Christopher Luxon says all options are on the table when it comes to increasing competition in the grocery sector.
He hopes that more overseas operators - like Walmart – will expand their operations to New Zealand.
The Prime Minister told Heather du Plessis-Allan Economic Growth Minister Nicola Willis is doing everything to establish new operators in the supermarket industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have Prime Minister Christopher lux in morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Chris, good morning. How are you head? Thank looking very
well for someone who's doing early mornings with two little kids.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're looking You're looking lovely in tanned. How was that holiday?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh, it's great. I had five days off and it
was just awesome to reintroduce myself to my wife and
say hello, and we've had lots of just reading and
just lazing around. It was just awesome pool and there
was a lot of sleep going on, yeah, which was
quite good days just catching up.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Did you read the paper this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
No, I have read the papers.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You didn't see the bit that Audrey Young has written
which has got the headline, what if the Prime minister
fell under a bus?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't plan on walking in front of anybody, but.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Grim isn't it come back from holiday and Audrey people.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Planning your demise before you've even sort of I know
I got close to it, and I think I've got
years ahead of me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Her piece is basically about who would take over who
do you read takeover if you fell under a bus?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Just not a consideration at this point, not a consideration.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You can't control the bus, Chris. If the buskets you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The buskets well, I won't. It won't matter because I
won't be here. Bus hits me.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So she's down to Nicola, Orbish or Erica or Simeon.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well again, what you've seen, I think most Zealands will
see is that I've put together an excellent teeth. I've
taken the National Party that was a bit dysfunctional at
one point a few years back. We've got it as
a highly home machine. We've got the right people in
the right places, on the right assignment. So you're proud
of all of my ministers.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Automatically, Nichola's number two, she should do it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Look, we're just we focused on getting on with the
job of turning New Zealand around here, as you well know.
And it's just not a consideration.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Do you do the thing that I do when I'm
on holiday, which is it gives me the chance to
step back and really percolate the issues that are bothering meat,
let them settle, and then I come back with a
real kind of drive to change something.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think that's exactly what happens for me as well.
I take two are chants and you come back in
and you go right we've got eighteen months to go.
We've got to make sure that we are really fixing
this economy because people are still feeling the pain of it.
After you've had three years of high inflation. People are
still pretty tough out there.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And so what did you come up with?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Just know, we've just got to focus on making sure
that everything we know driving through allians of growth.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
What are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well? We're doing what we are, which is making sure
we get that oil and gas band reverse this quarter.
That's really important for us because we've got to get
energy affordable.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's not bringing in any money because nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Knows, but making sure that we can keep it at
elutriacy prices low.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
For what are you doing, Chris, You've got you went
around holiday, you thought about it, you decided the economy
is the thing that needs fixing. And the big idea
that you came back is with this.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying just for me,
it's always good to get a bit of perspective to say. Yep. Actually,
eighteen months ago before the next selection and the New
Zealand people will make a decision as to which way
they want to go. What they've got to be reassured
about is that this progress being made on the economy,
that actually are we safer in law and order terms,
and are we getting better results in health and education? Okay,
so that's why just I come back and go, yeah,
I'm actually I'm really comfortable with the plan that we've got.
(02:42):
I think the plan is starting to work. We're dealing
with the biggest recession we've had since ninety ninety one.
We're turning the joint around. It's blooming hard work. Yeah,
we have to face into some tough decisions, but we're
doing that well. But we've got to focus on getting
results for people, and that just you just redouble that,
you get clarity about it, saying we'll actually everything's got
to be driving towards them.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The supermarkets. Do you like David Seymour's idea of fast
tracking a supermarket a third If a third entrant wants
to come into the country, you give them fast track
as many super wars as they went without having to
apply for each.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
To be honest, National loves fast track. I mean from
day one, Bishop and Joanes are the guys that have
put in place on planning laws and infrastructure and they
did it, they got going with it. It's fice to
say Nicola Willis is all over fast track and considering
it in the space around supermarkets, has been for some time.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So this may she may do this to help the
super I.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Don't want to get ahead of herself because she's got
a process that she's following and she's doing everything we
can to leave no stone unturned, you know, to make
sure that there is doing everything we can to get
a third operator in or to do everything to get
the settings right. Yea, And one of those things is
we're up fast track. I mean we love fast track.
I mean it was a national part of New Zealand.
First corruption you know that we put together from day
one to try and shock the system to actually get
(03:47):
things built of.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
This stuff, just say corruption, did you?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, a construction. Sorry it's very little sleep still here.
I'm still a little.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What are you going to do about the brain drain?
Because those numbers are we orring?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, Look I'm in just a bit of context. Go
back and look at the GFC. There was six years
there where the numbers were higher the last year of labor,
this our first year and twenty four same numbers. Really
It just underscores why do people go to Australia because
they think they can earn more income. We've got to
make sure they can earn more income and hire and
comes here.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In us list because it sucks here, right, it's because
in their opinion, it sucks here, but christ is.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But that's what that's my job, right, It's our job
is to make sure that if you're going to work hard,
you can get ahead. Yeah, if you actually can walk
the streets and feel safe in your community. Actually you
feel like the education system for your kids is going
to be get setting them up well, Actually, appearance they
any healthcare support, they can get access to it. So
that's why it's pretty boring. But those are the things
that we're very focused on.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Right. But it's eighteen months in right, so I feel
like at this stage what they are leaving for, they
are leaving because you haven't changed things yet.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, we're dealing with the biggest recession since we've had
since the early nineties. That's been clear about. It's been
worse than the GFC. As I said to you, you know,
we're doing making sure that inflanation's coming down and trust
rates are coming down. We're giving people tax relief. We've
got the economy growing. You would have seen in the
first quarter results that we grew the economy four times
faster than Australia and many a Western economies. Yep, it's tough. Yes,
(05:05):
it's hard. Yes, it's a grind as we get the
car out of the ditch and turned up the right
way and into first and second gear.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But apart from the slogans, what have you actually done?
I mean, apart from yeah, absolutely you gave the tax
concession and the budget.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well it's a fazz thing, right. If you really care
about people a lower middle income working New Zealanders, you
run the economy well, so you don't increase government spinning
eighty four percent that drives inflation to seven points.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
We haven't read increased it very much.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Have well we have. Actually we've actually saved twenty three
billion dollars last year twenty one billion this year and
reprioritized that spending into the frontline services and may being
able to invest more in health, more on education.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Again, yeah, you've spent it on something.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We've redestroyed it and reprioritize it. From the back office,
as we've said to the front line, and that's been
a good result. I mean, the things that we're doing
to get our kids back to school, to get them
to do maths and reading and the basics and education
well are great. We put a record investment into healthcare.
We've got more workforce being hired, more nurses, more doctors
being hired than we've ever had in this country. We've
got clarity on the on the results. We're starting to
(06:01):
see a little bit of improvement on those weightless times
for things like elect of surgeries. They went up. I mean,
we had a thousand people on the wait list when
we left government. We had twenty eight thousand when we
came back to government.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, so on using.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Private hospitals, I know that those we know.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The last lot stuffed it up. I'm just looking for
you guys to actually show us that you're fixing it.
On the road cones. What are you actually doing about
the road cones? What do we supporse? What can we
do here to get rid of these road codes?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, so Chris Biship's doing something, which is the pressures
on the counts. First of all, if you zoom out,
we spend seven hundred and fifty million dollars three quarters
of a billion dollars on traffic management through the NZTA.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
A lot the road except my counts it right, So
what do we actually need to do.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
What's going to happen is Chris Bishop will be linking
funding to councils based on a risk making sure they
take a risk based approach to road cone management. Because
what's happening is it's actually sitting with councils. That's where so.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
There is nothing that you can change about regulations or
least I watch the space.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Chris Bishop's working that up with some more to say
about that, and what is you'll have more to say
about it shortly do you know what it is? It is?
But basically what he's saying is we want to see
councils take what's called a risk based approach to management
of funds and he will link the funding that councils
get from central government to that task of making sure.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
How do you do how do you do that? How
can you possibly do that? So do you have somebody
who goes there and stands look you and says you
should have fifty cones here, but you've got five hundred,
so we're cutting you FUNDE.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, yeah, fund you're making assessment about how much money
is needed as part of a project that the central
government funds and partnership with local government.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
As I said, so they won't have enough money for
all of the road code.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, they'll make sure that he'll make sure that the
funding is provided on making sure that the councils have
implemented as we called a risk based approach. And we've
got sensible stuff going on around road cones, not dumb stuff. Okay,
you can drive around this country. You see road cones
up all up and down the country. We're all over it.
I'd just say NZTA. Already they've started to decrease the
spending that they've got on road cones already they as
I said, that's spending three quarters of a billion dollars
(07:51):
just from.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Central Let me understand this. So, are you decreasing how
much money they're allowed to have for the road cones
or are you saying if you have too many road cones,
we cut your funding.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We're going to make sure that they actually changed their
policies so that when they're putting road cones in place
for projects that councils are undertaking on local roads and
all that stuff where the problems often sit that they
actual if they haven't, they've got to make sure they've
got a risk based approach. They've actually got as minimal
road cones as they need to keep people safe, but
not inconvenience people, and CRESS will link funding to that.
That's all I'm going to say about that. That's the
(08:21):
mechanism that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Is wins this appracement coming.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It'll be within the next month or so.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Okay, is it an MCTA problem, they're the ones writing
the rules.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, no, there's two bits to it. The government does
obviously maintenance of state highways, okay, and then local councils
do maintenance of local roads. As I said that we
had no visibility over how much central government was spending
on road codes. We found out at seven hundred and
fifty million dollars. They've already MCTA have started to build
the risk management stuff into what they're doing. That cost
(08:48):
is coming down, which is a good thing. And we've
got to make sure that councils when they actually fund
the private roads, they're public roads, local roads, actually they're
doing the same thing. And that's why we'll link the
funding to that approach to managing.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Com Do you are you rooting for Labor in the
by election?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Oh? Look, I mean god knows, because I mean the
question is whether are they going to have a fear
fight or is going to be a pillow fight because
you know, I felt sorry for Peenie Henor a last
time because frankly, Chris Heptins didn't challenge that close results
and sort of hung them out to dry. Let's be
clear whether it's to Party Marty or Labor. Frankly, they've
got the same crazy policies, you know, which is being
more body at least respects crime.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
At least one of the respects of the rules around.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Health and education outcomes, you know, like that, it's the
same thing. And they want to be they want to
be in government with these guys. They want to Labor
wants to be a power to Party May So, I mean,
it's that's going to be fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Do you not agree though? At least Labor respects the
rules and the media doesn't give them.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
A labor economic vandals and mismanagers on an extraordinary scale,
soft on crime and more healthy education.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Now you got to your lines out, all right? Hey,
thank you very much. Christ's loving to have you back.
Good to see you, Chris Lacks and Prime Minister. For
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We have Prime Minister Christopher lux in morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Chris, good morning. How are you head? Thank looking very
well for someone who's doing early mornings with two little kids.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're looking You're looking lovely in tanned. How was that holiday?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh, it's great. I had five days off and it
was just awesome to reintroduce myself to my wife and
say hello, and we've had lots of just reading and
just lazing around. It was just awesome pool and there
was a lot of sleep going on, yeah, which was
quite good days just catching up.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Did you read the paper this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
No, I have read the papers.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
You didn't see the bit that Audrey Young has written
which has got the headline, what if the Prime minister
fell under a bus?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't plan on walking in front of anybody, but.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Grim isn't it come back from holiday and Audrey people.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Planning your demise before you've even sort of I know
I got close to it, and I think I've got
years ahead of me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Her piece is basically about who would take over who
do you read takeover if you fell under a bus?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Just not a consideration at this point, not a consideration.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You can't control the bus, Chris. If the buskets you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The buskets well, I won't. It won't matter because I
won't be here. Bus hits me.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So she's down to Nicola, Orbish or Erica or Simeon.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well again, what you've seen, I think most Zealands will
see is that I've put together an excellent teeth. I've
taken the National Party that was a bit dysfunctional at
one point a few years back. We've got it as
a highly home machine. We've got the right people in
the right places, on the right assignment. So you're proud
of all of my ministers.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Automatically, Nichola's number two, she should do it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Look, we're just we focused on getting on with the
job of turning New Zealand around here, as you well know.
And it's just not a consideration.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Do you do the thing that I do when I'm
on holiday, which is it gives me the chance to
step back and really percolate the issues that are bothering meat,
let them settle, and then I come back with a
real kind of drive to change something.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think that's exactly what happens for me as well.
I take two are chants and you come back in
and you go right we've got eighteen months to go.
We've got to make sure that we are really fixing
this economy because people are still feeling the pain of it.
After you've had three years of high inflation. People are
still pretty tough out there.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And so what did you come up with?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Just know, we've just got to focus on making sure
that everything we know driving through allians of growth.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
What are you going to do?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well? We're doing what we are, which is making sure
we get that oil and gas band reverse this quarter.
That's really important for us because we've got to get
energy affordable.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's not bringing in any money because nobody.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Knows, but making sure that we can keep it at
elutriacy prices low.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
For what are you doing, Chris, You've got you went
around holiday, you thought about it, you decided the economy
is the thing that needs fixing. And the big idea
that you came back is with this.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying just for me,
it's always good to get a bit of perspective to say. Yep. Actually,
eighteen months ago before the next selection and the New
Zealand people will make a decision as to which way
they want to go. What they've got to be reassured
about is that this progress being made on the economy,
that actually are we safer in law and order terms,
and are we getting better results in health and education? Okay,
so that's why just I come back and go, yeah,
I'm actually I'm really comfortable with the plan that we've got.
(02:42):
I think the plan is starting to work. We're dealing
with the biggest recession we've had since ninety ninety one.
We're turning the joint around. It's blooming hard work. Yeah,
we have to face into some tough decisions, but we're
doing that well. But we've got to focus on getting
results for people, and that just you just redouble that,
you get clarity about it, saying we'll actually everything's got
to be driving towards them.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The supermarkets. Do you like David Seymour's idea of fast
tracking a supermarket a third If a third entrant wants
to come into the country, you give them fast track
as many super wars as they went without having to
apply for each.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
To be honest, National loves fast track. I mean from
day one, Bishop and Joanes are the guys that have
put in place on planning laws and infrastructure and they
did it, they got going with it. It's fice to
say Nicola Willis is all over fast track and considering
it in the space around supermarkets, has been for some time.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So this may she may do this to help the
super I.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Don't want to get ahead of herself because she's got
a process that she's following and she's doing everything we
can to leave no stone unturned, you know, to make
sure that there is doing everything we can to get
a third operator in or to do everything to get
the settings right. Yea, And one of those things is
we're up fast track. I mean we love fast track.
I mean it was a national part of New Zealand.
First corruption you know that we put together from day
one to try and shock the system to actually get
(03:47):
things built of.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
This stuff, just say corruption, did you?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, a construction. Sorry it's very little sleep still here.
I'm still a little.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
What are you going to do about the brain drain?
Because those numbers are we orring?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, Look I'm in just a bit of context. Go
back and look at the GFC. There was six years
there where the numbers were higher the last year of labor,
this our first year and twenty four same numbers. Really
It just underscores why do people go to Australia because
they think they can earn more income. We've got to
make sure they can earn more income and hire and
comes here.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In us list because it sucks here, right, it's because
in their opinion, it sucks here, but christ is.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But that's what that's my job, right, It's our job
is to make sure that if you're going to work hard,
you can get ahead. Yeah, if you actually can walk
the streets and feel safe in your community. Actually you
feel like the education system for your kids is going
to be get setting them up well, Actually, appearance they
any healthcare support, they can get access to it. So
that's why it's pretty boring. But those are the things
that we're very focused on.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Right. But it's eighteen months in right, so I feel
like at this stage what they are leaving for, they
are leaving because you haven't changed things yet.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, we're dealing with the biggest recession since we've had
since the early nineties. That's been clear about. It's been
worse than the GFC. As I said to you, you know,
we're doing making sure that inflanation's coming down and trust
rates are coming down. We're giving people tax relief. We've
got the economy growing. You would have seen in the
first quarter results that we grew the economy four times
faster than Australia and many a Western economies. Yep, it's tough. Yes,
(05:05):
it's hard. Yes, it's a grind as we get the
car out of the ditch and turned up the right
way and into first and second gear.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But apart from the slogans, what have you actually done?
I mean, apart from yeah, absolutely you gave the tax
concession and the budget.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well it's a fazz thing, right. If you really care
about people a lower middle income working New Zealanders, you
run the economy well, so you don't increase government spinning
eighty four percent that drives inflation to seven points.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
We haven't read increased it very much.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Have well we have. Actually we've actually saved twenty three
billion dollars last year twenty one billion this year and
reprioritized that spending into the frontline services and may being
able to invest more in health, more on education.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Again, yeah, you've spent it on something.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
We've redestroyed it and reprioritize it. From the back office,
as we've said to the front line, and that's been
a good result. I mean, the things that we're doing
to get our kids back to school, to get them
to do maths and reading and the basics and education
well are great. We put a record investment into healthcare.
We've got more workforce being hired, more nurses, more doctors
being hired than we've ever had in this country. We've
got clarity on the on the results. We're starting to
(06:01):
see a little bit of improvement on those weightless times
for things like elect of surgeries. They went up. I mean,
we had a thousand people on the wait list when
we left government. We had twenty eight thousand when we
came back to government.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, so on using.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Private hospitals, I know that those we know.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The last lot stuffed it up. I'm just looking for
you guys to actually show us that you're fixing it.
On the road cones. What are you actually doing about
the road cones? What do we supporse? What can we
do here to get rid of these road codes?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, so Chris Biship's doing something, which is the pressures
on the counts. First of all, if you zoom out,
we spend seven hundred and fifty million dollars three quarters
of a billion dollars on traffic management through the NZTA.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
A lot the road except my counts it right, So
what do we actually need to do.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
What's going to happen is Chris Bishop will be linking
funding to councils based on a risk making sure they
take a risk based approach to road cone management. Because
what's happening is it's actually sitting with councils. That's where so.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
There is nothing that you can change about regulations or
least I watch the space.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Chris Bishop's working that up with some more to say
about that, and what is you'll have more to say
about it shortly do you know what it is? It is?
But basically what he's saying is we want to see
councils take what's called a risk based approach to management
of funds and he will link the funding that councils
get from central government to that task of making sure.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
How do you do how do you do that? How
can you possibly do that? So do you have somebody
who goes there and stands look you and says you
should have fifty cones here, but you've got five hundred,
so we're cutting you FUNDE.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, yeah, fund you're making assessment about how much money
is needed as part of a project that the central
government funds and partnership with local government.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
As I said, so they won't have enough money for
all of the road code.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, they'll make sure that he'll make sure that the
funding is provided on making sure that the councils have
implemented as we called a risk based approach. And we've
got sensible stuff going on around road cones, not dumb stuff. Okay,
you can drive around this country. You see road cones
up all up and down the country. We're all over it.
I'd just say NZTA. Already they've started to decrease the
spending that they've got on road cones already they as
I said, that's spending three quarters of a billion dollars
(07:51):
just from.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Central Let me understand this. So, are you decreasing how
much money they're allowed to have for the road cones
or are you saying if you have too many road cones,
we cut your funding.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We're going to make sure that they actually changed their
policies so that when they're putting road cones in place
for projects that councils are undertaking on local roads and
all that stuff where the problems often sit that they
actual if they haven't, they've got to make sure they've
got a risk based approach. They've actually got as minimal
road cones as they need to keep people safe, but
not inconvenience people, and CRESS will link funding to that.
That's all I'm going to say about that. That's the
(08:21):
mechanism that.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Is wins this appracement coming.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It'll be within the next month or so.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Okay, is it an MCTA problem, they're the ones writing
the rules.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, no, there's two bits to it. The government does
obviously maintenance of state highways, okay, and then local councils
do maintenance of local roads. As I said that we
had no visibility over how much central government was spending
on road codes. We found out at seven hundred and
fifty million dollars. They've already MCTA have started to build
the risk management stuff into what they're doing. That cost
(08:48):
is coming down, which is a good thing. And we've
got to make sure that councils when they actually fund
the private roads, they're public roads, local roads, actually they're
doing the same thing. And that's why we'll link the
funding to that approach to managing.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Com Do you are you rooting for Labor in the
by election?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Oh? Look, I mean god knows, because I mean the
question is whether are they going to have a fear
fight or is going to be a pillow fight because
you know, I felt sorry for Peenie Henor a last
time because frankly, Chris Heptins didn't challenge that close results
and sort of hung them out to dry. Let's be
clear whether it's to Party Marty or Labor. Frankly, they've
got the same crazy policies, you know, which is being
more body at least respects crime.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
At least one of the respects of the rules around.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Health and education outcomes, you know, like that, it's the
same thing. And they want to be they want to
be in government with these guys. They want to Labor
wants to be a power to Party May So, I mean,
it's that's going to be fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Do you not agree though? At least Labor respects the
rules and the media doesn't give them.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
A labor economic vandals and mismanagers on an extraordinary scale,
soft on crime and more healthy education.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Now you got to your lines out, all right? Hey,
thank you very much. Christ's loving to have you back.
Good to see you, Chris Lacks and Prime Minister. For
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