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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's chat and sing along with Amy Shark. She's here
for her new album Sunday Sadness, which is out next month.
Her last two albums, by the way, we're number one
in Australia. She's an eight times Aria winner. She's performed
written songs with Travis Barker read Shere and Keith Urban
and Coldplay. She's also judge on Australian Idol. And she is, well,
it's lovely to meet.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You, hi, and nice to meet you too.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Haven't we been having the best time?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
The best time?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, no, that's not true. I mean, you've got to
say that stuff now. But the story is, and I've
got to share the story. Waikawa Bay. My grandparents, years
and years and years ago, and this isn't the Marlborough
Sounds used to have a batch and we used to
go there as kids and it was the one of
two houses in Waikawa Bay. And so I'm telling Amy
about this story, boring at witless and we were talking
(00:43):
about the country and then she goes, well, my husband
Shane is from Wellington, and I go does he like Wellington?
She goes, no, he likes Nelson and the Marlborough Sounds.
And you carry on with the story because allone was
a man with a batch.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I as soon as you said Wakawa bay, I just
remember because we've caught a lot of snapper at the
at Shane's family's batch in the Mulborough Sounds, and that's
the sign that is behind all the shots because it's
on this little tree facing you know, the ocean, and
it's the same bay of every bay in the Sounds
(01:18):
where your husband's family owns a back.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, it's been in the family for like, you know, generations.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Has it really So that part of the story you
didn't tell me off here, So that's entirely possible that
that that's the second house in the bay next.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
To my Not much, not too much has been done
to it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Shane's dad's builder, so he's kind of he's kept the
bones of the place. But you know, like things have
come a long way, like toilets and showers and cookers
and stuff. So but it's still very batch like. It's
not bougie at all. It's like you're going you're going
out in the sticks and it's it's the best.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's not bougie. So your success is interesting because when
I first looked you up yesterday in terms of you
being thirty eight years old, I thought, well, hold on,
where have you been? So you've been about the place,
working hard when you achieve what you've now achieved is
the journey and this ties into your job at Australian Idol.
Is the journey and the success that that brings worth it?
(02:20):
And do you revel in it now?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
One, I think I do it more so than anyone
who maybe had a bit more luck and success early on.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think I like I revel in it more because
it's like it just took me so much.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Longer, and I know how hard I worked for it,
so it's I don't take it for granted, no, And
and everything's really exciting for me still because like you know,
I didn't get signed till I was like thirty and
everyone I feel like, I feel like I've done so much,
Like I really went hard. The second I got signed,
thing my whole life changed. I had some albums that
(03:03):
did really well, I got to do some awesome stuff,
and only just now am I starting to be like, ah,
this is great. I'm actually comfortable in doing things I
like and I've got this sort of I've got a
great team who lets me do and make the music
I want to make, and it's it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I still love making music. It doesn't feel like a job.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know, what's the listen out of that? Then, in
the sense, if you have talent, you will get there,
or if you have talent, you might get there, or
you just don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's kind of got to be.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I don't know if you've ever heard of the word dama,
But if people find their dama, which is something that
they are passionate about and happen to be good at,
that's when I think it'll happen. Like I think if
you do something and if you have the hard conversations
with yourself, like am I any good? Because that's what
people have to do, and not many people do. They
just want they just want what the outcomes of the job.
(03:59):
Whereas you know, if you're like, have that conversation, you're like, no,
I'm good. I know I'm good, and I love it
and I do it for free. And if you just
keep doing it, I feel like and if you say
true to who you are, eventually, yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
A higher possibility. It's just got to all line up
and be for all the right reasons.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, So juxtapose that to Australian idol and this whole
reality television thing is just that I want, I want
to be famous pleased if I could, that'd be awesome.
Do you do you offer advice to these people or
is this just a brilliant outlet to instantly tradict yourself
to somewhere you want to be or what?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I think it's different now, and because you know, if
you asked me to be a part of this show
even five years ago, I would have been like, absolutely not.
I didn't. I never went on those shows. I never
could even fathom the thought of it. But now, music
is it was so inundated with artists and people who
think they're artists and people who write bedroom music, and
(05:00):
I'm not knocking them, but it's like there's so much
talent now and there's so many creatives. So I see
it as a I've seen so many brilliant artists come
through that platform, and I think it's actually smart now
to set them aside. You know, anything you can do
to kind of cut through, you then have to tackle
(05:20):
it a really different way, which I've seen as be
very clever and tricky about how they navigate through Australian
idol to still have their integrity and be taken seriously
and it's just so different now, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, Travis Barker and working with him, tell me about him.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Just the most loveliest, is the easiest person is really
because he doesn't look like it.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Out of all the guys he was. I mean, Mark
was like.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So Mark was the first member of Blank one two
that I worked with, and that was just a trip
for me because they're my favorite band of all time,
you know, since I was like fourteen. So Travis he
heard what I did with Mark, and then one day
I was on Twitter and I had a message from
Travis saying, if you ever want some beats and if
(06:06):
you want me to drum on a track stop. So
I kept him in the back pocket for the next
album and honestly, I just sent him the song and
he was so accommodating. He you know, he sent a
couple of trap beats. I'm like's too trappy, sent a
couple of like sort of organic stuff and I was like,
too rocky. And we found this awesome balance.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
A trap.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It wasn't it was not It was not easy.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It was like I said to my producer, maybe we
just make it work, you know, But he.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Was so accommodating.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
He kept writing to me saying, hey, if I try this,
if this, if this is too you know, too trappy
and too rappy, and and it was done within like
two days, and he, you know, he was just so
this was before Kardashian World, so he had a bit
more time. But it was just epic and it was
so great with the video, and yeah, it was a trip.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
The album that's out till next month. Quick preview? Any good?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Oh it's okay. Yeah, yeah, I'd give it a listen.
Give it a listen.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
What is the song you're going to play for us
after the break from the album. It is very exciting,
and you've got your guitar, and God bless you because
we have so many artists who come in here and
just bring some accouterments and endless hangers on with instruments
and they expect us to plug it in in three
and a half minutes. You've brought your guitar and you
brought your voice.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Keep it simple, Keep it simple.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Do you want some feedback? Text has just come in.
I'm a big fan of who's already, and I haven't
even heard of sing Cheryl. I love you Cheryl, yep, exactly,
I love you too, Cheryl. Here's my next problem. I've
got to get you to sing. But the guitar. She
has a guitar. This is all being videoed, so go
to the website and have a look. That guitar, apart
from being beautiful, is made by Russell Crowe. So I said,
(07:51):
what a beautiful guitar? Is that a three quarters side?
She goes, yeah, Russell Crowe made me this one. I said,
what was that?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What I sound like?
Speaker 5 (07:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, no, no, it was about It was a bad impersonation.
But you see, so Russell Crowe because the New Zealander.
Of course, don't let them tell you he's astraight. And
you realize his New Zealander.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
We claim him like we claim Lord, we claim all
your people.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Does his family have a batch at Waikwa bay?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't know that much.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
But what a beautiful guitar? Why would he make you
a guitar.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
We've become really good friends, Like we played tennis.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I played tennis with him and his girlfriend and my
Shane and I and we I don't know how this
has happened.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
That's what I mean. You know, I was telling you
I get to do this cool stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm saying it's, you know, literally for you, Russell rings
guitar for you, it's a silly job that I'm amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's crazy, but I'm very appreciative.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's well, that's very good. We're appreciative of you being here.
So so so hit the Russell? Do you call it
the Russell?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Actually I do now thanks to you.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
It's called the Russell, So hit the Russell? And what
are you playing?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
By the way, it's called two friends and I haven't
warmed up, but I'm just gonna go in.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You'll be brilli with thirty nine seconds.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I want you judge on Australian.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, exactly what are you doing on Australia?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Do you buy someone out when it's no good?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Is that what you do?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
You just work, you navigate your nose and yeses, and
it's it's really hard.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Actually yeah. Well, well I'm going to be your Australian
New Zealand idol judge. Right, I'm not gonna look at
you ladies and gentlemen. Amy shock.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Mm just had a crazy flashback of a night where
you were saying words that we know weren't right, and
I feel like things never been the same between us.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Who gives it?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Damn we made our I like everyone who asked me
about that night.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
And you try to play coo cuckoo, choo my baby.
Maybe we could find a nice place somewhere in the
middle of secrets and love.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Maybe there could be a little romance between friends who
are falling in love.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And maybe you could stay at my place.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
No one's ever a.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Home, man, I'll lock up the gate.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I wish we could tell the whole world two friends
who are falling and falling in love. Today was just
one of those days. Would have bitch, just to think,
I gotta wake up and do it all again, and
you're all stressed out, don't know who to trust? Is
(10:40):
everyone gonna find out about us? I don't know, I
don't care, and I don't regret one second of it.
So let's try to.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Play it cool.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Cuckoo could choo my baby.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Maybe we could find a nice place somewhere in the
middle of secrets and love. Maybe there could be a
little romance.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Between friends who.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Are falling in love. Maybe you could stay in my
place no one's ad home, man, I'll lock up the game.
I wish we could tell the whole world to friends
who were falling and falling in love.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Hello, Hello, Sarah told Becky, and Becky told Tigan and
Tea and told SE's friends with Crystal and Crystal told Sally,
Sally loves Daniel, and Daniel told Katie and Katie Flipping
(11:49):
hates me. Sarah told Becky, Becky told Tigan, Teagan told
Sophie and Sophie's friends with Crystal. Crystal told Sally and
Sally loves Daniel. Daniel told Katie Katy hates me.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Maybe we could find a nice place so we're in
the middle of secrets and love.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Maybe there could be a little.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Romance between friends who were falling in love.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Maybe you could stay in my place. No one's a
a hale man, I'll lock up again. I wish we could.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Tell the whole world two friends who were falling and
falling in love.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Whoa go.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
To friends who are falling falling in love.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You can come back next week.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
This rounds right through it now. Lovely to meet you
and talk with you. Go well, good luck with the
old and good luck with the tour later on this year.
Nice to see.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Thank you so much, Thanks for the chat. Are you mean?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Shack?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
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