October 30, 2024 • 12 mins
Antonia Prebble has been busy.
The Kiwi actress has just recorded the second season of ‘Double Parked’, the second season of her award-winning podcast is releasing soon, and she also has three other TV shows currently in development.
Prebble's husband, Dan Musgrove, is a writer by trade, and she revealed that the three shows were a collaborative effort between the two of them.
One of the projects is a black comedy, another is a psychological thriller, and the third is a horror movie, Prebble revealed, and the latter two are genres she’s personally not a fan of.
“I don't like watching things like that because I find them too full on and violent,” she said.
“Whenever we work in it, I’m like, why are we doing this?”
The television and film industry is going through a bit of a rough patch, and while Prebble generally tries not to buy into the rhetoric about the state of the industry, she admits it isn’t looking great.
“It’s a lot harder to find those premium style shows,” she told Hosking.
“If you want to make something that costs around $8 million you, generally speaking, have to have international support.”
“It’s pretty hard to get.”
It’s also becoming more and more uncommon for shows to be renewed and picked up for multiple seasons, so the second season of ‘Double Parked’ came as good news.
“We were so thrilled.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch up time with Antonio Prebble as she was recorded
the second season of Double Park, which is out now.
She has the second season of her award winning podcast
out very soon What Matters Most, and also I am
told three other television shows in development. So Antonia Prebble
is with us A very good morning to.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You morning, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Do you know Craig Parker? I do, right, So we
had Craig Parker on the other day and he was
running the same line that you are with the secret
television project thing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's a good line, could mean.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Anything, and he gave nothing away. So can you give
anything away?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I'll give you more than Craig Parker.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
There you go about that. There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So these projects are these real projects that are going
to come to fruition or we don't know?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Look, we really hope.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
So so my husband Dan Musgrove is a writer by trade.
I mean, he's also an actor, but he almost exclusively writes.
Now since we've been together and it was kind of
one of those pivoting during COVID times, we've started writing
together and creating projects together. So that's why they really
are happening. Because I've physically done the writing of them,
(01:13):
but yeah, look, I can tell you we've got a few.
One is sort of a quirky black comedy about Funnily enough,
they've all got leads for women sort of in their
late thirties early forties.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's strange how we've said to be focusing on that.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
But one is about, yeah, a mother who's not coping
at all with her life and goes to quite a
sort of a modern retelling of the doll's house actually
insince the house. And then ones are really kind of
awful psychological thriller murdery thing that whenever we work on it,
I'm like, why are we doing this? Because I don't
like watching things like that because I find them too
(01:52):
full on and violent. But anyway, that's another one. And
then we've just started working on like a horror movie again,
which I don't want, so I don't know why why
I'm sort of focusing on that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So do you set aside time with your husband to
do this? Is this like work time? And we'll start
now and we'll have lunch and then after lunch we'll
sit down and then we'll develop something.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, yeah, we do.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And with some of those projects we have other collaborators
as well, which kind of actually makes it easier in
terms of what you're saying calming out time because you're
involving other people schedules, whereas if it's just you and
your own house, it's quite easy for it to sort
of bleed out into other things. But yeah, we try
to keep it pretty pretty highly organized. But the good
(02:35):
thing about working with someone you live with is you
can do a lot of it after the children are
in bed and you.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And you got married. This year we did. That's going well,
so far, so good.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I think we're six months and so I don't know
what that means in terms of like the material later
it wouldn't even be cotton.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't know what it is the what's two view
of the televisual landscape at the moment given the media.
So fluxy, Yes, fluxy.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I like that word for it. Fluxy is sort of
better than some other words you might use, isn't it?
Can I borrow your word and.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Say it's fluxy it is flux? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, I'm someone I never I'm an optimistic person
and I really try not to kind of buy into
general rhetoric about how bad things are because historically for
me personally, I've had times when apparently it's really busy
out there and I've had no work, or also when
it's a desert out there, but for whatever reason, I'm
actually pretty busy. But generally speaking, it isn't looking great.
(03:33):
And people were hoping for a bit of a better
twenty twenty four than twenty twenty three and that did
not happen at all. And now again there's whispers of
maybe twenty twenty five getting being better, but it's quite
hard to it's just changed. It's a lot harder to
fund those premium style shows, which was The Outrageous Fortune
or The West Side, which is about eight million dollars
per season. It just doesn't really happen anymore under the
(03:54):
New Zealand funding model.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So just to explain it to people, so we go
to New Zealand and you go, I've got West Side
or whatever, and it's eight million dollars. That that's not
a thing. Really, there is not eight million dollars to
do something Grandi Ocean.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
If you want to make something that costs around eight
million dollars, you generally speaking have to have international support.
So some sort of funding from an international body, and
it's pretty hard to get see that.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's a funny thing, isn't it, because presumably that's a
hit and miss equation. It's a risk at eight million dollars,
but that all the great stuff we talk of is
the stuff that may be exactly and may it made
the difference. So what are we left with then?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Just small?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Around so I think around around three million dollars and
Double Part was made for three million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It was made even less for the first season, right,
first season two weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So you know, you can make shows for that amount
of money, but they aren't just that that premium level
or the hour long dramas.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know, you can't really make it out.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So the fact that Double Park has got its second
season must be good news all by its Yes, in
a world where so much doesn't get a second season.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yes, absolutely, we were so thrilled that it did.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And yeah, so where does it go then? So as
an actor you get your part, you go right, because
I think the last time you're on this program you
talked about it with Double Park was going to be
a thing. So it goes season season two, So then
what do you see do you see season three, four, five, six,
and seven and it becomes like Friends and goes down
in television history as one of the greats or who
would know?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Who would know?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
So where we're at at the moment as we are, well,
I say we like I have ownership of that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The production company, Kevin and Co.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
They're applying for development funding from New Zealand on Air,
which means they get a much smaller bag of money
to write some scripts and develop the stories for a
potential season three. And then after that development money has
been used, you basically use the materials that you've developed
with that development money to try to apply for full fund.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
In fact, you've got season one and two help you
or hinder you? Or do they go well that you
should be on your own go out and get some
commercial money.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Now that's a really good question.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Actually, I think it's probably a bit of both, and
I think out the production company probably is potentially looking
off shore to get a little bit of help to
make the picture look a bit more attractive. Yeah, it's
a shame, isn't it, because you think, oh, great, it's working, well,
this is what people are watching. Surely we want to
make things that people are watching, let's give them another go.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But yeah, it just doesn't work that way. It doesn't.
It's a funny game.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now the podcast, the award winning what matters most is
actually coming out season three, not season two. So you
have I gave before the news some podcast stats, and
there are millions of podcasts stats. There are millions of
podcasts in the world, and the most common episode is
episode one. Because most podcasts never get past episode one.
(06:52):
It's hilarious, well not for the people who've never got
past episode one, but for you to be into season three.
You obviously got on to something. What's the recipe? Because
I had this ongoing discussion with management management here or
big in podcasts. They think podcasts is where it's at,
and the future of one of the most popular podcasts
in the country is mine. Yeah, but mine isn't a podcast.
(07:16):
It's just this radio program.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I've always Can I ask you a question about that?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Then?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Because I often wondered this with radio shows that are podcasts.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
How what's what's the difference between.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Couldn't agree more excellent questions? An excellent question, And that's
what I say to them. I said, it's not a podcast, ago,
yes it is. And so we put out this whole
we put out segments of this program as a podcast, okay,
and then there's a whole program podcast, which is literally
what we're doing now that will turn out to be
a podcast. Gotcha, I argue it's not a podcast. I argue,
this is what it is, and the fact you can
(07:47):
get it somewhere else doesn't make it anything different than
what it is currently, which is a radio show.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Gotcha, am I right?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have I would think
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It's a radio show that's available on different platforms to
listen whenever you would like.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You can't tell the management out there there.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But the good thing is it means then you can
go on for the radio awards and the podcast awards, right, we.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Haven't thought about them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Is that how you become award winning? So what's your
recipe for successful podcasting? Given in my limited experience in
listening to them, some of them indulge themselves too much,
They go on for too long, and they seem to
have this idea that if you talk for three or
four hours, we'll cover all the topics. Whereas I've got
you can find this morning and TONI your preople.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
To eleven minutes. It's eleven minutes, says the begetting a
middle in a need.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I think it's about first of all, doing something that
you genuinely care about, like that you're passionate about, that
you're curious about, that you're personally really invested in, because
that will first of all get you past episode one.
But then I think it keeps your vision quite quite clear,
(08:53):
so it's not sort of waffling off on the side
of things. And then I think you're absolutely right about
the time. So Jackie, me and Jackie and our producer
Hannah with Jackie McGuire Jackie maguire, my friend and clinical
Psychologists Extraordinaire. We're very conscious that people are giving us
their time and so we want to give them a
return on their investment. So we always try to have
(09:15):
our podcast less than an hour, and actually our new
structure plan going forward is that hopefully they'll be half
an hour to forty minutes, and that within that forty
minutes it will be really.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Useful practical stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
So the style of our podcast is that it's a
conversation between me and Jackie. I'm sort of taking the
role of what our listeners would be and asking questions
to Jackie. She's offering her expertise and advice and tools
as a clinical psychologist, offering them to our listeners to
help them understand.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Various aspects of their life.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
A bit more so, we really think of the podcast
as a resource, and we want to give people as much,
you know, bang for their buck, so to speak, in
that amount of time.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
What are the metrics? Do you look at the metrics?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I actually don't.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, if we have a wonderful producer, Hannah, she's all
over that, I'm to be honest, I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
If she just so it's going really well.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, she just says nice things like that, keep doing
what you're doing, gals. For me, I'm less concerned with that,
particularly because I mean, one great thing about podcasts in
relation in comparison to making TV is work in versus
workout is so much better. I mean, I do sort of,
you know, two to three hours prep for an episode,
(10:28):
and then the actual recording might take about an hour
and a half, and then someone else does the editing,
and then you have an episode of a show, which.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Can I just say, as a seasoned professional in this industry,
for quite as a podcasters, well not just as the podcaster,
but that ratio of prep to delivery is very rare.
What you're good on you for working hard, because what
you'll find is if you work hard, you get the
product out the other end. And too many people in
this industry just rock up five minutes before and think
that if they just go, something will come out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, that is interesting because Yeah, even though I'm taking
the role of again the listener who theoretically needs to
be who knows nothing about the topic, for me, I
feel like I want to. I really want to have
an understanding of it, so I know what questions to ask,
what might be the interesting questions to ask, and also
how I can relate to that topic bring my.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Experience to it. So thanks very interasting, Thanks my season.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Take the advice or not. One last question? Is that
an aura ring you're wearing?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh, it's a knockoff version.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
What does it work?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Does it read anything?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah? It reads things, but I sometimes wonder like if
it's it does read my steps and it tells me
my sleep. But sometimes I have been up with the
boys overnight And what did you get last night?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
For a score? For your sleep.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Do you know, Oh you don't have to look at
your phone? Is it in the nineties? Do you get
a ninety in a crown and five and a crown?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't mind waiting while I just open it.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Oh okay, I got ninety three excellent, eight hours and
thirty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, so yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
No wonder you're so good this morning. That word seria
was the seventy two and you got four hours sleep,
And I wonder.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
If you was so boring.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm never having a that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I'm just fascinated by oral rings.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's all I can't. I can't imagine it's your vibe.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No, no, no, no it isn't, but it is my wife's.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Anyway, Listen to Joy to see You, Thanks, and we'll
get you on one of those three projects. We'll get
you back again. Talk so about nice to see it
and don't you approve it?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
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Speaker 1 (12:25):
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Catch up time with Antonio Prebble as she was recorded
the second season of Double Park, which is out now.
She has the second season of her award winning podcast
out very soon What Matters Most, and also I am
told three other television shows in development. So Antonia Prebble
is with us A very good morning to.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
You morning, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Do you know Craig Parker? I do, right, So we
had Craig Parker on the other day and he was
running the same line that you are with the secret
television project thing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's a good line, could mean.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Anything, and he gave nothing away. So can you give
anything away?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I'll give you more than Craig Parker.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
There you go about that. There you go.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So these projects are these real projects that are going
to come to fruition or we don't know?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Look, we really hope.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
So so my husband Dan Musgrove is a writer by trade.
I mean, he's also an actor, but he almost exclusively writes.
Now since we've been together and it was kind of
one of those pivoting during COVID times, we've started writing
together and creating projects together. So that's why they really
are happening. Because I've physically done the writing of them,
(01:13):
but yeah, look, I can tell you we've got a few.
One is sort of a quirky black comedy about Funnily enough,
they've all got leads for women sort of in their
late thirties early forties.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's strange how we've said to be focusing on that.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
But one is about, yeah, a mother who's not coping
at all with her life and goes to quite a
sort of a modern retelling of the doll's house actually
insince the house. And then ones are really kind of
awful psychological thriller murdery thing that whenever we work on it,
I'm like, why are we doing this? Because I don't
like watching things like that because I find them too
(01:52):
full on and violent. But anyway, that's another one. And
then we've just started working on like a horror movie again,
which I don't want, so I don't know why why
I'm sort of focusing on that.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So do you set aside time with your husband to
do this? Is this like work time? And we'll start
now and we'll have lunch and then after lunch we'll
sit down and then we'll develop something.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, yeah, we do.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And with some of those projects we have other collaborators
as well, which kind of actually makes it easier in
terms of what you're saying calming out time because you're
involving other people schedules, whereas if it's just you and
your own house, it's quite easy for it to sort
of bleed out into other things. But yeah, we try
to keep it pretty pretty highly organized. But the good
(02:35):
thing about working with someone you live with is you
can do a lot of it after the children are
in bed and you.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And you got married. This year we did. That's going well,
so far, so good.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I think we're six months and so I don't know
what that means in terms of like the material later
it wouldn't even be cotton.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't know what it is the what's two view
of the televisual landscape at the moment given the media.
So fluxy, Yes, fluxy.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I like that word for it. Fluxy is sort of
better than some other words you might use, isn't it?
Can I borrow your word and.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Say it's fluxy it is flux? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, I'm someone I never I'm an optimistic person
and I really try not to kind of buy into
general rhetoric about how bad things are because historically for
me personally, I've had times when apparently it's really busy
out there and I've had no work, or also when
it's a desert out there, but for whatever reason, I'm
actually pretty busy. But generally speaking, it isn't looking great.
(03:33):
And people were hoping for a bit of a better
twenty twenty four than twenty twenty three and that did
not happen at all. And now again there's whispers of
maybe twenty twenty five getting being better, but it's quite
hard to it's just changed. It's a lot harder to
fund those premium style shows, which was The Outrageous Fortune
or The West Side, which is about eight million dollars
per season. It just doesn't really happen anymore under the
(03:54):
New Zealand funding model.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
So just to explain it to people, so we go
to New Zealand and you go, I've got West Side
or whatever, and it's eight million dollars. That that's not
a thing. Really, there is not eight million dollars to
do something Grandi Ocean.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
If you want to make something that costs around eight
million dollars, you generally speaking have to have international support.
So some sort of funding from an international body, and
it's pretty hard to get see that.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's a funny thing, isn't it, because presumably that's a
hit and miss equation. It's a risk at eight million dollars,
but that all the great stuff we talk of is
the stuff that may be exactly and may it made
the difference. So what are we left with then?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Just small?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Around so I think around around three million dollars and
Double Part was made for three million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It was made even less for the first season, right,
first season two weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So you know, you can make shows for that amount
of money, but they aren't just that that premium level
or the hour long dramas.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know, you can't really make it out.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So the fact that Double Park has got its second
season must be good news all by its Yes, in
a world where so much doesn't get a second season.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yes, absolutely, we were so thrilled that it did.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And yeah, so where does it go then? So as
an actor you get your part, you go right, because
I think the last time you're on this program you
talked about it with Double Park was going to be
a thing. So it goes season season two, So then
what do you see do you see season three, four, five, six,
and seven and it becomes like Friends and goes down
in television history as one of the greats or who
would know?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Who would know?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
So where we're at at the moment as we are, well,
I say we like I have ownership of that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The production company, Kevin and Co.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
They're applying for development funding from New Zealand on Air,
which means they get a much smaller bag of money
to write some scripts and develop the stories for a
potential season three. And then after that development money has
been used, you basically use the materials that you've developed
with that development money to try to apply for full fund.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
In fact, you've got season one and two help you
or hinder you? Or do they go well that you
should be on your own go out and get some
commercial money.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Now that's a really good question.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Actually, I think it's probably a bit of both, and
I think out the production company probably is potentially looking
off shore to get a little bit of help to
make the picture look a bit more attractive. Yeah, it's
a shame, isn't it, because you think, oh, great, it's working, well,
this is what people are watching. Surely we want to
make things that people are watching, let's give them another go.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But yeah, it just doesn't work that way. It doesn't.
It's a funny game.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now the podcast, the award winning what matters most is
actually coming out season three, not season two. So you
have I gave before the news some podcast stats, and
there are millions of podcasts stats. There are millions of
podcasts in the world, and the most common episode is
episode one. Because most podcasts never get past episode one.
(06:52):
It's hilarious, well not for the people who've never got
past episode one, but for you to be into season three.
You obviously got on to something. What's the recipe? Because
I had this ongoing discussion with management management here or
big in podcasts. They think podcasts is where it's at,
and the future of one of the most popular podcasts
in the country is mine. Yeah, but mine isn't a podcast.
(07:16):
It's just this radio program.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I've always Can I ask you a question about that?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Then?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Because I often wondered this with radio shows that are podcasts.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
How what's what's the difference between.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Couldn't agree more excellent questions? An excellent question, And that's
what I say to them. I said, it's not a podcast, ago,
yes it is. And so we put out this whole
we put out segments of this program as a podcast, okay,
and then there's a whole program podcast, which is literally
what we're doing now that will turn out to be
a podcast. Gotcha, I argue it's not a podcast. I argue,
this is what it is, and the fact you can
(07:47):
get it somewhere else doesn't make it anything different than
what it is currently, which is a radio show.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Gotcha, am I right?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have I would think
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
It's a radio show that's available on different platforms to
listen whenever you would like.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You can't tell the management out there there.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
But the good thing is it means then you can
go on for the radio awards and the podcast awards, right, we.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Haven't thought about them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Is that how you become award winning? So what's your
recipe for successful podcasting? Given in my limited experience in
listening to them, some of them indulge themselves too much,
They go on for too long, and they seem to
have this idea that if you talk for three or
four hours, we'll cover all the topics. Whereas I've got
you can find this morning and TONI your preople.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
To eleven minutes. It's eleven minutes, says the begetting a
middle in a need.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
I think it's about first of all, doing something that
you genuinely care about, like that you're passionate about, that
you're curious about, that you're personally really invested in, because
that will first of all get you past episode one.
But then I think it keeps your vision quite quite clear,
(08:53):
so it's not sort of waffling off on the side
of things. And then I think you're absolutely right about
the time. So Jackie, me and Jackie and our producer
Hannah with Jackie McGuire Jackie maguire, my friend and clinical
Psychologists Extraordinaire. We're very conscious that people are giving us
their time and so we want to give them a
return on their investment. So we always try to have
(09:15):
our podcast less than an hour, and actually our new
structure plan going forward is that hopefully they'll be half
an hour to forty minutes, and that within that forty
minutes it will be really.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Useful practical stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
So the style of our podcast is that it's a
conversation between me and Jackie. I'm sort of taking the
role of what our listeners would be and asking questions
to Jackie. She's offering her expertise and advice and tools
as a clinical psychologist, offering them to our listeners to
help them understand.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Various aspects of their life.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
A bit more so, we really think of the podcast
as a resource, and we want to give people as much,
you know, bang for their buck, so to speak, in
that amount of time.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
What are the metrics? Do you look at the metrics?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I actually don't.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, if we have a wonderful producer, Hannah, she's all
over that, I'm to be honest, I'm.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
If she just so it's going really well.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, she just says nice things like that, keep doing
what you're doing, gals. For me, I'm less concerned with that,
particularly because I mean, one great thing about podcasts in
relation in comparison to making TV is work in versus
workout is so much better. I mean, I do sort of,
you know, two to three hours prep for an episode,
(10:28):
and then the actual recording might take about an hour
and a half, and then someone else does the editing,
and then you have an episode of a show, which.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Can I just say, as a seasoned professional in this industry,
for quite as a podcasters, well not just as the podcaster,
but that ratio of prep to delivery is very rare.
What you're good on you for working hard, because what
you'll find is if you work hard, you get the
product out the other end. And too many people in
this industry just rock up five minutes before and think
that if they just go, something will come out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, that is interesting because Yeah, even though I'm taking
the role of again the listener who theoretically needs to
be who knows nothing about the topic, for me, I
feel like I want to. I really want to have
an understanding of it, so I know what questions to ask,
what might be the interesting questions to ask, and also
how I can relate to that topic bring my.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Experience to it. So thanks very interasting, Thanks my season.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Take the advice or not. One last question? Is that
an aura ring you're wearing?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Oh, it's a knockoff version.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
What does it work?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Does it read anything?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah? It reads things, but I sometimes wonder like if
it's it does read my steps and it tells me
my sleep. But sometimes I have been up with the
boys overnight And what did you get last night?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
For a score? For your sleep.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Do you know, Oh you don't have to look at
your phone? Is it in the nineties? Do you get
a ninety in a crown and five and a crown?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't mind waiting while I just open it.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Oh okay, I got ninety three excellent, eight hours and
thirty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, so yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
No wonder you're so good this morning. That word seria
was the seventy two and you got four hours sleep,
And I wonder.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
If you was so boring.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I'm never having a that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I'm just fascinated by oral rings.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's all I can't. I can't imagine it's your vibe.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
No, no, no, no it isn't, but it is my wife's.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Anyway, Listen to Joy to see You, Thanks, and we'll
get you on one of those three projects. We'll get
you back again. Talk so about nice to see it
and don't you approve it?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news Talks.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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