National Leader Christopher Luxon is convinced his new youth unemployment plan will get more young people on the right path.
The plan would see under-25s given financial incentives for finding jobs and staying employed and handed penalties if they don't take part.
The Government says the plan demonises young people and over-simplifies complex issues.
But Luxon told Mike Hosking the number of young people on the Jobseeker benefit has doubled, during a time when employers are crying out for workers.
He says if people don't get off the benefit before they're 20, they're likely to stay on the benefit throughout their 20s.
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