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October 19, 2025 11 mins

Jason Pine and Andrew Saville join Mike Hosking this morning to discuss the weekend's sports.

On the table today: The US Grand Prix is underway, and Liam Lawson is sitting in 11th. 

The LA Dodger's Japanese superstar continues to impress.

And the NPC final, who's taking home the trophy?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Laws has dropped a place already. I mean this is
early days, it doesn't really matter, but they've got away
cleanly as the main point, so they're in the third lap,
but they've got away cleanly. The strategy appears to be
one of them was that leclair was studying on the softs.
He was studying on the soft so he's obviously looking
to rock it out as quickly as he can. He's
currently second. It's a one stop. Normally, normally one stop
you start on your mediums, go to your hearts. But

(00:22):
Leclaire's trying the soft two. I'm assuming hard strategy, so
we'll see how that goes. Anyway, it is time to
welcome to the program. Mander settled and Jason Pine. Good
morning to both of you.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Mike morning, well v Stephans Leeds already about what one
point eight? Will it be a precision.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Probably, but the point will be The interesting thing is
do the math if this is going to be the
way of the rest of the season. Are there enough
races left because the gap between twenty five and eighteen
and other words first and second in terms of points,
are there enough races left in the season for it
to close each week? To the extent, assuming that McLaren
comes second and third. Of course enough races left in

(00:59):
the season to make it. By the time you come
down to the last race, maybe something quite exciting, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Isn't it? Doesn't it prove again a Maxi Stepan, he's
a genius.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Here's a genius generation speaking of.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
What speaking of pressure? Sorry, Mike, what about the pressure
on Liam Lawson? I heard it before.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
You're so right?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
How can he drive, you know, focused on this race
with everything swirling around in the background about.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
His seat next year?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
A little feud with Sonoda, by the looks of it,
Hadja is going to get the red Bull seat. There's
other names floating around. Shouldn't they just tell them that
they're going to be there next year or not?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I would have thought. So that's how red Bull played
the game. We don't know what Lawson knows, of course,
but publicly he doesn't know allegedly, But yeah, you're right,
I'd find that repressive. And I argued last week, not
last week, the week before last when they're in Singapore.
The reason he hit the wall several times, and he
doesn't hit the wall normally as he's overdriving the car
because he's under so much pressure and you're second guessing

(01:59):
yourself and you're doing things. George Russell saw a very
good interview with George Russell over the weekend and he
said it took him a while to become really comfortable
in the car to the point where he knew he
had a job, he knew he could relax, and it's
at that point you become your best self. And if
you're constantly looking over your shoulder going do I have
work next year? Then you that's when you drive into

(02:21):
the wall and make mistakes. And so I would handle
it differently if I was Helmet Marco or Christina Orna, whoever.
So you make a good point. Well, I wasn't going
to raise Andrew, but I will now because two people
this morning have raised it with me. One was the
Prime Minister and one was the boss who just came
in and they all had the Otarani story. Do you
know about the Attorne story?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes? On Saturday especially, Yeah, yeah, he pitched this is
the La Dodgers, the Japanese superstar. He pitched what six
or seven innings ten strikeouts, which is a fantastic feat
in itself, but also hit three home runs in that
one game, and the Dodgers booked a place with that

(03:02):
win into the World Series.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That was amazing the game.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean, Babe Ruth, what one hundred and fifty years ago,
one hundred years ago pitched and hit and he was
seen as the greatest. But Otani is next leve just
rewriting his own his own history. Did you realize he's
on one and a half a ten year, one and
a half billion dollar contract right back to paid he gets, Yeah,
he gets paid a couple of mill each year for

(03:28):
the next ten years while he plays, and then I
assume once he retires he gets about one hundred and
fifty million dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I don't know how they did it, because it's it's
to avoid the salary cap or the amount of money
they have to spend on players. But one you're taking
old thought a massive risk. I mean, who owns the team,
who's running the team in ten years time when you're
going out the other side, they have the.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Money Otani, You'd like to think the Dodgers have put
the money into a high earning interest account and he
gets even and he gets even more because in ten
years time, one hundred and fifty mili was still a
lot of money.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Of course, of course, what I was talking with.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
The correctly If I'm wrong, they don't actually have a
salary cap and base.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's no, they don't, but they when you're paying a
guy a billion dollars, it sort of stretches your funds
no matter who you are, as I think his point.
But what I was saying that the Prime Minister off here,
which I find interesting, is he doesn't speak a word
of English. And so how you live in America and
play an American sport where Americans are a lot of Americans,
not uniquely, of course, and yet still perform at that
level being kind of linguistically isolated must be an interesting time, mustn't.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
It signals, don't they? So?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, but you know what I mean, It's like when
you say, oh, mate, that was awesome. I mean, he
hasn't have a clue what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I don't think the Dodgers or show hey would struggle
to fund an interpreter.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
But you know the interpreter's story.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Though the interpreter gambled the initiative.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
He stole all the money. His interpreter stole all the
money is in jail or he went off to court.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's really called lost an interpretation just just speaking Japanese
and pitching and hitting it is.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
It's it's most pitchers don't even bat, do they. They
don't even go out to me.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
To batan pitchure is a remarkable thing, and to do
it at his level is an astonishing thing and well
worth looking up. Carla Science has just run into Antonelli,
so both were out. Lawson's currently eleventh, so he's one
off the point. So things looking moderately promising. Andrew Seville
with us along with Jason Pine. Did either of you
see the basketball yesterday? Yeah? I watched it. Well, are

(05:32):
we any good? I couldn't work it out. We were
training by a mile, but I couldn't work out whether
we're any good? What do you reckon? Jason?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I think we're okay. I think we're okay. We're not
not championship material. What do we two and six?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Now?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
They played well against Tasmania on Friday night at home.
Melbourne United are a good team there seven from seven,
so we shouldn't get too downcast. I think they're there
or thereabouts. Parker Jackson cart right is the star of
the show, they've got, you know, some good play. Like
I say, I don't think they will. I don't think
they'll challenge for the title. Hey, Mike, Mark sorens And

(06:05):
has just texted me and said that o'tanni does understand a.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Little bit of English.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Does the greatest greatest softballer clearly a big listener to
your show. He's just told me that O'TORNI understands a
little bit of English.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
And encouraging Andrew. The semi finals in the NPC were disappointing,
but I think even the Bay a Plenty guy said,
you know, it's like losing the final was hopeless. I
mean you want them to be better than that, don't
you mean Canterbury the player will win.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Both Hawks, Bay and Bay Peney respectively. Friday night Saturday Night,
wasn't it. They stuck with the Otago and Canterbury until halftime,
but then those two teams just blew them away, didn't they.
You've got the best defensive team Canterbury against the best
attacking team Otago in the final. You've got one hundred
and fifty years of history, You've got Canterbury perennial winners,

(06:52):
You've got Otago the last time that what was it
ninety eight?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
So it should be a cracker of a final.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm not too sure. Jason might be able to fill
me in. Why is it at three o'clock in the
afternoon on a Saturday Anonymous.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
It was four o'clock.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
It's right. Yeah, I don't know the answer. I'm trying
to think of this.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
There is something else, There will be something else, anything else.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
I don't think there's anything else on.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, I got lunch. Maybe it was because I'll be
at lunch.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Well, it must have taken into accounts.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, well I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
This.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Well I got to come home and you know, relieve
yourself after a jug of beer and settle yourself down.
You need time.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Coronation Street omnibuses on at eight o'clock Saturday night might
for you.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
What's this? The R three sixty thing got fascinating. I
thought when the league came out last week on the
ten year band. Who has the right to do that
to an individual? But you can't just go to somebody
and go If you go do that, I mean contractually,
I get it. You know you've got to see your
contract out. I understand that part. But once you're in
you can't just go round aged people.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
The agent.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
But it's the interesting part, and that excuse me that players,
I guess most of them won't want to come back
to the NRL anyway to be the back end of
their career. They'll say, well, okay, I wasn't coming back anyway.
But for the agents. An agent who advises a client
to go to a rebel competition in this case three sixty,
he is also then blacklisted.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
But what about his other clients.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
What he's supposed to do with it?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I think Peter, I mean Peter Valandi's bulshy guy. I
don't mind him.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Actually he is undershamedly NRL and absolutely nothing else. But yeah,
I'm not sure that if they tested it in court
or whatever, it would stand up.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Now for rugby union Mike to do to banned players
from test matches most of the most of the nations,
and now for Rugby to do this, there must be
some concern that it is actually going to happen.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, they take it, have to because it's Saudi money.
The Saudi has got so much money. It's not like
it's a will it won't it The Soundi's.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Wanted money would surely head to the court room and
kick out, especially the NRL threats, wouldn't they exactly?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I would have thought too. The A League Is that
any good? Jason? I mean, what all draws all? There's
just another season of draws?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, sake in your voice, I was, I was. I
joined this morning with a sense of doom. A couple
of draws for Auckland f C and the Phoenix to start.
Look Auckland f C a bit clunky in their first game.
Second season syndrome. Don't know, we'll find out, I guess though.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'm sorry. Second season syndrome. Is that a thing? Is it?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Apparently apparently people are talking about how last year nobody
knew about Auckland f C. It was all fresh and
new and exciting and they were excellent, weren't they. Look
they'll be good again. Melbourne victory a good team, was
a bit of a stalemate. Phoenix were good, they were
team mill down, came back to two. All so encouraging
signs there, But yeah, we'd like some wins. The draws
a little bit monotonous, as you know, Mike Andrew.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
I think that's a fair point, isn't it, Jason? FORFC
it was so exciting. Last year everything was brand and
you and shiny, then they missed out on the Grand Final.
The key question is is it going to be hard
for those guys to lift again to those similar heights.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I think if they'd made the Grand if they'd made
the Grand Final or won it, yes, But the fact
is they've that's been stinging them. That lost to Melbourne victory,
that's been stinging for five months. So it's largely the
same group of players as well, So I think that
will be the motivator that they got close last year,
didn't get there, so they'll put that right this year. Look,
I think if you think they're a better side apart

(10:30):
from the goal, I think they're a better side than
last year.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
So you had watching.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Them, you would know anyone texting in the last two
or three minutes, and anyone else speaks English as.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, Hey, hey, no b up in Japan, No Mike,
don't take the mickey. I'd be honored to receive a
text from Mark Sorens of him, he was a heck
of him.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
He was a legend. And you've just embarrassed yourself by
not having a decent contact book there, Andrew, I mean.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Oh, don't worry.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Mate, who hasn't make Sorenson's number.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
It's the one that you can hear me speak on
your show because my phone, that is the message alert,
is just pinging constantly up unto eight twenty two.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Nice to see you, guys, Andrew Seville, Jason Pine.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
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