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July 3, 2025 4 mins

The first All Blacks test of 2025 is upon us. 

Saturday night will see a new team tackle an understrength French side in Dunedin’s Forsyth Barr Stadium. 

There were plenty of surprises in the team announcement, with four debutants in the 23 and some unexpected faces in the reserve line up. 

Codie Taylor is playing hooker, and told Mike Hosking that although the French side is understrength, they have to respect and acknowledge their opposition. 

However, he said, their main focus is on making sure they get things right, since this is their first crack playing as a team. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our first All Blacks tests the year tomorrow night under
the roof of course in Donedan. It's the French, but
not the best of French. Cody Taylor's going to be
starting at hooker and he's with us. Good morning, Good
morning mate. Let me start with this, Cody, what's the
difference between coming, say, off the back of the Crusaders
and winning to the All Blacks and winning versus say,
coming from a super team that's lost to the All

(00:21):
Blacks and maybe winning Jesus.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
It's a tough question, I think. Obviously, a couple of
weeks ago finished on a high with the Super season,
which is awesome, you know, as a hard playoff sort
of campaign and managed to get the job done, which
is awesome to be part of again. But it's personally
I can only speak about myself, but really excited to

(00:46):
be back in this environment. The coaches have been awesome
last week around making sure we get all the content
we need to funt up for this test.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
And how different is the approach just in terms of
what's talked about and how the training goes from you know,
the gap between Super intest rugby uh I, just.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
The intensity of trainings meetings. You know, everything is there's
a lot more on the line. It's test footy, it's
international stuff. But the coaches are really well planned and
they've given us exactly what we need to make sure
we get the job done in the Black Jersey. But yeah,

(01:25):
there's just a lift of intensity and obviously the caliber
of players. You know, you've got the best in the
country all training together, which one lifts you up and
and also makes it a lot a lot harder in
the trainings.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
And do guys like you have the advantage? I mean
someone like Razor, is he the same as an all
Black coach as he was with the Crusaders.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I suppose you sort of know how how he works,
which helps. But yeah, you like the him and Scottie
Henson and Jase had them all for a week while now,
so I sort of know how they work. But themselves
have really have really stepped it up in this environment
as well, and you can tell that they want to
be better just the way they coach in this environment.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
And what about the body? How's that going? A lot
of rugby so far, You're in form obviously, So so
how are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I actually feel really good? Yeah, so your campaign was
a little bit tough of what I had a few niggles,
but personally feeling good now to get back into it.
You know, like I said, this, it's a list when
you get into this environment, but it's a it's an
exciting one to be a part of.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
And what has been said this week around expectation, first test,
the season, the French aren't what they might be, all
that sort of stuff. What's been talked about, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
We've talked around the French. A lot of the language
we've used has been more around like what we want
to do and what we want to achieve. I have
to respect and acknowledged acknowledge your position. You know, we
haven't been in France for a few years since twenty eighteen,
so that itself is a room driver. Focus has sort

(03:00):
of been on us and making sure we get our
stuff right, because like you said, it's our first crack together.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
And what about the announcement with some of the new guys.
As a senior leader in the side, is it your
job to sidle up beside them and you know, give
them a word on how to handle it.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I think that sort of comes next actually throughout the week,
you know, they're all great young men. And you know,
I sort of knows Christian Leole with the Crusaders and
he had a great campaign deserves to be here. And
then Fabian and Dupes were in the environment last year
and they were awesome last year, and you can tell
that they're really ready to get stuck in. And then

(03:38):
as the young Frank Row who's got a lot of questions,
which is great. You know, that's what you want from
the boys coming in. You want them offering.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I've got the All Blacks by thirteen or more? Am
I wrong?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I hope you're not wrong. I think we can get
stuck in. But at the same time, as a French team,
you know, they're a different beast. They played definitely what
we're used to of late, but it's going to be tough.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, all right, mape go. Welcome Cody Taylor out to
the All Blacks this morning. For more from the Mic
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