October 20, 2024 • 11 mins
Andrew Saville and Guy Heveldt joined Mike Hosking to discuss the America’s Cup, Auckland FC’s maiden victory over the Brisbane Roar, the Everest, Chris Hoy’s cancer announcement, the White Ferns winning the T20 Women’s World Cup, the Black Caps’ win in India and the NPC semifinals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andrew Selbral with us along with Guy have helped fellas.
Good morning, good morning morning. How exciting is the F
one four already he's thirteenth and Lewis Hamilton's got he's
crashed so we're yellow, we got safety car. It's it's
(00:22):
too good, it's too good. So it's a bit, it's
a big, big Where do you want to start, Andrew?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Did you like I watched a bit of the football.
I don't think I've ever seen a week ind like this,
coming out of no where to win the White Ferns
on the back of that dreadful run into the World Cup.
You had the black Cats winning in India, what first
time in forty years and silver Ferns been in Australia
last night after being beaten by England and that previous
series remarkable.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
This morning, the cycle we've.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Got, you're looked and winning what a couple of world
championship titles at the track site.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
There was and we got the America's Cup so that
was good and it's just mean you got to you
got to address I think Guy, the America's Cup at
the end of the day, I mean whether we like
it or not to follow it or not whether it
should be here or not, blah blah blah. The fact
is we want the America's Cup and we're you know,
we're brilliant at the America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And that's good and one comfortably as well. Look, I've
made my thoughts on the racing side of things pretty
clear over the last few weeks. What I will say though,
is that I thought Peter among Montgomery made a couple
of pertinent points with Ryan Bridge earlier on this morning
around you know that there's so much more to this
than just the racing that goes into it. There's the
boat building side of things. And if you look at
(01:34):
place like Southern Spars, which has now become a global
kind of manufacturer when it comes or constructive when it
comes to boat building and that sort of thing, it's
massive for them. And then also on top of that,
you've got to remember that the syndicates like Luna Rossa
and Anios Britannia have, if one, teams behind them in
(01:54):
terms of how they developed their car and how they
developed their boats, and and so for Team Zealand to
go and absolutely blitz well Britannia particularly, but the whole
regata as a whole. Yeah, I think it's quite a
significant achievement.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If we were an entrepreneurial country, Andrew, we would invest
in it the way we used to. We don't seem
to want to any more. We're too broke with too.
I mean, look at look at that footbridge.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, why you look? Will it come back here? Probably not?
And I can sort of still understand that to a
degree because they need the money. They need the money
to defend properly against these richer teams. But how much
money do you need? And the fact that the America's
Cup is safely locked away at the yacht squadron again
for another few years, that that gives you home advantage,
(02:38):
and home advantage should be home advantage should be sailed
at home. And yes, Oracle sailed in Bermuda, and years
ago a ling he sailed in Valencia. But this is different.
New Zealand's a seafaring country. We've got great facilities already
set up here from the last America's Cup and also
great sailing conditions on the Gulf or wherever. And here, look,
(03:00):
the figure that's been bandied around to me is about
one hundred mil Mark Dumfy, the businessman who had forty
to fifty mil ready to go last time. My understanding
is he had that same amount of money ready to
go now, just needs the government and Aucland Council to
get on board as well.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, but that's the dysfunction, that's the problem, isn't it.
At the end of the day, That's right.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You go ahead that Polina's want to be seen to
be forking out forty to fifty mil while the rest
of country's on its knees to it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Agree exactly, guy. The football. I ended up watching a
little bit of the Auckland FC game and just a
smidge of the Phoenix. Is there a crowd thing brewing?
I mean, Auckland had a brilliant crowd. Phoenix didn't. So
what do we make of that? I mean, what does
that tell us about football generally, the interest in the
sides generally? I mean, I thought Auckland looked all right.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I thought it looked great. I didn't see it live,
but I did watch the highlights and look. I think
part of it is, obviously it's a new franchise. People
probably want to go and see what it's like. I
think it's significant in that regard that they go and
then win, because a lot of those people are likely
to turn up again to have another crack. The atmosphere
looked good in terms of the Phoenix. Look, they've been
(04:05):
around a little bit longer, and I suspect there's the
season goes on. If the Phoenix play well, those crowds
will build. I think your crowd numbers generally fluctuate quite
a lot throughout the season, so I wouldn't read too
much into it, and saying that seven thousand isn't great,
I suspect I'd want quite a few more than that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Exactly. Lawson's just overtaken Stroll. He's now twelfth, so he
starts at the back of the field. He's already twelts
into the field an odor on eight in eights at
the moment. I mean, these are remarkable things. This is
what they'll be Andrew. This is what they'll be marking
him against. Where does he end up against Perez? Where
did he start in the field, Where does he end
the race in the field?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think it's been I mean, if he finishes, say
top ten or ten or level top ten, this will
be a miracle. If he keeps his nose clean and
the rest of the race doesn't wrap it around the
lamp post, which I don't think he will. Now the
weekend has been quite remarkable for him because he's come in.
He hasn't driven that he said, I think one or
two tests and that car. In the last twelve months
(05:01):
since racing at last he's come and he set that
blistering time and qualifying yesterday, he's proved to everybody that
he belongs definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the point that
it was I don't know how widely it was made,
but the point in Q one yesterday he set the
third fastest time, which is like, you can't overstate the
importance of that. And the fact that the fact he
didn't qualify in Q two and three was for you know,
reasons that he was at the back of the field.
They didn't want to burn tires and stuff like that.
(05:29):
So he's a good driver and he can drive fast,
and if he out drives the car, that's the key
to all of this. If he out drives the car,
outperforms to Noda, possibly outperforms Periz, that's that's when you
start to get to the pointy end.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Of it all and you're checking a couple of yellow
flags in this race has been a couple ready safety cars.
Then that bunch is the field that gives them more
chance to pass.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Exactly. Do you enjoy the weekend racing guy, with you know,
all the flash racing across the way?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, there was absolutely some brilliant racing. The everest the top.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Mate, you told me to put my house on. I
wish I win and it got stone cold motherless.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Last if you had watched on Saturday, and I said, bella,
if you had to watch on Wednesday as well? On
the Ever Show see Lain and Fatina. Look, the top
eight horses were separated by less than two.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Do you do you when Andrew asks you, guy, do
you say weird stuff to put him off the scent?
Is that what you're saying? You save your good material
for on air and then when he on thet you
just tell me right.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm sorry I missed your preview shows, but I didn't
have time to get down to the Workingmen's Club during
the week.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The jockey of the Corefield Cup. The jockey of the
Corfield Cup, Harry Coffee, the winner of that on Duke
Decessar was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis when he was six
weeks old and has just lived his life with it
ever since. Obviously, medicine has helped the advancements of medicine,
but is now Corfield Cup winning jockey. That's a pretty
bloody cool story.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Speaking of sad news, Chris Hoy and his announcement overnight
that his carriage terminal. Would you, I mean, what do
you do when you're an athlete. You're healthy, you're well,
you're at the peak of your performance. It's not like
you've sat there drinking beer, you know, smoking drugs, ruin it.
You know, it's like, it's unfair.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's what it is, totally totally unfair. What about the
cricket guy?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
This is we should touch on that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Absolutely staggering given the form of those two teams heating
into the weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, I can't remember if it was on the show
or not, but I recall last week saying something, Hell.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You said that, yeah, well, so are you a good at.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Sport at all?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I mean, when you give Andrew the tips on the
horses and Usk the tips on the cricket, do you
actually know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
We'll start with the white ferns for starters. They went
into that tournament on a teen match losing streak. They
had been outclassed consistently leading into that tournament. And Sophie
Devine and at the time I thought, what is she
on about? She kept on saying that she was so
confident the theme, so positive about that what they were doing.
I think for so long they've relied too long on
(08:01):
the likes of Sophie Divine and Susie Bates and probably
Amelia Occur, and they did need them in this tournament.
Absolutely all three of those players stepped up. But then
you look at other players like Brook Callida, Eden Carson,
probably Georgia Plimmer as well. There have been I suppose
the next crop who have stood up in this tournament
that the White fans have needed for some time. I'm
delighted for them, particularly players like Sophie Divine and Susie
(08:24):
Bates as well in the media Occur, who have tried
so long to win a tournament like this, and they
won it in pretty convincing fashion. Yes they lost to Australia,
but they thrashed India and they convincingly won this final.
And then you throw the black cat.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think the fact that the England and the Aussie
wound in the knockout stages or the latter stages helped them.
But you play what's in front of you, right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Of course, you know exactly right right, Quickie Andrew, I've
got numbers eleven percent increase in NPC crowd figures, twelve
percent increase in broadcast numbers. So that's encouraging and Wellington
to Bay Bay have plenty. That sort of gives it
that it's not the same old, same old every year
vibe that the.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, it's made it and it's made it interesting. I
don't know where the eleven percent came from, because I
thought the crowd in Wellington the Saturday night was dire,
hopefully more tune up for the final on Saturday afternoon,
But no, it's it's the the fact that it's not
Cannoby an Auckland and Data Da Da Day, I think
has added added some good interests Bay a plenty. I
mean that they haven't won it for fifty years, so
(09:20):
that that'll that'll that'll be good next Saturday afternoon. But
just back to the cricket, Quickie to black Caps, that
was I mean, for a team to go into a
game like that in India out of form a new captain,
a lot of a lot of a fair amount of
turmoil and to win Williamson to win it. And when
that came Willimson to win a match here against India year,
(09:42):
that's that's that's good in itself. But in India I
thought it was.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Just well, I mean, did take nothing away from It's great,
But does it not just tell you about the sort
of the crapshoot nature of cricket, I mean on the day.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, I don't know. It's not over there.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You can't put it down to the toss alone.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well, they won toss and you won the toss and
chose to beat and you don't involved them out for
forty six.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Quick word, either of you guys seen any ratings for
the America's Cup. We rang them the other day and
they haven't supplied them yet, which always indicates to me
they're not keen to give them. Did anybody watch the
America's Cup here as an exercise or we don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't know, don't know. Look, if it was held here,
of course they would have been the roof, right And
if it was in the time zone being here, yes,
of course it would have rated through the roof again.
Like I mentioned last week, I looked at the YouTube
figures this morning, and I think the last race on Saturday,
oh yesterday rather garn at about three hundred thousand global
(10:43):
views on YouTube, which is not huge, right, but there's
people watching on other platforms as well, at the America's
Cup website, so let's take that into consideration. But I
don't think there was massive interest in it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Interesting. All right, mate, you go well and we'll catch
up next week. Andrew Cevi will go have elt every
Monday morning on The mic Asking Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
Andrew Selbral with us along with Guy have helped fellas.
Good morning, good morning morning. How exciting is the F
one four already he's thirteenth and Lewis Hamilton's got he's
crashed so we're yellow, we got safety car. It's it's
(00:22):
too good, it's too good. So it's a bit, it's
a big, big Where do you want to start, Andrew?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Did you like I watched a bit of the football.
I don't think I've ever seen a week ind like this,
coming out of no where to win the White Ferns
on the back of that dreadful run into the World Cup.
You had the black Cats winning in India, what first
time in forty years and silver Ferns been in Australia
last night after being beaten by England and that previous
series remarkable.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
This morning, the cycle we've.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Got, you're looked and winning what a couple of world
championship titles at the track site.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
There was and we got the America's Cup so that
was good and it's just mean you got to you
got to address I think Guy, the America's Cup at
the end of the day, I mean whether we like
it or not to follow it or not whether it
should be here or not, blah blah blah. The fact
is we want the America's Cup and we're you know,
we're brilliant at the America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And that's good and one comfortably as well. Look, I've
made my thoughts on the racing side of things pretty
clear over the last few weeks. What I will say though,
is that I thought Peter among Montgomery made a couple
of pertinent points with Ryan Bridge earlier on this morning
around you know that there's so much more to this
than just the racing that goes into it. There's the
boat building side of things. And if you look at
(01:34):
place like Southern Spars, which has now become a global
kind of manufacturer when it comes or constructive when it
comes to boat building and that sort of thing, it's
massive for them. And then also on top of that,
you've got to remember that the syndicates like Luna Rossa
and Anios Britannia have, if one, teams behind them in
(01:54):
terms of how they developed their car and how they
developed their boats, and and so for Team Zealand to
go and absolutely blitz well Britannia particularly, but the whole
regata as a whole. Yeah, I think it's quite a
significant achievement.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If we were an entrepreneurial country, Andrew, we would invest
in it the way we used to. We don't seem
to want to any more. We're too broke with too.
I mean, look at look at that footbridge.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, why you look? Will it come back here? Probably not?
And I can sort of still understand that to a
degree because they need the money. They need the money
to defend properly against these richer teams. But how much
money do you need? And the fact that the America's
Cup is safely locked away at the yacht squadron again
for another few years, that that gives you home advantage,
(02:38):
and home advantage should be home advantage should be sailed
at home. And yes, Oracle sailed in Bermuda, and years
ago a ling he sailed in Valencia. But this is different.
New Zealand's a seafaring country. We've got great facilities already
set up here from the last America's Cup and also
great sailing conditions on the Gulf or wherever. And here, look,
(03:00):
the figure that's been bandied around to me is about
one hundred mil Mark Dumfy, the businessman who had forty
to fifty mil ready to go last time. My understanding
is he had that same amount of money ready to
go now, just needs the government and Aucland Council to
get on board as well.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, but that's the dysfunction, that's the problem, isn't it.
At the end of the day, That's right.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You go ahead that Polina's want to be seen to
be forking out forty to fifty mil while the rest
of country's on its knees to it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Agree exactly, guy. The football. I ended up watching a
little bit of the Auckland FC game and just a
smidge of the Phoenix. Is there a crowd thing brewing?
I mean, Auckland had a brilliant crowd. Phoenix didn't. So
what do we make of that? I mean, what does
that tell us about football generally, the interest in the
sides generally? I mean, I thought Auckland looked all right.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I thought it looked great. I didn't see it live,
but I did watch the highlights and look. I think
part of it is, obviously it's a new franchise. People
probably want to go and see what it's like. I
think it's significant in that regard that they go and
then win, because a lot of those people are likely
to turn up again to have another crack. The atmosphere
looked good in terms of the Phoenix. Look, they've been
(04:05):
around a little bit longer, and I suspect there's the
season goes on. If the Phoenix play well, those crowds
will build. I think your crowd numbers generally fluctuate quite
a lot throughout the season, so I wouldn't read too
much into it, and saying that seven thousand isn't great,
I suspect I'd want quite a few more than that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Exactly. Lawson's just overtaken Stroll. He's now twelfth, so he
starts at the back of the field. He's already twelts
into the field an odor on eight in eights at
the moment. I mean, these are remarkable things. This is
what they'll be Andrew. This is what they'll be marking
him against. Where does he end up against Perez? Where
did he start in the field, Where does he end
the race in the field?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think it's been I mean, if he finishes, say
top ten or ten or level top ten, this will
be a miracle. If he keeps his nose clean and
the rest of the race doesn't wrap it around the
lamp post, which I don't think he will. Now the
weekend has been quite remarkable for him because he's come in.
He hasn't driven that he said, I think one or
two tests and that car. In the last twelve months
(05:01):
since racing at last he's come and he set that
blistering time and qualifying yesterday, he's proved to everybody that
he belongs definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the point that
it was I don't know how widely it was made,
but the point in Q one yesterday he set the
third fastest time, which is like, you can't overstate the
importance of that. And the fact that the fact he
didn't qualify in Q two and three was for you know,
reasons that he was at the back of the field.
They didn't want to burn tires and stuff like that.
(05:29):
So he's a good driver and he can drive fast,
and if he out drives the car, that's the key
to all of this. If he out drives the car,
outperforms to Noda, possibly outperforms Periz, that's that's when you
start to get to the pointy end.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Of it all and you're checking a couple of yellow
flags in this race has been a couple ready safety cars.
Then that bunch is the field that gives them more
chance to pass.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Exactly. Do you enjoy the weekend racing guy, with you know,
all the flash racing across the way?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, there was absolutely some brilliant racing. The everest the top.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Mate, you told me to put my house on. I
wish I win and it got stone cold motherless.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Last if you had watched on Saturday, and I said, bella,
if you had to watch on Wednesday as well? On
the Ever Show see Lain and Fatina. Look, the top
eight horses were separated by less than two.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Do you do you when Andrew asks you, guy, do
you say weird stuff to put him off the scent?
Is that what you're saying? You save your good material
for on air and then when he on thet you
just tell me right.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm sorry I missed your preview shows, but I didn't
have time to get down to the Workingmen's Club during
the week.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The jockey of the Corefield Cup. The jockey of the
Corfield Cup, Harry Coffee, the winner of that on Duke
Decessar was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis when he was six
weeks old and has just lived his life with it
ever since. Obviously, medicine has helped the advancements of medicine,
but is now Corfield Cup winning jockey. That's a pretty
bloody cool story.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Speaking of sad news, Chris Hoy and his announcement overnight
that his carriage terminal. Would you, I mean, what do
you do when you're an athlete. You're healthy, you're well,
you're at the peak of your performance. It's not like
you've sat there drinking beer, you know, smoking drugs, ruin it.
You know, it's like, it's unfair.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
It's what it is, totally totally unfair. What about the
cricket guy?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
This is we should touch on that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Absolutely staggering given the form of those two teams heating
into the weekend.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, I can't remember if it was on the show
or not, but I recall last week saying something, Hell.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You said that, yeah, well, so are you a good at.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Sport at all?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I mean, when you give Andrew the tips on the
horses and Usk the tips on the cricket, do you
actually know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
We'll start with the white ferns for starters. They went
into that tournament on a teen match losing streak. They
had been outclassed consistently leading into that tournament. And Sophie
Devine and at the time I thought, what is she
on about? She kept on saying that she was so
confident the theme, so positive about that what they were doing.
I think for so long they've relied too long on
(08:01):
the likes of Sophie Divine and Susie Bates and probably
Amelia Occur, and they did need them in this tournament.
Absolutely all three of those players stepped up. But then
you look at other players like Brook Callida, Eden Carson,
probably Georgia Plimmer as well. There have been I suppose
the next crop who have stood up in this tournament
that the White fans have needed for some time. I'm
delighted for them, particularly players like Sophie Divine and Susie
(08:24):
Bates as well in the media Occur, who have tried
so long to win a tournament like this, and they
won it in pretty convincing fashion. Yes they lost to Australia,
but they thrashed India and they convincingly won this final.
And then you throw the black cat.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think the fact that the England and the Aussie
wound in the knockout stages or the latter stages helped them.
But you play what's in front of you, right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Of course, you know exactly right right, Quickie Andrew, I've
got numbers eleven percent increase in NPC crowd figures, twelve
percent increase in broadcast numbers. So that's encouraging and Wellington
to Bay Bay have plenty. That sort of gives it
that it's not the same old, same old every year
vibe that the.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, it's made it and it's made it interesting. I
don't know where the eleven percent came from, because I
thought the crowd in Wellington the Saturday night was dire,
hopefully more tune up for the final on Saturday afternoon,
But no, it's it's the the fact that it's not
Cannoby an Auckland and Data Da Da Day, I think
has added added some good interests Bay a plenty. I
mean that they haven't won it for fifty years, so
(09:20):
that that'll that'll that'll be good next Saturday afternoon. But
just back to the cricket, Quickie to black Caps, that
was I mean, for a team to go into a
game like that in India out of form a new captain,
a lot of a lot of a fair amount of
turmoil and to win Williamson to win it. And when
that came Willimson to win a match here against India year,
(09:42):
that's that's that's good in itself. But in India I
thought it was.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Just well, I mean, did take nothing away from It's great,
But does it not just tell you about the sort
of the crapshoot nature of cricket, I mean on the day.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
No, I don't know. It's not over there.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You can't put it down to the toss alone.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well, they won toss and you won the toss and
chose to beat and you don't involved them out for
forty six.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Quick word, either of you guys seen any ratings for
the America's Cup. We rang them the other day and
they haven't supplied them yet, which always indicates to me
they're not keen to give them. Did anybody watch the
America's Cup here as an exercise or we don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I don't know, don't know. Look, if it was held here,
of course they would have been the roof, right And
if it was in the time zone being here, yes,
of course it would have rated through the roof again.
Like I mentioned last week, I looked at the YouTube
figures this morning, and I think the last race on Saturday,
oh yesterday rather garn at about three hundred thousand global
(10:43):
views on YouTube, which is not huge, right, but there's
people watching on other platforms as well, at the America's
Cup website, so let's take that into consideration. But I
don't think there was massive interest in it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Interesting. All right, mate, you go well and we'll catch
up next week. Andrew Cevi will go have elt every
Monday morning on The mic Asking Breakfast.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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Betrayal: Season 4
Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone. This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years. And make sure to check out Seasons 1-3 of Betrayal, along with Betrayal Weekly Season 1.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.