November 9, 2025 • 11 mins
Chris Luxon says India and New Zealand are continuing to get closer to reaching a free trade agreement.
Trade Minister Todd McClay hosted Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal in Auckland last week for a fifth round of talks on an FTA.
The Prime Minister says it's been good to see Goyal coming here when he's so in-demand around the world.
Luxon told Mike Hosking that McClay will head to India this week for further talks.
He says they're making good progress, with some negotiations, but they're committed to getting the deal done.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Prime Minister is with us. Very good morning to you, Mike.
How are you? I'm extremely well. A couple of quickies
if you wouldn't mind indo your last week? Did we
make progress of things good? Are we going to get
across the line and win? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Things are going on a good momentum, positive, constructive. Minister
Goyel coming down here when he's probably most in demand
sort of man and trade around the world. And then
Todd McClay will go to India this week as well.
So we're making good progress. There's some tough negotiations going on,
as you could imagine, but we're very committed to getting
it done good.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
As talking to Katie over the weekend, we we surmised
that it was this last Saturday, this previous Saturday, will
be the election next year? Was that Your guess is
that you get early November sex or seventh of November.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We can't come out and announce it earlier in the
new year.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You reckon? But I mean tradition right, any thought at all?
Are you going to No, I'll do that over summer,
none whatsoever. I'll but do you go as long as possible?
Would you? We'll see that's what we'll let were to
go early. You're not going to You're not going to
call a snap election, are you now? Yeah? Did you
(01:00):
read the boot Camp report.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I haven't had a chance to read it fully, but
I know what's going, what's been going.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
What would your summation of it be?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, look, good effort, some good things that work really
well in the residential components. In fact, we'd like to
put more of that stuff into the broader youth justice facilities.
Some real challenges when the kids came out and went
into the community again. And now we've got our yso
legislation coming through. We'll actually have a new cohort starting
up in the boot camps earlier in the new year,
(01:28):
and we hope to sort of perfect it. But at
the end of the day, I'm going to keep trying
these things because actually the message we've sent young people
is that youth offending is down sixteen percent, RAM raids
are down eighty five percent, and this is an important
element of it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So here's the reason I raised this one. It was
I read the summation of it and it seemed to
have the good and the bad and bits and pieces
in the world, and so that's what I would have
expected Radio New Zealand's headline was implementation of boot camp rushed.
Report concludes that that is not the conclusion though, is it.
It's mentioned, but it's not the conclusion.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
No, the conclusion is I think, you know, there were
some parts that worked well, some parts that need to
be improved, but it's an important element. And the bigger
point is that when did you last see serious youth
a fending down sixteen percent in this country?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Exactly? So my concern again is that this is a
state funded organization that is showing a level of bias
that I would be concerned about. Are you concerned about that?
Because if I saw the headline as a punter in
New Zealand, I go right, government waste of money.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yet again, Mike, if I got bent out of shap
every time I have a negative headline from the good.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Stuff the government, it's not a negative headline, it's a
false negative headline. And that's the key to it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's a question for people in media if you had
a media watch organization, would be a good discussion to
have with them. For me, I've got to get on
and actually get youth offending down.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, do you from summation of the report, though, is
there enough because the criticism was that you're spending quite
a lot on it bang for buck. Is there enough
good in there to justify? I think there is.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
One of the big takeaways was the community stuff and
the support we were able to give those kids when
they're in re residential was really fantastic. We'd like to
extend that residential, I suspect, but there are principles in
the way and that support that we give those kids
that we should build into the youth justice facilities permanently anyway,
and so that's where we've oftenly got to get to.
But it's one element, and what I'm proud about is
(03:16):
genuinely the fact that it's down sixteen percent, which is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The Cooks I wonder if Peter's is wrong. Peter's has
long argued friendship counts. I don't think it does, does
it well?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The issue here is we're good with the Cook Islands.
People love them fantastic, but we're very frustrated with the
Cook Islands government.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Is the government or Brown?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's primose to Brown and his government. He represents that government.
I mean, we have an issue, which is that we
have a responsibility constitutionally for the defense and security of
the realm, which includes you know, the Cooks is one
of the realm countries. We provide budget money to them
on the basis of trust. Our trust has been broken.
We want that restored.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, but it's not going to be That's my point.
We all know, and I don't think anyone disputes the
Cooks are in the wrong here, but thirty million clearly
accounts for nothing. He couldn't give a monkeys.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, let's find out.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, well we are finding out.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, we've escalated it, and so we want those officials
working together to get those give us the mitigations that
we want and the trust are restored.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, was yesterday on the myth just a Sunday announcement
because I can't work out what the problem is. Myth
myths not new, The boy was not new. The problems
aren't new. I mean, why a shifted.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean one is you've had a doubling of meth consumption.
Maybe other drugs are down. Myths up because it's cheap,
but relative to the rest of the world, myth in
New Zealand is expensive. We're up against now big Mexican
drug cartels that are actually sending boat submarines into.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
The Pacific, but none that's new.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, well, it suddenly has changed a lot from what
I would understand what it was five years ago versus
where we sit today in the last two years, and
it needed a serious response. That's why I tasked those
ministers in March to say, look, we've got to do
something different. In addition to everything else that's going on,
there are some things that we can do differently about
getting working with our partners. I mean, if you talk
to the Prime Minister of Somemr as I did last week,
you know it was a new prime minister, very much
(04:55):
on his agenda. Tong is concerned, Fiji's concerned, Australia's concerned,
We're concer and so we've got to work together on that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
One of the things we've held off on doing until
we saw what happened in Australia. I'm assuming you're aware
of this, the under sixteen social media band, the tech
company's acquiesced. So will we go forward with that now?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, we will. We're going to go forward with that.
We'll have a version and put some legislation in place
before the election.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The local content subsidy are they acquiesced on last week
in Australia as well? So your Netflix is going to
pay ten percent of their income and they're going to
make local production. Can we do that here? Now? Is
something that Goldsmith will look at? Is he still looking
at He does a lot of looking that guy.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He's done a good job on myth just on Sunday
he has Why are you so skipped.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
About the myth? Well, because it's not a new problem,
and it's like it's been going on for years. I'm
not saying it's not a serious problem. It's been going
on for years, and the problem is massive. And thirty
million dollars on a Sunday afternoon via press release doesn't
materially I mean what we should be asking is not
necessarily a faulty, but I mean we pay more in
(05:58):
this country for meth than any in the world. Yeah,
and the amounts doubled. Yeah, how stupid are we?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah? I mean, come on, well, the fact is that
our prices in New Zealand have fallen, but they're still
seven to fifteen times high and they are in North America.
And that's why it's attractive for those international crime organizations
to move into this part of the world, which we
haven't seen before.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
In the elegy. There's something about us though, doesn't it.
What's that in terms of New Zealand as a country. Well,
it may well do. But the point is that it's
a problem. It's impacting individuals, families and communities and we've
got to try something anyway. Any Way, back to Goldsmith
so the local subsidy. They also in Australia last week
announced a journalist fund as well. All I'm asking is
that was stuff we were waiting on to see if
it was going to work in Australia. Appears to be
(06:36):
going to work in Australia. So as a result, will
we now push forward on those three things?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I suspect here we wanted to progress those things.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yep, okay, good. Renny Ian says we are not going
to grow our way out of this. We need to
sell some stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You're talking about the report about asset sales from Terstry
last week.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Look, I mean I think well, first and for most
I've said we're not going to do asset sales as term.
We've got an election policy to develop for twenty six
I think your points are fair one, which is and
the reports a good challenge, which is Actually I think
we need to have quite a mature conversation about assets
in New Zealand. I think it's been a very simplistic
one of you either flog them off or you keep them.
But you and I don't have the same cars that
(07:14):
we had when we first started, and we don't keep
our assets forever. And actually, when you look at what
savior funds do or super funds do, they rotate assets
through a portfolio, you know we should be thinking about
whether that's the right thing for us to be doing too.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
How would we do that? Because in looking at the list,
I mean the roads, the hospitals, the national parks. That's
not real as far as I can work out, correct
me if I'm wrong, But he in New Zealanders Gen
Taylor's are kwei railers, kwei bankers, TV and Z. Although
it's not worth anything, is yeah? Is that where you look? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I mean, first and foremost, I don't think our government
agencies do a very good job of managing their assets
in general. In fact, we're the fourth worst and the
OECD and running an asset management fifty percent of our
most capital intentsive agencies haven't had asset management plans, which
means they don't even know what they own and where
the assets actually are. But if you look at something
(08:04):
like PAMU, which is a whole bunch of farmland that
the government owns and runs.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Why do we do that?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Because like for the next out to what twenty thirty one,
we're going to have high prices for protein and red meat.
We're pretty bad I imagined as a government run farm
relative to other farmers doing that job much better, And
that could give young farmers an opportunity to get into
some land. So then you'd say, the money that we
get out of that might be better spent building out
a road that actually ends up creating a whole bunch
of economic How.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
On that track do you go though? That's I mean,
Palm is probably your best example, But you go down
to Jim Taylor's the politics gets in play, doesn't it. Yeah,
there will be a.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Whole bunch of politics, But I think I'd like to
keep it a level up and have a principled conversation
because reckon, you can do that well.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I'd like to.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Try because I think you know, when you look at Tamasak,
which you know, Labor had a policy a couple of
weeks ago on what they call their Future Fund where
they said, we're going to put all these assets together
in a B and a bucket, but then they're not
going to rotate or recycle the assets. Well to mark success,
is it from nineteen seventy four, I think it was
to today They've cycled assets in and out of that
portfolio in much the same way as super Fund does
(09:06):
or key We say that, do you.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Agree with the I just don't want to get into
this clickbake discussion about who he's going to see l
assets because this is too important for this is really
broadly speaking correct though.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think it's a good challenge. I think there is
a lot that we can do around government efficiencies. For sure,
we've got a hell of a long way to go
still there. I think we can grow the economy quickly.
But I think this is a legitimate, good conversation for
us to have. But it needs to be more mature
than what we've had in the past, which is it
does become political really quickly. It becomes very emotive very quickly.
(09:38):
But there is genuine case for if you look at
the success stories of Singapore and other places, you know,
recycling assets so that actually the New Zealand taxpayer gets
money from assets that then is deployed to another asset
that actually creates value for them, that is more useful
for them. That's good. And as I said, it's like
I was thinking about it this morning. It's like no
different from you know, I used to have a nineteen
(09:58):
sixty two Riley off. I don't own it anymore, you know,
so you track, you know, you don't own your assets forever.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Good to see you. You're not seeing anything big this week?
Well you got anything? You're on the bubble this week
and you know this, don't you know this? Can I
just give you one small piece of advice and in
question time hardened up when they asked you last week
about that homeless thing. Yeah, I saw it was only
a review to make that moment, but I own it
and answer the question. Well, I have owned it because
(10:26):
I'm very afterwards at the time, you know. But the
question I was asked is am I banning homelessness? Passing
the laws and technically technical? So here's the question you
asked me. You know, I'm not we haven't passed a
law on that. We haven't discussed it, but i'll tell
you what we do. Downtown Auckland's bugget and time, Minister.
I'm going to clean it up and we're going to
start next week. Sit back down, hipkins, I'm in charge.
(10:48):
That's that's where you're going with that. Thank you for
the one. I won't take it all. Leave it for
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The Prime Minister is with us. Very good morning to you, Mike.
How are you? I'm extremely well. A couple of quickies
if you wouldn't mind indo your last week? Did we
make progress of things good? Are we going to get
across the line and win? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Things are going on a good momentum, positive, constructive. Minister
Goyel coming down here when he's probably most in demand
sort of man and trade around the world. And then
Todd McClay will go to India this week as well.
So we're making good progress. There's some tough negotiations going on,
as you could imagine, but we're very committed to getting
it done good.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
As talking to Katie over the weekend, we we surmised
that it was this last Saturday, this previous Saturday, will
be the election next year? Was that Your guess is
that you get early November sex or seventh of November.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We can't come out and announce it earlier in the
new year.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You reckon? But I mean tradition right, any thought at all?
Are you going to No, I'll do that over summer,
none whatsoever. I'll but do you go as long as possible?
Would you? We'll see that's what we'll let were to
go early. You're not going to You're not going to
call a snap election, are you now? Yeah? Did you
(01:00):
read the boot Camp report.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I haven't had a chance to read it fully, but
I know what's going, what's been going.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
What would your summation of it be?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, look, good effort, some good things that work really
well in the residential components. In fact, we'd like to
put more of that stuff into the broader youth justice facilities.
Some real challenges when the kids came out and went
into the community again. And now we've got our yso
legislation coming through. We'll actually have a new cohort starting
up in the boot camps earlier in the new year,
(01:28):
and we hope to sort of perfect it. But at
the end of the day, I'm going to keep trying
these things because actually the message we've sent young people
is that youth offending is down sixteen percent, RAM raids
are down eighty five percent, and this is an important
element of it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So here's the reason I raised this one. It was
I read the summation of it and it seemed to
have the good and the bad and bits and pieces
in the world, and so that's what I would have
expected Radio New Zealand's headline was implementation of boot camp rushed.
Report concludes that that is not the conclusion though, is it.
It's mentioned, but it's not the conclusion.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
No, the conclusion is I think, you know, there were
some parts that worked well, some parts that need to
be improved, but it's an important element. And the bigger
point is that when did you last see serious youth
a fending down sixteen percent in this country?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Exactly? So my concern again is that this is a
state funded organization that is showing a level of bias
that I would be concerned about. Are you concerned about that?
Because if I saw the headline as a punter in
New Zealand, I go right, government waste of money.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yet again, Mike, if I got bent out of shap
every time I have a negative headline from the good.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Stuff the government, it's not a negative headline, it's a
false negative headline. And that's the key to it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's a question for people in media if you had
a media watch organization, would be a good discussion to
have with them. For me, I've got to get on
and actually get youth offending down.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, do you from summation of the report, though, is
there enough because the criticism was that you're spending quite
a lot on it bang for buck. Is there enough
good in there to justify? I think there is.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
One of the big takeaways was the community stuff and
the support we were able to give those kids when
they're in re residential was really fantastic. We'd like to
extend that residential, I suspect, but there are principles in
the way and that support that we give those kids
that we should build into the youth justice facilities permanently anyway,
and so that's where we've oftenly got to get to.
But it's one element, and what I'm proud about is
(03:16):
genuinely the fact that it's down sixteen percent, which is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The Cooks I wonder if Peter's is wrong. Peter's has
long argued friendship counts. I don't think it does, does
it well?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
The issue here is we're good with the Cook Islands.
People love them fantastic, but we're very frustrated with the
Cook Islands government.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Is the government or Brown?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's primose to Brown and his government. He represents that government.
I mean, we have an issue, which is that we
have a responsibility constitutionally for the defense and security of
the realm, which includes you know, the Cooks is one
of the realm countries. We provide budget money to them
on the basis of trust. Our trust has been broken.
We want that restored.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, but it's not going to be That's my point.
We all know, and I don't think anyone disputes the
Cooks are in the wrong here, but thirty million clearly
accounts for nothing. He couldn't give a monkeys.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, let's find out.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, well we are finding out.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, we've escalated it, and so we want those officials
working together to get those give us the mitigations that
we want and the trust are restored.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, was yesterday on the myth just a Sunday announcement
because I can't work out what the problem is. Myth
myths not new, The boy was not new. The problems
aren't new. I mean, why a shifted.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I mean one is you've had a doubling of meth consumption.
Maybe other drugs are down. Myths up because it's cheap,
but relative to the rest of the world, myth in
New Zealand is expensive. We're up against now big Mexican
drug cartels that are actually sending boat submarines into.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
The Pacific, but none that's new.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, well, it suddenly has changed a lot from what
I would understand what it was five years ago versus
where we sit today in the last two years, and
it needed a serious response. That's why I tasked those
ministers in March to say, look, we've got to do
something different. In addition to everything else that's going on,
there are some things that we can do differently about
getting working with our partners. I mean, if you talk
to the Prime Minister of Somemr as I did last week,
you know it was a new prime minister, very much
(04:55):
on his agenda. Tong is concerned, Fiji's concerned, Australia's concerned,
We're concer and so we've got to work together on that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
One of the things we've held off on doing until
we saw what happened in Australia. I'm assuming you're aware
of this, the under sixteen social media band, the tech
company's acquiesced. So will we go forward with that now?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yes, we will. We're going to go forward with that.
We'll have a version and put some legislation in place
before the election.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The local content subsidy are they acquiesced on last week
in Australia as well? So your Netflix is going to
pay ten percent of their income and they're going to
make local production. Can we do that here? Now? Is
something that Goldsmith will look at? Is he still looking
at He does a lot of looking that guy.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
He's done a good job on myth just on Sunday
he has Why are you so skipped.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
About the myth? Well, because it's not a new problem,
and it's like it's been going on for years. I'm
not saying it's not a serious problem. It's been going
on for years, and the problem is massive. And thirty
million dollars on a Sunday afternoon via press release doesn't
materially I mean what we should be asking is not
necessarily a faulty, but I mean we pay more in
(05:58):
this country for meth than any in the world. Yeah,
and the amounts doubled. Yeah, how stupid are we?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah? I mean, come on, well, the fact is that
our prices in New Zealand have fallen, but they're still
seven to fifteen times high and they are in North America.
And that's why it's attractive for those international crime organizations
to move into this part of the world, which we
haven't seen before.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
In the elegy. There's something about us though, doesn't it.
What's that in terms of New Zealand as a country. Well,
it may well do. But the point is that it's
a problem. It's impacting individuals, families and communities and we've
got to try something anyway. Any Way, back to Goldsmith
so the local subsidy. They also in Australia last week
announced a journalist fund as well. All I'm asking is
that was stuff we were waiting on to see if
it was going to work in Australia. Appears to be
(06:36):
going to work in Australia. So as a result, will
we now push forward on those three things?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I suspect here we wanted to progress those things.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yep, okay, good. Renny Ian says we are not going
to grow our way out of this. We need to
sell some stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You're talking about the report about asset sales from Terstry
last week.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Look, I mean I think well, first and for most
I've said we're not going to do asset sales as term.
We've got an election policy to develop for twenty six
I think your points are fair one, which is and
the reports a good challenge, which is Actually I think
we need to have quite a mature conversation about assets
in New Zealand. I think it's been a very simplistic
one of you either flog them off or you keep them.
But you and I don't have the same cars that
(07:14):
we had when we first started, and we don't keep
our assets forever. And actually, when you look at what
savior funds do or super funds do, they rotate assets
through a portfolio, you know we should be thinking about
whether that's the right thing for us to be doing too.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
How would we do that? Because in looking at the list,
I mean the roads, the hospitals, the national parks. That's
not real as far as I can work out, correct
me if I'm wrong, But he in New Zealanders Gen
Taylor's are kwei railers, kwei bankers, TV and Z. Although
it's not worth anything, is yeah? Is that where you look? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I mean, first and foremost, I don't think our government
agencies do a very good job of managing their assets
in general. In fact, we're the fourth worst and the
OECD and running an asset management fifty percent of our
most capital intentsive agencies haven't had asset management plans, which
means they don't even know what they own and where
the assets actually are. But if you look at something
(08:04):
like PAMU, which is a whole bunch of farmland that
the government owns and runs.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Why do we do that?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Because like for the next out to what twenty thirty one,
we're going to have high prices for protein and red meat.
We're pretty bad I imagined as a government run farm
relative to other farmers doing that job much better, And
that could give young farmers an opportunity to get into
some land. So then you'd say, the money that we
get out of that might be better spent building out
a road that actually ends up creating a whole bunch
of economic How.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
On that track do you go though? That's I mean,
Palm is probably your best example, But you go down
to Jim Taylor's the politics gets in play, doesn't it. Yeah,
there will be a.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Whole bunch of politics, But I think I'd like to
keep it a level up and have a principled conversation
because reckon, you can do that well.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I'd like to.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Try because I think you know, when you look at Tamasak,
which you know, Labor had a policy a couple of
weeks ago on what they call their Future Fund where
they said, we're going to put all these assets together
in a B and a bucket, but then they're not
going to rotate or recycle the assets. Well to mark success,
is it from nineteen seventy four, I think it was
to today They've cycled assets in and out of that
portfolio in much the same way as super Fund does
(09:06):
or key We say that, do you.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Agree with the I just don't want to get into
this clickbake discussion about who he's going to see l
assets because this is too important for this is really
broadly speaking correct though.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think it's a good challenge. I think there is
a lot that we can do around government efficiencies. For sure,
we've got a hell of a long way to go
still there. I think we can grow the economy quickly.
But I think this is a legitimate, good conversation for
us to have. But it needs to be more mature
than what we've had in the past, which is it
does become political really quickly. It becomes very emotive very quickly.
(09:38):
But there is genuine case for if you look at
the success stories of Singapore and other places, you know,
recycling assets so that actually the New Zealand taxpayer gets
money from assets that then is deployed to another asset
that actually creates value for them, that is more useful
for them. That's good. And as I said, it's like
I was thinking about it this morning. It's like no
different from you know, I used to have a nineteen
(09:58):
sixty two Riley off. I don't own it anymore, you know,
so you track, you know, you don't own your assets forever.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Good to see you. You're not seeing anything big this week?
Well you got anything? You're on the bubble this week
and you know this, don't you know this? Can I
just give you one small piece of advice and in
question time hardened up when they asked you last week
about that homeless thing. Yeah, I saw it was only
a review to make that moment, but I own it
and answer the question. Well, I have owned it because
(10:26):
I'm very afterwards at the time, you know. But the
question I was asked is am I banning homelessness? Passing
the laws and technically technical? So here's the question you
asked me. You know, I'm not we haven't passed a
law on that. We haven't discussed it, but i'll tell
you what we do. Downtown Auckland's bugget and time, Minister.
I'm going to clean it up and we're going to
start next week. Sit back down, hipkins, I'm in charge.
(10:48):
That's that's where you're going with that. Thank you for
the one. I won't take it all. Leave it for
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