Festival in Tarmaki, Makoto, Auckland.
Lady Hawk aka Pit is with us this morning, Calda,
good morning, Da.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's so good to be seeing you and so exciting
to know that you are going to be playing Lady
Hawk as Lady Hawk. So you're going to be playing
your album as Lady Hawk, your first album. Why why
do you want to turn back the hands of time.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
It's been sort of a thing for me. I wanted
to do. It's like, first of all, it's an anniversary.
I'm like fifteen years. I don't yeah, yeah, I mean
it feels like two years ago to me. But yeah,
I just thought. I knew I had a few tours
and a few shows coming up this year, and I thought,
why don'd I do something special and do the first
(02:07):
record front to back. There's a couple of songs on
it that I'd never played live, but really so yeah,
I just sort of I don't know why I never did,
but yeah, so that's been really nice for me to
we did.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Do you have any sense as to Wade?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I don't know. No, some of them I think in
my brain, like when that first record came out, I
was always like, well, I've got to play just the
upbeat ones, you know, Oh yeah, slower ones, no, because
I always thought I have to keep the crowd excited,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Now I'm like, I'm sure they'll enjoy the slower ones.
And actually, now that I play these songs, I'm like
they're not slow at all.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So yeah, yeah, that's light and shade anyway, isn't it. Yeah,
Light and Shade. Yeah, so you've been playing because you've
toured Australia.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
This year, right yeah, in the UK?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah right so, and you've played this to those audiences.
How did they How did they receive it?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
So stoic day. Everyone's just like really happy and I
love looking out and seeing everyone singing along. And I
know it's a bit of a nostalgia trip for people,
which is which is awesome for me too.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Is it a nostalgia trip? I suppose it is, Like
you said.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I like that you're questioning it the because it makes
me feel better.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I mean it's you know, you and I are of
a similar Ilken age, and I think young, Yeah, exactly,
incredibly youthful, incredibly vibrant. I mean, describe to us what
your life was like then when when you wrote this
album for the first time, Like, take us back, what
what was Lady Hawk's life at that point? Two thousand
and eight, two thousand and nine, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So I probably wrote it. I wrote the record probably
two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, and then
it was the singles were sort of released in two
thousand and eight. My life, My life over those couple
of years was like the build up was like this
isn't actually happening? Is it? Like that was me every
day like wait, these people like my music. I just couldn't. Honestly,
(03:50):
I was just doing what I loved and I every
step everything that happened, I kind of was in shock,
like no one prepares you for anything. Yeah, so I didn't. Yeah,
it was it was.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It was.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
It was hazy, you know, like everything was just happening
so fast, and yeah, for me, I look back and
I think about that time, I'm like, I wasn't ready
to be perceived. I think that's what was interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Do you know what I mean by that?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
People that I don't know perceiving me in a way,
you know what I mean? Like that was that was
something that I was like, oh my god. I went
from being you know, playing in indie bands and being
guitarist or whatever and just having loads of fun and
to doing this project which I put poured my heart
and soul into. But I really didn't think ahead just
in case it did. Well, you know, I didn't think
(04:39):
that would happen. So I wasn't prepared. It's like they
need to give you lessons or something. Or like like
you know, what's going to happen, Like, oh, strangers are
going to be listening to your music. I'm like what, No,
surely not.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, And did you find that, like, how did you
react to that when you realize that people were perceiving
it to you?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I found it very difficult. Yeah, I it almost ended
my career, Like I almost stopped doing music. I it
was so much for me to take. So after the
first record, I found it very hard and I sort
of retreated into myself and I was very close to
giving up.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Are you serious? Yeah, I'm serious, because people, I mean,
the kind of cliche is that people dream of international
star and their waves being clad with Grammy Awards and
all that kind of thing, right, Yeah, but it sounds
like that first of all, wasn't necessarily a motivator in
any way, but also was kind of a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
It was definitely something I wasn't prepared for, Like I
obviously wanted to have success with my music, but something
that you don't I mean for me anyway, I didn't
imagine what it was going to be like if that
actually happened, if the success happened, Because for me, it
was like, oh, it'll be you know, loads of people
will play my music on the radio, and people will
(05:57):
you know, buying my record and be listening to it
at home and stuff, and then all of a sudden
you're like, oh, hang on, they want to interview you
for these magazines, and you're all of a sudden you're
on TV, and then all this other stuff comes along.
And I wasn't prepared for any of that. I really
wish there was a crash course, you know, that I
could have gone through.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
What was it about it? Do you think that you
found unpleasant or overwhelming or unnatural?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I just don't think it's ever been my personality. I
think I'm quite a I don't know, it just wasn't.
I'm not an extrovert, and it wasn't. I know that
people can't comprehend that, like, but you're a musician, Like
how could you not be an extravert? But I just
I'm not. And I think I was scared of people
(06:42):
judging me, you know what I mean, Like that was
the sort of low self esteem maybe Kiwi side of
me coming out, like, you know, am I good enough
to be here? You know?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And did you feel like that at the time, Like
people were working.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, yeah, I was super paranoid. But then it's funny because,
like you get older and over the years of you know,
I'm making my fifth record at the moment, and I've
had a cad and been through heaps, I don't just
don't care anymore. Yeah, I really don't care.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's great, it's refreshing.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah. Yeah, I have realized that now I'm just like
I've I don't think I've ever enjoyed music as much
as I do now.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like, yeah, it's crazy, it's like a liberation.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah it is. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
See, I was reflecting on the album at the time
and knowing that you had kind of just written music
that you liked. It struck me that it was really
unlike some other musicians. I'm not saying to cast judgment
or anyone here, but there was nothing about that album
that was calculating like it wasn't it wasn't you trying
(07:44):
to be like, oh, I really want to like find
a niche and a sound. It wasn't anything like that.
It was just like, here's music that I enjoy. Yeah,
I'm gonna make it. And then perhaps because of that
authenticity the success came.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, do you see that? Yeah, I totally think so.
There was a real I was living in Sydney at
the time when I was writing the record, well, when
I first started writing it, I was living in Sydney
and there was a real scene happening there at the
moment that was really inspiring. It was like, I don't
know what it was, but it was like since was
so cool and like I just loved going out to
(08:19):
parties with my friends and like listening to all the
music that was getting played was super eighties and like
yacht rock was really being you know, embraced in like
two thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Explain what yacht rock like?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Hall and Notes? Yeah, get your boat Shoes on Saleen
in the Sunset.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, I think the eighties that maybe there was
there was something about that time that was kind of
you know, we were going back a couple of generations
and yeah, obviously it was a bit of a kind
of through line for you.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, it just like it really hit and I felt
it was it sort of sit with my voice perfectly
as well, like I could just deliver the vocal I wanted. Yeah, yeah,
it's crazy, I can't really sing any other genre.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, so you said that you're kind of enjoying writing
and performing music more than ever at the moment. Yeah, yeah,
And part of that's down to just not giving a
toss or anything. But what like, if you compare the
way that you're writing back when you wrote Lady Hawk
to how you are writing and performing now, what are
the like, what are the differences? You don't care as much,
but what does that look like on stage or in
(09:22):
the studio.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
So I think I didn't realize I was any good
back then. I didn't know, And now I know I'm
a good songwriter. You know. Now I'm like confident and
I'm comfortable saying that. I used I would be felt
so cringe. Saying that back in the day would be like,
oh my gosh, shame. I just no way I'd ever
say that. But now I'm like, I'm actually confident in
myself and I feel comfortable and I know what I
(09:47):
contribute to a songwriting session is valuable. So I that's
something that's been a huge obstacle for me to overcome
over the years. But it's just I don't know. I'm
ten years sober as well, so I haven't drunk alcohol
for ten years, and that that's also played a huge role.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Congratulation, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
My sanity, Yeah yeah, yeah, just just getting them mental
health and check. I think it's been really good for
my brain and actually made me realize my own worth,
which I didn't realize for many years.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, that's that's really profound. Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
It's been a it's been a pretty awesome journey, and
I'm just glad that I can That's something I can
also like show to my daughter, you know, like she's
only seeing this side of me, which is really cool.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah. How does she feel about your Do you play
around the house and stuff?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh, she's so proud of me.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
She she'll come, you know with me when I play shows,
and she'll standside a stage and take photos. She's my photographer.
I give her a job. I'm like, you get to
take pictures.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Okay, how old is she?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
She's sitting seven on the weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh yeah, okay, Okay. So this is a that's kind
of a wonderful age because they're still like the innocence
is still.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
The ya, no cynicism, no cynicism. She's just always so
like eyes wide over you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Wow, Imagine what it's like for her, Like this is
like she will remember this even you remember what you
remember it, even for the rest of your life, and
she'll remember seeing you on stage. Imagine how like foundational?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
That's I know, it's so exciting. Yeah, I love that
she enjoys it as well.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, So aside from being sober and kind of having
mental health stuff sorted, do you think that well, not sorted,
but in.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Check and check.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, yep. Do you think is there anything else you
look at over the last ten years or so that
you think has helped you get to the point where
you can say, you know what, I am a good songwriter,
I know what I'm doing here, I belong here.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Yeah. It has been a really hard journey and I
have had some like really low points, but it's yeah,
it's I think it's seeing other people's belief in me
and the longevity of that, Like how long some people
in my life have believed in me and my music
and some people I really respect as well as fellow
(11:58):
songwriters and musicians, And that's been something to me that's like, oh, actually,
maybe I am all right, you know, maybe I'm not
as bad as what I felt like it's it's really
easy to be self deprecating, and I was very good
at that, but I I don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, I'm so pleased to hear that. So can you
tell us about the other's way?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yes, I can.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We've got to put all the details and stuff online
so you don't worry about that stuff. But just for
people who aren't aware of the festival and how it
kind of works.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Yeah, cool. So it's a it's a festival where basically
music takes over k Road. So there's a bunch of
venues up k Road and there's just bands playing NonStop
over the course of a weekend, I think, And I'm
playing at Double Whammy, which I'm so excited. I've never
(12:50):
played either of themis Yeah, so this is exciting, and
I know it's a very new venue as well. This
was just something I really wanted to do as well,
Like I wanted to do this festival and this is
really cool people playing it as well that I'm quite
excited about.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So it's really special too because I think K Road
has had like a like a little rough period and
there's still like lots of police signs and that sort
of thing on some of the on some of the
retail spots up there. But it feels like just to
me that it's just starting to turn a bit of
a corner and events like this are just so good
for that community. Yeah, as a real vibrancy.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
That makes Yeah, it's really exciting. It's cool to be
asked to be a part of that as well. Yeah,
it was really tough.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, we are delighted that you're going to be playing.
We're delighted you're playing, Lady Hawk. We can't wait for
your new music. When do you reckon that?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
The aim is next year around October's always it always
takes ages. Yeah, but yeah, I've got some pretty awesome
stuff cooking.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh, I can't wait. So good to see you, and
thank you very much for your time.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Oh, thank you so much, Jake.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Ah so good. So tickets for Lady Hawk's show are
on sale now via mosh tics and we're gonna have
all the details on news talks He'd be website. Thank
you very much for your feedback, Jake love Lady Hawk,
whom you music has inspired my music and my journey.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Thank you. Congratulations on your sobriety, Congratulations on your music,
Congratulations on life in general, says Tom. Hey, Lady Hawk,
I just want to say thank you so much for
your music. You are an inspiration to me. You've helped
me through bad times in my life. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That is so good.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
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