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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have l to Andrew Sevil, both Wethers fellows. Good
morning to you, Morning morning, Andrew. Don't give me the
corporate flannel. But I happened to watch a little bit yesterday.
I was watching because I'm so well. I mean, I
don't give me there, don't give me the Chris Hopkins answers.
So the numbers on stream. So I'm correct in saying
(00:20):
to watch the cricket in this country, this is the
black Caps yesterday. To watch the cricket in this country,
you've got to stream it on TV and Z AM
I correct or am I completely.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's on our Duke channel as well on Free of You.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, do you have any numbers? Is anyone watching it
or not?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No, I haven't checked the numbers. I was thinking about
that last night. Maybe I should check the numbers before
I come on with Mike, but I haven't. But I'd
say they'd be very pretty strong.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So not not strong on the KPIs then, so so yeah,
I m just check that before I go on with Mike.
And here with Mike, I'm Mike. By the way.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, no, it was late. It was late last night.
I was singing about you before IDs it off. To sleep,
And I thought, I was.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
That is Chris Hipkins. Area is not reading things.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Much. It's the sky have Elton Chris Hapkins on them.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Now, what I'll do for you, what I'll do for
you in the next couple of days is take out
my corporate flannel w under the tap, wash my face
and get those numbers for you. However, you're not going
to be here next week.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
No, no, no, no, I'm not no, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's the secret of December. This is like starting to
be like Christmas music. When are they going to start
playing Christmas music and shops Win's Mike, can.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It take me? That's that's the thing. That's so what
I've decided to I've decided to align myself with the
Christmas music. So when the Christmas music stops, it starts,
I stop.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And when Parliament stops sitting.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You don't even get me started on you.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You take up. I was pulling. I was actually pulling
out the advent calendars for the kids, you said, and
I thought, December first, Mike, must be just about you
to go on holiday.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Very good sense, that's very good. So let's enjoy these
final few moments while we can. By the way, you're
not on the show next you, sap, we've secked you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But that's certainly using the corporate flannel.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Isn't it. That's exactly right? Now, what do we start
with our guy to tell me? So I was watching
this cricket. Just go back to the cricket. First of all,
did you notice christ which looks a bit parched? Do
you notice that from the aerial shots?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I didn't think that it looked a little bit dry.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Go to the poor hills you're getting around the port hills.
It just needed like a sprinkle.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, And considering that's the start of summer, I don't
know what it's going to be like there is the
summer if it's a dry summer. Look, the cricket was
heavily disappointing. And I've heard a lot of people talk
about selections and all that sort of stuff or the
bottom liners, And the thing here is if they took
their catches, they would have been right in that game.
They dropped eight catches. Eight catches. This is a team
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that used to be the leading fielding team in the
world cricket were there by no means that anymore. And
this wasn't a one off. They have been pretty poor
in the field now for probably the best part of
a year maybe and slightly longer. I don't know what's
happened in that regard, because what do.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You do about that. There's nothing you can do about that,
is there. That's not like you go on Monday. You go, right, guys,
let's do some practice, some catching practice, because I.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Mean they do teams practice anyway, right, these teams practice
catching all the time. Okay, outfield stoop catching in close
the problem and guy would know about this. Guy would
know about this because he's got two left hands anyway.
But in a cricket team, when someone drops one, yes,
everyone else thinks, oh god, I hope the bar doesn't
come back. Is that it is psychological, It's contagious. Yeah,
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that happens a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It's massively psychological, and says right they. I mean, I
don't know how many Black Cats trainings I've been to,
but every single training they would spend at least half
an hour, maybe forty five minutes on their catching.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And this is a funny because I would have I mean,
I know they do that. But what I'm what I'm
saying is you can't improve you can hit a ball
up in the air and I get under it as
many times as you like. Am either good at catching
or I'm not? Yeah, I mean, it's not going to change.
And it's not a skill you can improve, is it?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
No, it is is how.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Can you improve you? How can you improve a skill
of catching?
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You can you can improve your reactions and the slips
and that using a slip cradle or whatever they use
these days, you can improve. Yeah, isn't the all black
still practice passing and catching a rug can because.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
There's nothing else to do? I mean, but what I'm
saying is if I was first slip, I'd be a
coiled spring at all moments, ready to go.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And I think that's I mean, I think that's possibly
part of the test of test cricket, is that five
days you've got to be concentrating all the time. And
I don't know, maybe their concentration was slightly off.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Because that's a mental thing.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, these catches weren't overly difficult. Yes, some of them
were hit hard, but when you're a professional that's been
playing for X amount of years and you're on the
international stage, they weren't tough Grammars And that's the difficult
thing for me to process is that it just.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So you think, Mike that once you get good at catching.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And I think one of you either can or you can't.
It's like handye coordination. There's no amount of practice on
hand one commination.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Keep practicing.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Of course, you keep practicing, but it's not to materially improve.
It's not to go, look, hey, I know you're really
useless at catching, but let's do one hundred and see
if we can make you a black cap. Doesn't work
that way. You're either good at it or you're not.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But if you if you stopped practicing, to say, let's
say they didn't do any field in practice, as you're
semi suggesting, that'd be terrible in the field.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, they were terrible in the field, so they probably
need to practice more.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But would that'd be even worse. I mean, it's just like,
I don't know, it's like doing anything. If you don't
do it for a while, you feel a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I've never found that guy. That's my problem. I just
I just I think.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
You you reach a point of perfection, and.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I just wonder if you were down at third man,
whether he's looking at the porthills and thought, jeez, they're
a bit putch and the next thing you know, there's
a ballway something like that. Right, So here it is morning, Mike.
I'm with you, is lo you need to catch a
ball like riding a bike once you've mastered it. It's
what you do and that is true, That's what I'm saying.
So your reaction time is what you're looking to home.
But the reaction time is something that's on the day.
There's what you do on Tuesday and Wednesday. Reaction time
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wise is not applicable on a Friday or Saturday.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But you can improve your reaction time by practicing.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Can you read there are a specialless.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Look, there are specialist fielders in the slips. There are
specialist fielders out in the deep who have better arms
and are faster. Yes, there are specialist positions, but you
need to practice, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
On the reactions thing. Imagine let's take Liam Lawson for example.
If one if they didn't practice your reactions, they'd be
crashing all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, but that would be more c I can specifically,
so you sit in the simulator and you aim for
the apex of the corner and when you get on
and off the break and stuff like that. Timing. I
get that, But then all right, well you.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Don't do you think Roger Feeder are won all his
Grand Slams? And then you know, I don't want to
I'm not going to practice.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
No, no, no, But that's different. That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying that catching is such a natural, basic skill,
whereas putting a bit of spin on a ball and
putting it down the center line exactly when you want
to do it, at the speed you want to do it.
That's a whole different level of and of course you
need to practice that. It's like going back. I'm going
to practice serving. You know, you don't practice serving. What
you're doing is you're practicing a specific part of the serving.
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You're at the next level, whereas catching is just catching
a ball's up in the air and it falls into
your hands or not.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I agree to disagree.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Okay, Hey what about Tacco fall.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, I'm not sure if it's been the best move
so far. I watched the game on Friday night or
Thursday night? Was he was the first game in their
double header? Well he's massive, I'll.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Put it that way.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Prison he too?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Is he so massive?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
He's not effective a little bit, and I don't think
he's quite got the movements around the court that they
really need, and they haven't figured out how to play
with them and use them to their advantage.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
The most this is from me just watching one of their.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Games this weekend, because they lost both of.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, and it wasn't I mean Thursday or Friday night
whatever game it was. That first one against Ellawara was dreadful.
They were dreadful and and the interesting thing about this
is that if you read in between the lines from
hearing from their coach, it doesn't sound like he had
he wanted exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
What was that about? Why as a coach, even if
you even if you know you had some issues behind
the scenes, why would you go on national television and
sort of say, yeah, we got this guy. I didn't
really want him. I don't know what I'm going to
do with them, but we'll give it a crack. I mean,
what the hell's the point of that?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He just hacked off.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was not professional, Andrew, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Look, I think what he wasn't using the corporate flannel. Clearly,
it just might take time for fod to get into
those into the into the into the regime and the tactics.
Look under the under the basket. He can block, he
can rebound because he's so much taller than everyone else.
So it will probably work in the end. It'll be
(09:06):
intriguing to see how it develops in the coming weeks,
but they can't afford to lose too many more games.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Tell you what. The highlight of the weekend for me
was at Auckland FC. They got a half decent crowd
in the rain and it was a shocking day. And
they're unbeaten. They're so far ahead on the rest of
the table that's embarrassing. They haven't had a single goal
scored against them. They are the Hellburg winners. I've made
up my mind. I know we did this and I've
asked other people, but if they going.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
With there's a different Helburg winner, you can't hand them out,
will Nelly? Look, look, fantastic performance and what they're doing, Mike,
is they're playing entertaining football. They're actually quite a joy
to what I agree. And then you think next week,
next week, they were already they solved this return local
derby game out.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We looked up for tickets. You know what, they're going
for four hundred and forty.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I'm not I've never been a
massive football fan, but that is the thing I'm looking
for to the most this weekend is the phoenix again.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
If you build it, they will come. And that's the point,
isn't it. You know, you come on. So here we
are and we're good, and we score and we draw
a crowd, and we're gonna win the championship and we're
gonna win the hell big award. Men.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I'll start a team from scratch twelve months ago, mate?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Is that unheard of?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Would often often protein like the Warriors had three or
four years and made it to to surgeon to life.
But this this club has done it very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Where pardon the Warriors? What year did they surge into life?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Ninety ninety five? But they got the license about two
or three years before that, didn't they?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I don't know. I'm still waiting for them a surgeon
to life. I mean, the finals, all right.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
But what's what's on the holiday plans?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Well?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't know, to be honest, And it's quite.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
An a suggestion. Here's a suggestion.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
He's got so long, he's got so long.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
He doesn't.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Actually, nobody think.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm navigating the world. You're lou got so I'm going
to around the world.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You hit the wine cellar in the first week, so
that's a right hot.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
No, it's a funny story. Actually, I don't introduce you.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Reread, reread, guys, email about our horse racing.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, aren't we waiting for the sale?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
The page you go Andrew the eighteen page home that
he sent out to us about what sort of racehorse
for going to get whether it's got four leggs, two
eyes or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And you do too much time, as Andrew, I heard
back from Mike, but I didn't hear back from you.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Andrew.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
He doesn't know how to use email. Hey, listen, we've
got to wrap it up. Guys. Listen, very merry Christmas
to both of you, and I think at least one
of you is back next year when we come back,
so so so go well, happy holidays, Merry Christmas and
all that. Andrew sevil guy.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
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